North Carolina Pastor: Beat the gaaay out of your children!

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Teenaged

psychological/emotional genderZeviander

Where the heck do you get these words from? I can't google for it.

Where the heck do you get these words from? I can't google for it.alexside1

People like that give conservatives a bad name....

[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"] Disagree all you want... it doesn't stop the facts from being there. It is people like you, and your binary view of humanity, that causes people who cannot fit into these established paradigms so much emotional stress and suffering.toast_burner

People like that give conservatives a bad name....

Wolf-Man2006

Most conservatives give conservatives a bad name.

[spoiler] lolconservatism [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

People like that give conservatives a bad name....

MobilechicaneX

Most conservatives give conservatives a bad name.

[spoiler] lolconservatism [/spoiler]

I'd like to see some studies about how one "beats the gay out of somebody.

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Teenaged

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Outside of reproductive capabilites there isn't a difference.. These roles you speak of are manufactured.. Especially with the widely varying aspects of physical attributes of people.. mindstorm

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

Do you need a haymaker? A scissor kick? Punch to the groin? How does one achieve the beating out of gayness? Body blows or do you work the head?

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Outside of reproductive capabilites there isn't a difference.. These roles you speak of are manufactured.. Especially with the widely varying aspects of physical attributes of people.. tenaka2

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I would very much argue that there are emotional and relational differences as well. I will note, however, one of the reasons I believe gender roles to be important is because of certain, as you put it, manufactured notions that are brought about because of religion. As such, I would not expect the non-religious to participate in such ideals. In other words, I do not expect a non-Christian to adhere to Christian ideals. This not saying an unbeliever cannot be moral but it does mean the unbeliever's motivations are different.mindstorm

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

THis would more then likely apply to you as you do seem very devout.

However most people that claim to be religious only do good deeds in the hopes of getting a better seat in heaven.

A good deed done by someone not expecting reward is a lot more noble then a good deed done out of selfisness.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

tenaka2

THis would more then likely apply to you as you do seem very devout.

However most people that claim to be religious only do good deeds in the hopes of getting a better seat in heaven.

A good deed done by someone not expecting reward is a lot more noble then a good deed done out of selfisness.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Possibly - but this also depends heavily upon the religious person being spoken of. I know many religious people who are quite hateful and self-righteous. As such, any good they do is for their own glorification. However, I know some Christians who will sacrifice every comfort and pleasure for the sake of others because of the love in their heart for God and people.sonicare

THis would more then likely apply to you as you do seem very devout.

However most people that claim to be religious only do good deeds in the hopes of getting a better seat in heaven.

A good deed done by someone not expecting reward is a lot more noble then a good deed done out of selfisness.

Is it though?

Its possible to win a race by either training really hard or killing the opposition. The result would be the same.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I would very much argue that there are emotional and relational differences as well. I will note, however, one of the reasons I believe gender roles to be important is because of certain, as you put it, manufactured notions that are brought about because of religion. As such, I would not expect the non-religious to participate in such ideals. In other words, I do not expect a non-Christian to adhere to Christian ideals. This not saying an unbeliever cannot be moral but it does mean the unbeliever's motivations are different.mindstorm

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I would argue that unbeliever's motivations are usually more pure then religious peoples.

toast_burner

In reality I am proud of how just how inexpressibly humble I am. (joke)

I will admit, however, that I have had problems with self-righteousness in the past. One can say that I am a recovering religious person who seeks after the grace of Christ. :P

There are so many things wrong with what he has said that I am really not sure how to be go about being offended by it. I mean, first of all, he acts as if gender norms are a constant which never have and never will change. Then there's the fact that he's advocating the abuse of children. He's also a bigoted sh*t head for suggesting that flamboyant behaviors are inherently part of homosexual nature and that they are at all a bad thing. Overall, it's probably best to just laugh at him for being so stupid and then move on.

By the way, I'm 98% convinced that Sean Harris is a closeted homosexual himself. Can't someone set him up with a hidden camera trick?
I'd love to see that guys life get ruined, he deserves it. I have zero tolerance for these kind of 'people'.

TheFlush

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

People like that give conservatives a bad name....

sSubZerOo

Most conservatives give conservatives a bad name.

[spoiler] lolconservatism [/spoiler]

To be honest not every conservative out there is that demented..

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Teenaged

The glorious theocracy that is teh USA.

What ever happened to the land of the free?

The glorious theocracy that is teh USA.

What ever happened to the land of the free?

The glorious theocracy that is teh USA.

What ever happened to the land of the free?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The glorious theocracy that is teh USA.

What ever happened to the land of the free?

xscrapzx

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] It all has to do with money my man. The Gay people that want to get married want the benefits of it, not the true meaning of being married. Its all about money. xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The glorious theocracy that is teh USA.

What ever happened to the land of the free?

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] It all has to do with money my man. The Gay people that want to get married want the benefits of it, not the true meaning of being married. Its all about money. xscrapzx

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

So love and creating a family has nothing to do with it. That's nice to know.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] lol-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] It all has to do with money my man. The Gay people that want to get married want the benefits of it, not the true meaning of being married. Its all about money. xscrapzx

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

Men earn more than women so two men together and it's all $$$$

Also no kids usually and gays are ballin' with the cash.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

So love and creating a family has nothing to do with it. That's nice to know.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] It is. If you think they would not get any benefit from getting married there would be no incentive of trying to fight the rights to do so. Thats why the states don't want to recognize it. It's very simple the root of all evil, MONIES!xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Is that why heterosexual couples get married too?

-Misanthropic-

Men earn more than women so two men together and it's all $$$$

Also no kids usually and gays are ballin' with the cash.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Most likely. Combinding two families together creates a bigger pot. I would say that it is more along the lines of tradition more than anything though.xscrapzx

So love and creating a family has nothing to do with it. That's nice to know.

Maybe I should be gay then. -Sun_Tzu-

Is your family's bank account not swollen enough?

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I reject this marxist interpretation. -Sun_Tzu-

So love and creating a family has nothing to do with it. That's nice to know.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] I don't think there is anything marxist about it at all. Its very simple, a gay couple lives with eachother, they both pay bills and taxes and want their cut as well. I don't think its that far fetched. They want to be recognized by the state as well. xscrapzx

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"] Most likely. Combinding two families together creates a bigger pot. I would say that it is more along the lines of tradition more than anything though.xscrapzx

So love and creating a family has nothing to do with it. That's nice to know.

Considering the divorce rate, and how badly some hetersexual couple treat their kids, I support any couple who wishes to start a loving home, either through surrogacy, insemination or adoption (for gay/lesbian couples couples). I know that some couples enter into marriage for the money, but it's so much easier and acceptable to be financially independent these days (especially for women), that marriage isn't THAT much better, money wise.

You do come across as rather self righteous. You're not too over the top, but you still seem to act like you know what god wants.toast_burner

[QUOTE="Maniacc1"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] With all do respect, you can't create a natural family with a gay couple. At least between the two of them and by no means am I saying that gay marriage is wrong or am I against it because at the end of the day whatever which way is decided. I'm still going to have to wake up in the morning and go to work to pay my bills. I could care less to be honest, just stating that some want the benefits of marriage. If you think none of them don't they you are being very naive.xscrapzx

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Your explanation couldn't be anymore Marxist. It's textbook historical materialism. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]You do come across as rather self righteous. You're not too over the top, but you still seem to act like you know what god wants.Zeviander

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Maniacc1"] Benefits of marriage? It seems more of a financial gamble to enter into one these days. With a divorce rate lingering in the high 50's and the legal/financial headaches involved, I don't think a majority of people entering into marriage are doing so for financial benefits. Maniacc1

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"] So even if it is, how does that dispute the fact that there are some gay couples out there that are happy just being couples, would plan on getting married if it was legal or recognized by the state, for the benenfits that are provided from it?xscrapzx

It's not like you mistakenly left out a qualifier in your earlier posts. What you were saying couldn't have been more clear.