Paedophile to be beheaded and crucified

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#401 Never3ndingLife
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wow thats horrible
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#402 Engrish_Major
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As they say...if it walks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...it's a duck. LJS9502_basic
I'd love for that to be used as testimony in a US court! :lol:
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#403 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="drufeous"]

A full blown confession is all the evidence needed. Guilty.

Engrish_Major

And all the evidence you need was provided by a "Saudi web forum"?

The last link I gave you said this:

"Saudi reports said that police used one of the survivors, a seven-year-old boy believed to be of Yemeni origin, to scour the area where he was molested, looking for the suspect's vehicle. Al-Ramaly allegedly confessed to the crime and was sentenced to death by a court in Hail, but appealed to a higher court in the capital, Riyadh"

I do not see any mention of the web forum there. They do mention the forum on a later paragraph

"Amnesty said there were reports that al-Ramaly may have been suffering from a psychological disorder. One Saudi web forum reported that police had been surprised when he laughed as he confessed to the rapes and murder."

So the web forum are the ones alleging that he "Laughed" while he confessed, not that he confessed.

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#404 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] As they say...if it walks like a duck...and quacks like a duck...it's a duck. Engrish_Major
I'd love for that to be used as testimony in a US court! :lol:

His confession would result in a conviction in the US as well. No question.
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#405 Engrish_Major
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His confession would result in a conviction in the US as well. No question.LJS9502_basic
The US does not torture people to get confessions. In addition, the death penalty is not carried out from guilty pleas.
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#406 krazykillaz
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Personally, I find that disgusting.
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#407 legend26
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thats epic

i garentie you if we did that just once in the USA, pedophile crimes and child rape/muder would drop

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#408 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="drufeous"]

A full blown confession is all the evidence needed. Guilty.

And all the evidence you need was provided by a "Saudi web forum"?

The last link I gave you said this:

"Saudi reports said that police used one of the survivors, a seven-year-old boy believed to be of Yemeni origin, to scour the area where he was molested, looking for the suspect's vehicle. Al-Ramaly allegedly confessed to the crime and was sentenced to death by a court in Hail, but appealed to a higher court in the capital, Riyadh"

I do not see any mention of the web forum there. They do mention the forum on a later paragraph

"Amnesty said there were reports that al-Ramaly may have been suffering from a psychological disorder. One Saudi web forum reported that police had been surprised when he laughed as he confessed to the rapes and murder."

So the web forum are the ones alleging that he "Laughed" while he confessed, not that he confessed.

Yes, "allegedly". According to who? The police? The suspect? The journalist's sister's boyfriend?
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#409 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]His confession would result in a conviction in the US as well. No question.Engrish_Major
The US does not torture people to get confessions. In addition, the death penalty is not carried out from guilty pleas.

There have been ZERO reports he was tortured for a confession dude.
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#410 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="legend26"]

thats epic

i garentie you if we did that just once in the USA, pedophile crimes and child rape/muder would drop

Yeah, our current death row system doesn't deter crime. If only we beheaded them instead, that would surely do the trick!
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#411 Engrish_Major
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There have been ZERO reports he was tortured for a confession dude.LJS9502_basic
And ZERO reports citing reputable sources that he actually confessed.
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#412 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There have been ZERO reports he was tortured for a confession dude.Engrish_Major
And ZERO reports citing reputable sources that he actually confessed.

In your opinion....
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#413 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]And all the evidence you need was provided by a "Saudi web forum"?Engrish_Major

The last link I gave you said this:

"Saudi reports said that police used one of the survivors, a seven-year-old boy believed to be of Yemeni origin, to scour the area where he was molested, looking for the suspect's vehicle. Al-Ramaly allegedly confessed to the crime and was sentenced to death by a court in Hail, but appealed to a higher court in the capital, Riyadh"

I do not see any mention of the web forum there. They do mention the forum on a later paragraph

"Amnesty said there were reports that al-Ramaly may have been suffering from a psychological disorder. One Saudi web forum reported that police had been surprised when he laughed as he confessed to the rapes and murder."

So the web forum are the ones alleging that he "Laughed" while he confessed, not that he confessed.

Yes, "allegedly". According to who? The police? The suspect? The journalist's sister's boyfriend?

Did you want a written note of him confessing his crimes?
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#414 Engrish_Major
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In your opinion....LJS9502_basic
Show me a report citing a reputable source of his confession. One that's not "allegedly" (without the source, no less) or a "Saudi web forum".
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#415 leviathan91
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Disgusting. The man deserves to be executed but not like this. Then again, this is Saudi Arabia so dignitiy and the law doesn't mesh.

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#416 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Did you want a written note of him confessing his crimes?

I don't think he'd accept it even if the guy confessed to him actually...
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#417 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There have been ZERO reports he was tortured for a confession dude.Engrish_Major
And ZERO reports citing reputable sources that he actually confessed.

It's up to you if you don't want to believe in the evidence given by the articles.
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#418 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"]

thats epic

i garentie you if we did that just once in the USA, pedophile crimes and child rape/muder would drop

Engrish_Major

Yeah, our current death row system doesn't deter crime. If only we beheaded them instead, that would surely do the trick!

honastly...i think so

yes i know the whole beheading and crucificton is extreme but seriously if some sickchild rapist/murderer heard this, he would think twice

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#419 Engrish_Major
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Did you want a written note of him confessing his crimes?cyberdarkkid
The article doesn't even state where the "alleged" confession report is from.
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#420 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]Did you want a written note of him confessing his crimes?Engrish_Major
The article doesn't even state where the "alleged" confession report is from.

Even if it did I think you would come up with another excuse.
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#421 Engrish_Major
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It's up to you if you don't want to believe in the evidence given by the articles.cyberdarkkid
There's no evidence there. It's all heresay and conjecture.
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#422 duxup
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]There have been ZERO reports he was tortured for a confession dude.cyberdarkkid
And ZERO reports citing reputable sources that he actually confessed.

It's up to you if you don't want to believe in the evidence given by the articles.

Considering Saudi Arabia's track record on confessions and torture I think any confession is questionable. I hope they got the right dude.
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#423 Engrish_Major
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Even if it did I think you would come up with another excuse.cyberdarkkid
Try me.
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#424 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Did you want a written note of him confessing his crimes?LJS9502_basic
I don't think he'd accept it even if the guy confessed to him actually...

...uhhh, if I saw it firsthand, that's completely different than heresay. And I think I'd know if I tortured someone.
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#425 swizz-the-gamer
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Horrible. Can't say I care that much though.

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#426 Solid_Snake325
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I agree that he should be executed, but could they make the method a bit less gruesome?
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#427 yabbicoke
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Progress!

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#428 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="flordeceres"]

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

I never called the punishment humane.

Quite honestly, just as long as the scum is killed I really don't care or feel any faint feelings of sympathy towards such an individual.

I just want him dead so he can't do it again.

LostProphetFLCL

Disregard the 'humane' bit, then.

So you'd rather slaughter a man that has absolutely no control over his actions to ensure this won't happen again over trying to help him ?

I love your assumption that the man has no control.

This isn't a case of some guy having a random schizophrenic breakdown. This is someone who went out and hunted down children and then proceeded to laugh about it afterwards.

Slaughter him like hes cattle I say. He isn't worth any more than that. They are just taking an extra step of making a public show out of it to try and show what happens when you screw up like that which while I don't neccessarily encourage I won't fight against it either.

Out of pure curiosity, would you be for executing/imprisoning people diagnosed with pedophilia even if they haven't broken any law? Just to make sure it doesn't happen?

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Progress!

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#430 awesomeray
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[QUOTE="yabbicoke"]

Progress!

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*raises glass* he totally deserved it
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#431 RushMetallica
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I can't believe how savage the responders to this thread have been. Are you seriously advocating dark-ages practices? Sure it is atrocious what the culprit did, but we should be more civilized than this. He deserves to be in jail for life, but we should not resort to such idiotic actions.
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#432 domatron23
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Wow man. This thread is basically like the Gamespot version of Lord of the Flies. I'm sorry but I can't advocate this kind of execution.
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#433 RushMetallica
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[QUOTE="domatron23"]Wow man. This thread is basically like the Gamespot version of Lord of the Flies. I'm sorry but I can't advocate this kind of execution.

Exactly what I was thinking.
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#434 samuraiguns
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I don't agree with sentencing.

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#435 Trinners
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Looks like their judicial system is just as bad as the criminals.

What's next? Public stonings? Oh wait...

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#436 cyborg100000
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Surely life in prison would be a lot worse than death.

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#437 shoot-first
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It is well deserved.

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#438 jak275
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Surely life in prison would be a lot worse than death.

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It probably would be but then they couldn't use him as an example could they?
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#439 nimatoad2000
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one of them was 3 and he left it to die in the desert? id PAY to watch this happen to him. i feel absolutely no symphathy
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#440 awesomeray
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I can't believe how savage the responders to this thread have been. Are you seriously advocating dark-ages practices? Sure it is atrocious what the culprit did, but we should be more civilized than this. He deserves to be in jail for life, but we should not resort to such idiotic actions.RushMetallica
why not?
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#441 kitchenwindow
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I have no objections!

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Humanity! We're getting better!
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#443 Paladin_King
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I'm not sure why I lol'd at the article's assuring us that his beheading will be by a "professional swordsman," but I did.
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#444 Tezcatlipoca666
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How absurd... wouldn't it be much easier to put him before a firing squad?

Elaborate executions (this includes lethal injection, the electric chair) seem completely unnecessary to me.

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#445 Trinners
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How absurd... wouldn't it be much easier to put him before a firing squad?

Elaborate executions (this includes lethal injection, the electric chair) seem completely unnecessary to me.

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#446 Lethalhazard
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Mmmm......... I don't mind the beheading -- the crucifixion part is a bit out of line.
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#447 789shadow
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Can't exactly say he doesn't deserve it.

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#448 deactivated-59d151f079814
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... Yeah wtg lets support the regime that will arrest women who try to drive.. Or who have men in their houses that are not of their relations.
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#449 elblanquito_81
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... Yeah wtg lets support the regime that will arrest women who try to drive.. Or who have men in their houses that are not of their relations.sSubZerOo
That second one will get them stoned, not arrested. I see what you're trying to say though. I don't support that regime, I do think they are an extremely oppressive country, but I really feel no sympathy for this man. Considering what he did, how he left a child to die in the desert like an animal after raping him, I don't find anything wrong with the sentence. It's shocking, yes, but nothing I will shed a tear over.

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#450 LJS9502_basic
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... Yeah wtg lets support the regime that will arrest women who try to drive.. Or who have men in their houses that are not of their relations.sSubZerOo
I don't think it's support...but merely no sympathy for the dude.