Paedophile to be beheaded and crucified

[QUOTE="_Ben99_"]We don't have a high crime rate in Saudi compared to the western world's thanks to hwat you called "barbaric" punishments.Engrish_Major

Couldn't they just make him read and post in System wars for 10 years? That would be enough!

8Tango

Ok in light of this suggestion by this poster I hereby declare that beheading and crucifixion is perfectly fine!

:P

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="flordeceres"]

I am not questioning the gravity of his actions nor that he shouldn't receive severe punishment, which he should, but, tell me, what would his conviction solve ? Personal revenge ? This isn't justification for death penalty.

flordeceres

You take him out of existence so he has 0% chance to ever repeat his actions, simple as that.

Even in prison people still commit murder on a regular basis. While I am not a fan of prisoners in any right, they shouldn't neccessarily be getting murdered by other inmates for BS gang crap.

Also, when it comes to capturing and holding leaders of violent groups, if you don't kill them they usually find a way to keep in touch with their followers and give orders while in prison, at least here in the US.

I actually saw an interesting program a little while back on prisons and how gangs operate in the prisons. They come up with so many interesting ways of coding messages and such in their letters it is ridiculous.

You justify their reasoning by claiming that if he died it wouldn't ever happen ? Rather narrow-minded. Every human being deserves a chance to get better, as does this man. He can't tell right from wrong, black from white. He has a severe mental illness and deserves the chance to be set straight.

Life in the solitary and psychiatric help would be a better fit...

My view is that to insure the safety of others you kill this man who is very liable to commit the crime again if he ever has the oppurtunity. If you kill a person who has commited murder you know 100% sure that they will never murder again. Keep them alive, even in prison, and theres still a decent chance they will kill again be it another prisoner, gaurds, or a civilian.

Life in solitary would only make things worse. People need regular human contact to keep any remnant of sanity they have.

I am sorry but life is not a fairytale. There is no such thing as a reformed and/or remorseful serial killer and there is no such thing as a reformed pedophile. His laughing while confessing is a clear sign of his lack of a conscience AKA Anti-Social Personality Disorder.

He will never be able to see the wrong in what he has done.

[QUOTE="8Tango"]

Couldn't they just make him read and post in System wars for 10 years? That would be enough!

Ok in light of this suggestion by this poster I hereby declare that beheading and crucifixion is perfectly fine!

:P

Couldn't they just make him read and post in System wars for 10 years? That would be enough!

8Tango

LOL and force him to be a sheep :o

My view is that to insure the safety of others you kill this man who is very liable to commit the crime again if he ever has the oppurtunity.LostProphetFLCL

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

Looks like people here misunderstand Sharia.

The system is based on forgiveness (for the most part). Tawbah (remorse for a certain action) is strongly encouraged in Islam. But if you feel that you deserve the punishment, then accept it. Let me give you an example; if someone cheats on his/her partner, the Qisas (physical punishment) is flogging. But if a reconciliation is made with the husband and wife and the perpetrator makes tawbah, then he/she is dismissed. I have proved this because if you read the Quran, you will see that tawbah is essential to a Muslim's way of life.

But in some cases, this simply cannot apply. If someone has done a despicable crime, then they must accept their punishment regardless (And no, crucifiction is completely unecessary). These should be rare, and only if the person has commited a greivous crime, like genocide and raping inoccent people.

Saudi Arabia is a corrupt country, enough said.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]My view is that to insure the safety of others you kill this man who is very liable to commit the crime again if he ever has the oppurtunity.John_A_Zoidberg

If its not bloody, it aint worth it!

:P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. I've read many a thread here that is one sided and biased. If you haven't heard what the government provided as evidence than you can't really assume he's innocent.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Vfanek"] Blasted corruption, how dare it kill our pedophiles?Vfanek

PETA frowns at this comparison.

LostProphetFLCL

So you reckon beheading and crucifixion are more humane and valid than life in prison ?

[QUOTE="NinjaDuckling"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

It's the same as any sexual preference, people used to call homosexuality a mental disorder when it was (more) shunned upon by society, pedophilia is still highly looked down upon.

Yandere

And it always should be. Pardon me for asking, but by comparing paedophilia to homosexuality, are you justifying it?

Yes, I don't find ANY sexual preference "wrong", anyways I'm a lolicon.

Huh...I have to admit it takes alot of courage to say that even on an internet board.

It's always nice to see humanity showing how we have progressed over the millennium...>_>Darth-Caedus

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="NinjaDuckling"]

And it always should be. Pardon me for asking, but by comparing paedophilia to homosexuality, are you justifying it?

Pixel-Pirate

Yes, I don't find ANY sexual preference "wrong", anyways I'm a lolicon.

Huh...I have to admit it takes alot of courage to say that even on an internet board.

I'll say my sexual preferences to anyone anywhere other than the police.

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]It's always nice to see humanity showing how we have progressed over the millennium...>_>Teenaged

That is still an assumption. And since you stated the child was slain...then the death sentence takes the murder into account as well.

LJS9502_basic

Apparently by alot of peoples standards in this thread, if I disliked someone all I'd need to say to justify their executiuon is "HE KILLED/MOLESTED A CHILD!". Don't need no hard evidence.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Crucifying is a humane punishment? :|Yandere

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Vfanek"] It's inhumane? This fella brought it upon himself, he's not worth more than a rat.Vfanek

But in all fairness it is a waste of wood if they do it in that order.

[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Crucifying is a humane punishment? :|ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Darth-Caedus"]It's always nice to see humanity showing how we have progressed over the millennium...>_>cyberdarkkid

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

That is still an assumption. And since you stated the child was slain...then the death sentence takes the murder into account as well.

Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Vfanek"] It's inhumane? This fella brought it upon himself, he's not worth more than a rat.elblanquito_81

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Vfanek"] It's inhumane? This fella brought it upon himself, he's not worth more than a rat.elblanquito_81

Yes, it is quite insane. What will it accomplish ?

As much as I want to see this man pay for what he has done, I do not see how insane barbaric punishment teaches one that insane barbaric acts are unacceptable and wrong.

He was caught attempting to get another child. I don't think it was ONLY a suspicion and I don't see how the murder didn't play a part in his sentence either. Did you read it? "The rapist - who was not named - was arrested several weeks ago as he tried to seize another boy after offering him a ride home from school."LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Beheading I can understand but crucifying is just insane.flordeceres

Yes, it is quite insane. What will it accomplish ?

Very 21 century-like, right?

>___>

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He was caught attempting to get another child. I don't think it was ONLY a suspicion and I don't see how the murder didn't play a part in his sentence either. Did you read it? "The rapist - who was not named - was arrested several weeks ago as he tried to seize another boy after offering him a ride home from school."Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Vfanek"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"] Beheading I can understand but crucifying is just insane.Yandere

But in all fairness it is a waste of wood if they do it in that order.

Here that is called abduction.....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He was caught attempting to get another child. I don't think it was ONLY a suspicion and I don't see how the murder didn't play a part in his sentence either. Did you read it? "The rapist - who was not named - was arrested several weeks ago as he tried to seize another boy after offering him a ride home from school."Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

That is still an assumption. And since you stated the child was slain...then the death sentence takes the murder into account as well.

Engrish_Major

Yea not this article but others do in fact show that he actually confessed his crimes, the child's testimony helped to identify the suspect the article never said it served as evidence although it serves as proof that he tried to abduct another child,

"One Saudi Web forum said police were surprised when he laughed as he confessed to the rapes and murder"

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2009/11/04/Saudi-man-faces-beheading-and-crucifixion/UPI-57291257353172/

And I'm surprised you don't remember this because you even quoted me when I posted this link a few pages back.

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Beheading I can understand but crucifying is just insane.ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="_Ben99_"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]When someone commits a barbaric and heinous act, they need to be shown that they have no place in a civilized society. By acting barbaric themselves (and I'm sorry... beheading someone and hanging their body in a public square is barbaric), the society in question, is not showing that it is capable of acting in a civilized manner. How are you to remove non-civilized elements from a society when the society is stuck in the middle ages itself?John_A_Zoidberg

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here that is called abduction.....Engrish_Major

"One Saudi Web forum said police were surprised when he laughed as he confessed to the rapes and murder"

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/International/2009/11/04/Saudi-man-faces-beheading-and-crucifixion/UPI-57291257353172/

And I'm surprised you don't remember this because you even quoted me when I posted this link a few pages back.

Again...he lives there he knows the penalties. But he wasn't convicted of abduction... the sentence is for the rape and murder.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="flordeceres"]

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Well, the guy is already going to be dead by the time they hang him up on a cross, so it's really not that insane. He won't feel a thing.

Teenaged

Yes, it is quite insane. What will it accomplish ?

Very 21 century-like, right?

>___>

Which to me just proves humanity as a whole isn't any better than this ill man.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Again...he lives there he knows the penalties. But he wasn't convicted of abduction... the sentence is for the rape and murder.

Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Beheading I can understand but crucifying is just insane.flordeceres

Yes, it is quite insane. What will it accomplish ?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="flordeceres"]

Yes, it is quite insane. What will it accomplish ?

Pixel-Pirate

Very 21 century-like, right?

>___>

Which to me just proves humanity as a whole isn't any better than this ill man.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Well, the guy is already going to be dead by the time they hang him up on a cross, so it's really not that insane. He won't feel a thing.

John_A_Zoidberg

PFFFFFFFFFFFFF hilarious :lol:

Barbarians behead a Barbarian and then crucify him...and so the cycle of life continues....

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] Beheading I can understand but crucifying is just insane.ghoklebutter

You assume that is the only evidence. Plus...he confessed.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]Well, the guy is already going to be dead by the time they hang him up on a cross, so it's really not that insane. He won't feel a thing.

John_A_Zoidberg

you're saying all Saudis are religious, talk about tunnel vision

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Again...he lives there he knows the penalties. But he wasn't convicted of abduction... the sentence is for the rape and murder.

Engrish_Major