Should rich people give their money to poor people ?

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.-Karayan-

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

rich people should help out the poor, it aint like they got anything else better to do with their money, well besides wasting it 2ndWonder

[QUOTE="teh_forbidden"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] In terms of raw reasoning, I think it's mostly genetic no matter what, and that's just personal experience. A professor of mathematics I know is an absolute genius. She must have an IQ of at least 170. Her brother is even smarter she says, and her father was also extremely intelligent. It seems to me you can't just learn that kind of genius.quiglythegreat

In our current Capitalist society no they shouldn't HAVE to. But they shouldn't be paid so much money in the first place so that there is more money to go to the minimum wage workers who are just barely getting by. sutherland19

thats good, take away from those who have achieved so the minimum wage could possibly go up by a few cents

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.NrGcHaRgE021

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

Trade schools are pefectly fine for someone who doesn't like normal schooling. 

Go ask an electrician, graphics designer, or mechanic if they mind their high paying job for such a low schooling cost.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="teh_forbidden"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] In terms of raw reasoning, I think it's mostly genetic no matter what, and that's just personal experience. A professor of mathematics I know is an absolute genius. She must have an IQ of at least 170. Her brother is even smarter she says, and her father was also extremely intelligent. It seems to me you can't just learn that kind of genius.teh_forbidden

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.Donkey_Puncher

Trade schools are pefectly fine for someone who doesn't like normal schooling.

Go ask an electrician, graphics designer, or mechanic if they mind their high paying job for such a low schooling cost.

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

That's an excellent point, however in order to really succeed as those guys, you basically need to become an entrepreneur. Yes, those are nice paying jobs on their own, but in order to compete with the salary of say a doctor, starting your own business is the only way to do it, which requires a lot of capital.quiglythegreat

Wrong, it's called unions. 

I know plenty of friends and family members who are electricians and blue collar workers.  They make well over 25 an hour and work for companies.

You the only one where starting a business would be the best idea would be graphics design.  Everyother trade is completely possible through hiring of companies

[QUOTE="teh_forbidden"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="teh_forbidden"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] In terms of raw reasoning, I think it's mostly genetic no matter what, and that's just personal experience. A professor of mathematics I know is an absolute genius. She must have an IQ of at least 170. Her brother is even smarter she says, and her father was also extremely intelligent. It seems to me you can't just learn that kind of genius.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.NrGcHaRgE021

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] That's an excellent point, however in order to really succeed as those guys, you basically need to become an entrepreneur. Yes, those are nice paying jobs on their own, but in order to compete with the salary of say a doctor, starting your own business is the only way to do it, which requires a lot of capital.Donkey_Puncher

Wrong, it's called unions.

I know plenty of friends and family members who are electricians and blue collar workers. They make well over 25 an hour and work for companies.

You the only one where starting a business would be the best idea would be graphics design. Everyother trade is completely possible through hiring of companies

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] That's an excellent point, however in order to really succeed as those guys, you basically need to become an entrepreneur. Yes, those are nice paying jobs on their own, but in order to compete with the salary of say a doctor, starting your own business is the only way to do it, which requires a lot of capital.quiglythegreat

Wrong, it's called unions.

I know plenty of friends and family members who are electricians and blue collar workers. They make well over 25 an hour and work for companies.

You the only one where starting a business would be the best idea would be graphics design. Everyother trade is completely possible through hiring of companies

With full benefits, and a spouse on top of that?  Yes it is. 

People don't need to live in Two story houses and own new cars to live a satisfying life.  25 is more than enough to survive on your own.  You also seem to forget that a family will most likely have two incomes as well. 

Two people bringing in 25 an hour each can EASILY support a family.  EASILY.  I can't imagine how you couldn't.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] That's an excellent point, however in order to really succeed as those guys, you basically need to become an entrepreneur. Yes, those are nice paying jobs on their own, but in order to compete with the salary of say a doctor, starting your own business is the only way to do it, which requires a lot of capital.Donkey_Puncher

Wrong, it's called unions.

I know plenty of friends and family members who are electricians and blue collar workers. They make well over 25 an hour and work for companies.

You the only one where starting a business would be the best idea would be graphics design. Everyother trade is completely possible through hiring of companies

With full benefits, and a spouse on top of that? Yes it is.

People don't need to live in Two story houses and own new cars to live a satisfying life. 25 is more than enough to survive on your own. You also seem to forget that a family will most likely have two incomes as well.

Two people bringing in 25 an hour each can EASILY support a family. EASILY. I can't imagine how you couldn't.

Just over $3K in state is expensive? Wow. I wonder what youd consider my school...NrGcHaRgE021

3K a year is ridiculously cheap, especially for a non-trade school.  Taking out loans with little interest would be a sinch.

Anyone could afford it, short of a dysmal credit rating perhaps.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.NrGcHaRgE021

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]College costs a ton, and tuition is only going up. It's going to continue to exaggerate the gap between the rich and poor in this country. The only way to do it is to have the government pay for college education.-Karayan-

Right, but it's still not as regular professionals seem to bring in.quiglythegreat

Who says that everyone is going to make six figures?

It's unrealistic and ridiculous.  Of course a doctor is going to make more, but it can easily support a family comfurtably. 

Look at plumbers, they make close to 50 an hour for contract jobs.  Same with electricians, HVAC certified people, and drafting students. 

You act like the only way to live is making six figures.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Right, but it's still not as regular professionals seem to bring in.Donkey_Puncher

Who says that everyone is going to make six figures?

It's unrealistic and ridiculous. Of course a doctor is going to make more, but it can easily support a family comfurtably.

Look at plumbers, they make close to 50 an hour for contract jobs. Same with electricians, HVAC certified people, and drafting students.

You act like the only way to live is making six figures.

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Right, but it's still not as regular professionals seem to bring in.quiglythegreat

Who says that everyone is going to make six figures?

It's unrealistic and ridiculous. Of course a doctor is going to make more, but it can easily support a family comfurtably.

Look at plumbers, they make close to 50 an hour for contract jobs. Same with electricians, HVAC certified people, and drafting students.

You act like the only way to live is making six figures.

I wouldn't go that far.  It depends on the trade or Major of the degree, not the school from which it came.  The only real exception I could see would be an ivy league degree meaning more. 

A plumber in a union will probably make more than a standard chemical engineer.

Certain careers pay more than others. 

Luke 19 - Zacchaeus the Tax Collector 

 1Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3He wanted to see who Jesus was, but being a short man he could not, because of the crowd. 4So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way.

 5When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, "Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today." 6So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly.

 7All the people saw this and began to mutter, "He has gone to be the guest of a 'sinner.' "

 8But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount."

 9Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."

[QUOTE="Puiumami"]Luke 18:25 (New International Version) 25Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Luke 19 Zacchaeus the Tax Collector 1Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3He wanted to see who Jesus was, but being a short man he could not, because of the crowd. 4So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way. 5When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, "Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today." 6So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly. 7All the people saw this and began to mutter, "He has gone to be the guest of a 'sinner.' " 8But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount." 9Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."Shalashaska77

Too bad it's true.

[QUOTE="Shalashaska77"][QUOTE="Puiumami"]Luke 18:25 (New International Version) 25Indeed, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Luke 19 Zacchaeus the Tax Collector 1Jesus entered Jericho and was passing through. 2A man was there by the name of Zacchaeus; he was a chief tax collector and was wealthy. 3He wanted to see who Jesus was, but being a short man he could not, because of the crowd. 4So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore-fig tree to see him, since Jesus was coming that way. 5When Jesus reached the spot, he looked up and said to him, "Zacchaeus, come down immediately. I must stay at your house today." 6So he came down at once and welcomed him gladly. 7All the people saw this and began to mutter, "He has gone to be the guest of a 'sinner.' " 8But Zacchaeus stood up and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord! Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount." 9Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham. 10For the Son of Man came to seek and to save what was lost."Puiumami

Too bad it's true.

[QUOTE="2ndWonder"]rich people should help out the poor, it aint like they got anything else better to do with their money, well besides wasting it NrGcHaRgE021

[QUOTE="NrGcHaRgE021"][QUOTE="2ndWonder"]rich people should help out the poor, it aint like they got anything else better to do with their money, well besides wasting it videogamer456

In our current Capitalist society no they shouldn't HAVE to. But they shouldn't be paid so much money in the first place so that there is more money to go to the minimum wage workers who are just barely getting by. sutherland19

So some one with a set skill shouldn't be paid more for said skill, doesn't sound very fair to me. I mean a doctor being paid as much as a call center person. Our system is set up so that anyone can be rich and get paid alot, the only catch is that you actually have to make an effort and not expect to be given anything. In fact the reason communism fails and socialism isn't all its supposed to be is because all the best and brightest wanted to leave to be compinsated for their skill, that and humans are corrupt and greedy so even if we did redistribute the national wealth some one would find away to take advantage of it and end up with more then someone else. Its just the wayit is.

[QUOTE="sutherland19"]In our current Capitalist society no they shouldn't HAVE to. But they shouldn't be paid so much money in the first place so that there is more money to go to the minimum wage workers who are just barely getting by. LeadPipeCruelty

So some one with a set skill shouldn't be paid more for said skill, doesn't sound very fair to me. I mean a doctor being paid as much as a call center person. Our system is set up so that anyone can be rich and get paid alot, the only catch is that you actually have to make an effort and not expect to be given anything. In fact the reason communism fails and socialism isn't all its supposed to be is because all the best and brightest wanted to leave to be compinsated for their skill, that and humans are corrupt and greedy so even if we did redistribute the national wealth some one would find away to take advantage of it and end up with more then someone else. Its just the wayit is.