So Atheists, What's Your Rationale In Your Belief Of No God?

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend.KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??super_mario_128

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"] define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??gubrushadow

You must have meant to say that everything has an origin except god. He's exempt.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Maybe it's all just been here.JML897

How did God come into existence then? Surely something had to create him right?

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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"] yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??gubrushadow

How did God come into existence then? Surely something had to create him right?

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??oh_boss

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"] Dude, Religion isn't math. You can't take it literally, like you do.oh_boss

Nobody takes it literally because it's no longer convenient. There's probably a pretty good chance that much of it (or perhaps even all of it) was taken literally 2000 years ago.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Christian stone an adulterer, divorcee, or homosexual. It's just not socially acceptable anymore.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="JML897"]

How did God come into existence then? Surely something had to create him right?

Brainkiller05

everybody has his own believes , each one must respect the other i think

[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] because religious people do you can't say the part were every species got on a boat and survived a flood was metaphorical and then turn around and say "oh but the part were the guy walked on water and came back from the dead was real" RearNakedChoke

Nobody takes it literally because it's no longer convenient. There's probably a pretty good chance that much of it (or perhaps even all of it) was taken literally 2000 years ago.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Christian stone an adulterer, divorcee, or homosexual. It's just not socially acceptable anymore.

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"] Denying the existence of logical conclusions doesn't make science hard to defend, it makes you deluded.Gallion-Beast

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"] something is beyond the understanding of man , like can you imagine to live forever ?? but the truth only lay when we die , so lets end the conv and see what happens then gubrushadow

everybody has his own believes , each one must respect the other i think

I own respect what is logical and backed up by evidence.

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

[QUOTE="oh_boss"] Nobody takes it literal. Only wanna-be christians who go to the church every sunday.oh_boss

Nobody takes it literally because it's no longer convenient. There's probably a pretty good chance that much of it (or perhaps even all of it) was taken literally 2000 years ago.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Christian stone an adulterer, divorcee, or homosexual. It's just not socially acceptable anymore.

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Sure, but I thought the bible was the holy word of god? Nowadays people just pick and choose what to follow, what not to follow, what should be taken literally, and what shouldn't.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] yes, it's beyond the understanding of man so lets all say it was some magical being that created everything :) :oops: FamiBox

everybody has his own believes , each one must respect the other i think

I own respect what is logical and backed up by evidence.

[QUOTE="oh_boss"]

[QUOTE="RearNakedChoke"]

Nobody takes it literally because it's no longer convenient. There's probably a pretty good chance that much of it (or perhaps even all of it) was taken literally 2000 years ago.

I can't remember the last time I saw a Christian stone an adulterer, divorcee, or homosexual. It's just not socially acceptable anymore.

RearNakedChoke

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Sure, but I thought the bible was the holy word of god? Nowadays people just pick and choose what to follow, what not to follow, what should be taken literally, and what shouldn't.

There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of God, and to believe in him is just as foolish and ridiculous as believing in unicorns or magical dwarves that live in outer space.

bangell99

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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]

everybody has his own believes , each one must respect the other i think

oh_boss

I own respect what is logical and backed up by evidence.

Sure. Go to a gallery.

There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of God, and to believe in him is just as foolish and ridiculous as believing in unicorns or magical dwarves that live in outer space.

bangell99

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] yes, it's beyond the understanding of man so lets all say it was some magical being that created everything :) :oops: FamiBox

everybody has his own believes , each one must respect the other i think

I own respect what is logical and backed up by evidence.

is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

Utter lack of evidence, there are lots of myths but no hard evidence. And the fact that the three major religions take a whole lot of their plot/storylines from previous religions, as did they just adds to the doubt. Just because 90% or 99% of a room of 10 believes something doesn't mean I have to, same goes for the world.

oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow

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There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of God, and to believe in him is just as foolish and ridiculous as believing in unicorns or magical dwarves that live in outer space.

STAR_Admiral

To the spaceships!

[QUOTE="bangell99"]

There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of God, and to believe in him is just as foolish and ridiculous as believing in unicorns or magical dwarves that live in outer space.

oh_boss

It's certainly more complex and meaningful, but no less ridiculous to believe in.

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] Ow please You are twisting my every word. Some people say 'i don't believe in God because of lack of evidence.' I say 'The idea of empirical evidence is as hard to defend as the idea of God.' I never meant that i didn't believe that science existed. Stop twisting my words it was very clear what i meant.KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??JML897

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

I'd suggest reading that.

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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

So basically, most of you don't believe in God because either a)-there's no evidence or b)-because it just seems like a stupid idea.

M'kay, I see.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="JML897"]

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

Bourbons3

well i dont think after death is the end ?? what black screen ?? there is something after death , my believes is another life , i dunno what you belive , but i dont think this conv will lead to something so i think we have to end it

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"] I'm not twisting anything. "Is there evidence for science? I don't think so." Even if you were trying to say that you believe in science despite what you think is a lack of evidence, you were still wrong about there being no evidence. Evidence can be observed. That's why law is based on it as opposed to a judge saying "I have faith that this man is guilty". Evidence can be observed, god cannot. Denying evidence is denying reason and without reasoning there is no discussion. It's the equivalent to a boxer who doesn't believe violence exists and cannot himself use it. It doesn't make him hard to beat, it just means he's making no actual attempt at participating beyond being there.Gallion-Beast

The complete lack of any evidence or logical reasoning to back up the existence of a God. The only thing I ever hear is "You can't prove he doesn't exist, therefore he exists". Personally, when it comes to the existance of something, if there is no proof then it does not exist. I don't give the benefit of the doubt to the Tooth Fairy, Santa or the Boogie Man. A God is no different.

So basically, most of you don't believe in God because either a)-there's no evidence or b)-because it just seems like a stupid idea.

M'kay, I see.

HipYoungster42

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"] that makes no sense , who are the original parents of us al ?? who told them how to have kids ?? how did they communicate ?? these questions need answers , its only supported in the holy booksgubrushadow

well i dont think after death is the end ?? what black screen ?? there is something after death , my believes is another life , i dunno what you belive , but i dont think this conv will lead to something so i think we have to end it

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="JML897"]

It's not a coincidence at all...life is on earth because earth is the only planet we know of that can support life. If Mars was able to support life, there would be life there too.

Brainkiller05

i have to go now talk to you later , check this threaad after some hours

[QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] There is very little grounds for the beliefs that science is based on. Like the idea of a world outside of our minds. The most logical take on the world would be to accept the experience as it is, and not to make all kinds of wild assumptions of there being things that we don't see.KungfuKitten

So basically, most of you don't believe in God because either a)-there's no evidence or b)-because it just seems like a stupid idea.

M'kay, I see.

HipYoungster42

There's no evidence to even believe there is a god and to me religion is just a waste of time.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Gallion-Beast"] The world existing is something I believe in because it's consistent (implying it's not the same as a dream) and again, complete lack of evidence that it doesn't. Science isn't based on beliefs, it's based on evidence. When there is something we do not know, people will sometimes invent theories, and then attempt to prove whether they are true or false, but they are never taken to be true before they are proved. Making all kinds of wild assumptions of there being things that we don't see is exactly the opposite of science. (In fact it's commonly known as religion) If you have little education of the subject of science you might not realise that everything accepted as scientific fact can be proven and is not a wild assumption, but not understanding it doesn't mean it's not based on reason.Gallion-Beast