So Atheists, What's Your Rationale In Your Belief Of No God?

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

curtdoggLP5

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

EDIT: By the way, I said "orderly", not complex.

Like every1 said there is no solid evidence, and I just can't Wrap my mind around the idea that one man put us on here, it sounds preposterous in theory. I think that the reason people chose to beleive in agod is to feel secure in things they do or w/e situation they're in, their beleif gives them peice of mind and thats enough for most people to beleive. It's one thing to beleive in god everyday and its a completely different thing to beleive in god when you're in a time of despair. Me, I personally beleive my own theory that none of us are even alive, theres no death, no pain, no love, were nothing more then abstract peices of our imagination life is a dream that we are forced to watch until we "Die" but we are really not "Dead" at all, in fact we will "relive" our imaginations once again with no memory or past indication of are former selves but everything that occured in that life will happen again so I will be typing this message again even after i "Die"

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

curtdoggLP5

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="oh_boss"] Which god again? D:oh_boss

Oh I do believe that one of those gods exist but I do not choose to let myself be ruled by said god. I don't believe in christianity's god though. I personally think it's a pile of closeminded BS.

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

HipYoungster42

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

[QUOTE="oh_boss"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"] any GOD , your GOD , i dunno which GOD do you think im talking about , but do you believe in one of them ??gubrushadow

Oh I do believe that one of those gods exist but I do not choose to let myself be ruled by said god. I don't believe in christianity's god though. I personally think it's a pile of closeminded BS.

Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.AAllxxjjnn

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.HipYoungster42

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.GTR2addict

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

HipYoungster42

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a ****of phenomena.

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[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="oh_boss"]

Oh I do believe that one of those gods exist but I do not choose to let myself be ruled by said god. I don't believe in christianity's god though. I personally think it's a pile of closeminded BS.

oh_boss

nothing complicated just one GOD , test us , and finally good go to paradise and bad goes to hell , but every body has his own believes so i dont want anyone to quote this and start talking about islam

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.GTR2addict

George Carlin lives on :lol:.

[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

jus2nyce

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a ****of phenomena.

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No empirical evidence.solid_mario

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[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

oh_boss

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a ****of phenomena.

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[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.oh_boss

[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="jus2nyce"] You mix up your terms. A scientific theory also known as an empirical theory is a body scientific of knowledge.

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a ****of phenomena.

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jus2nyce

No I didn't say that. For something to be a theory it needs to be proven first. If the "theory of evolution" isn't yet proven because of said missing links, it isn't a theory, it's a hypothesis. About the missing links: They've found a gap in the evolution chain which makes it not yet proven.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.oh_boss

[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="jus2nyce"] You mix up your terms. A scientific theory also known as an empirical theory is a body scientific of knowledge.

In the sciences, a scientific theory (also called an empirical theory) comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a ****of phenomena.

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jus2nyce

it isnt proven 100% till now , there is a missing link

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.curtdoggLP5

George Carlin lives on :lol:.

[QUOTE="solid_mario"]No empirical evidence.Free_Marxet

There's nothing that backs up the theory that there is no god. You cannot prove a negative.

[QUOTE="jus2nyce"][QUOTE="oh_boss"] But if there are missing links it's not a theory anymore. It's a hypothesis. Am I wrong?oh_boss

No I didn't say that. For something to be a theory it needs to be proven first. If the "theory of evolution" isn't yet proven because of said missing links, it isn't a theory, it's a hypothesis. About the missing links: They've found a gap in the evolution chain which makes it not yet proven.

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

There's nothing that backs up the theory that there is no god. You cannot prove a negative.

dracula_16

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

There's nothing that backs up the theory that there is no god. You cannot prove a negative.

dracula_16

[QUOTE="oh_boss"]

[QUOTE="jus2nyce"] What are the missing? And that's beside the point. Your argument is that evolution is a theory and therefore not proven.jus2nyce

No I didn't say that. For something to be a theory it needs to be proven first. If the "theory of evolution" isn't yet proven because of said missing links, it isn't a theory, it's a hypothesis. About the missing links: They've found a gap in the evolution chain which makes it not yet proven.

i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

T_P_O

I like the idea to, but I understand that any reason to stay alive is a good one, if it is a threat. Lost too many friends this way already :(

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="oh_boss"] But the rules change though. I mean, we've witnessed physical deformations, mental illnesses etc. So if we cannot calculate how or why the rules change...doesn't it mean luck plays a big role in everything?oh_boss

i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

Have you ever died? no i don't think so none of us have and until we experience that for ourselves we will know if there is a god or not but even we can't come back from the dead and speak about it. btw there are no spirits never will be, and we can't rely on size to help us understand if god exists because scienctists are stupid enough to beleive that the Universe was created by a giant explosion :|

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??T_P_O

what ? so why is the human so afraid of death ?? why dont he live forever if he dont have a spirit ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="GazaAli"] the excuses you guys are providing as the reasons why you are atheists are getting old and boring.GazaAli

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

curtdoggLP5

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

You call someone ignorant and make an ignorant statement in turn??

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??jherbach1222

Have you ever died? no i don't think so none of us have and until we experience that for ourselves we will know if there is a god or not but even we can't come back from the dead and speak about it. btw there are no spirits never will be, and we can't rely on size to help us understand if god exists because scienctists are stupid enough to beleive that the Universe was created by a giant explosion :|

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

Wrong on all counts. Please don't consult a pastor to tell you what an atheist thinks of the world.... that's like going to the dollar store to find expensive jewelry. Second, our existance is not a matter of chance; that's an appeal to the lack of answers.

The purpose in life is whatever the person wants. Eternal nothingness is an oxymoron because an atheist probably doesn't believe in eternity, which makes your strawman misleading. The penalty for suicide is the effect it'll have on your family/friends. The only reason any of this seems depressing is because you are distorting what an atheist believes.

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

stepnkev

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

You call someone ignorant and make an ignorant statement in turn??

Well it's true. Many religious people have this idea that Atheists have no beliefs of any kind.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

curtdoggLP5

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism