So Atheists, What's Your Rationale In Your Belief Of No God?

[QUOTE="T_P_O"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

HipYoungster42

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

EDIT: By the way, I said "orderly", not complex.

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism

I'm sure I'm not Agnostic. There is no God, and the reason I am not shackled by Atheism, is because there is no shackles.

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[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

curtdoggLP5

You call someone ignorant and make an ignorant statement in turn??

Well it's true. Many religious people have this idea that Atheists have no beliefs of any kind.

I'm willing to bet you know only a handful of religious people in this world so it's ignorant for you to say 'most' since you do not know 'most' of them.

I know manywho do not think that way.

So it seems Atheists want definitive proof of god before they would believe. Yet faith is to believe in what cannot be proven.

Anyway my question to atheists you believe your existence is by chance, that there is no purpose in life, that there is nothing but eternal nothingness when you die. That there is no penalty for suicide. That nothing you do in life has any meaning.

Don't understand why anyone would choose such a depressing state of existence.

kate_jones

No evidence, isn't it just blind faith?

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="stepnkev"]

You call someone ignorant and make an ignorant statement in turn??

stepnkev

Well it's true. Many religious people have this idea that Atheists have no beliefs of any kind.

I'm willing to bet you know only a handful of religious people in this world so it's ignorant for you to say 'most' since you do not know 'most' of them.

I know manywho do not think that way.

Well, no. I was born a Mormon, and I became an Atheist at 17. I spent years as not only a religious person, but around other religious people. I'm basing it off my experience.

But if there are missing links it's not a theory anymore. It's a hypothesis. Am I wrong?oh_boss

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[QUOTE="HipYoungster42"]

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

The whole "Designed by intelligence" argument is possibly the failest thing ever. Your theory goes by the idea that something complex must have been created by an intelligence. This argument fails right here to begin with, as a designer would have be designed, as they are also a complex being.

Not to mention the fact that Evolution has been proven.

BumFluff122

God's origin is a completely different matter, in which philosophy would have to be injected into this debate. For the third time in a row, I'm not going to be intentionally injecting any form of philosophy into this argument, for philosophy is not something to be compacted into a single post.

It's called the "Theory of Evolution" for a reason. Until it can be 100% proven with no missing links, then I will acknowledge as a theory and nothing more.

EDIT: By the way, I said "orderly", not complex.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

You are ignorant, like most religious people, about Atheists such as myself. Being an Atheist encompasses the denial of any God. Nothing more. To say all Atheists believe in nothing, have no morales etc. is pure crap. You are talking about Nihilists (spelling?), who as far as I know believe in 'nothing'.

Each Atheist has there own set of morales and beliefs, as well as their own purpose or goal in life. Eg. My purpose for my life is to be successful and happy.

On track though, yes I do believe that suicide has no penalty and that death leads to eternal nothingness. It's the truth. Why would I believe in something that isn't true. THAT would be what I call a depressing state of existence. Me? I can live my life free of the shackles of religion, and make my own choices.

EDIT- Excuse my bad spelling and / or grammar, it's almost 5am here lol.

curtdoggLP5

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism

I'm sure I'm not Agnostic. There is no God, and the reason I am not shackled by Atheism, is because there is no shackles.

yet you said you have beliefs, and want to be successfull and happy? what do you believe in, why do you want to be happy?

[QUOTE="oh_boss"]But if there are missing links it's not a theory anymore. It's a hypothesis. Am I wrong?BumFluff122

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[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism

kate_jones

I'm sure I'm not Agnostic. There is no God, and the reason I am not shackled by Atheism, is because there is no shackles.

yet you said you have beliefs, and want to be successfull and happy? what do you believe in, why do you want to be happy?

Beliefs do not = religion. I believe in justice, respect, friendship etc. Do I need to explain why I want to be happy? This is the only lifetime I get, so I want it to be a good one, not a bad one.

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

are you sure youre not agnostic, I am not shackled by religion, and it sounds like you are not shackled by atheism

kate_jones

I'm sure I'm not Agnostic. There is no God, and the reason I am not shackled by Atheism, is because there is no shackles.

yet you said you have beliefs, and want to be successfull and happy? what do you believe in, why do you want to be happy?

hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="BumFluff122"]The excuses? The reason why you think they are getting old is because it is the same reason why many people don't believe in an invisible superman or a flying sppaghetti monster or pink unicorns with tentacles coming out of their eyes. There is no evidence. Since the beginning of your religion of choice there has not been any evidence. That is why to believe one must have 'faith'. Would you like us to come up with another reason why we don't believe?

oh_boss

HOLD IT, right there, im not a christian and i find today's Christianity to be full of delusions.

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="oh_boss"]But if there are missing links it's not a theory anymore. It's a hypothesis. Am I wrong?oh_boss

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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="T_P_O"] I don't know what this "spirit" is, do we have one?

T_P_O

lol exactly what i was thinking

Beliefs do not = religion. I believe in justice, respect, friendship etc. Do I need to explain why I want to be happy? This is the only lifetime I get, so I want it to be a good one, not a bad one.

curtdoggLP5

yes I would like to hear why you want to happy. I dont understand what the difference between a good life and a bad life is to you. Once your dead your dead. Give me one reason why a dead atheist cares about what they did in there life.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??Rocky32189

[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] what was that? again with your unoriginality.GazaAli

HOLD IT, right there, im not a christian and i find today's Christianity to be full of delusions.

[QUOTE="jherbach1222"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

Have you ever died? no i don't think so none of us have and until we experience that for ourselves we will know if there is a god or not but even we can't come back from the dead and speak about it. btw there are no spirits never will be, and we can't rely on size to help us understand if god exists because scienctists are stupid enough to beleive that the Universe was created by a giant explosion :|

I'd say "GOD your AsiaN???"

srry just needed to say something to break the tension here lol

hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="GazaAli"]

[QUOTE="oh_boss"] Actually, even if I support religion, the messages that the christian church is trying to pass nowadays, are pretty "unbelievable"Ed_Cetera

HOLD IT, right there, im not a christian and i find today's Christianity to be full of delusions.

i want to ask the antheists a question , when the one die , his spirit goes out , well what is this spirit and how did it come by coincidence ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??GTR2addict

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??gubrushadow

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

Beliefs do not = religion. I believe in justice, respect, friendship etc. Do I need to explain why I want to be happy? This is the only lifetime I get, so I want it to be a good one, not a bad one.

kate_jones

yes I would like to hear why you want to happy. I dont understand what the difference between a good life and a bad life is to you. Once your dead your dead. Give me one reason why a dead atheist cares about what they did in there life.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

Beliefs do not = religion. I believe in justice, respect, friendship etc. Do I need to explain why I want to be happy? This is the only lifetime I get, so I want it to be a good one, not a bad one.

Free_Marxet

yes I would like to hear why you want to happy. I dont understand what the difference between a good life and a bad life is to you. Once your dead your dead. Give me one reason why a dead atheist cares about what they did in there life.

[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]hey antheists , if HE came down and did miracles that no one can ever imagine , would you believe in him ??gubrushadow

i really wish i could believe in god. but the bible makes no sense. lots of things in it are obviously wrong and just a product of what was believed in the time when it was written. i really wish i could believe that there was a greater purpose and good and evil existed. but i cant. so im stuck in my own nihilistic sad and depressing excistance. if you have a belief that makes you feel good then you shouldn't let it be taken away if you can help itlloveLamp

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]is it a coincidence that the human was on earth the suitable planet of life ?? why wasn't he on mars for example ??gubrushadow

that makes no sense , who are the original parents of us al ?? who told them how to have kids ?? how did they communicate ?? these questions need answers , its only supported in the holy books

Ugh there are so many things wrong with those arguments I wouldn't even know where to begin.

[QUOTE="kate_jones"]

[QUOTE="curtdoggLP5"]

Beliefs do not = religion. I believe in justice, respect, friendship etc. Do I need to explain why I want to be happy? This is the only lifetime I get, so I want it to be a good one, not a bad one.

Free_Marxet

yes I would like to hear why you want to happy. I dont understand what the difference between a good life and a bad life is to you. Once your dead your dead. Give me one reason why a dead atheist cares about what they did in there life.

Thats what I don't get, I dont understand why an atheist cares about there life, also a christian can't do evil things with the intent of being forgiven, at least that is what I was tought. I hope Im being inquisitive as intended and not offensive.

[QUOTE="Free_Marxet"][QUOTE="kate_jones"]

yes I would like to hear why you want to happy. I dont understand what the difference between a good life and a bad life is to you. Once your dead your dead. Give me one reason why a dead atheist cares about what they did in there life.

oh_boss

actually thats kinda right in a way but it can be vice versa as well so that renders your theory obsolete

Thats what I don't get, I dont understand why an atheist cares about there life, also a christian can't do evil things with the intent of being forgiven, at least that is what I was tought. I hope Im being inquisitive as intended and not offensive.

kate_jones

[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Free_Marxet"] an atheist cares more about what they do in life than a christian. Atheists believe in one life, thus you msut live to its fullest potential. a christian can be evil until t he day they die, and ask for forgiveness on the death bed.jherbach1222

actually thats kinda right in a way but it can be vice versa as well so that renders your theory obsolete