So now its more acceptable to be g@y than it is to be a christian?

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] This is true. I also think there's a trend towards religion being on a more personal level rather than through congregations.

LJS9502_basic

lol lame damage control, peopel are going off religion because its rubbish, and how about you keep it on a personal level then if its the in thing?

He presented nothing more then personal opinion, where as the other user actually posted figures. Also I fail to see why you are defending this guy he is a hardcore bigot who makes other religious people look bad.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol lame damage control, peopel are going off religion because its rubbish, and how about you keep it on a personal level then if its the in thing?

tenaka2

He presented nothing more then personal opinion, where as the other user actually posted figures. Also I fail to see why you are defending this guy he is a hardcore bigot who makes other religious people look bad.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

lol lame damage control, peopel are going off religion because its rubbish, and how about you keep it on a personal level then if its the in thing?

tenaka2

He presented nothing more then personal opinion, where as the other user actually posted figures. Also I fail to see why you are defending this guy he is a hardcore bigot who makes other religious people look bad.

Yeah, I agree, a lot of it is due to social issues due to poverty (like out of wedlock childbirth). You can still be a religious Christian w/o going to Church. It all depends on your viewpoint, really.

kingkong0124

Due to poverty, hunh?

Urm...I'm willing to bet most Christians in early period didn't have two coins to rub together.

Poverty, hunh?

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Yeah, I agree, a lot of it is due to social issues due to poverty (like out of wedlock childbirth). You can still be a religious Christian w/o going to Church. It all depends on your viewpoint, really.

br0kenrabbit

Due to poverty, hunh?

Urm...I'm willing to bet most Christians in early period didn't have two coins to rub together.

Poverty, hunh?

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Yeah, I agree, a lot of it is due to social issues due to poverty (like out of wedlock childbirth). You can still be a religious Christian w/o going to Church. It all depends on your viewpoint, really.

kingkong0124

Due to poverty, hunh?

Urm...I'm willing to bet most Christians in early period didn't have two coins to rub together.

Poverty, hunh?

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

Oh, you're talking about people who only look to God when they need something, right? Yeah, I know people like that. I wouldn't for one moment consider them Christians.

Hey, on-topic: did you know God doesn't see your individual sins, just whether or not he knows you? So, if you have lustful thought toward women you aren't married to, he looks upon you the same as he would a homosexual, according to Biblical text.

You do realize that, right?

Pot...kettle...

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Yeah, I agree, a lot of it is due to social issues due to poverty (like out of wedlock childbirth). You can still be a religious Christian w/o going to Church. It all depends on your viewpoint, really.

kingkong0124

Due to poverty, hunh?

Urm...I'm willing to bet most Christians in early period didn't have two coins to rub together.

Poverty, hunh?

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

i wonder who to believe, facts or your opinion? i think the choise is simple.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

WHY YES, YES IT IS

being gay is acceptable, afaik they didn't choose to be born that way and they aren't harming anyone with their lifestyle

being christian has brought many wars, intolerance and people telling others what they can and can't do

if i have to choose between which of the two is more acceptable to me, is an easy choise

LJS9502_basic

you can call me w/e you want, i am tolerant with people who don't have a choise with their sexuality not with stupidity by choise.

The Chick-Fil-A CEO has the right to express his views no matter how stupid they are. Similarly people have the right to boycott an organization for whatever reason they like no matter how stupid they are.. People also have the right to (rightfully) call the Chick-Fil-A CEO a bigot on their facebook page. JML897

K, better.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Due to poverty, hunh?

Urm...I'm willing to bet most Christians in early period didn't have two coins to rub together.

Poverty, hunh?

Krelian-co

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

i wonder who to believe, facts or your opinion? i think the choise is simple.

I hate to be a grammar nazi, but it's ironic how you made a pretty obvious mispelling, and yet you go around claming atheists are more intelligent than religious people.

From my point of view yes. Better to be g@y than to have self imposed idiocy.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

ShadowMoses900

i wonder who to believe, facts or your opinion? i think the choise is simple.

I hate to be a grammar nazi, but it's ironic how you made a pretty obvious mispelling, and yet you go around claming atheists are more intelligent than religious people.

Certainly, a typo is the measure of intelligence.

I wish the TC hadn't disappeared right after my last post.

No... Being Christian is still WAAAAYYYYYYY more acceptable than being gay What isn't acceptable is the use of religion to discriminate against others. If gays were using religion, or some other sort of ideology, to persecute and discriminate, it'd be just as bad. Unfortunately for you, TC, they are not.

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Things like being born out of wedlock are associated with poverty...there are a variety of factors you have to take in to account. If anything, church attendance has gone up in recent years because of the economic crisis.

ShadowMoses900

i wonder who to believe, facts or your opinion? i think the choise is simple.

I hate to be a grammar nazi, but it's ironic how you made a pretty obvious mispelling, and yet you go around claming atheists are more intelligent than religious people.

english is not my primary language but for the sake of you finally winning an argument on a religious thread i'll give you +1 care

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FalcoLX

I doubt that will ever be true in the U.S., unless you are someone who truly believes that part of being christian is restricting gay people's lives (not that you are).

OT has taught me that if you put a bunch of young liberal atheists in a same place you are doomed to get ridiculed and insulted if you don't fit in said category. With the different opinions I see here the only common ground I see here is that all of us are gamers (If you're not a gamer then what are you even doing on Gamespot in the first place?).

But I really disagree with any type of oppression against people who are outside of the norm (with the exception of such people as child rapists and other scum of the Earth).You can't get mad at someone for believing something different than you but when their belief is messing with your lifestyle I can see how a person will get pissed off.

Okay this whole Chick-Fil-A boycott controversy has got me thinking. Now I am a christian and I too believe in the biblical relationships between man and woman, I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle. HOWEVER, I am not a bigot or a person that goes around gay bashing, in fact I have a family member that is gay My family is mostly made up of christians and we still love my gay family member but he knows we don't agree with his lifestyle. I know christians are getting a bad rap as being bigots etc but not all of us are the over the top crazy types. I hate the sin, not the person.Anyway, now Chick- Fil-A makes a statement standing by their beliefs and people act all offended. Its no secret that Chick is a christian owned company (hello, they are closed on Sundays) so I think its really dumb that people are boycotting them for their beliefs.

The media and lots of other people are calling the bigots and attacking their facebook page etc. Just because someone is a christian and beleives in what the bible says about marriage, that doesn't mean they are a hateful person. I mean we are still in America right? We aren't allowed to have freedom of religion anymore?? Its like if your not accepting homosexuality with open arms, you deemed a terrible person really. The way things are now, it will soon by a crime to have christian beliefs. It's just shocking to me........... So what do you think? Is it more acceptable to be homosexual than it is to be a christian in today's society?

djshowstopper87

1) The bible also says that marriage should only be your last resort if you can't deal with abstinence.

2) How does gay people being gay affect you?

3) Marriage is a legal contract. I see no problem with homophobic churches not marrying gay couples. But that is a spiritual contract. Gays want the legal one.

4) Chik fil a has every right to be as bigoted as they want. However everyone has the right to boycott them for being bigots.

OT has taught me that if you put a bunch of young liberal atheists in a same place you are doomed to get ridiculed and insulted if you don't fit in said category. With the different opinions I see here the only common ground I see here is that all of us are gamers (If you're not a gamer then what are you even doing on Gamespot in the first place?).

But I really disagree with any type of oppression against people who are outside of the norm (with the exception of such people as child rapists and other scum of the Earth).You can't get mad at someone for believing something different than you but when their belief is messing with your lifestyle I can see how a person will get pissed off.

ad1x2

Don't say nothing bad about gay people on here or everyone will get butt hurt Bucked20

no, but it's more acceptable to be gay than a bigoted christian, i'd say

HOWEVER, I am not a bigot or a person that goes around gay bashing, in fact I have a family member that is gay My family is mostly made up of christians and we still love my gay family member but he knows we don't agree with his lifestyle.

djshowstopper87

True love comes from acceptance, while active severance causes strife.

LOL no.

In a perfect world, yeah.

Don't say nothing bad about gay people on here or everyone will get butt hurt Bucked20

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

noscope-ak47

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

noscope-ak47

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

noscope-ak47

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

noscope-ak47

3/10 had me until the second sentence.

This caption sums up my thoughts

This caption sums up my thoughts

PonchoTaco

This has to be the fiftieth time that someone has said this, and this will make about the fiftieth time that it has been pointed out that it's not just him voicing his opinion, he's funding anti-gay groups with profits from his chain. I have to ask, are you not paying attention at all or are you just slow?

Case in point trolls pop up:lol:

Case in point trolls pop up:lol:

noscope-ak47

OT is full of liberal kids with strange ideas they in no way shape or form represent the real world. How do you know your normal when they troll you, so be happy you a normal christian male.

noscope-ak47

Yes.

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]

This caption sums up my thoughts

theone86

This has to be the fiftieth time that someone has said this, and this will make about the fiftieth time that it has been pointed out that it's not just him voicing his opinion, he's funding anti-gay groups with profits from his chain. I have to ask, are you not paying attention at all or are you just slow?

it's unacceptable to use your religion to keep others from obtaining equality in society.

Serraph105

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="PonchoTaco"]

This caption sums up my thoughts

PonchoTaco

This has to be the fiftieth time that someone has said this, and this will make about the fiftieth time that it has been pointed out that it's not just him voicing his opinion, he's funding anti-gay groups with profits from his chain. I have to ask, are you not paying attention at all or are you just slow?

And like some other person pointed out, his restaurants only operate in 38 states so some people may have not even known they existed, much less were owned by an anti-gay fundamentalist.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

it's unacceptable to use your religion to keep others from obtaining equality in society.

ferrari2001