The United States vs The United Kingdom

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

Pirate700

Guys, when will you accept that you're both just terrible :P

Why didn't you include the tax rate?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]You brits don't have poptarts either. -Sun_Tzu-

Yeah we do. Don't know where you got that from. Had some for breakfast this morning. Chocolate and Marshmallow flavor.

Ninja-Hippo

You disgust me. Wildberry is way better than chocolate and marshmallow.

INFINITELY FVCKING SUPERIOR

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

Yeah we do. Don't know where you got that from. Had some for breakfast this morning. Chocolate and Marshmallow flavor.

Necrifer

You disgust me. Wildberry is way better than chocolate and marshmallow.

Fruit? In *my* poptarts? Get out of this thread, commie.

Ninja-Hippo

Things need to change around here!

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm talking about modern U.K..

BluRayHiDef

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

But you just said "The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.":|

So your saying that they DON'T butt into other peoples countries....but they do....just not as much, as America? But they totally don't butt into someone elses country?:?

:lol:

Well I never.-Sun_Tzu-

If u dun like Murrica then u can giiiit out.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why didn't you include the tax rate?Ninja-Hippo

Obviously, you have never earned minimum wage here in the US. While tax cuts here in the US have lowered what those at the minimum wage end have to pay, It has been more over the years. If the US were to start to offer free medical care (not really free, but paid for by taxpayers) or free college tuition (again paid for by taxpayers), it would have to be paid for by someone and that even includes those making minimum wage.

As it is, you state that your income taxes are 20% but fail to include that national health care tax you have to pay with that. That boosts the amount of taxes you pay and are still paying for your own health care, even if you are paying it to your government instead of the your own doctor's office. Oh wait, do you get to choose which doctor you get to see as we here in the US do?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why didn't you include the tax rate?WhiteKnight77

Obviously, you have never earned minimum wage here in the US. While tax cuts here in the US have lowered what those at the minimum wage end have to pay, It has been more over the years. If the US were to start to offer free medical care (not really free, but paid for by taxpayers) or free college tuition (again paid for by taxpayers), it would have to be paid for by someone and that even includes those making minimum wage.

As it is, you state that your income taxes are 20% but fail to include that national health care tax you have to pay with that. That boosts the amount of taxes you pay and are still paying for your own health care, even if you are paying it to your government instead of the your own doctor's office. Oh wait, do you get to choose which doctor you get to see as we here in the US do?

Yes you do pick the Docter/GP you want. You don't get assigned anyone unless your hospitalised. National Insuranceif you earn more than £146 a week and up to £817 a week, is 12% of the amount you earn between £146 and £817, ontop of the 20% income tax.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why didn't you include the tax rate?WhiteKnight77

Obviously, you have never earned minimum wage here in the US. While tax cuts here in the US have lowered what those at the minimum wage end have to pay, It has been more over the years. If the US were to start to offer free medical care (not really free, but paid for by taxpayers) or free college tuition (again paid for by taxpayers), it would have to be paid for by someone and that even includes those making minimum wage.

As it is, you state that your income taxes are 20% but fail to include that national health care tax you have to pay with that. That boosts the amount of taxes you pay and are still paying for your own health care, even if you are paying it to your government instead of the your own doctor's office. Oh wait, do you get to choose which doctor you get to see as we here in the US do?

Yes you do pick the Docter/GP you want. You don't get assigned anyone unless your hospitalised. National Insuranceif you earn more than £146 a week and up to £817 a week, is 12% of the amount you earn between £146 and £817, ontop of the 20% income tax.

tomo90

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

Yes you do pick the Docter/GP you want. You don't get assigned anyone unless your hospitalised. National Insuranceif you earn more than £146 a week and up to £817 a week, is 12% of the amount you earn between £146 and £817, ontop of the 20% income tax.

Ninja-Hippo

Exactly. Theres real miss information floating around the states about the NHS and our tax system, most likely motivated by the fear and anxiety surrounding the health care reform taking place. British MP's like this man really don't help matters.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

American food is terrible . At least we have black pudding, Haggis,Chicken Tikka Masala, and the full english.

Necrifer

Tacos, chow mein and pizza are better than all of the above.

Apple Pie is an original American food.BranKetra

Apple Pie is an original American food.BranKetra

English apple pie recipes go back to the time ofChaucer. The 1381 recipe (see illustration at right) lists the ingredients asgoodapples, goodspices,figs,raisinsandpears.Thecofynof the recipe is a casing of pastry.Saffronis used for colouring the pie filling.

In English speaking countries, apple pie is a dessert of enduring popularity, eaten hot or cold, on its own or withice cream,double cream, orcustard.

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Apple Pie is an original American food.toast_burner

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="tomo90"]

Yes you do pick the Docter/GP you want. You don't get assigned anyone unless your hospitalised. National Insuranceif you earn more than £146 a week and up to £817 a week, is 12% of the amount you earn between £146 and £817, ontop of the 20% income tax.

tomo90

Exactly. Theres real miss information floating around the states about the NHS and our tax system, most likely motivated by the fear and anxiety surrounding the health care reform taking place. British MP's like this man really don't help matters.

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

The United States. The United Kingdom is looking more and more like South Asia and the whole country lacks hot girls in general.

kingkong0124

South Asia?:?

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Apple Pie is an original American food.toast_burner

British people have bad teeth. US wins.

One thing though I am envious of UK of is their health care system. Here in the US we don't have a system like the NHS, and I wish we did to some degree. I don't know how good it actually works, but I can say this: Our health care system is broken in the US.

There is no denying this, many people go without treatment because they can't afford it (you can however still get treatment for emergency conditions, however even then people fall through the cracks).

I don't know what the best way to go about it is, and I'm curious as to see how it works over there. I have some money saved up, I might go there and see for myself. To bad I don't know anyone in the UK :(

Also I hear the UK and Europe as a whole is very anti semitic still, and as a person of Jewish Heritage I am a little nervous.

Also I hear the UK and Europe as a whole is very anti semitic still, and as a person of Jewish Heritage I am a little nervous.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

Ninja-Hippo

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]Apple Pie is an original American food.BranKetra

English apple pie recipes go back to the time ofChaucer. The 1381 recipe (see illustration at right) lists the ingredients asgoodapples, goodspices,figs,raisinsandpears.Thecofynof the recipe is a casing of pastry.Saffronis used for colouring the pie filling. In English speaking countries, apple pie is a dessert of enduring popularity, eaten hot or cold, on its own or withice cream,double cream, orcustard.OmenUK

British people have bad teeth. US wins.

MacBoomStick

Nope, we've got the best teeth in the world.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Also I hear the UK and Europe as a whole is very anti semitic still, and as a person of Jewish Heritage I am a little nervous.

Ninja-Hippo

I see European media sometimes, they often show very anti-Israeli stuff, which often times seems to give off an anti-semitic vibe. And when I play online sometimes I come across British People and they are always making racist jokes towards Jews and they say UK hates Jews and wants to expell them.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

While the UK does have some advantages, the US is still the better country. For one the US didn't ban guns like a bunch of pvssies, and we have the most variety here.

We have people from EVERY ethnicity here, we are a mix of multiple cultures, while the UK has some of this to a degree, it's not anywhere close to the same level as we do here. And this mixing of cultures and ethnic groups has made us the most powerful country in the world.

It's very hard for foreigners to understand, I see a lot of British people and Europeans in general that make political comments about the US. But the thing is they don't really understand it, the US political scene is on a whole different level than the ones you guys are used to.

There is a lot more power an influence involved here. On top of this we also have a lot more variety in politics, each state can be VERY different from the other and as a result they have different issues and values.

Though that being said, the Republican vs Democrat thing only seeks to divide us and is going to be the death of our country. Despite all our issues, we have more oppurtunity here than the UK.

ShadowMoses900

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Guns are not banned in the UK. That is a common misconception. Guns are merely controlled. Roughly two million people own firearms in the UK (legal ones, that is). Also, the rest of your post was puerile garbage. Just sayin'

Overlord93

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

British people have bad teeth. US wins.

MacBoomStick

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

ShadowMoses900

I don't mind people thinking they live in the best country, i really don't. Some countries are obviously better than others. There is truly nothing worse than people who decide to jump on a horse and start telling others how inferior they are when they have *no effing clue* what they are talking about and absolutely no experience whatsoever of any of the nations they speak of other than their own.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Also I hear the UK and Europe as a whole is very anti semitic still, and as a person of Jewish Heritage I am a little nervous.

ShadowMoses900

I see European media sometimes, they often show very anti-Israeli stuff, which often times seems to give off an anti-semitic vibe. And when I play online sometimes I come across British People and they are always making racist jokes towards Jews and they say UK hates Jews and wants to expell them.

Mexican, Chinese, Italian, you yanks have to steal food from other countries and claim it as your own lol

OmenUK

Tacos were invented by a white guy. Chow mein was invented by a Jewish American. Pizza was never Italian and was largely Americanized when we went all "deep-dish" on its ass.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Also I hear the UK and Europe as a whole is very anti semitic still, and as a person of Jewish Heritage I am a little nervous.

ShadowMoses900

I see European media sometimes, they often show very anti-Israeli stuff, which often times seems to give off an anti-semitic vibe. And when I play online sometimes I come across British People and they are always making racist jokes towards Jews and they say UK hates Jews and wants to expell them.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Guns are not banned in the UK. That is a common misconception. Guns are merely controlled. Roughly two million people own firearms in the UK (legal ones, that is). Also, the rest of your post was puerile garbage. Just sayin'

Overlord93

You can't carry concealed hand guns for personal defense like you can in the US. In fact you can't even own hand guns there period. This means you fail instantly.

A man who is gives up his right to bear arms gives up all his other rights as well.

And good job at countering my points there, you are one skilled debater.

Criminals have guns, they will ALWAYS have guns. They are CRIMINALS, they get them through the BLACK MARKET. Government bans guns, means YOU and other CIVILAINS can't buy guns, doesn't mean the CRIMINALS won't. They now knowing you don't have a way to defend yourself can now go and kill you more easy.

Why is this so hard to understand? Anti-Gun loonys are something else.

Obviously the US. The freedom to actually own handguns is a plus. There's no ridiculous VAT, and our food is better.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Are you trying to give people headaches through all the facepalms? Is that your goal? OmenUK

I see European media sometimes, they often show very anti-Israeli stuff, which often times seems to give off an anti-semitic vibe. And when I play online sometimes I come across British People and they are always making racist jokes towards Jews and they say UK hates Jews and wants to expell them.

Lol what Jewish ran media? There is no such thing, take off your tin foil hat. And your medai sucks too, paying TAXES for a TV network (BBC)? That's an instant fail bro.

Might as well pay taxes to Newspapers and Radio Stations while your at it :lol:

[QUOTE="OmenUK"]

Mexican, Chinese, Italian, you yanks have to steal food from other countries and claim it as your own lol

Necrifer

Tacos were invented by a white guy. Chow mein was invented by a Jewish American. Pizza was never Italian and was largely Americanized when we went all "deep-dish" on its ass.

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