U.S. bugged EU offices.

Not really. They don't tell each other how they are doing it.....or when.LJS9502_basic

Yes, it does. STELLAR WIND/PRISM will be haunting us for a very, very long time.

Rofl. U.S. deserves every bit of shit they get thrown at themselves now. Rich3232

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

It's time to stop trying to arrest this traitor, and seriously consider terminating him before he hands over something that gets people killed.

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God damn, we're reaching that point of power and age where we're becoming extremely paranoid that anyone and anything could become a threat to the United States' reputation as a superpower, so we're spying on others and crushing any opposition that gets in the way, no matter how insignificant.

We'll tear ourselves apart from the inside as the citizens become fed up with a government that can't even trust themselves.

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

God damn, we're reaching that point of power and age where we're becoming extremely paranoid that anyone and anything could become a threat to the United States' reputation as a superpower, so we're spying on others and crushing any opposition that gets in the way, no matter how insignificant.

We'll tear ourselves apart from the inside as the citizens become fed up with a government that can't even trust themselves.

WiiCubeM1

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[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

It's time to stop trying to arrest this traitor, and seriously consider terminating him before he hands over something that gets people killed.

OrkHammer007

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

hartsickdiscipl

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

OrkHammer007

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

OrkHammer007

Illegal intelligence-gathering techniques.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

OrkHammer007

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[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

It's time to stop trying to arrest this traitor, and seriously consider terminating him before he hands over something that gets people killed.

OrkHammer007

We are at a point with Snowden where he is practically untouchable by us. While his leaks may have damaged US operations in ways that the government can't admit due to the full damage effects being classified, most people don't care because they are more concerned about their privacy and don't compare Snowden to people who have done obvious damage such as selling military plans to the enemy. Anything negative we pull up on him (to include threats to release the names of agents) is being dismissed as a smear campaign to get the public off of his side.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

OrkHammer007

As for my personal comment on this topic. This is obviously going to damper the United States' rep with the EU (if true). This is just gonna raise even more questions on US. AccursedGamer

Not a single shit will be given from the American electorate.

The NSA has to be stopped. They don't run the world. They don't run me. I'm going to keep typing until they pull me from my keyboaaaaaaaa

In answer to you all:

Riots: So? A few people die of doing something stupid. I weighed against the lives of intelligence assets and their families, and I say sacrifice the rioters.

International law: what "international law?" Show me the governing body that supercedes any nation's sovereignty. Then explain why US bugging of foreign governments is somehow more heinous than what some of these dictators have done to their people, which this fictional body has done nothing about.

Treasomn is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. What Snowden has done has given our enemies in al Qaeda and Afghanistan our intelligence-gathering methods and damaged diplomatic relations with other nations. It's not "whistle blowing" anymore. Kill him before he does any more damage.

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

hartsickdiscipl

In answer to you all:

Riots: So? A few people die of doing something stupid. I weighed against the lives of intelligence assets and their families, and I say sacrifice the rioters.

International law: what "international law?" Show me the governing body that supercedes any nation's sovereignty. Then explain why US bugging of foreign governments is somehow more heinous than what some of these dictators have done to their people, which this fictional body has done nothing about.

Treasomn is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemy. What Snowden has done has given our enemies in al Qaeda and Afghanistan our intelligence-gathering methods and damaged diplomatic relations with other nations. It's not "whistle blowing" anymore. Kill him before he does any more damage.

 

OrkHammer007

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Spying on the United Nations: 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spying_on_the_United_Nations

Riots: So? A few people die of doing something stupid. I weighed against the lives of intelligence assets and their families, and I say sacrifice the rioters.OrkHammer007

Okay, spy on your own country if you want, but leave the world alone.

[QUOTE="m25105"]Dear yanks, please spy on our own citizens and leave the rest of the world alone.Pirate700

US goverment = fascist in disguise
Funny how yanks are propaganding things on their world agenda such as democracy, freedom and solidarity... yet they act like a "world police (gestapo)". Filthy spies.
I'd say stick to your domestic issues and leave the rest of the world alone. Shame on people that regard Snowden as a traitor, wish this world had more people like him, might have been a better place to live.

Not a single shit will be given from the American electorate.

DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="m25105"]Dear yanks, please spy on our own citizens and leave the rest of the world alone.Pirate700

America seems to be pioneering in that department at the moment.

Spying on your political allies no less? Let's not be apologists now OT posters.

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

US goverment = fascist in disguise
Funny how yanks are propaganding things on their world agenda such as democracy, freedom and solidarity... yet they act like a "world police (gestapo)". Filthy spies.
I'd say stick to your domestic issues and leave the rest of the world alone. Shame on people that regard Snowden as a traitor, wish this world had more people like him, might have been a better place to live.

TheWalkingGhost

[quote="Reuters"]Only Canada, Australia, Britain and New Zealand were explicitly exempted from spy attacks.Hexagon_777

Because they are all part of the Five Eyes program.  They spy on each other's people and trade the info, getting around things easier

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]

US goverment = fascist in disguise
Funny how yanks are propaganding things on their world agenda such as democracy, freedom and solidarity... yet they act like a "world police (gestapo)". Filthy spies.
I'd say stick to your domestic issues and leave the rest of the world alone. Shame on people that regard Snowden as a traitor, wish this world had more people like him, might have been a better place to live.

V3rciS

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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] :roll: So much stupidity. Go ahead and act like this isn't common world over. Hypocrite.TheWalkingGhost

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="m25105"]Dear yanks, please spy on our own citizens and leave the rest of the world alone.Leejjohno

America seems to be pioneering in that department at the moment.

Spying on your political allies no less? Let's not be apologists now OT posters.

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]
you know what the yank problem is? Paranoia... you think WORLD is against you, in reality no one gives a fvck. The only times someone "hurt" you was because you were provocative and acted first, had you not been agressive in the first place nothing would happen.
I've no prob with you Americans but sometimes you guys crossing the line, might not end good.

V3rciS

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] :roll: Do you even believe the crap you type? I am sure Russia and North Korea were so wronged by the USA. Nice generalization and bigotry you got there. I smell a troll, and rather rank one.Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]lol You don't think every major country spies on the others?

Toxic-Seahorse

America seems to be pioneering in that department at the moment.

Spying on your political allies no less? Let's not be apologists now OT posters.

Probably because most other nations do not spy on their allies in what appears to be very high risk ways. Intelligence gathering and spying are at different places on the spectrum. It was dumb... the the intent of such actions is more than questionable from an EU standpoint.

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] :roll: Do you even believe the crap you type? I am sure Russia and North Korea were so wronged by the USA. Nice generalization and bigotry you got there. I smell a troll, and rather rank one.Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

People here saying that Snowden needs to be taken out make me want to throw up.  He is a whistleblower, plain and simple.  He's just a very well-informed and fearless one.  The more illegal activities that he uncovers, the better.  A government that does this kind of crap doesn't deserve respect.  

hartsickdiscipl

Illegal intelligence-gathering techniques.  

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

America seems to be pioneering in that department at the moment.

Spying on your political allies no less? Let's not be apologists now OT posters.

Leejjohno

Probably because most other nations do not spy on their allies in what appears to be very high risk ways. Intelligence gathering and spying are at different places on the spectrum. It was dumb... the the intent of such actions is more than questionable from an EU standpoint.

Okay, spy on your own country if you want, but leave the world alone.

Big_Pecks

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]He stopped being a whistleblower when he blabbed to the foreign press. He became a flat-out traitor when he leaked US intelligence-gathering techniques to a foreign power. Stop defending him.

LJS9502_basic

Illegal intelligence-gathering techniques.  

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

America seems to be pioneering in that department at the moment.

Spying on your political allies no less? Let's not be apologists now OT posters.

Leejjohno

Probably because most other nations do not spy on their allies in what appears to be very high risk ways. Intelligence gathering and spying are at different places on the spectrum. It was dumb... the the intent of such actions is more than questionable from an EU standpoint.