War between North America and Europe

europe would win more population and more gdp, we just spend our money into social things like healtcare thats why america has the stronger army now.

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]Also, A correction to many, europeans don't hate americans, they hate the american government! And osme of them hate you for not opposing the vile things your government do in order for 'Justice and Equality'Messiahbolical-

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

And to be quite honest, if all Europeans hated was our government... what explains the constant ridiculing and stereotyping of Americans by saying garbage like "all Americans do is sit on their fat asses and eat McDonalds" or "Americans are so stupid"? Is that because of our government? LOL :roll:

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]Also, A correction to many, europeans don't hate americans, they hate the american government! And osme of them hate you for not opposing the vile things your government do in order for 'Justice and Equality'blue_hazy_basic

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

And to be quite honest, if all Europeans hated was our government... what explains the constant ridiculing and stereotyping of Americans by saying garbage like "all Americans do is sit on their fat asses and eat McDonalds" or "Americans are so stupid"? Is that because of our government? LOL :roll:

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]Also, A correction to many, europeans don't hate americans, they hate the american government! And osme of them hate you for not opposing the vile things your government do in order for 'Justice and Equality'blue_hazy_basic

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

And to be quite honest, if all Europeans hated was our government... what explains the constant ridiculing and stereotyping of Americans by saying garbage like "all Americans do is sit on their fat asses and eat McDonalds" or "Americans are so stupid"? Is that because of our government? LOL :roll:

Being that I am part Native American, yes. Also, the US government pays quite literally for that mistake everyday. In addition to having sovereign territory within the US (i.e. Reservations) and profiting from non-taxable gambling revenue, full-blooded Native Americans get somewhere in the neighborhood of $4,000 to $6,000 dollars per month in Federal money. What have the Germans done for the Jews lately?

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Austin, at least i think thats south texas, dallas was perfectly fine though. [QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]

This video defines why people hate the american government

Now I've been to America and Im glad to see the american people are fine (apart from when I went south Texas, enough racism there)

doesntcare

Not defending the guy but what little I watched he is talking about foreign policy of the nation.. :| You don't have to be a citizen to be critical of a foreign policy of a nation that affects countless worldwide since the 1950s..

Exactly, no need to drop atomic bombs on cities either

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="SPBoss"]Also, A correction to many, europeans don't hate americans, they hate the american government! And osme of them hate you for not opposing the vile things your government do in order for 'Justice and Equality'blue_hazy_basic

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

And to be quite honest, if all Europeans hated was our government... what explains the constant ridiculing and stereotyping of Americans by saying garbage like "all Americans do is sit on their fat asses and eat McDonalds" or "Americans are so stupid"? Is that because of our government? LOL :roll:

plenty of Native Americans, particularly out West.

excuse me if I am incorrect but wasn't their a Spanish Inquisition, and didn't the conquistadors wipe out many of the natives in Mexico on south?

And the British.....they were probably the worst of all!

Exactly, no need to drop atomic bombs on cities eitherSPBoss

Don't think for one second that Great Britain wasn't in full compliance of the act. They were developing atomic bombs for the same purpose at the same time.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] America's so vile compared to Europe, yet it's European countries that have committed genocide and other vile things. Makes a whole lot of sense, right? Seriously.

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

And to be quite honest, if all Europeans hated was our government... what explains the constant ridiculing and stereotyping of Americans by saying garbage like "all Americans do is sit on their fat asses and eat McDonalds" or "Americans are so stupid"? Is that because of our government? LOL :roll:

surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I read this and laughed out loud. Have you ever met a native American? No? Well thats because they were wiped out by the US army/government. Maybe you shouldn't throw stones in a glass house?AngelNeo00

So when it comes to destroying a people Americans will not refer to themselves as an American rather their "old countries" yet when it comes to apparently winning WW 2 all by yourselves you refer to yourselves Americans. So you only have a cultural identity when you do good things. Awesome.

[QUOTE=Messiahbolical]

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

Uhh Have you heard of the Phillipine American war? You guys put is in concentration camps(YES AMERICA DID) took all of our crap used us and then said okay we're done with you and left our country.

That's pretty Vile to me. Stop reading out of your American history books.

[QUOTE=Messiahbolical]

What has America done so vile and disgusting compared to Europe? I'm dying to hear the ridiculous conspiracies you pull out of your ass. The American government gets the most unjustified hate out of any group of people in the world. Maybe not the best government in the world, but certainly not "vile" like so many people make them out to be.

Nazi Germany(which in Europe btw) = Vile

Rwanda genocide = Vile

Armenian genocide by the Ottoman Empire(another empire that was in Europe) = Vile

So what has America done that's so vile?

XxspritexX

Uhh Have you heard of the Phillipine American war? You guys put is in concentration camps(YES AMERICA DID) took all of our crap used us and then said okay we're done with you and left our country.

That's pretty Vile to me. Stop reading out of your American history books.

One must look at both sides of the story,or else things tend to get messy.

[QUOTE="Fundai"]

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"] i know the facts i'm just stating that any bombing of innocent civilians isnt right and should not be done and what the US did by dropping 2 atomic bombs on pretty much completely undefended and strategically insignifigant cities was completey wrong and evil.sonofsmeagle

It was a show of force... wrong, but nothing more than a show of force

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="Fundai"]

It was a show of force... wrong, but nothing more than a show of force

Messiahbolical-

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="Fundai"]

It was a show of force... wrong, but nothing more than a show of force

Messiahbolical-

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"] Then show your force by dropping it on or around a military installation not on civiliansIlovegames1992

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"] Then show your force by dropping it on or around a military installation not on civiliansIlovegames1992

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

I don't know much about Hiroshima, but Nagasaki was an Imperial Japanese Navy town... correct? The fact is, whether justified or not, civilians were killed but it was better off for both sides in the greater schemes of things. I'm not saying it's okay to kill civilians, but do you honestly think that if America didn't devastate Japan by any means necessary that Japan wouldn't have just done the same thing? Both countries were desperate to strike huge blows. Who's to say that Japan wouldn't have nuked the US if they had the chance? I mean... I saw a special on these bombs that floated on balloons across the ocean to land in American cities. LMFAO. Couldn't it be any more obvious how desperate they were to get a strike in on our homeland?Messiahbolical-

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

sonofsmeagle

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] No such thing as a "disgusting" in war. In war anything goes, you have to do whatever it takes to win. That is what America did. It might be disgusting to you. But morals shouldn't exist in war. "All is fair in love nd war" I'm getting tired of this same argument about atomic bombs. It was a war, to America it was necessary get over it.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] I don't know much about Hiroshima, but Nagasaki was an Imperial Japanese Navy town... correct? The fact is, whether justified or not, civilians were killed but it was better off for both sides in the greater schemes of things. I'm not saying it's okay to kill civilians, but do you honestly think that if America didn't devastate Japan by any means necessary that Japan wouldn't have just done the same thing? Both countries were desperate to strike huge blows. Who's to say that Japan wouldn't have nuked the US if they had the chance? I mean... I saw a special on these bombs that floated on balloons across the ocean to land in American cities. LMFAO. Couldn't it be any more obvious how desperate they were to get a strike in on our homeland?MgamerBD

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Wow.

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Ilovegames1992

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Messiahbolical-

No they dont. Not from me anyway. As i said in an earlier post. All governments have done bad things. Jesus Christ.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] I don't know much about Hiroshima, but Nagasaki was an Imperial Japanese Navy town... correct? The fact is, whether justified or not, civilians were killed but it was better off for both sides in the greater schemes of things. I'm not saying it's okay to kill civilians, but do you honestly think that if America didn't devastate Japan by any means necessary that Japan wouldn't have just done the same thing? Both countries were desperate to strike huge blows. Who's to say that Japan wouldn't have nuked the US if they had the chance? I mean... I saw a special on these bombs that floated on balloons across the ocean to land in American cities. LMFAO. Couldn't it be any more obvious how desperate they were to get a strike in on our homeland?sonofsmeagle

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Did you see the "like every country has" part? How about Australians and the aborigines?

People who criticize the U.S. need to take a long look at their own country and stop being hypocrites.

Once again I say, most countries in the U.S. shoes would have done the same thing, certainly Britain would have. So you guys need to let it go.

It was WAR and we saved alot of American lives by doing it, whether you like it or not, that was the important thing to us.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Ilovegames1992

No they dont. Not from me anyway. As i said in an earlier post. All governments have done bad things. Jesus Christ.

Also, are we going to even mention some of the disturbing **** you've done in the field of Eugenics in the past century? I dont wanna go down that road but if you think the USA is the ethical shining light in the world you are mistaken. I'm done.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

sonofsmeagle

MOST any thing goes in war, including massive bombing of the enemy to save 100's of thousands of your own countries' lives. It was necessary to nuke Japan to soften them up before an invasion if they stubbornly didn't surrender.

You guys just don't seem to get it.....but ask yourself honestly "Wouldn't your government drop atomic bombs if it saved 100's of thousands of Australian lives" and put an end to the war? You bet they would!

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

No they dont. Not from me anyway. As i said in an earlier post. All governments have done bad things. Jesus Christ.

AFBrat77

Also, are we going to even mention some of the disturbing **** you've done in the field of Eugenics in the past century? I dont wanna go down that road but if you think the USA is the ethical shining light in the world you are mistaken. I'm done.

Curious to know what country you are from.

Just to let you know, Germany, Canada, Australia, Britain, Switzerland, and others were big into Eugenics, so once again, if you are from those countries, please quit being a hypocrite.

Oh my god. How am i the hypocrit?

I clearly said in every post that EVERY nation has done horrible things. He was the one denying American has done nothing wrong/other nations are worse etc etc. Jesus H Christ, would be nice if people actually read things before having a go. I'm conversing in circles i cant keep it up.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Also, are we going to even mention some of the disturbing **** you've done in the field of Eugenics in the past century? I dont wanna go down that road but if you think the USA is the ethical shining light in the world you are mistaken. I'm done.

Ilovegames1992

Curious to know what country you are from.

Just to let you know, Germany, Canada, Australia, Britain, Switzerland, and others were big into Eugenics, so once again, if you are from those countries, please quit being a hypocrite.

Oh my god. How am i the hypocrit?

I clearly said in every post that EVERY nation has done horrible things. He was the one denying American has done nothing wrong/other nations are worse etc etc. Jesus H Christ, would be nice if people actually read things before having a go. I'm conversing in circles i cant keep it up.

Ok man, my apologies then. I will withdraw my post.

I missed that you were the person that said "like every country does"

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] ...damn you ps3fanboy! you will be my first victim when war comes. mark gormley cant protect you all the time. [QUOTE="Pirate700"]Vietnam doesn't count as it's not a traditional war where the goal is to just obliterate them.

pretty sure canada would join the european side....as for mexico i dunno, maybe it will be all against usa usa is way more warhappy so they got the advantage but i think the rest of the countries are getting sick of it, if it means less wars to put usa down then why not... bahmetalkitten

Canada would be crushed right away, but your statements in general come off pretty naive anyway.

...and besides you didn't even read what the TC said.

Do you think the world would be more stable without the U.S.? Think again.

Also, who do you think the first country Japan comes to for aid after the earthquake. That's right, the U.S. How much we help in the world is way overlooked.

I don't mind Europe or Europeans at all. I actually love Europe. I DO however mind my country getting stereotyped and ridiculed by Europeans on a regular basis. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying ALL Europeans hate on America... but the amount of blind hatred for us out there is just astounding. I can't even log onto the computer these days without coming across some kind of insulting comments about America by Europeans. It's constant. And these are usually the same people that call Americans ignorant or unaccepting. See the hypocrisy there? Most of these people have never even been to America to begin with and yet they insult us as if they live here and have had to put up with us on a daily basis. Seriously, it seems like nobody gives America credit for anything positive we do anymore. We're no different than people in any other country, yet all we get is insulted everywhere we turn. It's really just getting old. But you know what, I can't really stop anyone from hating us, can I? It's going to happen no matter what. So if you must hate us, then go ahead and hate us. When it comes down to it though, the U.S. and most of Europe aren't enemies, so insulting one another is pointless.Messiahbolical-

Submitted once again: I refer you guys to the best post on the entire thread.

My sentiments exactly. Emphasis on blind hatred. When I came to OT forums I never expected to see this kind of unwarranted hatred. It's dissapointing and hopefully non-representative, I'd hate to think Europeans and Canadians were such nasty, close-minded people.

I'm willing to bet the aid that President Obama gives the Japanese towards their earthquake crisis, will be spun around to make it look like America is the bad guys again :roll:

[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i am part native american what do you me whiped out? *looks at picture of dad* WTF! he is fading away, and so am i!

Ilovegames1992

So when it comes to destroying a people Americans will not refer to themselves as an American rather their "old countries" yet when it comes to apparently winning WW 2 all by yourselves you refer to yourselves Americans. So you only have a cultural identity when you do good things. Awesome.

In terms of total firepower, Europe would win here, but America by itself has by far superior power projection than the whole of Europe and Russia.

[QUOTE="sonofsmeagle"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

AFBrat77

Did you see the "like every country has" part? How about Australians and the aborigines?

People who criticize the U.S. need to take a long look at their own country and stop being hypocrites.

Once again I say, most countries in the U.S. shoes would have done the same thing, certainly Britain would have. So you guys need to let it go.

It was WAR and we saved alot of American lives by doing it, whether you like it or not, that was the important thing to us.

I did see that part thanks and i agreed with the statement, I never said in any of my posts that Australians never did anything bad, but Australia wasnt even a country when most of the damage was done to the aborigines just like people say that it wasnt america that wiped out the Indians but rather the British,French and Spanish,

So dont call me a hypocrite thx, i stand at the point that nuking civilians was disgusting and shouldnt have been done,

Japan was finished at the time of nuking them, the Allied navy could have easily blockaded Japan and bombed all their military installations and make them surrender if they werent going to surrender already.

[QUOTE="metalkitten"]pretty sure canada would join the european side....as for mexico i dunno, maybe it will be all against usa usa is way more warhappy so they got the advantage but i think the rest of the countries are getting sick of it, if it means less wars to put usa down then why not... bahAFBrat77

Canada would be crushed right away, but your statements in general come off pretty naive anyway.

...and besides you didn't even read what the TC said.

Do you think the world would be more stable without the U.S.? Think again.

Also, who do you think the first country Japan comes to for aid after the earthquake. That's right, the U.S. How much we help in the world is way overlooked.

well my best friend is canadian, so i know some canadians, none who like usa though, so yeah based on those i know they would rather fighting on the european side (not to mention symbolically they got the uk queen?? she's atleast on their money)

many countries offered help to japan , i seen nowhere that usa was the first, i have seen reports of usa promising to send flights to help cool down the reactors but then they said that usa just said it and never did it?!?!

to make the world stable has to do with alot of stuff

i think usa should stop acting as its the worlds leader - in fact u should probably spilt up into different countries, i know some like alaska dont wanna be apart of usa

usa is picking wars everywhere, they should think about nature and polution more

Submitted once again: I refer you guys to the best post on the entire thread.

My sentiments exactly. Emphasis on blind hatred. When I came to OT forums I never expected to see this kind of unwarranted hatred. It's dissapointing and hopefully non-representative, I'd hate to think Europeans and Canadians were such nasty, close-minded people.

I'm willing to bet the aid that President Obama gives the Japanese towards their earthquake crisis, will be spun around to make it look like America is the bad guys again :roll:

AFBrat77

San Diego's relief organizations on their way to help aid Japan

But we're such an evil country, right? We only care about ourselves. :roll: We were the largest aid in the world to help Haiti after their earthquake too and do we get any credit for that? Hell no. Just a few of the many times we've gone out of our way to help other countries we didn't necessarily NEED to help and didn't get anything in return.

You know what bro? Screw the haters. Like they always say, "Haters gonna hate". And who do people usually love to hate on? The best of the best. So from now on, whenever someone hates on America I'm just going to take it as a compliment that we're the best. If you don't think we're the best, then that's fine but AT LEAST give us some credit and stop hating on us blindly.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

Submitted once again: I refer you guys to the best post on the entire thread.

My sentiments exactly. Emphasis on blind hatred. When I came to OT forums I never expected to see this kind of unwarranted hatred. It's dissapointing and hopefully non-representative, I'd hate to think Europeans and Canadians were such nasty, close-minded people.

I'm willing to bet the aid that President Obama gives the Japanese towards their earthquake crisis, will be spun around to make it look like America is the bad guys again :roll:

Messiahbolical-

San Diego's relief organizations on their way to help aid Japan

But we're such an evil country, right? We only care about ourselves. :roll: We were the largest aid in the world to help Haiti after their earthquake too and do we get any credit for that? Hell no. Just a few of the many times we've gone out of our way to help other countries we didn't necessarily NEED to help and didn't get anything in return.

You know what bro? Screw the haters. Like they always say, "Haters gonna hate". And who do people usually love to hate on? The best of the best. So from now on, whenever someone hates on America I'm just going to take it as a compliment that we're the best. If you don't think we're the best, then that's fine but AT LEAST give us some credit and stop hating on us blindly.

They like to turn a blind eye to all that, and instead turn it into blind hatred towards Americans. All it does is make many Europeans and other countries look like hypocritical scum rather then the fair, open-minded people I thought they were.

And if the person a couple posts up is American (metalkitten) they should be ashamed of themselves. Canadians would side with Americans, like it or not, and Alaska has no plans or interest in seceding from the U.S.

They like to turn a blind eye to all that, and instead turn it into blind hatred towards Americans. All it does is make many Europeans and other countries look like hypocritical scum rather then the fair, open-minded people I thought they were.

And if the guy a couple posts up is American he should be ashamed of himself. Canadians would side with Americans, like it or not, and Alaska has no plans to secede from the U.S.

AFBrat77

Haha without chemical nor nuclear weapons, I don't think either side could successfully invade the other. Whichever side, the invaders would just get obliterated. Also I doubt the US could keep their itchy trigger fingers away from the nuclear and chemical weapons for long.

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

They like to turn a blind eye to all that, and instead turn it into blind hatred towards Americans. All it does is make many Europeans and other countries look like hypocritical scum rather then the fair, open-minded people I thought they were.

And if the guy a couple posts up is American he should be ashamed of himself. Canadians would side with Americans, like it or not, and Alaska has no plans to secede from the U.S.

Messiahbolical-

No, not at all, and by the way my good man, thanks for your posts, they are right on target. Like I said, one of those you wrote is EXACTLY how I feel, best post on this entire thread.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

They like to turn a blind eye to all that, and instead turn it into blind hatred towards Americans. All it does is make many Europeans and other countries look like hypocritical scum rather then the fair, open-minded people I thought they were.

And if the guy a couple posts up is American he should be ashamed of himself. Canadians would side with Americans, like it or not, and Alaska has no plans to secede from the U.S.

AFBrat77

No, not at all, and by the way my good man, thanks for your posts, they are right on target. Like I said, one of those you wrote is EXACTLY how I feel, best post on this entire thread.

if we r being hypthetical and saying that no matter what the US,CANADA ,and mexico would be on the same team then they would win. much easier to protect north america. u have to also recall that the US has alliances with japan,south korea, isreal to name a few. so they could actually pull off a attack on all sides. they can invade europe through italy like they did in ww2 , and costal europeon nations would be shelled to submission by the huge usa navy and bombed by the airforce . either way u slice it there is a higher chance of north american troops lanidn on europe then vice versa

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] I don't know much about Hiroshima, but Nagasaki was an Imperial Japanese Navy town... correct? The fact is, whether justified or not, civilians were killed but it was better off for both sides in the greater schemes of things. I'm not saying it's okay to kill civilians, but do you honestly think that if America didn't devastate Japan by any means necessary that Japan wouldn't have just done the same thing? Both countries were desperate to strike huge blows. Who's to say that Japan wouldn't have nuked the US if they had the chance? I mean... I saw a special on these bombs that floated on balloons across the ocean to land in American cities. LMFAO. Couldn't it be any more obvious how desperate they were to get a strike in on our homeland?MgamerBD

Actually some revisionist historians believe that Japan were nearing surrender before you devastated Hiroshima. Just take the blinders off and admit your government did a disgusting thing. Like every country has. Also, what about internment camps back in the war? America had plenty. Jeez.

Europe. But this war would be pretty damn brutal.