http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_France I personally think that the culture is in danger. Already 10% of France is Muslim. The Netherlands and Britain are following the same trend thanks to "multi-culturalism". It's a shame because I wanted to start a new life in France (I'm a Quebecer). What do you guys think about this issue?
I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well. Just my two cents.
I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well. Just my two cents.mattbbpl
Yes but you see when Muslims innigrate into these countries, they demand Shariah law (look it up). They don't care about the original culture unfortunately.
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well. Just my two cents.ObeseBanana
Yes but you see when Muslims innigrate into these countries, they demand Shariah law (look it up). They don't care about the original culture unfortunately. You have to say when (most) Muslims.. then it's not racist. My tip for avoiding the racist criers : D
[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well.
Just my two cents.SolidSnake35
Yes but you see when Muslims innigrate into these countries, they demand Shariah law (look it up). They don't care about the original culture unfortunately. You have to say when (most) Muslims.. then it's not racist. My tip for avoiding the racist criers : D
[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well.
Just my two cents.ObeseBanana
Yes but you see when Muslims innigrate into these countries, they demand Shariah law (look it up). They don't care about the original culture unfortunately. I'm aware of Shariah law, and their cries for it should be ignored. Government law should not be based on any religion, and any Muslims moving to a region need to deal with the fact they won't be dictating the law before they move there.
In short, they need to respect the culture of those around them as well. If they can't do that, then they can kindly leave somewhere else that suits them better.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Yes but you see when Muslims innigrate into these countries, they demand Shariah law (look it up). They don't care about the original culture unfortunately.spacedog1973
You have to say when (most) Muslims.. then it's not racist. My tip for avoiding the racist criers : D
Its actually better not to generalise at all.
It's not generalising when you say most. It's factual. I have respect for individuals.. that's enough.
Oh no, there are people you don't agree with in your country! What oh what has this once-gorgeous world come to? Why, they'll be shipping their books into your country next!
[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"]Does it matter? This is like asking how I feel about Christian people who live in Beverly Hills.flash_drive
But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. ....And? What are you trying to say? Islam is replacing that culture with theirs. I won't be able to enjoy champagne in very long if this keeps up, that's what I'm saying.
[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"]Does it matter? This is like asking how I feel about Christian people who live in Beverly Hills.Theokhoth
But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. So did Islam, unless Turkey isn't a part of Europe anymore. Turkey belongs in my sunday dinner and nowhere else.
[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. ObeseBanana
....And? What are you trying to say? Islam is replacing that culture with theirs. I won't be able to enjoy champagne in very long if this keeps up, that's what I'm saying. Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an.
[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"] ....And? What are you trying to say? Islam is replacing that culture with theirs. I won't be able to enjoy champagne in very long if this keeps up, that's what I'm saying. Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an. Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture.
[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Islam is replacing that culture with theirs. I won't be able to enjoy champagne in very long if this keeps up, that's what I'm saying.ObeseBanana
Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an. Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"] Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an. Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened. Wasn't it only in the south?
[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Islam is replacing that culture with theirs. I won't be able to enjoy champagne in very long if this keeps up, that's what I'm saying.ObeseBanana
Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an. Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. I don't think that will ever happen, and I am a little offended, because you lack tolerance of other religions. America is built up from many religions, and over here most of us can tolerate each others religion. I am sad to hear that you aren't a fan of change.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"] Not sure if serious. Do you hate Muslims culture or something? Its not like they will bust in your house, and force you to read the Qur'an. Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened. I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. ObeseBanana
Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened. Wasn't it only in the south? No; in fact, that happened in Tours and Poitiers, which are in the north.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. SolidSnake35
Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened. I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them. 99% of Turkey is Muslim; I don't see anyone complaining about them. . .
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened.Theokhoth
I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them. 99% of Turkey is Muslim; I don't see anyone complaining about them. . .
I don't know of many Turkish people moving here. If Turkey is a leading example of Muslim culture, though, perhaps the Muslims coming to Britain should go there instead.
Well they've already influenced it. There were a good number of Muslim scholars in the medieval period also they returned the Greek and Roman knowledge after the dark ages.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_France I personally think that the culture is in danger. Already 10% of France is Muslim. The Netherlands and Britain are following the same trend thanks to "multi-culturalism". It's a shame because I wanted to start a new life in France (I'm a Quebecer). What do you guys think about this issue?ObeseBanana
I'm not sure if France has proportional representation and if it doesn't then they have even less representation. Even so, there is no way that that 10% wants sharia laws, most likely a vocal minority. Just ignore them, I don't see any problem.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Hate is a strong word. I pretty much don't want French culture to be replaced with Muslim culture. SolidSnake35
Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened. I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them. That's funny. I thought when one traveled or moved to another country,, packing your culture in your bags is mandatory. I dont' see why we should then except Muslims to be any different, as all groups of people do this. EVEN when they come to the United States they willingly segregate themselves into culturally specific neighborhoods.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Technically Muslim culture came first, then that whole "Battle of Tours" thing happened.EMOEVOLUTION
I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them. That's funny. I thought when one traveled or moved to another country,, packing your culture in your bags is mandatory. I dont' see why we should then except Muslims to be any different, as all groups of people do this. EVEN when they come to the United States they willingly segregate themselves into culturally specific neighborhoods.
Why move if you like your own culture enough to bring it with you?
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them. Why move if you like your own culture enough to bring it with you? That's funny. I thought when one traveled or moved to another country,, packing your culture in your bags is mandatory. I dont' see why we should then except Muslims to be any different, as all groups of people do this. EVEN when they come to the United States they willingly segregate themselves into culturally specific neighborhoods. because culture is a human trait and not one tied to geographical features. :) I can't help it. I'm just too smart.
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] I could understand Muslim culture being replaced. I mean, many Muslims want out of their own countries, though it confuses me when they want to bring their culture with them.SolidSnake35
That's funny. I thought when one traveled or moved to another country,, packing your culture in your bags is mandatory. I dont' see why we should then except Muslims to be any different, as all groups of people do this. EVEN when they come to the United States they willingly segregate themselves into culturally specific neighborhoods.
Why move if you like your own culture enough to bring it with you?
Because your culture isn't quite the same as your country.
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] because culture is a human trait and not one tied to geographical features. :) I can't help it. I'm just too smart. Still doesn't explain why you'd want to move to a place with people of a different culture. You require others, also of your culture, to gain its benefits so why move where you won't have that.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] because culture is a human trait and not one tied to geographical features. :) I can't help it. I'm just too smart. Still doesn't explain why you'd want to move to a place with people of a different culture. You require others, also of your culture, to gain its benefits so why move where you won't have that. Because sometimes your country sucks.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] because culture is a human trait and not one tied to geographical features. :) I can't help it. I'm just too smart. Still doesn't explain why you'd want to move to a place with people of a different culture. You require others, also of your culture, to gain its benefits so why move where you won't have that. Because sometimes your country sucks. Do you support Islamic culture change or something?
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Because your culture isn't quite the same as your country. You mean we throw money out as opposed to stones? That would explain it, I suppose.
[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Still doesn't explain why you'd want to move to a place with people of a different culture. You require others, also of your culture, to gain its benefits so why move where you won't have that. Because sometimes your country sucks. Do you support Islamic culture change or something? Change is a part of culture. If that change happens to be Islamic, so be it. I hate this xenophobic idea that Muslims should GTFO because their culture isn't good enough.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Because sometimes your country sucks. There are many less sucking countries between there and here. Cool. They don't have to go to any of them.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Because sometimes your country sucks. Do you support Islamic culture change or something? Change is a part of culture. If that change happens to be Islamic, so be it. I hate this xenophobic idea that Muslims should GTFO because their culture isn't good enough. Obviously you don't know Islamic culture.
[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Do you support Islamic culture change or something? Change is a part of culture. If that change happens to be Islamic, so be it. I hate this xenophobic idea that Muslims should GTFO because their culture isn't good enough. Obviously you don't know Islamic culture. Obviously you don't understand the difference between a country and a culture. For an example of positive Islamic culture, again, Turkey.
[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Because sometimes your country sucks. There are many less sucking countries between there and here. Cool. They don't have to go to any of them. Because they know those countries wouldn't put up with them.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] There are many less sucking countries between there and here. Cool. They don't have to go to any of them. Because they know those countries wouldn't put up with them. Then clearly those countries don't suck less than their own countries. It's like kicking the Jews out of Poland and expecting them to go to Palestine.
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