What do you guys think about Islam in France?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] What. What I'm saying is that say French culture is taken over by Islam or let's say ALGERIAN culture. French culture involves wine, in Islam, alcohol is not allowed.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Then clearly those countries don't suck less than their own countries. It's like kicking the Jews out of Poland and expecting them to go to Palestine.SolidSnake35

Have you considered that maybe those areas are impoverished, and that's the problem?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]itt: deliberately missing the point. Large proportions of Muslims want Sharia law introduced. If they were happy to keep their irrational rules to themselves no one would have a problem.BAHAHAHAHAHA

French? Eww.

France has hot babes.

If Islam in France has hot French babes, I approve.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Then clearly those countries don't suck less than their own countries. It's like kicking the Jews out of Poland and expecting them to go to Palestine.SolidSnake35

It's called slums. Every place has them, with or without Muslims. Most of those people that live in slums are hardworking, nice people who are happy that they atleast have a job somewhere when places back home (Pakistan for example) are corrupt and horrible.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Then clearly those countries don't suck less than their own countries. It's like kicking the Jews out of Poland and expecting them to go to Palestine.SolidSnake35

Sounds great. I'm British and love jewellery and chicken, pizza and kebabs (who doesn't???) and why should I pay over the odds for my tastes?:)

On a serious note, the businesses wouldn't be so common if there weren't a need from the populace of the area. Sounds fine to me. What point os there being shops that no-opne wants to have there.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]I don't know precisely, but given that Sharia Law is considered by Muslims to be God's Law, I think we can safely say that an awful lot of Muslims are going to be quite fond of the idea of legally enshrining the revealed law of Allah, wouldn't you agree? I can't find figures for France, but in the UK 40% want sharia law (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html) and there's no reason to think that French Muslims are much less radical.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] The Muslims keep flooding France thanks to "Oh my God we love multi-culturalism"ObeseBanana

Sounds great. I'm British and love jewellery and chicken, pizza and kebabs (who doesn't???) and why should I pay over the odds for my tastes?:)

On a serious note, the businesses wouldn't be so common if there weren't a need from the populace of the area. Sounds fine to me. What point os there being shops that no-opne wants to have there.spacedog1973

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]I don't know precisely, but given that Sharia Law is considered by Muslims to be God's Law, I think we can safely say that an awful lot of Muslims are going to be quite fond of the idea of legally enshrining the revealed law of Allah, wouldn't you agree? I can't find figures for France, but in the UK 40% want sharia law (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html) and there's no reason to think that French Muslims are much less radical.ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]Sounds great. I'm British and love jewellery and chicken, pizza and kebabs (who doesn't???) and why should I pay over the odds for my tastes?:)

On a serious note, the businesses wouldn't be so common if there weren't a need from the populace of the area. Sounds fine to me. What point os there being shops that no-opne wants to have there.SolidSnake35

Britain is a country, not a bloody museum! Everything becomes old in time. There are tacky shops everywhere you go where there are tacky people. And that's everywhere in this country. If they rot, then they rot, why should we always have to rebuild old buildings of no significance other than their age.

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[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]Sounds great. I'm British and love jewellery and chicken, pizza and kebabs (who doesn't???) and why should I pay over the odds for my tastes?:)

On a serious note, the businesses wouldn't be so common if there weren't a need from the populace of the area. Sounds fine to me. What point os there being shops that no-opne wants to have there.spacedog1973

Britain is a country, not a bloody museum! Everything becomes old in time. There are tacky shops everywhere you go where there are tacky people. And that's everywhere in this country. If they rot, then they rot, why should we always have to rebuild old buildings of no significance other than their age.

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Sharia Law is not God's Law according to all Muslims. :| So you're just assuming, applying generalizations to whole groups of people based on those assumptions, and all of this based on a false preconception of those people's beliefs. :lol:Theokhoth

In 2002, the Indonesian Government gave Aceh province the right to introduce Islamic sharia, albeit only to Muslim residents. For example, the city of Palembang introduced jail and fines, for homosexual sex.[4] Under the law homosexuality is defined as an act of 'prostitution that violates the norms of common decency, religion, and legal norms as they apply to societal rule'.[5] The following acts are defined as acts of prostitution homosexual sex, lesbians, sodomy, sexual harassment, and other pornographic acts.[6] Fifty two regions have since enacted sharia law from the Koran which criminalizes homosexuality.[7]In Jakarta lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgendered, and transsexual are legally labeled as cacat or mentally handicapped and are therefore not protected under the law.[8] This is the irony that LGBT people fall outside the law and are subject to it.[9] Indonesia allowed sexual relations between persons of the same sex in 1993.[10] Indonesia has higher age of consent provisions for same sex relations than for heterosexual relations (17 for heterosexuals and 18 for homosexual).[11]

Not so liberal after all?

Britain is a country, not a bloody museum! Everything becomes old in time. There are tacky shops everywhere you go where there are tacky people. And that's everywhere in this country. If they rot, then they rot, why should we always have to rebuild old buildings of no significance other than their age.spacedog1973

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] And since you have multi-culturalism to thank for France being such a great and prosperous country, I don't see why not. Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Perhaps you should have done your homework beforehand? Sharia Law is a core concept of Islam and is considered by all Muslims to be the law of God as revealed in the Quran. They certainly differ over what exactly Sharia Law is, yes - and they certainly differ as to whether that law should be forced in as the official law of all countries, yes - but that Sharia Law is God's Law is universal. Shame on you. Don't make out that I'm the ignorant one here.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]Britain is a country, not a bloody museum! Everything becomes old in time. There are tacky shops everywhere you go where there are tacky people. And that's everywhere in this country. If they rot, then they rot, why should we always have to rebuild old buildings of no significance other than their age.SolidSnake35

Because YOU want to live in a museum, we all should? We preserve building of historical interest and thats it thank god. And we don't construct buildings like that for good reason. Anyone who has to live in an un-updated building will tell you. Everything old isn't necessarily good.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] If Sharia differs between Muslims, then why are you making it out that it's always bad and radical and an example of the evilness of Muslims? You know what country has Sharia Law? Indonesia. Where homosexuality is legal, among other things. Where there are more Muslims than anywhere else in the world. Where they have a Republic.Theokhoth

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[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] I don't hate multi-culturalism, without it I wouldn't even be alive. But my Portuguese dad didn't come into Quebec demanding circumsitions for everybody.ObeseBanana

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[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]itt picking one of the few countries with Sharia Law that aren't absolute hellholes for human rights. /BAHAHAHAHAHA

There are more mosques in France then chrches, they are obviously trying to change thing @TheoktothObeseBanana

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]There are more mosques in France then chrches, they are obviously trying to change thing @TheoktothTheokhoth

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] ITT Ignoring the point. Sharia Law does not necessarily equal hellhole for human rights, as you seem to believe.

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'There have been several cases of discrimination at the workplace, where LGBT employees have been fired because of their sexual orientation. Provisions of the Turkish Criminal Code on 'public exhibitionism' and 'offences against public morality' are sometimes used to discriminate against LGBT people. The Law on Misdemeanours is often used to impose fines against transgender persons.'

Also, from the Guardian article: "They have problems with the misogynistic hadith, the ones against women. They may delete some from the collection, declaring them not authentic. That would be a very bold step. Or they may just add footnotes, saying they should be understood from a different historical context." Telling quote, no? That's what happens when Sharia and good, englightened values meet: they conflict. You will find no liberal interpretation of sharia because there is no such thing. The very idea is an absurdity.

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]There are more mosques in France then chrches, they are obviously trying to change thing @TheoktothTheokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]There are more mosques in France then chrches, they are obviously trying to change thing @TheoktothObeseBanana

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] There are more McDonald's in America than churches; therefore McDonald's is trying to overthrow Christian culture.Theokhoth

I think the Burger King plotting a bunch of his bases around is a bit suspicious though. Monarchs hate us for our freedoms after all.

I think if you colonize a territory that is almost entirely Muslim for over 130 years, you shouldn't be surprised if a buttload of Muslim immigrants show up in your country.