What do you guys think about Islam in France?

Thankfully the French government actually listens to its people for the most part and Muslims are forced to adapt to French culture when they arrive in France. They must speak French if they already don't, and they must act in a secular manner in all public places such as schools and universities. The same goes for all religions. These policies have resulted in some rough patches (2005 riots) but at least France has a decent chance at retaining the culture that made it into a world power and not adopting the culture that has forced many countries to remain stuck in the thrid world.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Muslim words: "Dans 50 ans ou moins, l'Europe deviendra en fait un continent Musulman, Allahu Ackbar!" In less than 50 years Europe will become a Muslim continent. This is their goal, I'm not liking it.ObeseBanana

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] I demand a source (Speaker, Location, and Date) for the quote and the context that quote was spoken.MattUD1

Thankfully the French government actually listens to its people for the most part and Muslims are forced to adapt to French culture when they arrive in France. They must speak French if they already don't, and they must act in a secular manner in all public places such as schools and universities. The same goes for all religions. These policies have resulted in some rough patches (2005 riots) but at least France has a decent chance at retaining the culture that made it into a world power and not adopting the culture that has forced many countries to remain stuck in the thrid world.

espoac

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[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Can't find it, that desgtroys my point, but I have found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbZ3X6yl240 1:08, the rise of a Muslim reign is their objective.ObeseBanana

it doesn't exactly help that those countries have terrible birthrates too. The government gives them cradle to grave benefits. They become so reliant on the government for everything that they are not taught to develop personal responsibility. And eventually, they realize that they are not self reliant enough to commit to raising a child. I don't know a single person from Europe that wants kids. They always tell me things like "i don't have room in my life for a child. There's no way i could ever commit myself to it". The result is birthrates so bad that in about 4 or 5 generations from now, there won't be anymore Italians, Belgians, or Greeks left. Spain's birthrate is so bad now that they're pretty much reached the point of inevitable extinction. Unless of course every family has like 8 children each. which is obviously not going to happen.

Meanwhile, muslims who live there are breeding like rabbits. It's insane how many children some of them have. Europe will eventually become an Islamic state so enjoy European culture while it lasts.

And this is why I love America. Everyone is secretly a racist but no one cares anymore because they're worried about their next paycheck. :)

Kidding aside, France and most European countries have major problems because of a lack of assimilation. America on the other hand forces it because it encourages individual choice and there's the whole oppurtunity thing in America. In Europe, while there's so much culture, I don't think they follow the same philosophy we do. I think. Could be wrong.

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="MattUD1"] The rise of a Muslim reign is whose objective? The radical element of the Muslim immigrants or all of the Muslim immigrants?

MattUD1

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Thankfully the French government actually listens to its people for the most part and Muslims are forced to adapt to French culture when they arrive in France. They must speak French if they already don't, and they must act in a secular manner in all public places such as schools and universities. The same goes for all religions. These policies have resulted in some rough patches (2005 riots) but at least France has a decent chance at retaining the culture that made it into a world power and not adopting the culture that has forced many countries to remain stuck in the thrid world.

ObeseBanana

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[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] The general Muslims in the report... or I don't understand your question, rephrase :)ObeseBanana

my opiono on islam in general is ...it's bull....

The same thing I think about Nazi Germany in France.

[QUOTE="spacedog1973"]Sounds great. I'm British and love jewellery and chicken, pizza and kebabs (who doesn't???) and why should I pay over the odds for my tastes?:)

On a serious note, the businesses wouldn't be so common if there weren't a need from the populace of the area. Sounds fine to me. What point os there being shops that no-opne wants to have there.SolidSnake35

Perhaps you should be more angry at your country for having poor historical building laws, and not the people who legally buy them?

Really, this whole "Muslims are ruining my great country" thing confuses me. If your country can have quick sweeping theocratic law put on it by a minority of people (probably less than 10% of the population of the country), then it wasn't so great.

I don't believe that can happen to France or the UK, however.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. SolidSnake35

I believe islam is like cancer look how it grew in middle east by force and fear look what they did to once great countries like egypt and Iran

I believe islam is like cancer look how it grew in middle east by force and fear look what they did to once great countries like egypt and Iran

Iranian_Guy

They are the broader group.ObeseBanana

France is starting to take measures to protect and preserve their culture. Not just in relation to islam, but in relation to many things. English has invaded their language so they've taken steps on that, too. It would be a shame to see france lose its cultural heritage.

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I believe islam is like cancer look how it grew in middle east by force and fear look what they did to once great countries like egypt and Iran

MattUD1

I laughedat "culture in danger". That's all I have to say.

I laughedat "culture in danger". That's all I have to say.

bruinfan617

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I think too much emphasis is put on the maintenance of a culture in a designated location. People should feel free to maintain their culture if they wish, but respect the cultures of others as well.

Just my two cents.ObeseBanana

[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. ObeseBanana

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I laughedat "culture in danger". That's all I have to say.

ObeseBanana

Because it's sensationalist and untrue.

lol...religion is like a virus...

if anyone gets infected, stay the f away from ma country.....from canada with love

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"] I don't hate multi-culturalism, without it I wouldn't even be alive. But my Portuguese dad didn't come into Quebec demanding circumsitions for everybody.BAHAHAHAHAHA

There are more mosques in France then chrches, they are obviously trying to change thing @TheoktothObeseBanana

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"][QUOTE="flash_drive"]Does it matter? This is like asking how I feel about Christian people who live in Beverly Hills.flash_drive

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] Do you support Islamic culture change or something?BMD004

Who cares what they want?

It's obvious not all Muslims want that. And it's obvious that a 3% or so of a population is gonna have a hard time getting a country turned into a theocracy. Unless you believe Muslims have magical mind control powers.

[QUOTE="flash_drive"][QUOTE="ObeseBanana"] But Christianity formed the culture of Europe. GrabTheYayo

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Change is a part of culture. If that change happens to be Islamic, so be it. I hate this xenophobic idea that Muslims should GTFO because their culture isn't good enough.Pixel-Pirate

Who cares what they want?

It's obvious not all Muslims want that. And it's obvious that a 3% or so of a population is gonna have a hard time getting a country turned into a theocracy. Unless you believe Muslims have magical mind control powers.

[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]itt: deliberately missing the point. Large proportions of Muslims want Sharia law introduced. If they were happy to keep their irrational rules to themselves no one would have a problem.BAHAHAHAHAHA

So...like 4% of 64 million or so people want something that no one else supports and you think they'll get it?

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[QUOTE="BMD004"] That's not really the point. The point is that they make themselves home in another country with their own culture, and want to wash out that culture and have their own special laws. I don't know how it is in England and France, but if that is the case then they have no respect for those countries and their culture. It's like ummmm.... excuse me Muslim people... but you moved here to our country. You can respect our laws and culture or go back to where you came from. BMD004

Who cares what they want?

It's obvious not all Muslims want that. And it's obvious that a 3% or so of a population is gonna have a hard time getting a country turned into a theocracy. Unless you believe Muslims have magical mind control powers.

Many cultures do this. There are population of hispanics who move to the US and demand everyone know or learn spanish to accomodate them. These people are usually a minority within a minority.

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Where the hell did you get that from?Pixel-Pirate

So...like 4% of 64 million or so people want something that no one else supports and you think they'll get it?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.htmlBAHAHAHAHAHA

So...like 4% of 64 million or so people want something that no one else supports and you think they'll get it?

I believe earlier you said ten percent of the population was muslim and that 40% of that ten percent want theocratic law. Thats where I got 4% from.

So yes. 4%. Or somewhere around there. Unless 100% of the UK is Muslim.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

Who cares what they want?

It's obvious not all Muslims want that. And it's obvious that a 3% or so of a population is gonna have a hard time getting a country turned into a theocracy. Unless you believe Muslims have magical mind control powers.

Pixel-Pirate

Many cultures do this. There are population of hispanics who move to the US and demand everyone know or learn spanish to accomodate them. These people are usually a minority within a minority.