Whats your take on "screaming" music?

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="Gibsonsg527"]

I like "screaming" or "death growls" if its done right like with Opeth.

Gibsonsg527

And I don't hate them. It's just that Blackwater Park is the only CD I can tolerate of Opeth for more than 15 mins or so at a time before getting bored, and that's only because that CD has the most memorable songs they've ever wrote IMO.

I don't mind it actually.

[QUOTE="Gibsonsg527"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] Opeth is boring... zzzZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZzzz. Sure, they're talented musicians. But I listen to metal for aggression and adrenaline, not to be put to sleep. I hardly even consider Opeth metal. They're just progressive music with the occasional death metal influenced parts. They can't really be specifically classified into the metal genre, since their range of influences reaches far beyond just metal. They're straight up prog, about as "prog" as a band can get.

And I don't hate them. It's just that Blackwater Park is the only CD I can tolerate of Opeth for more than 15 mins or so at a time before getting bored, and that's only because that CD has the most memorable songs they've ever wrote IMO.

Messiahbolical-

Soothing in a way. Actually, I'll go and listen to some now.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Is this a joke? I hope so.

dream431ca

LOL. Now I know your joking.

i just recently attempted to listen to asking alexandria or wtf and wanted to put a bullet in my head,but i like a few bands that do scream and do it good

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

What do you mean by "screaming"?

dream431ca

I think he means something like this: (I love this song BTW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMNuKzINDw

making someone listen to death metal/screamo is a form of torture

im not even kidding, kill me before making me listen to that crap

Metal doesn't always haveto be agressive and fast.Gibsonsg527

Yous seem to be the only one has the opinion of not making Doom Metal.......Metal. One of the biggest and most influential Metal bands Black Sabbath are doom Metal. But whatever I like most types of metal. From the fast and aggressive Thrash Metal to the slow and drowning Stoner Metal.Gibsonsg527

In moderation, yes I like it.

There is good metal music, but the «screaming» pointless metal is terrible.

I listen to death metal, folk, black, thrash metal (aomng several others) on a daily basis. So yeah, I love the stuff. And I thought people would have known better by now that your not necessarily meant to understand guttural vocals...

I like it

Can't standing screaming music, absolute garbage

If I go yell out my window that's considered music then? it never ceases to amaze me how low the standards have dropped

screaming.. noimaps3fanboy

You mean zero melody and your talent comment is pretty ignorant.

I like music with harsh vocals. Just 'screaming' though? Not a big fan of most bands where the vocalist only hits those high pitches.

Ugh... yeah they can shread instruments but in terms vocal than mehhh they can hire me or a hobo off the street to do the same. So no, unless Im feeling very emo that day.

Depends what genre your listening too.

the genre that i listen to acutally has meaning and heart unlike a bunch of bands today.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]screaming.. noGuppy507

[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]screaming.. noimaps3fanboy

I get why people don't like the music, I can understand it completely. But for me I love it. Two bands I am really into right now are.

Sylosis - Teras

Darkest hour - low

Sorry I couldn't link glitchspot wouldn't let me.

It depends on the melody, music, and even whether the singer/screamer[?] is intelligible...

Can't standing screaming music, absolute garbage If I go yell out my window that's considered music then? it never ceases to amaze me how low the standards have droppedTheNewEraIcon

[QUOTE="TheNewEraIcon"]Can't standing screaming music, absolute garbage If I go yell out my window that's considered music then? it never ceases to amaze me how low the standards have droppedfoxhound_fox

[QUOTE="TheNewEraIcon"]Can't standing screaming music, absolute garbage If I go yell out my window that's considered music then? it never ceases to amaze me how low the standards have droppedfoxhound_fox

While describing stuff they have actually listened to rather that just one bad song that supposedly represents an entire genre

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="TheNewEraIcon"]Can't standing screaming music, absolute garbage If I go yell out my window that's considered music then? it never ceases to amaze me how low the standards have droppedfreek666

Metalhead snobs may be worse than hipsters in that regard

I can understand why others will say that so and so is "just noise", but to say that things like pop music and hip hop "requires no talent" is so wrong.freek666

In other words... no, no one in modern pop or hip-hop has a fraction of the talent of a metal band from any era.

[QUOTE="freek666"]I can understand why others will say that so and so is "just noise", but to say that things like pop music and hip hop "requires no talent" is so wrong.OrkHammer007

In other words... no, no one in modern pop or hip-hop has a fraction of the talent of a metal band from any era.

Just because a band plays instruments doesn't mean they're any good (aka Nickelback). You can "dare" any non-metal act to sound better, but in the end its all biased opinion...

Metalheads are by far the worst group of musical fans.freek666

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="freek666"]I can understand why others will say that so and so is "just noise", but to say that things like pop music and hip hop "requires no talent" is so wrong.Wolf-Man2006

In other words... no, no one in modern pop or hip-hop has a fraction of the talent of a metal band from any era.

Just because a band plays instruments doesn't mean they're any good (aka Nickelback). You can "dare" any non-metal act to sound better, but in the end its all biased opinion...

Also, I didn't dare just any non-metal acts, I specifically called out the hip-hop and pop acts mentioned by the person I quoted. I know that not one of them could come up with anything more complex than "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" on a real instrument.

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]I f***ing DARE a pop or hip-hop act to do a song that sounds anything like this or this. I intentionally picked two instrumentals because both of those genres these days rely on vocals to get by; without someone singing, they're just repetitive electronic noise.

In other words... no, no one in modern pop or hip-hop has a fraction of the talent of a metal band from any era.

OrkHammer007

Just because a band plays instruments doesn't mean they're any good (aka Nickelback). You can "dare" any non-metal act to sound better, but in the end its all biased opinion...

Also, I didn't dare just any non-metal acts, I specifically called out the hip-hop and pop acts mentioned by the person I quoted. I know that not one of them could come up with anything more complex than "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" on a real instrument.

I didn't list Nickelback as metal; rather a band that knows how to play their instruments.. Regardless I stand by my statement that playing instruments doesn't make you automatically good. Seems like you only like groups that play actual instruments, am I correct?

I didn't list Nickelback as metal; rather a band that knows how to play their instruments...Wolf-Man2006

The post I quoted specifically called out metal bands.

Re-listen to those links. Both bands are metal bands. Both bands have REAL talent.

Hip-hop and pop acts have vocalists and... that's it. Even the lyrics are bad...

Lady Gaga's latest song: "I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge..."

...you must get the point by now.

None of that has anything (repeat: ANYTHING) to do with Nickelback. The only possible need for a Nickelback reference is as a strawman. Nickelback are not metal. Nickelback are not hip-hop or pop (popular maybe... though only God knows why).

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]I didn't list Nickelback as metal; rather a band that knows how to play their instruments...OrkHammer007

The post I quoted specifically called out metal bands.

Re-listen to those links. Both bands are metal bands. Both bands have REAL talent.

Hip-hop and pop acts have vocalists and... that's it. Even the lyrics are bad...

Lady Gaga's latest song: "I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge..."

...you must get the point by now.

None of that has anything (repeat: ANYTHING) to do with Nickelback. The only possible need for a Nickelback reference is as a strawman. Nickelback are not metal. Nickelback are not hip-hop or pop (popular maybe... though only God knows why).

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]I didn't list Nickelback as metal; rather a band that knows how to play their instruments...OrkHammer007

The post I quoted specifically called out metal bands.

Re-listen to those links. Both bands are metal bands. Both bands have REAL talent.

Hip-hop and pop acts have vocalists and... that's it. Even the lyrics are bad...

Lady Gaga's latest song: "I'm on the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge, the edge..."

...you must get the point by now.

None of that has anything (repeat: ANYTHING) to do with Nickelback. The only possible need for a Nickelback reference is as a strawman. Nickelback are not metal. Nickelback are not hip-hop or pop (popular maybe... though only God knows why).

Actually it does because you make a big deal about playing instruments being a lot better than most musicians on the top charts regardless if the actual music is good. Again I bring Nickelback up (even though they're about as metal as The Archies) because they do play their own instruments, which seems to be your point regarding musicians playing instruments. Bringing up Nickelback is relevant to your arugment because again, they play guitar and drums. If I wanted to use a metal band, I probably would have selected Bullet for My Valent (decent when instrumental, horrendous lyrics)

I'm a bit confused regarding whether you consider the music or lyrics better. Previously you were posting about the music and instruments being the most important factor and now you're posting about bad pop lyrics... Do you think the music is a lot better than lyrics in general?

[QUOTE="Gibsonsg527"]Metal doesn't always haveto be agressive and fast.foxhound_fox

Yous seem to be the only one has the opinion of not making Doom Metal.......Metal. One of the biggest and most influential Metal bands Black Sabbath are doom Metal. But whatever I like most types of metal. From the fast and aggressive Thrash Metal to the slow and drowning Stoner Metal.Gibsonsg527

Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB1NuL-8Dhc

or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW3tnXlYHmo&feature=related

Instant turn off.

It's really annoying and usually for kids.

It is something that pushes the boundaries of the human's ability to produce music with their bodies. I love it when it is well done, and produced by someone with musical talent. It really increases the expressiveness of really heavy, dark music, where melodic, "clean" vocals sound completely out of place (see: Metallica). Robb Flynn of Machine Head, Karl Sanders of Nile and Piotr Wiwczarek of Vader are my favourite vocalists.foxhound_fox

If you like Karl Sanders and you like Nile its well worth checking out Muhammed Sucimez's vocal work with necrophagist, or Fleshgod apocalyspe the violation's vocals are insanely well done and on top of that the bassists clean vocals are immensely well done and show how you can use clean in tech dm :P

Clean vocals is great in genre's like thrash they suit it well and still deeply rooted in older Hardcore especially crossover thrash.