Whats your take on "screaming" music?

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#251 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]Thrash metal is where its at. No screaming or "growling", but aggresive and melodic vocals to match the instensity of the music.Guppy507
My response.

My response: (Sorry, can't link it properly for some reason:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMNuKzINDw

EDIT: This is not thrash but still some damn good stuff with screaming.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]Thrash metal is where its at. No screaming or "growling", but aggresive and melodic vocals to match the instensity of the music.deathtarget04

My response.

Well since my speakers are kaput at the moment, i can't listen to it.

Well, my point was that if you're gonna limit yourself to thrash without screaming, you're gonna miss out on some f*cking great stuff.
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"][QUOTE="deathtarget04"]Thrash metal is where its at. No screaming or "growling", but aggresive and melodic vocals to match the instensity of the music.dream431ca

My response.

My response: (Sorry, can't link it properly for some reason:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMNuKzINDw

Not thrash, but I guess it works well enough. Moonsorrow is so good.
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#254 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="Guppy507"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]I am also a huge metal fan. One reason why is because metal is so varied spread across so many different styles of music. I don't look down on other forms of music. I love Michael Jackson and think he is still the best pop artist ever and will not be beaten for many years to come. I don't look down on other music, but I do look down on certain record labels and certain so called "artists" that treat music as a money machine rather than art. What is good and true about Metal music is most bands are not trying to get on the top ten charts or on the radio. They play it because they love it. Now of course with that in mind, metal has a huge spectrum, from the very dark part of the spectrum where bands talk about suffering, death, evil, etc.. to the other part of the spectrum where bands talk about love, God, hope, peace etc.. You also get bands (my favorite metal bands) that tell stories and take you on an adventure. Some bands talk about religion, others talk about Ancient Egypt and others even sing in forgotten languages. Some metal bands have amazing musical structures with flowing rhythms and bombastic melodies while other bands are utter garbage with their fruity loops drum samples going at 250 BPM and vocals that aren't that great.

Each genre of music can be creative but most mainstream music wants to stay the same and not stray from the norm so they can keep on pleasing the people that really don't give a crap about music as an art form but more as "party" music with easy to follow tempos and beats. I find this kind of music boring and devoid of any real feeling. But that's just my opinion.

dream431ca

That's fine, it's just that there are tons of metalheads that only listen to and appreciate metal, and just disregard all other forms of music (i.e. elitists), and that attitude is often projected on all metal fans. As much as people make fun of pop music, some of it takes a lot of talent to produce.

I myself only really listen to metal but that doesn't mean I don't respect the artists of other genres that put their blood sweat and tears into making an exceptional album (and those artists are really hard to find in this day and age. You gotta really did deep to find them). What I said before is that I really don't like "artistis" or labels that only make music to make a paycheck rather than music that opens your mind and makes you think about all sorts of things.

Yet you have nightwish and dragonforce in your sig? makes sense
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#255 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] My response.Guppy507

My response: (Sorry, can't link it properly for some reason:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMNuKzINDw

Not thrash, but I guess it works well enough. Moonsorrow is so good.

Ya. I Edited my post above about the thrash part. Moonsorrow is amazing!!

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#256 dream431ca
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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] That's fine, it's just that there are tons of metalheads that only listen to and appreciate metal, and just disregard all other forms of music (i.e. elitists), and that attitude is often projected on all metal fans. As much as people make fun of pop music, some of it takes a lot of talent to produce.

imaps3fanboy

I myself only really listen to metal but that doesn't mean I don't respect the artists of other genres that put their blood sweat and tears into making an exceptional album (and those artists are really hard to find in this day and age. You gotta really did deep to find them). What I said before is that I really don't like "artistis" or labels that only make music to make a paycheck rather than music that opens your mind and makes you think about all sorts of things.

Yet you have nightwish and dragonforce in your sig? makes sense

HA! I have to change my sig. Don't really listen to Dragonforce anymore but what's wrong with Nightwish?? I love them to death.

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[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="Guppy507"] That's fine, it's just that there are tons of metalheads that only listen to and appreciate metal, and just disregard all other forms of music (i.e. elitists), and that attitude is often projected on all metal fans. As much as people make fun of pop music, some of it takes a lot of talent to produce.

imaps3fanboy

I myself only really listen to metal but that doesn't mean I don't respect the artists of other genres that put their blood sweat and tears into making an exceptional album (and those artists are really hard to find in this day and age. You gotta really did deep to find them). What I said before is that I really don't like "artistis" or labels that only make music to make a paycheck rather than music that opens your mind and makes you think about all sorts of things.

Yet you have nightwish and dragonforce in your sig? makes sense

Hey woah woah woah hey woah. Nightwish is my jam. Or rather, they were like 4 years ago, BUT I STILL LIKE THEM DAMN IT.
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#258 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] Didn't you get the memo? The "cool" way of getting music these days is through a computer, where you can select a single song from an album to download and never have to even look at the disc or jewel case (or in even more retro-style, the dust jacket). Or stream it off this place called "You-Tube." It truly does amaze me how people just write off music they've never given a chance like they know everything about music.Wolf-Man2006

:( It's sad how the music industry iis.

I still by CD's. And since many of them aren't at my store I have to order online.

I really miss the days where you could just walk into a music shop and look at all the selections they have... There's nothing like owning a physical copy of an album over one you ordered online..

I miss that as well. Now you get the top 40 crap if you get anything. :(
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#259 dommeus
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I gather the thread title should be "Whats your take on "screaming" IN music, since you don't mention anything about the music itself.

I think some screams are bearable, some are good, some are bad, and some are unbearable.

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#260 sonic__323
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I like it.

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#262 Wanderer5
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I think it crap and one of the music genre I can't stand listening too.

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#264 imaps3fanboy
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As long as I can actually understand what the lyrics are then its fine.

Serioiusly, try listening to Rain By Trivium and attempt to comprehend what the hell he's singing.

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Duh.. trivium is ****
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So in other words, you know so much about metal you are automatically a god among men..... No need to get angry sir, its just opinion which you seem to have a hard time understanding because you know so much about music you won't even answer my simple question because you are just that smart and know a lot more than casual folk like me..... I can understand the requirements of being a metal elitist snob because after all, you meet all the requirements.. Congratulations, I hope you are a very happy individual. Good luck proving that METALZ is so much better than that poppy, hip-hop crap because everybody knows Adele and Lady Gaga can't tell the difference between a piano and those fake $10 keytars manufactured by Fisher Price because after all, you are making a difference in somebody's life.. Probably not mine because I actually like stuff beyond death metal

Also I used to be a metal elitist snob just like you, until I took an arrow in the knee :)

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Wow, you really stepped into this thread from the short bus, didn't you?

If you had actually read what I wrote instead of playing the straw man with Nickelback and BFMV, you would have known the answer. Good going.

I am far from a "metal elitist" or "metal snob." I never once claimed that metal was superior to other styIes of music; in fact, my collection contains a lot of cIassic rock, cIassical music, reggae, blues, etc. All I was pointing out to whatever-his-name is that, compared to a good metal band, pop and hip-hop aren't even close to as talented, due to their absolute reliance on vocals and a computer. I remember a time when all of singers had actual talented bands behind them, and bands with mutilple talented singers; now, all you need is a big pair of boobs, plastic surgery, and a willingness to Autotune.

So two people out of... how many lame pop acts are there now? ...can play an instrument. Whoop-de-f***ing-do.

Finally: I don't listen to death metal. Nice try.

Are you sure you didn't take that arrow in the skull? An MRI can diagnose your brain damage for you, and treatments aren't as invasive as they used to be. Good luck

OrkHammer is the guy people assume most metal heads are. i hope they send word of his trueness onto the black isles of grim where the necro metal lords can revere him for his unrelenting brutality.

z4twenny

You must be a pretty cool guy. You flame people on GS without reading an entire thread and doesn't afraid of anyone, right?

The "Necro Lords" would reject me due to my extensive Marillion collection.

I'm not sure what you thought you were accomplishing, but I'm reasonably sure you managed the opposite. Have fun with that.

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If I could transform all the ignorance in this thread into chickens, I would have enough feathers to build a set of wings and fly away to a far off land where I could kill myself in disgust.

As for the de-feathered chickens, I would make sure to drop them off over a starving population, so something good could come of all this.

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[QUOTE="Guppy507"] You're missing his point completely. He's saying that other forms of music take just as much skill and creativity as metal to produce (and in fact, many lack the skills and creativity found in other genres), yet many metalheads look down upon other forms of music for lacking skill and creativity. Also, FYI, freek is one of the biggest fans of metal on GS.

it's so nice when people read.
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[QUOTE="freek666"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] You're missing his point completely. He's saying that other forms of music take just as much skill and creativity as metal to produce (and in fact, many lack the skills and creativity found in other genres), yet many metalheads look down upon other forms of music for lacking skill and creativity. Also, FYI, freek is one of the biggest fans of metal on GS.

it's so nice when people read.

Metal still sucks though
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For the most part I don't enjoy it, but there a few exceptions.
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#270 ToastRider11
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I like some of it. I'm picky with it and I have to be in the mood to hear it but there are some bands that scream that I enjoy like Atreyu, Bullet for My Valentine, Slipknot, Killswitch Engage and Sonic Syndicate.

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EMOTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]So in other words, you know so much about metal you are automatically a god among men..... No need to get angry sir, its just opinion which you seem to have a hard time understanding because you know so much about music you won't even answer my simple question because you are just that smart and know a lot more than casual folk like me..... I can understand the requirements of being a metal elitist snob because after all, you meet all the requirements.. Congratulations, I hope you are a very happy individual. Good luck proving that METALZ is so much better than that poppy, hip-hop crap because everybody knows Adele and Lady Gaga can't tell the difference between a piano and those fake $10 keytars manufactured by Fisher Price because after all, you are making a difference in somebody's life.. Probably not mine because I actually like stuff beyond death metal

Also I used to be a metal elitist snob just like you, until I took an arrow in the knee :)

OrkHammer007

Wow, you really stepped into this thread from the short bus, didn't you?

If you had actually read what I wrote instead of playing the straw man with Nickelback and BFMV, you would have known the answer. Good going.

I am far from a "metal elitist" or "metal snob." I never once claimed that metal was superior to other styIes of music; in fact, my collection contains a lot of cIassic rock, cIassical music, reggae, blues, etc. All I was pointing out to whatever-his-name is that, compared to a good metal band, pop and hip-hop aren't even close to as talented, due to their absolute reliance on vocals and a computer. I remember a time when all of singers had actual talented bands behind them, and bands with mutilple talented singers; now, all you need is a big pair of boobs, plastic surgery, and a willingness to Autotune.

So two people out of... how many lame pop acts are there now? ...can play an instrument. Whoop-de-f***ing-do.

Finally: I don't listen to death metal. Nice try.

Are you sure you didn't take that arrow in the skull? An MRI can diagnose your brain damage for you, and treatments aren't as invasive as they used to be. Good luck

OrkHammer is the guy people assume most metal heads are. i hope they send word of his trueness onto the black isles of grim where the necro metal lords can revere him for his unrelenting brutality.

z4twenny

You must be a pretty cool guy. You flame people on GS without reading an entire thread and doesn't afraid of anyone, right?

The "Necro Lords" would reject me due to my extensive Marillion collection.

I'm not sure what you thought you were accomplishing, but I'm reasonably sure you managed the opposite. Have fun with that.

First of all I'm not the one who told you to "go away," now did I?

Good thing you aren't a metal elitist snob who thought metal was the best thing ever... Otherwise I would have been disappointed..

Unfortunately just because you point out that most metal bands are better than many hip-hop/pop acts, doesn't make it fact (hint: its called an "opinion").

Good for you that you listen to a wide variety of music (kudos for listening to classical music; most people wouldn't have the guts to admit that).

Fine if you don't listen to death metal; to each his/her own...

So you remember the days when Janis Joplin, Stevie Nicks, etc used to perform? Thats quite a long time ago I bet...

I'm pretty sure I didn't take an arrow to the skull; headshots with an arrow don't register that well..

Yep, all you need is a good ol' nip and tuck and autotune; welcome to America...

By the way I should probably let you know that I used BFMV and Nickelback as examples because I was trolling you this whole time and got you mad... Personally I don't get pissy anytime someone claims metalcore is metal... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNBL3o

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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="freek666"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] You're missing his point completely. He's saying that other forms of music take just as much skill and creativity as metal to produce (and in fact, many lack the skills and creativity found in other genres), yet many metalheads look down upon other forms of music for lacking skill and creativity. Also, FYI, freek is one of the biggest fans of metal on GS.

it's so nice when people read.

Metal still sucks though

oh its the worst
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[QUOTE="freek666"][QUOTE="Guppy507"] You're missing his point completely. He's saying that other forms of music take just as much skill and creativity as metal to produce (and in fact, many lack the skills and creativity found in other genres), yet many metalheads look down upon other forms of music for lacking skill and creativity. Also, FYI, freek is one of the biggest fans of metal on GS.imaps3fanboy
it's so nice when people read.

Metal still sucks though

This is true; Bieber is ultimate :3

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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"][QUOTE="freek666"] it's so nice when people read.Postmortem123

Metal still sucks though

This is true; Bieber is ultimate :3

Nah, Bieber is way too metal. Brokencyde is where its really brutal

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Metal still sucks thoughWolf-Man2006

This is true; Bieber is ultimate :3

Nah, Bieber is way too metal. Brokencyde is where its really brutal

You got me there dude.

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"] Metal still sucks thoughWolf-Man2006

This is true; Bieber is ultimate :3

Nah, Bieber is way too metal. Brokencyde is where its really brutal

Blood on the dance floor is where its at.
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Used to hate it, at first I found it stupid, but after I gave it a chance and listened carefully I started to really like, and now I love it.

Though it depends on the specific genre/subgenre you mean as well as the band..."screaming music" could mean a lot of things.

For me there has to be a purpose for the screaming, it's usually used to express extreme emotion (mainly anger and hate, but not always), and as always the lyrics are very important.

And no this music is not satanic and does not promote violence and self harm…and yes there is a lot of skill involved, probably a lot more than most music. Don't be ignorant people.

lol at anyone who cannot understand this music.

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Used to hate it, at first I found it stupid, but after I gave it a chance and listened carefully I started to really like, and now I love it.

Though it depends on the specific genre/subgenre you mean as well as the band..."screaming music" could mean a lot of things.

For me there has to be a purpose for the screaming, it's usually used to express extreme emotion (mainly anger and hate, but not always), and as always the lyrics are very important.

And no this music is not satanic and does not promote violence and self harm…and yes there is a lot of skill involved, probably a lot more than most music. Don't be ignorant people.

lol at anyone who cannot understand this music.

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What bands are you into?

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#280 Celldrax
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[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

This is true; Bieber is ultimate :3

Just-Breathe

Nah, Bieber is way too metal. Brokencyde is where its really brutal

Blood on the dance floor is where its at.

Aqua's blast beats are unparalleled.

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What bands are you into?

Postmortem123

Some of the bands i like:

Parkaway Drive

Asking Alexandria

Suicide Silence

The Devil Wears Prada (No not the film :x )

Bring Me the Horizon

White Chapel

Arch enemy (is ok, but meh...same for Otep)

The Black Dahlia Murder

etc.

I also like lighter stuff like slipknot, Breaking Benjamin, Rammstein and a few songs from BFMV & Linkin Park.

But im not just a metal fan i also like a lot of Rap (just not the s***, mainstream stuff), Dubstep, a little bit of reggae at the right moments and even some classical music (though only in films and games).

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

What bands are you into?

GamerLegend10

Some of the bands i like:

Parkaway Drive

Asking Alexandria

Suicide Silence

The Devil Wears Prada (No not the film :x )

Bring Me the Horizon

White Chapel

Arch enemy (is ok, but meh...same for Otep)

The Black Dahlia Murder

etc.

I also like lighter stuff like slipknot, Breaking Benjamin, Rammstein and a few songs from BFMV & Linkin Park.

But im not just a metal fan i also like a lot of Rap (just not the s***, mainstream stuff), Dubstep, a little bit of reggae at the right moments and even some classical music (though only in films and games).

Eh, no comment :P

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#283 GamerLegend10
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[QUOTE="GamerLegend10"]

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

What bands are you into?

Postmortem123

Some of the bands i like:

Parkaway Drive

Asking Alexandria

Suicide Silence

The Devil Wears Prada (No not the film :x )

Bring Me the Horizon

White Chapel

Arch enemy (is ok, but meh...same for Otep)

The Black Dahlia Murder

etc.

I also like lighter stuff like slipknot, Breaking Benjamin, Rammstein and a few songs from BFMV & Linkin Park.

But im not just a metal fan i also like a lot of Rap (just not the s***, mainstream stuff), Dubstep, a little bit of reggae at the right moments and even some classical music (though only in films and games).

Eh, no comment :P

whats wrong with them? :(

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="GamerLegend10"]

Some of the bands i like:

Parkaway Drive

Asking Alexandria

Suicide Silence

The Devil Wears Prada (No not the film :x )

Bring Me the Horizon

White Chapel

Arch enemy (is ok, but meh...same for Otep)

The Black Dahlia Murder

etc.

I also like lighter stuff like slipknot, Breaking Benjamin, Rammstein and a few songs from BFMV & Linkin Park.

But im not just a metal fan i also like a lot of Rap (just not the s***, mainstream stuff), Dubstep, a little bit of reggae at the right moments and even some classical music (though only in films and games).

GamerLegend10

Eh, no comment :P

whats wrong with them? :(

I'm not really into deathcore/metalcore, I prefer death metal :)

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#285 GamerLegend10
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I'm not really into deathcore/metalcore, I prefer death metal :)

Postmortem123

ah ok...yeah thats good also :)

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#286 3dfd
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I dont like much screaming, but mild screaming like Avenged Sevenfold is okay.

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#287 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Tasteless crap

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#288 RandomWinner
Member since 2010 • 3751 Posts

[QUOTE="IcyToasters"]

What do you mean by "screaming"?

dream431ca

I think he means something like this: (I love this song BTW)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTMNuKzINDw

I'm not going to lie, I loved it until he started screaming.

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#289 dissonantblack
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if you're referring to screamo, i can't stand it.