Who else thinks that rap should not be considered music?

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

airg6

Sure, but that would be like calling metal "screaming over arpeggios," it makes the art seem easier than it is. Scream with emotion? I do it all the time when I fight with my girlfriend, watch my favourite sports team, or get cut off on the road. :lol:

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. airg6

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Rapping is very creative. Just look at Talib Kweli.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Visualizin the realism of life and actuality
**** who's the baddest a person's status depends on salary
And my mentality is, money orientated
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as five percenters
But somethin must of got in us cause all of us turned to sinners
Now some, restin in peace and some are sittin in San Quentin
Others such as myself are tryin to carry on tradition
Keepin the schwepervesence street ghetto essence inside us
Cause it provides us with the proper insight to guide us
Even though, we know somehow we all gotta go
but as long as we leavin thievin we'll be leavin with some kind of dough
so, and to that day we expire and turn to vapors
me and my capers-ll be somewhere stackin plenty papers
Keepin it real, packin steel, gettin high
Cause life's a b**** and then you die

I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created
Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
Don't go against the grain simple and plain
When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash
Now it's all about cash in abundance, n****z I used to run with
is rich or doin years in the hundreds
I switched my motto -- instead of sayin **** tomorrow
That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
Pack a four-matic that crack your whole cabbage

All you people who say rap doesn't take talent, write verses like that, then talk to me.

I agree with the TC!

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Of course it's music. I think it's garbage music, but it's still music.Zaeryn

The content of the music doesn't matter.. repeated beat doesn't matter either. It's music by definition. Weather you like it or not or weather you think it's good music or not is a different story. But it definetly IS music.

This thread **** blows.nht12101990

I agree

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

airg6

What the hell are you smoking? Rap in it's purest form is nothing but emotion.

Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

How is hip hop/rap (whatever you want to call it) not music? Just because it doesn't use live instruments a lot of the time doesn't discount it as music.

Making beats takes just as much skill as say a.....bass guitar. You have to have a very good ear for music, good timing, and a number of other skills. There's a fair bit of piano in making beats. Plus righting meaningful lyrics is just as hard as for any other music. Just because mainstream hip hop isn't very intelligent that doesn't mean that the whole genre isn't music.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

Vyse_The_Daring

Sure, but that would be like calling metal "screaming over arpeggios," it makes the art seem easier than it is. Scream with emotion? I do it all the time when I fight with my girlfriend, watch my favourite sports team, or get cut off on the road. :lol:

Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

If you can do it, why not do it and make millions? First off, there are so many rappers out there it isn't even funny.. yet only a select few make it. It takes talent to get to that level. Rappers voices do matter, and they don't just talk. If you would rap on the mic, your voice would sound horrible. I guarentee it.

Beats? It's a hell of a lot harder than you think. To just make a beat? It's not too hard.. but to make a halfway decent beat is damn hard.

[QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

airg6

Sure, but that would be like calling metal "screaming over arpeggios," it makes the art seem easier than it is. Scream with emotion? I do it all the time when I fight with my girlfriend, watch my favourite sports team, or get cut off on the road. :lol:

But you need talent to go with that voice. Weak rhymes would be rap's equivalent of a crappy screaming voice, only rhyming requires more creativity.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Of course it's music. I think it's garbage music, but it's still music.The_Mac_Daddy

The content of the music doesn't matter.. repeated beat doesn't matter either. It's music by definition. Weather you like it or not or weather you think it's good music or not is a different story. But it definetly IS music.

[QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.The_Mac_Daddy

If you can do it, why not do it and make millions? First off, there are so many rappers out there it isn't even funny.. yet only a select few make it. It takes talent to get to that level. Rappers voices do matter, and they don't just talk. If you would rap on the mic, your voice would sound horrible. I guarentee it.

Beats? It's a hell of a lot harder than you think. To just make a beat? It's not too hard.. but to make a halfway decent beat is damn hard.

I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
airg6

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. The_Mac_Daddy

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Rapping is very creative. Just look at Talib Kweli.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Visualizin the realism of life and actuality
**** who's the baddest a person's status depends on salary
And my mentality is, money orientated
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as five percenters
But somethin must of got in us cause all of us turned to sinners
Now some, restin in peace and some are sittin in San Quentin
Others such as myself are tryin to carry on tradition
Keepin the schwepervesence street ghetto essence inside us
Cause it provides us with the proper insight to guide us
Even though, we know somehow we all gotta go
but as long as we leavin thievin we'll be leavin with some kind of dough
so, and to that day we expire and turn to vapors
me and my capers-ll be somewhere stackin plenty papers
Keepin it real, packin steel, gettin high
Cause life's a b**** and then you die

I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created
Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
Don't go against the grain simple and plain
When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash
Now it's all about cash in abundance, n****z I used to run with
is rich or doin years in the hundreds
I switched my motto -- instead of sayin **** tomorrow
That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
Pack a four-matic that crack your whole cabbage

All you people who say rap doesn't take talent, write verses like that, then talk to me.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

If you can do it, why not do it and make millions? First off, there are so many rappers out there it isn't even funny.. yet only a select few make it. It takes talent to get to that level. Rappers voices do matter, and they don't just talk. If you would rap on the mic, your voice would sound horrible. I guarentee it.

Beats? It's a hell of a lot harder than you think. To just make a beat? It's not too hard.. but to make a halfway decent beat is damn hard.

I guarentee it because you think rapping on a mic is just talking. That ignorance shows me that you voice would sound horrible when you try to rap.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.swizz-the-gamer

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

Vyse_The_Daring

But it is talking over beats...

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="-Austin-"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. airg6

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Rapping is very creative. Just look at Talib Kweli.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer

I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.

See the stupidity?

Visualizin the realism of life and actuality
**** who's the baddest a person's status depends on salary
And my mentality is, money orientated
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as five percenters
But somethin must of got in us cause all of us turned to sinners
Now some, restin in peace and some are sittin in San Quentin
Others such as myself are tryin to carry on tradition
Keepin the schwepervesence street ghetto essence inside us
Cause it provides us with the proper insight to guide us
Even though, we know somehow we all gotta go
but as long as we leavin thievin we'll be leavin with some kind of dough
so, and to that day we expire and turn to vapors
me and my capers-ll be somewhere stackin plenty papers
Keepin it real, packin steel, gettin high
Cause life's a b**** and then you die

I woke up early on my born day, I'm twenty years of blessing
The essence of adolescent leaves my body now I'm fresh in
My physical frame is celebrated cause I made it
One quarter through life some God-ly like thing created
Got rhymes 365 days annual plus some
Load up the mic and bust one, cuss while I puffs from
my skull cause it's pain in my brain vein money maintain
Don't go against the grain simple and plain
When I was young at this I used to do my thing hard
Robbin foreigners take they wallets they jewels and rip they green cards
Dipped to the projects flashin my quick cash
and got my first piece of ass smokin blunts with hash
Now it's all about cash in abundance, n****z I used to run with
is rich or doin years in the hundreds
I switched my motto -- instead of sayin **** tomorrow
That buck that bought a bottle could've struck the lotto
Once I stood on the block, loose cracks produce stacks
I cooked up and cut small pieces to get my loot back
Time is Illmatic keep static like wool fabric
Pack a four-matic that crack your whole cabbage

All you people who say rap doesn't take talent, write verses like that, then talk to me.

Troll?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

who hasn't heard of the who?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

Half of the words in those verses arent even in the dictionary.
airg6

I skimmed over it and only found 2. I doubt I missed that many, even if I did just skim it.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.The_Mac_Daddy

who hasn't heard of the who?

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

who hasn't heard of the who?

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Orlando_Magic

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

uh.. ok i'll inform the offical board of "what is music and what isn't" of your opinion.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

airg6

Sure, but that would be like calling metal "screaming over arpeggios," it makes the art seem easier than it is. Scream with emotion? I do it all the time when I fight with my girlfriend, watch my favourite sports team, or get cut off on the road. :lol:

Please. If you seriously think rappers just talk over beats then you know nothing. It takes talent to rap over beat and to have amazing flow and lyrics to match the beat. And when I mean flow and having good lyrics dosen't mean just putting simple words together like cat and hat.

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"]

[QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.swizz-the-gamer

who hasn't heard of the who?

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

Funky_Llama

But it is talking over beats...

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"][QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="airg6"]Im not saying that. Most rap is untalented.most rap does not contain the properties that make up music. I could make a rap record if I tried hard enough. I just have to make a beat,write some lyrics and practice rhyming. Rappers dont even have to have good voices because all they do is talk.airg6

Listen to this and tell me you can write a more complex rhyme scheme and make a better / more emotional song than this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nCnqDvvZrcM

(I just got the opera browser and for some reason it's not letting me link....)

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]

People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.

EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".

Funky_Llama

But it is talking over beats...

Yeah, the same way metal is screaming over arpeggios and hitting a hole in one is wacking a ball with a stick. Wow, when I give the simplest definition of anything, it's like there's nothing I can't do!

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Funky_Llama

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Funky_Llama

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

Rap music obviously has a melody. It obviously has harmony. It basically goes without saying.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Orlando_Magic

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Orlando_Magic

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

Meh. It certainly disregards it to the extent that they're pretty much irrelevant.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
The_Mac_Daddy

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

Rap music obviously has a melody. It obviously has harmony. It basically goes without saying.

Joe satriani is more talented than any rapper to walk the face of this god given earth. Im sure most of you dont know who he is. I bet you're going to look him up on youtube right now and act like you know who he is.airg6

Joe satriani is more talented than any rapper to walk the face of this god given earth. Im sure most of you dont know who he is. I bet you're going to look him up on youtube right now and act like you know who he is.airg6

So you've changed from "rap isn't music" to "rappers aren't as talented as Joe Satriani." Excellent backtrack, this thread is is basically over now. Rap = music.

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Funky_Llama

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

Meh. It certainly disregards it to the extent that they're pretty much irrelevant.

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

[QUOTE="airg6"]I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
Funky_Llama

Does it? You ignored melody and harmony.

Meh. It certainly disregards it to the extent that they're pretty much irrelevant.

Do you even know what melody and harmony is?