Why is the United States constantly bashed?

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]

Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"

quiglythegreat

Obviously, you haven't noticed the national debt lately.:|

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]

Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"

SemiMaster

You forgot that the US bailed out France and Japan and other countries after WW2, and FORGAVE the debts. Maybe people should be grateful they can get help.

Oh, I wonder how much someone like Australia or Canada sent...

I love when people run their mouths but 50% of the world just sits and watches.

The European Union sent 420 million Euros...

The European Union sent 420 million Euros...

jointed

And that is made from more than one country.....:|

[QUOTE="jointed"]

The European Union sent 420 million Euros...

LJS9502_basic

And that is made from more than one country.....:|

Yeah and the US is made up of 50 states....what's your point?

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]I always thought of people who made fun of the US as a little midget kid making fun of the real big kid. The big kid just hasn't done anything about it. Seriously you guys can complain, but we'd kick your asses in a war. Especially France, where this stuff is the worst. dsmccracken

Your economy is in ruins from puny little Iraq, but you think you can take on the world?

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]

Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"

SemiMaster

You forgot that the US bailed out France and Japan and other countries after WW2, and FORGAVE the debts. Maybe people should be grateful they can get help.

Oh, I wonder how much someone like Australia or Canada sent...

I love when people run their mouths but 50% of the world just sits and watches.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]

Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"

LJS9502_basic

Obviously, you haven't noticed the national debt lately.:|

Yeah and the US is made up of 50 states....what's your point?

jointed

It's one tax base. How many counties in the UK? Or boroughs? Or cities? Or shires? Or regions? Or towns?:roll:

Because many are arrogent, elitists with nothing to be be arrogent or elitist about.diablo_human

All countries have those....

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
quiglythegreat

Or shires? LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="jointed"]

Yeah and the US is made up of 50 states....what's your point?

LJS9502_basic

It's one tax base. How many counties in the UK? Or boroughs? Or cities? Or shires? Or regions? Or towns?:roll:

This is also one tax base and the EU's member states (size and economy) corresponds more or less to the states in the US.

This is also one tax base and the EU's member states (size and economy) corresponds more or less to the states in the US.

jointed

You can't compare one country to a union of countries....:lol:

PS...there are several tax bases in the EU.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
blackngold29

[QUOTE="jointed"]

This is also one tax base and the EU's member states (size and economy) corresponds more or less to the states in the US.

LJS9502_basic

You can't compare one country to a union of countries....:lol:

PS...there are several tax bases in the EU.

Of course you can...and it's a little more than a union of countries. It's actually very similar to a nation.

And no there's not...not since the The Maastricht Treaty in 1992. The EU and its taxable activities have one tax-base now.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
quiglythegreat

Of course you can...and it's a little more than a union of countries. It's actually very similar to a nation.

And no there's not...not since the The Maastricht Treaty in 1992. The EU and its taxable activities have one tax-base.

jointed

More countries = more of a tax base.:|

The US gives the UN enough. Funny, when I look at contributions it's split by country...and not by EU.

[QUOTE="jointed"]

Of course you can...and it's a little more than a union of countries. It's actually very similar to a nation.

And no there's not...not since the The Maastricht Treaty in 1992. The EU and its taxable activities have one tax-base.

LJS9502_basic

More countries = more of a tax base.:|

The US gives the UN enough. Funny, when I look at contributions it's split by country...and not by EU.

No, the EU taxes EU citizens directly. The activities under EU control shares one tax base.

Well never-mind...forget it. Let's blame Guatemala for only donating 250,000 Euro.

No, the EU taxes EU citizens directly. The activities under EU control shares one tax base.

Well never-mind...forget it. Let's blame Guatemala for only donating 250,000 Euro.

jointed

Still more than one country dude.;)

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
blackngold29

[QUOTE="jointed"]

No, the EU taxes EU citizens directly. The activities under EU control shares one tax base.

Well never-mind...forget it. Let's blame Guatemala for only donating 250,000 Euro.

LJS9502_basic

Still more than one country dude.;)

That doesn't matter...at all.

I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.smcg69

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.blackngold29

No I don't. But if you lived in NK or Iran would you support giving nuclear weapons to the US? How can the US just decide that it is right and every other country who believes things that are contrary to what the US believes is wrong? A person's opinion on these issues generally depends on where they live. Im just trying to look at it from an objective point of view. This is obviously something that many Americans are unable to do

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.smcg69

No I don't. But if you lived in NK or Iran would you support giving nuclear weapons to the US? How can the US just decide that it is right and every other country who believes things that are contrary to what the US believes is wrong? A person's opinion on these issues generally depends on where they live. Im just trying to look at it from an objective point of view. This is obviously something that many Americans are unable to do

Generally, it's the UN that decides. Not the US.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Did you actually read my post? My point is that today, America gives very, very little aid in proportion to its GDP, among the least of all the countries in the United Nations.
blackngold29

They'll pay up, see the Debt Clock Thread, money is meaningless to the US government.blackngold29

After reading, it seems he's misread that. It said behind in payments....but it also said the US was a top contributer for peace keeping funds. Obviously, the US pays....and a higher percentage besides. It's pointless to argue this when individuals don't read the article.

I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.smcg69

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.shoeman12

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.shoeman12

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

I dunno, the way we attacked Iraq was pretty f-ing crazy and it's likely that world war 3 will start as a result of their craziness and ours combining in a big ole bag of crazy.

[QUOTE="smcg69"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.LJS9502_basic

No I don't. But if you lived in NK or Iran would you support giving nuclear weapons to the US? How can the US just decide that it is right and every other country who believes things that are contrary to what the US believes is wrong? A person's opinion on these issues generally depends on where they live. Im just trying to look at it from an objective point of view. This is obviously something that many Americans are unable to do

Generally, it's the UN that decides. Not the US.

Did the UN invade Iraq or Afghanistan? Did the UN report not say that there were no WMDs or biological weapons in Iraq when they searched in 2002-2003?

[QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]Ah, I'm from Canada, and I personally love America, a lot of things there are just so cool! However, your eating portions in resurants aren't realistic. I was never fully finishing my plate of food, our portions up here are just smaller more human like :P. One more thing as well is that you guys can be very rude, oh and you don't like to cover up your ghettos I took one wrong turn in Buffalo and thought someone was going to steal my car. It was like -20 out and there were random people standing on the side walks looking off in space.blackngold29

Haha, that's awesome!

explains obesity

I think we're making some head way.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]Ah, I'm from Canada, and I personally love America, a lot of things there are just so cool! However, your eating portions in resurants aren't realistic. I was never fully finishing my plate of food, our portions up here are just smaller more human like :P. One more thing as well is that you guys can be very rude, oh and you don't like to cover up your ghettos I took one wrong turn in Buffalo and thought someone was going to steal my car. It was like -20 out and there were random people standing on the side walks looking off in space.-R3Vo

Haha, that's awesome!

explains obesity

I think we're making some head way.

Yay, Obesity 08'!

i think my country is controversial because of three things

1. foreign policy

2.foreigners watch the news as if it is still a credible source of information

3. we have way too many conservatives with no brains who elected dumbass george w bush, he may be the pres but hell he'll never be my pres

2.foreigners watch the news as if it is still a credible source of information

nickelarcade

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.shoeman12

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extensive armoury. They have the capability to attack any country in the world. Is this not an equal, if not greater threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the world's safety?

the pompous americans who support the war in Iraq just because their government tells them to make me sick to my stomach. You wanna know what makes america so bad?

- 911 was a hoax to get the US into Iraq for oil

- The numerous secret prisons around the globe where the US torture

- violation of the geneva convention

- arrogant overpatriotic people (not all of you)

- Why is it wrong for any other country to have nuclear capabilities? Why does the US seem to think that they can police the world? After all, the only country who has ever killed anyone with an atom bomb is... you guessed it, the USA.

- hmm, what else? Complete disregard for what any other country says (once again the US think they are better than everyone) no matter what.

- reality tv

- soulja boy

- funding terrorist organizations and fueling conflicts in other countries (israel, saudi ect)

- umm, oh, working toward a north american union and stripping people of their individuality

- the fact that their economy is ruining the world because their money isnt backed with anything but... uhh... air?

- im sure theres more but this is a long list already...

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.smcg69

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.smcg69

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

Did the UN invade Iraq or Afghanistan? Did the UN report not say that there were no WMDs or biological weapons in Iraq when they searched in 2002-2003?

smcg69

And this has to do with the UN not wanting these countries to have these weapons how?

the pompous americans who support the war in Iraq just because their government tells them to make me sick to my stomach. You wanna know what makes america so bad?

so now we're incapable of forming our own opinions? i don't back the iraq war because the government told me to, but because i made the decision to

- 911 was a hoax to get the US into Iraq for oil

are you saying 9/11 was caused by the government? and iraq was NEVER about oil

- The numerous secret prisons around the globe where the US torture

they aren't a big secret anymore and do you have a problem torturing terrorists who wouldn't think twice about blowing themselves up to kill as many americans as possible?

- violation of the geneva convention

again, do terrorists follow the geneva convention?

- arrogant overpatriotic people (not all of you)

its bad to love our country?

- Why is it wrong for any other country to have nuclear capabilities? Why does the US seem to think that they can police the world? After all, the only country who has ever killed anyone with an atom bomb is... you guessed it, the USA.

read my other post, we haven't used them since ww2, iran or north korea would nuke someone for looking at them the wrong way

- hmm, what else? Complete disregard for what any other country says (once again the US think they are better than everyone) no matter what.

so we should just make our decisions based on popularity?

- reality tv

- soulja boy

how are those real criticisms?

- funding terrorist organizations and fueling conflicts in other countries (israel, saudi ect)

now isreal is a terrorist organizition?

- umm, oh, working toward a north american union and stripping people of their individuality

and i suppose you have no problem with the european union?

- the fact that their economy is ruining the world because their money isnt backed with anything but... uhh... air?

try gold

- im sure theres more but this is a long list already...

Gator08

[QUOTE="smcg69"][QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.shoeman12

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

I basically hate them for random crap they do like the 'war on terror'.Haziqonfire