Why is the United States constantly bashed?

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#251 blackngold29
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lmao true... oh and TC:

IRAQ =/= 9/11. THEY DID JACK $%@& TO US UNTIL WE INVADED THEM.

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They were killing their own people, that's why we invaded them, we've been over this once, a few posts back.
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#252 pygmahia5
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because of george bush
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#253 gia15623
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Yea man your right you do see that happing a lot we need some good press sometime
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#254 blackngold29
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because of george bushpygmahia5
Good support for your argument there chief
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#255 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="darkIink"]lmao true... oh and TC:

IRAQ =/= 9/11. THEY DID JACK $%@& TO US UNTIL WE INVADED THEM.

blackngold29

They were killing their own people, that's why we invaded them, we've been over this once, a few posts back.

Nah, that's not why. There's a ton of African countries who actually need help...and they're much easier targets.

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#256 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

becouse they are easy targetted ? so many things US did wrong

and in OT it is common too confront somebody with its mistakes, not it's things he did

whoody12

What'd we do wrong?

-vietnam

-iraq

-soulja boy

-funding alquida(zomg spelling)

-violating human rights

and much more

America really should appolagize for Solja Boy

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#257 X360PS3AMD05
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Because they stand out when they go to other nations for what they really are. That and what we've let our government do.
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#258 curono
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Why?

Invasion to Panama

Invasion to Iraq

Invasion to Afganistan

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

You may say that they were right to do so, but still they are reasons to be hated.

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#259 pygmahia5
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[QUOTE="pygmahia5"]because of george bushblackngold29
Good support for your argument there chief

haha i dont want to go into detail, basically letting 9/11 happen for his selfish...self. being quite dumb, alot more too but idk

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#260 blackngold29
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Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

curono

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

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#261 blackngold29
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letting 9/11 happen for his selfish...self. being quite dumb, alot more too but idkpygmahia5
As in he knew terrorists from another country were gonna get into planes and crash them into buildings? OK

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#262 blackngold29
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NUM ONE reason remains: Soulja Boy
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#263 james28893
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[QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

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Want to be world police..

blackngold29

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

So that's why you only came into WWII when you were attacked, because no one would help you.

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#264 james28893
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NUM ONE reason remains: Soulja Boyblackngold29

Well, your NUM ONE reason.

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#265 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

blackngold29

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

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#266 blackngold29
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"]NUM ONE reason remains: Soulja Boyjames28893

Well, your NUM ONE reason.

Well actually I've been here all day and that reason has been given the most
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#267 blackngold29
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

james28893

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

So that's why you only came into WWII when you were attacked, because no one would help you.

Two days after Pearl Harbor a poll of the US was taken: 65% of people said not to enter the war
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#268 james28893
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

jointed

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Pfft, the EU don't count, they're more than one country :P.

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#269 james28893
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[QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

blackngold29

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

So that's why you only came into WWII when you were attacked, because no one would help you.

Two days after Pearl Harbor a poll of the US was taken: 65% of people said not to enter the war

If you link that I'll believe you.

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#270 CaptHawkeye
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Because the United States holds a disproportionate amount of wealth and power? And is completely irresponcible with both?
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

james28893

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Pfft, the EU don't count, they're more than one country :P.

Well, it has an army...and it's currently deployed in countries like Congo, Chad and Bosnia.

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#272 blackngold29
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

james28893

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

So that's why you only came into WWII when you were attacked, because no one would help you.

Two days after Pearl Harbor a poll of the US was taken: 65% of people said not to enter the war

If you link that I'll believe you.

I'll try to find it, but I learned it in school.
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#273 UrbanSpartan125
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

jointed

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Apparently they just sit one their asses and do nothing, because they certainly aren't helping us with anything nor are they helping with Darfur or Somalia. While we are in our war the lease they could do is send troops to try and stabalize the region.
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#274 UrbanSpartan125
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[QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

jointed

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Pfft, the EU don't count, they're more than one country :P.

Well, it has an army...and it's currently deployed in countries like Congo, Chad and Bosnia.

Well since the EU is so large and powerful why dont they send troops to other parts of the world. The US has troops in virtually every country in the world. The US has troops under NATO in Darfur and other regions as well as many hot spots. And i dont think that the EU sends its troops under the EU, like the US i think they go under NATO control.

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#275 club-sandwich
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Most of the people whos speaks crap about United States haven't even been there.BovinesOnPaska
see? you americans think that your country is awesome and that is the best hting ever, you guys think that you're the world's poilce or something like that.
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#276 Mercenary848
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It seems like quite a few of the things people fault america for are the same issues other countries have.
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#277 Mercenary848
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[QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"]Most of the people whos speaks crap about United States haven't even been there.club-sandwich
see? you americans think that your country is awesome and that is the best hting ever, you guys think that you're the world's poilce or something like that.

Wow generalising sure is fun and he didn't say all of that.

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#278 Hellraiser3899
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I'm just saying, its a country of more than 300 million people. Just because a few are douches, that doesn't represent the whole. Also, the world thinks our leaders are complete idiots, and you know, most of the US population would agree.
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#279 blackngold29
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The reasons are just repeating now
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#280 deactivated-5901ac91d8e33
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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

UrbanSpartan125

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Pfft, the EU don't count, they're more than one country :P.

Well, it has an army...and it's currently deployed in countries like Congo, Chad and Bosnia.

Well since the EU is so large and powerful why dont they send troops to other parts of the world. The US has troops in virtually every country in the world. The US has troops under NATO in Darfur and other regions as well as many hot spots. And i dont think that the EU sends its troops under the EU, like the US i think they go under NATO control.

What's your problem? :roll:

They don't send troops all over the world because that would be against the Petersburg Treaty. And yes, they send troops under the EU. Now, I've just about had it with you and your ignorance. If you're going to insult people, at least do it properly with facts to back up your ridiculous statements.

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#281 Food_Nipple
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[QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

becouse they are easy targetted ? so many things US did wrong

and in OT it is common too confront somebody with its mistakes, not it's things he did

blackngold29

What'd we do wrong?

-vietnam

-iraq

-funding alquida(zomg spelling)

-violating human rights

and much more

I want reasons why these were wrong, that what the thread is for, not mindless one word answers.

I see you conveniently left Soulja Boy out of that quote. Maybe there IS something you can't justify about this.

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#282 club-sandwich
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"]Most of the people whos speaks crap about United States haven't even been there.Mercenary848

see? you americans think that your country is awesome and that is the best thing ever, you guys think that you're the world's poilce or something like that.

Wow generalising sure is fun and he didn't say all of that.

thanks for the heads up captain obvious. :|
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#283 bman784
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They perpetuate everything that's wrong with western society.
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#284 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Its odvious why the US is getting bashed constantly in the past 6 years, because of our foriegn policies.
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#285 Mercenary848
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[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"]Most of the people whos speaks crap about United States haven't even been there.club-sandwich

see? you americans think that your country is awesome and that is the best thing ever, you guys think that you're the world's poilce or something like that.

Wow generalising sure is fun and he didn't say all of that.

thanks for the heads up captain obvious. :|

No problem pal :) .

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#286 Whight_Knight
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Anyone find it funny that this is right under the "Canada is better than America" topic ?
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

becouse they are easy targetted ? so many things US did wrong

and in OT it is common too confront somebody with its mistakes, not it's things he did

whoody12

What'd we do wrong?

-vietnam

-iraq

-funding alquida(zomg spelling)

-violating human rights

and much more

I want reasons why these were wrong, that what the thread is for, not mindless one word answers.

- Vietnam, fighting again communism is useless

Seemed to work to some extent...

-Iraq, the government KNEW that there weren't any chemical weapons

I wasn't aware that you had access to everything the government knows

- Soulja boy, no need to explain

agreed. That is one stupid American out of 300 million though

-funding alquida in the 80's so that they could become in total power in Iraq

Our bad. Other countries have done worse

- violating human rights : only can think of 1 example right now, Napalm

Other countries have used napalm too

- thinking they are the only important country in this world

Since when do we think we are the only important country in the world? Stereotyping inst cool...

- over patriotic, zomg babtist church

Are you kidding... Do some research, not everyone is part of the baptist church....

- thinking you guys are all that great and are obove europe/asia

I do not think this at all...I think that all countries contribute something to the world. Who am I to judge which one is greater than the other.

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[QUOTE="darkmoney52"] They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.blackngold29
Saddam was a threat to his own people, therefore a threat to man (or some men) and since nobody else will do anything except watch the innocent people be killed, the US kinda said "hey hold on a minute" and it went on from there.

Despite all the evidence to the contrary, you actually believe this... weird. If anything that you say here is true, why Iraq and not the country of any/every other despot on the planet? Why a country where the main incidents of violence cited occured YEARS before? Does this mean that the timing (i.e. after 9/11) was a coincidence, that the WTC attack that Iraq had NOTHING TO DO WITH was not the driving factor, that in fact as you say the US was only concerned with the poor Iraqis?

How do people like you still exist? Am I dreaming? Is this really happening? How do you so fully and completely turn logic and reasoning off in your head? Ending tyranny is admirable, noble, there is no doubt of this. BUT YOU CAN NOT USE IT AS JUSTIFICATION AFTER THE FACT AND CLAIM IT WAS YOUR MOTIVATION ALL ALONG. That is called lying, dissembling, being disingenuous. You are rationalizing after the fact using an excuse that wasn't the real reason before the fact. How do you not get that?

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#289 markebici
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Cause the US gets there money for nothing and there chicks for free. Iam not jokeing ether.

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#290 blackngold29
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I'm just saying, its a country of more than 300 million people. Just because a few are douches, that doesn't represent the whole. Also, the world thinks our leaders are complete idiots, and you know, most of the US population would agree.Hellraiser3899
large props sir
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and there chicks for free. Iam not jokeing ether.

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#293 UrbanSpartan125
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[QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="curono"]

Over patriotism

Show off.

Want to be world police..

jointed

Just because everyone else isn't as patriotic as us doesn't mean we're overly patriotic.

We're only the world police because nobody will help us, and we stand up for what we believe, until the job is done.

The only world police? What about the EU?

Pfft, the EU don't count, they're more than one country :P.

Well, it has an army...and it's currently deployed in countries like Congo, Chad and Bosnia.

Well since the EU is so large and powerful why dont they send troops to other parts of the world. The US has troops in virtually every country in the world. The US has troops under NATO in Darfur and other regions as well as many hot spots. And i dont think that the EU sends its troops under the EU, like the US i think they go under NATO control.

What's your problem? :roll:

They don't send troops all over the world because that would be against the Petersburg Treaty. And yes, they send troops under the EU. Now, I've just about had it with you and your ignorance. If you're going to insult people, at least do it properly with facts to back up your ridiculous statements.

I wasnt insulting anyone, i simply stating how the EU doesn't do enough for the size of the union. And even though they have EUFOR many of their operation are still carried through NATO which is much larger than the EU. And the Treaty of Saint Petersburg had nothing to do with military, it just stated that Russia would have sole control over Sakhalin and gave Japan the Kuril Islands.

And yes we do have our troops deployed all over the world

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/cda06-02.cfm

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#294 moptopskate
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because we are teh best. everyone is just jealous
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#296 blackngold29
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"]

First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?dsmccracken

You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?

As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.
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#297 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="darkIink"]lmao true... oh and TC:

IRAQ =/= 9/11. THEY DID JACK $%@& TO US UNTIL WE INVADED THEM.

blackngold29

They were killing their own people, that's why we invaded them, we've been over this once, a few posts back.

That is complete bull. The case made to congress was about WMDs and 9/11 innuendo. Saddam being a brutal dictator... he'd been a brutal dictator for decades, and no invasion. 9/11 occurs and *presto* invasion.

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#298 james28893
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

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First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?blackngold29

You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?

As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.

They only ended it with one of the nations that was fighting in it, by dropping two rather large bombs on them. The Axis powers in Europe would have fallen anyway.

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#299 dsmccracken
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]

First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?blackngold29

You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?

As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.

There are now, the war has been a magnet for them. There is no evidence that anyone connected with 9/11 was in Iraq pre-invasion, so the Canada analogy stands. Try another one.

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#300 blackngold29
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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"]

First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?james28893

You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?

As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.

They only ended it with one of the nations that was fighting in it, by dropping two rather large bombs on them. The Axis powers in Europe would have fallen anyway.

Thank you for agreeing that the US ended WWII.