Why is the United States constantly bashed?

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="smcg69"][QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.darkmoney52

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

But that's what worries people so much; we took the 911 attack as provication to invade Iraq, which had no connection to it whatsoever. Our idea of provocation has gotten way out of hand.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I basically hate them for random crap they do like the 'war on terror'.blackngold29

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="smcg69"][QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.blackngold29

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

But that's what worries people so much; we took the 911 attack as provication to invade Iraq, which had no connection to it whatsoever. Our idea of provocation has gotten way out of hand.

That would be great if they actually had wmds(And please don't say that they did. If they actually had wmds and didn't use them when we invaded they're country I'm inclined to believe that they're capable of possessing them). And btw, no one in our country would've supported the war if they weren't still going **** crazy about 911.

[QUOTE="smcg69"]

Did the UN invade Iraq or Afghanistan? Did the UN report not say that there were no WMDs or biological weapons in Iraq when they searched in 2002-2003?

LJS9502_basic

And this has to do with the UN not wanting these countries to have these weapons how?

You said the UN usually decides which countries are in the wrong. My point is that it wasnt the UN who decided that these countries were invaded. It was the US

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="smcg69"][QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.darkmoney52

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

But that's what worries people so much; we took the 911 attack as provication to invade Iraq, which had no connection to it whatsoever. Our idea of provocation has gotten way out of hand.

That would be great if they actually had wmds(And please don't say that they did. If they actually had wmds and didn't use them when we invaded they're country I'm inclined to believe that they're capable of possessing them). And btw, no one in our country would've supported the war if they weren't still going **** crazy about 911.

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="shoeman12"][QUOTE="smcg69"][QUOTE="shoeman12"]

[QUOTE="smcg69"]I think its becauase the US government seems to see the US as the most important country in the world. They also seem to believe that the majority of the countries in the world believe in the same policies that the US does. The fact that the US attempts to act as a police force/army for the entire world is a major issue. It is somewhat hypocritical when the US denounces Iran, North Korea etc. for pursuing the creation of nuclear power plants and/or weapons when they themselves openly pursue the creation of far superior weapons. These countries would like to see the US disarmed just as the US would like to disarm them. The US however adopts a view that they are always right and therefore should always be allowed to pursue whatever military objectives they feel are "just". This is fundamentally wrong and until the US understands this people will continue to bash the US.blackngold29

you do realize the difference between our wanting to disarm north korea and iran and their wanting to disarm us, right? they have crazed leaders, they want us disarmed so they could attack us or their allies without having to be worried about being wiped off the mpa. we want them disarmed because they would end up doing something stupid and nuking some country (maybe us maybe someone else) and starting ww3

Is it not possible for you to understand that they may see Bush as a crazed leader who invades countries for the sake of securing "stability" (aka oil supplies etc.). How many innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Surely this creates an understandable fear amongst these people and only fuels the hatred that many of them feel towards the US. As far as starting WW3 goes, the US is the country with the most powerful and extansive armoury. They have the capability to attack and country in the world. Is this not an equa, if not greatre threat than the one NK and Iran pose to the worlds safety?

iraq wasn't about oil and most innocent civilians were killed by terrorists. north korea has been pursuing nuclear weapons since before bush was elected. the point is we've only used nukes against japan in ww2, and now we would only use them if another country used them first. do you think north korea and iran would do the same or would just launch them against someone who pissed them off?

But that's what worries people so much; we took the 911 attack as provication to invade Iraq, which had no connection to it whatsoever. Our idea of provocation has gotten way out of hand.

That would be great if they actually had wmds(And please don't say that they did. If they actually had wmds and didn't use them when we invaded they're country I'm inclined to believe that they're capable of possessing them). And btw, no one in our country would've supported the war if they weren't still going **** crazy about 911.

They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I basically hate them for random crap they do like the 'war on terror'.darkmoney52

The terrorists aren't taking over, terrorist activity increased when we went into Iraq. Reguardless of what our intentions were, the war caused much more conflict and violence than it ended.

Exactly. The war on terror is intended to eliminate the extremists who wish to damage America and the American people. How is a war supposed to do this. Just think of every person that was killed by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even if these peoples families didnt have a prior hatred for the US, they more than likely will have now. This is a recipie for disaster as more and more children will grow up hating the US and will ulitmately become the extremists or terrorists of the future

They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.darkmoney52

Exactly. The war on terror is intended to eliminate the extremists who wish to damage America and the American people. How is a war supposed to do this. Just think of every person that was killed by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even if these peoples families didnt have a prior hatred for the US, they more than likely will have now. This is a recipie for disaster as more and more children will grow up hating the US and will ulitmately become the extremists or terrorists of the future smcg69

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"] They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.blackngold29

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"] They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.blackngold29

Yeah and that's a nice ideal, but it just doesn't work in practice. Now, instead of being worried about their dictator they're worried about some stranger on their street who might blow himself up. I wish that we could've done something good for the Iraq people, but we're just not in position to do that.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"] They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.darkmoney52

Yeah and that's a nice ideal, but it just doesn't work in practice. Now, instead of being worried about their dictator they're worried about some stranger on their street who might blow himself up. I wish that we could've done something good for the Iraq people, but we're just not in position to do that.

[QUOTE="smcg69"]Exactly. The war on terror is intended to eliminate the extremists who wish to damage America and the American people. How is a war supposed to do this. Just think of every person that was killed by the US in Iraq and Afghanistan. Even if these peoples families didnt have a prior hatred for the US, they more than likely will have now. This is a recipie for disaster as more and more children will grow up hating the US and will ulitmately become the extremists or terrorists of the future blackngold29

True enough, but now the question is what do we do about it, and staying there is just making things worse. It's hurting our economy, and sooner or later when we do leave(We have to eventually) things are going to go right back into chaos. And btw, I didn't support the war in 2001, if I have to choose between the word of G. Bush and Jon Stewart I'm going with Stewart every time :D

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"] They didn't use WMDs against another country(My point wasn't that Saddam was a good leader, I was just saying that he wasn't a thread to us) And I'm not saying that we should have been apathetic, I'm just saying that using that anger to go into a pointless war with people unassociated with the attack itself is a disservice to all the people who died in the attack.blackngold29

Yeah and that's a nice ideal, but it just doesn't work in practice. Now, instead of being worried about their dictator they're worried about some stranger on their street who might blow himself up. I wish that we could've done something good for the Iraq people, but we're just not in position to do that.

No we're not, the Iraq military is pathetic and once we leave it will completely fall apart. We've replaced tyranny with complete chaos and violence.

No we're not, the Iraq military is pathetic and once we leave it will completely fall apart. We've replaced tyranny with complete chaos and violence.darkmoney52

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]No we're not, the Iraq military is pathetic and once we leave it will completely fall apart. We've replaced tyranny with complete chaos and violence.blackngold29

Yeah I know, but we'll have to leave eventually. It's time we quit stalling and cut our losses.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"]No we're not, the Iraq military is pathetic and once we leave it will completely fall apart. We've replaced tyranny with complete chaos and violence.darkmoney52

Yeah I know, but we'll have to leave eventually. It's time we quit stalling and cut our losses.

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="darkmoney52"]No we're not, the Iraq military is pathetic and once we leave it will completely fall apart. We've replaced tyranny with complete chaos and violence.blackngold29

Yeah I know, but we'll have to leave eventually. It's time we quit stalling and cut our losses.

Lol him and Oreilly would give me the tag-team beating of a life-time.

You said the UN usually decides which countries are in the wrong. My point is that it wasnt the UN who decided that these countries were invaded. It was the US

smcg69

No...I never said that.:| You were ranting about the US decides who doesn't get nukes...I said it's the UN. Keep it straight.

That's so unfair though, I can't find a single guy that admits listening to em(Though an unfortunate number of the ladies at my school do)

[QUOTE="Gator08"]

the pompous americans who support the war in Iraq just because their government tells them to make me sick to my stomach. You wanna know what makes america so bad?

so now we're incapable of forming our own opinions? i don't back the iraq war because the government told me to, but because i made the decision to

- 911 was a hoax to get the US into Iraq for oil

are you saying 9/11 was caused by the government? and iraq was NEVER about oil

yes i am saying that 911 was orchestrated by the US government in order to start the "war on terror" which is no real enemy, it was just an excuse to set up a military base in the middle east and 911 was used to build fear in the maerican people so every time the governent wants to do something all they have to say is " let us do it or you guys get 911 times 2"

- The numerous secret prisons around the globe where the US torture

they aren't a big secret anymore and do you have a problem torturing terrorists who wouldn't think twice about blowing themselves up to kill as many americans as possible?

your government is one that is built on fear, there are twice as many secret prisons as the ones that "arent so secret anymore" the US government has tortured "suspected" terrorists, some people just because they are arab.

- violation of the geneva convention

again, do terrorists follow the geneva convention?

terrorists never agreed to the geneva convention did they? and may I ask ... who are the terrorists you speak of? you mean the US military who have bombed iraq and caused the deaths of over one million iraqi innocents?

- arrogant overpatriotic people (not all of you)

its bad to love our country?

its bad when you think that you are better than everyone just because the media tells you so, learn to think for yourselves, you are on just as high of a pedastle as the rest of the world.

- Why is it wrong for any other country to have nuclear capabilities? Why does the US seem to think that they can police the world? After all, the only country who has ever killed anyone with an atom bomb is... you guessed it, the USA.

read my other post, we haven't used them since ww2, iran or north korea would nuke someone for looking at them the wrong way

Havent used them since ww2 but HAVE USED THEM, NO other country has EVER used nukes. Do you have any info to back up your mindless claims that iran and north korea actually want to nuke the US? all that ahmadinejad has ever said is that his country is in pursuit on nuclear energy and he has no intentions to have a conflict with the US, but the USA has a nack for launching "preemptive strikes" AKA - invasion

- hmm, what else? Complete disregard for what any other country says (once again the US think they are better than everyone) no matter what.

so we should just make our decisions based on popularity?

popularity!? Its called the united nations and they have the right to vote for what should happen. but the US think that the rules dont apply to them.

- reality tv

- soulja boy

how are those real criticisms?

they arent i was trying to lighten the mood after all of the serious ones.

- funding terrorist organizations and fueling conflicts in other countries (israel, saudi ect)

now isreal is a terrorist organizition?

When did i say this? learn to read buddy, i said "fueling conflicts in other countries" SUCH AS Israel. (israel/ palistine conflict)

- umm, oh, working toward a north american union and stripping people of their individuality

and i suppose you have no problem with the european union?

Yes, the European is the same, it was the first step, the north american union is the second step toward a one world government. PS: have you seen the amero? not one canadian or mexican symbol on it.

- the fact that their economy is ruining the world because their money isnt backed with anything but... uhh... air?

try gold

uhh try again? do your homework the US currency is no longer backed by gold. a dollar is worth 2 pennies from what it was in 1913. The us just thinks they can print off money from thin air.

- im sure theres more but this is a long list already...

wanna keep arguing me?

shoeman12

your government is one that is built on fear, there are twice as many secret prisons as the ones that "arent so secret anymore" the US government has tortured "suspected" terrorists, some people just because they are arab.Gator08

[QUOTE="Gator08"] your government is one that is built on fear, there are twice as many secret prisons as the ones that "arent so secret anymore" the US government has tortured "suspected" terrorists, some people just because they are arab.blackngold29

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6515701.stm

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Gator08"] your government is one that is built on fear, there are twice as many secret prisons as the ones that "arent so secret anymore" the US government has tortured "suspected" terrorists, some people just because they are arab.Gator08

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6515701.stm

Iraq can't be justified? What do you consider Sept 11?

I think that we need to eliminate gas powered cars, that is the oil industry's fault not the US

Al Gore loves talking about pollution

We aren't over patriotic (see argument in prior posts)

How can you be over religious, that is the choice of the individual

I also hate the US mainstream media

The US accounts for 2% of deaths in WW2, because we only fought half the time. only Soviets, China and Yugoslavia had a highter %

blackngold29

Iraq was not invaded because of 9/11. Unless you think the US went to Iraq for revenge on Muslims, seriously, they went to war because of the WMDs that turned out not to exist and the fact that the population wasn't particularly happy with Saddam. The US is doing very little to lower the amount of pollution it produces, and it produces the most (still not China yet), it could be doing more. Some Americans are 'over-patriotic', not many, but still there are a number out there.

[QUOTE="Gator08"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Gator08"] your government is one that is built on fear, there are twice as many secret prisons as the ones that "arent so secret anymore" the US government has tortured "suspected" terrorists, some people just because they are arab.blackngold29

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6515701.stm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/jun/13/usa.terrorism

well how could i get you a picture if they are secret genius. Its ignorant to think that if you know of one "secret prison" there arent any more. If you are just going to argue for the sake of argueing than i will just give up now.

Keep hating.

United States of America > Your favorite country.

well how could i get you a picture if they are secret genius. Its ignorant to think that if you know of one "secret prison" there arent any more. If you are just going to argue for the sake of argueing than i will just give up now.Gator08

EDIT: That was 2004, and I question it some, but point taken.

Just because they're in the spotlight. If another country was considered the world's superpower, they would obviously fall under the same flak, it's just a stupid endless cycle of ignorance.

[QUOTE="Gator08"]well how could i get you a picture if they are secret genius. Its ignorant to think that if you know of one "secret prison" there arent any more. If you are just going to argue for the sake of argueing than i will just give up now.blackngold29

yes, and before you knew about area 51 and guantanamo they were secret, and tomorrow when you find out the next one they wont be secret any more either. to think that the only "secret" military bases are ones that arent even secret is just stupid.

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Gator08"]well how could i get you a picture if they are secret genius. Its ignorant to think that if you know of one "secret prison" there arent any more. If you are just going to argue for the sake of argueing than i will just give up now.Gator08

yes, and before you knew about area 51 and guantanamo they were secret, and tomorrow when you find out the next one they wont be secret any more either. to think that the only "secret" military bases are ones that arent even secret is just stupid.

[QUOTE="Gator08"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="Gator08"]well how could i get you a picture if they are secret genius. Its ignorant to think that if you know of one "secret prison" there arent any more. If you are just going to argue for the sake of argueing than i will just give up now.blackngold29

yes, and before you knew about area 51 and guantanamo they were secret, and tomorrow when you find out the next one they wont be secret any more either. to think that the only "secret" military bases are ones that arent even secret is just stupid.

ugh you keep missing the point so im just going to say it one last time.

ehem.. The point is, Guantanamo USED to be secret before people found out about it, So Prison X will no longer be a secret when people find out about it, that Prison Y will be discovered. The point is, all known "secret prisons" used to actually BE secret, and to think that there areny ANY ACTUAL secret prisons is a little silly don't you agree?

[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"]Ah, I'm from Canada, and I personally love America, a lot of things there are just so cool! However, your eating portions in resurants aren't realistic. I was never fully finishing my plate of food, our portions up here are just smaller more human like :P. One more thing as well is that you guys can be very rude, oh and you don't like to cover up your ghettos I took one wrong turn in Buffalo and thought someone was going to steal my car. It was like -20 out and there were random people standing on the side walks looking off in space.darkmoney52

Haha, that's awesome!

explains obesity

I think we're making some head way.

Yay, Obesity 08'!

We should make a movie about our findings and name it Super Size M-- Ah sh*t...

I take it the TC doesn't watch the news often.......

The U.S is bashed because it deserves it.

I take it the TC doesn't watch the news often.......

The U.S is bashed because it deserves it.

coolpixel

[QUOTE="coolpixel"]

I take it the TC doesn't watch the news often.......

The U.S is bashed because it deserves it.

blackngold29

Well, maybe these people deserve it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE

I think some of it has to do with the fact that they can't even get their act together and yet the policies by the government make it seem as if they are the best and the rest of the world should just agree and go along with whatever they think is the best way forward.

Lets take a look at some of the facts.

-On almost ever measure of citizenship rights , the US lags behind the other 20 or so rich countries of the world.

-The gap between rich and poor is greater in the US than in any other rich country and the population of the country clasified as poor is larger as well.

- There is no national healthcare system

-No national system of paid parental leave

- No national system of childcare

-In recent decades the government has slashed the number if families receiving welfare benefits.

-The US spends more on military than the rest of the world combined.

because usa is on the top? and people psychologically speaking always want to bring down those at the top?rowzzr

That right there is why the US is bashed, not because they are on top (the country is a mess economy wise, war in iraq, healthcare, illegal immigration, trillions in debt) but because the country is far from the top and the American people seem to think that they are still the best when they are very far from it.

[QUOTE="rowzzr"]because usa is on the top? and people psychologically speaking always want to bring down those at the top?Gator08

That right there is why the US is bashed, not because they are on top (the country is a mess economy wise, war in iraq, healthcare, illegal immigration, trillions in debt) but because the country is far from the top and the American people seem to think that they are still the best when they are very far from it.

Life quality wise Switzerland and Canada are at the top. Bash them now! I believe free healthcare is overrated.

I think some of it has to do with the fact that they can't even get their act together and yet the policies by the government make it seem as if they are the best and the rest of the world should just agree and go along with whatever they think is the best way forward.

coolpixel

[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

becouse they are easy targetted ? so many things US did wrong

and in OT it is common too confront somebody with its mistakes, not it's things he did

whoody12

-vietnam

-iraq

-soulja boy

-funding alquida(zomg spelling)

-violating human rights

and much more

lmao true... oh and TC:

IRAQ =/= 9/11. THEY DID JACK $%@& TO US UNTIL WE INVADED THEM.