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[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="whoody12"]What'd we do wrong?becouse they are easy targetted ? so many things US did wrong
and in OT it is common too confront somebody with its mistakes, not it's things he did
whoody12
-vietnam
-iraq
-funding alquida(zomg spelling)
-violating human rights
and much more
I want reasons why these were wrong, that what the thread is for, not mindless one word answers.- Vietnam, fighting again communism is useless
-Iraq, the government KNEW that there weren't any chemical weapons
- Soulja boy, no need to explain
-funding alquida in the 80's so that they could become in total power in Iraq
- violating human rights : only can think of 1 example right now, Napalm
- thinking they are the only important country in this world
- over patriotic, zomg babtist church
- thinking you guys are all that great and are obove europe/asia
Dude, wtf. First off, no one here thinks the US is better then any other country. I don't know where that comes from, but knock it off. We are not any more patriotic then any other country in the world. You want over patriotic? Go look at North Korea. Soulja boy is not America's fault. Fighting in Vietnam isn't why people hate Americans. Americans hated Vietnam as well. We are NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE to being the only country that violates human rights.
Because we have a dumbass president who dosen't know how to run a country. We also have suicide and homicidal people here. We also have a corrupt government who makes so many ****ing mistakes it isn't even funny. I'm from America BTW.KHfanboy2
Nearly every country has suicide and homicidal people...
Because we have a dumbass president who dosen't know how to run a country. We also have suicide and homicidal people here. I'm from America BTW.KHfanboy2Well the people of America voted for him, People kill each other and themselves everywhere.
[QUOTE="KHfanboy2"]Because we have a dumbass president who dosen't know how to run a country. We also have suicide and homicidal people here. I'm from America BTW.blackngold29Well the people of America voted for him, People kill each other and themselves everywhere.
Another reason why America is bashed.
I dont get it even though Japan mercilesly bombed Pearl Harbor killing millions upon millions of innocent lives people love that countryFuzzman38Well, it wasn't "millions upon millions"
[QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]
First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?blackngold29
You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?
As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.They only ended it with one of the nations that was fighting in it, by dropping two rather large bombs on them. The Axis powers in Europe would have fallen anyway.
Thank you for agreeing that the US ended WWII.Thank you for ignoring any sensible argument that you've got no answer for.
I dont get it even though Japan mercilesly bombed Pearl Harbor killing millions upon millions of innocent lives people love that countryFuzzman38
If you think the Japanese killed millions, especially just in Pearl Harbour, you deserve to be hit.
Well the people of America voted for him, People kill each other and themselves everywhere.[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="KHfanboy2"]Because we have a dumbass president who dosen't know how to run a country. We also have suicide and homicidal people here. I'm from America BTW.james28893
Another reason why America is bashed.
We have democracy and fair presidential elections?[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="james28893"][QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]
First, they did use some WMDs. Second, you didn't want us to be angry over 911? just forget it happened or what?dsmccracken
You are frickin' unbelievable. Of course you shouldn't forget what happened, but what in the bloody world does that have to do with Iraq? You were angry about Pearl Harbour too, does that mean you invade Canada?
As I recall, the US entered WWII and eventually ended it. Canada was not involved with Pearl Harbor, but there are terrorists inside Iraq.They only ended it with one of the nations that was fighting in it, by dropping two rather large bombs on them. The Axis powers in Europe would have fallen anyway.
Thank you for agreeing that the US ended WWII.Thank you for ignoring any sensible argument that you've got no answer for.
Your welcome, I'm only one 19 year old kid.I dont get it even though Japan mercilesly bombed Pearl Harbor killing millions upon millions of innocent lives people love that countryFuzzman38
I love Japan.
[QUOTE="james28893"]Well the people of America voted for him, People kill each other and themselves everywhere.[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="KHfanboy2"]Because we have a dumbass president who dosen't know how to run a country. We also have suicide and homicidal people here. I'm from America BTW.blackngold29
Another reason why America is bashed.
We have democracy and fair presidential elections?No, that the people just voted for him. Methinks you were trying to dodge the obvious.
Your welcome, I'm only one 19 year old kid.blackngold29
Then you might be interested to know that the investigation into 9/11, the largest investigation in the history of the world, which chased down 500,000 leads and interviewed 175,000 people, which comprises millions of documents, and has unlimited access to every inch and every file in all of Iraq, all of this has turned up a grand total of 0.00 evidence that Saddam & Iraq had anything to do with it. None. Zilch.
In fact, Osama and al-Qaeda HATED Saddam and the Baathist regime, hated their secular nature in an important Islamic centre, and during the first Gulf War was concerned that Saddam had designs on Saudi Arabia and had plans to fight Saddam there. Remember that the next time you have an itch to type anything about there being terrorists in bloody Iraq pre-invasion.
I dont get it even though Japan mercilesly bombed Pearl Harbor killing millions upon millions of innocent lives people love that countryFuzzman38
Everybody has killed lots of people at one time or another. Pearl Harbour isn't ancient history yet, but it is long enough ago to let bygones be bygones.
[QUOTE="whoody12"]-violating human rights
and much more
BovinesOnPaska
srsly... terrorists are using women as suicide bombers... Jihad? I think not.. using 10 year olds to wage your war... Jihad? I think not... Blow up innocent civilians of all races and genders... Jihad? I think not.
[QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="whoody12"]-violating human rights
and much more
Bio_Sm0g
srsly... terrorists are using women as suicide bombers... Jihad? I think not.. using 10 year olds to wage your war... Jihad? I think not... Blow up innocent civilians of all races and genders... Jihad? I think not.
You forgot their latest: The mentally hadicapped. Unbelieveible really.[QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="whoody12"]-violating human rights
and much more
Bio_Sm0g
srsly... terrorists are using women as suicide bombers... Jihad? I think not.. using 10 year olds to wage your war... Jihad? I think not... Blow up innocent civilians of all races and genders... Jihad? I think not.
Terrorists didn't sign the Geneva Convention.
[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"][QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="whoody12"]-violating human rights
and much more
jointed
srsly... terrorists are using women as suicide bombers... Jihad? I think not.. using 10 year olds to wage your war... Jihad? I think not... Blow up innocent civilians of all races and genders... Jihad? I think not.
Terrorists didn't sign the Geneva Convention.
Ohh ya!....oh, ya, sorry.[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"][QUOTE="BovinesOnPaska"][QUOTE="whoody12"]-violating human rights
and much more
jointed
srsly... terrorists are using women as suicide bombers... Jihad? I think not.. using 10 year olds to wage your war... Jihad? I think not... Blow up innocent civilians of all races and genders... Jihad? I think not.
Terrorists didn't sign the Geneva Convention.
Regardless, some not ALL, middle eastern countries support these terrorists.
The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
SonKev
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
[QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
ryan21248
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
Righteo, we were trying to avoid war. After Pearl Harbor 65% of Americans said "Stay out of the war."[QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
ryan21248
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
So.. now your bashing america for entering a war too late? make up your minds... w/o America in WW2 Europe woulda been screwed.
[QUOTE="ryan21248"][QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
Bio_Sm0g
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
So.. now your bashing america for entering a war too late? make up your minds... w/o America in WW2 Europe woulda been screwed.
No. Russia, France, Great Britain, Canada, India, Australia could have handled it (and largely they did).
France, Great Britain were on the verge of being taken over. Canada hardly contributed in comparison to other nations. and had america not assisted australia in the phillipines they'd be speaking japanese right now.Bio_Sm0g
Wow. Considering GB had won the Battle of Britain, virtually crippled Germany's navy I can't see how it wsa on the verge of being taken over. And way to leave out Russia (largest army) and India.
[QUOTE="ryan21248"][QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
Bio_Sm0g
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
So.. now your bashing america for entering a war too late? make up your minds... w/o America in WW2 Europe woulda been screwed.
It was a group effort, without any of the big players, the others would have been screwed. What does this have to do with anything current anyway?
I agree. The real reason the U.S. is bashed is because the other countries envy our values and our prosperity. The U.S. donates more to Charity than any other nation, and we are bearing the brunt of the war on Terror, really Britain, Canada, Australia and Israel are the only other countries doing anything significant to stop Terrorism.First off I'm from the US, and I find it odd that the United States gets made fun of so much. Can somebody explain why? Here's some things I find odd:
Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"
The United States is in so much debt it isn't even funny (go to: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ after five seconds click refresh and watch how much it goes up). We're always sending money and all people do is complain, you don't think we could keep it?
The United States is ranked 16 on the list of % of people living in poverty. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States )
I understand that the war is a big controversey, but after Sept 11, when over 3000 people were murdered (remember that?), everybody was pretty much for it. George W. Bush is still fighting because he's standing up for what he believes in. Is that a bad thing? I think not.
discuss
blackngold29
[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"][QUOTE="ryan21248"][QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
dsmccracken
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
So.. now your bashing america for entering a war too late? make up your minds... w/o America in WW2 Europe woulda been screwed.
It was a group effort, without any of the big players, the others would have been screwed. What does this have to do with anything current anyway?
Absolutely Nothin'.[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"][QUOTE="ryan21248"][QUOTE="SonKev"]The US constantly gets bashed because we have to do all the dirty work of the world... The rest of the world...example europe etc.. doesnt do anything until its to late (WW2)
Big brother always takes the heat
And the funny thing is, we dont give a crap what the ressed of the world says, they can all jump off a bridge together
dsmccracken
your a bit of an idiot...so did the usa join before anything happened? the answer is no :O shocker... you waited untill you were attacked and then you joined so your argument is invalid
So.. now your bashing america for entering a war too late? make up your minds... w/o America in WW2 Europe woulda been screwed.
It was a group effort, without any of the big players, the others would have been screwed. What does this have to do with anything current anyway?
People are complaining that Americans today say that "we won WWII for everyone".
I agree. The real reason the U.S. is bashed is because the other countries envy our values and our prosperity. The U.S. donates more to Charity than any other nation, and we are bearing the brunt of the war on Terror, really Britain, Canada, Australia and Israel are the only other countries doing anything significant to stop Terrorism.whipassmtprops sir. and not just because you agree you give good points.
France, Great Britain were on the verge of being taken over. Canada hardly contributed in comparison to other nations. and had america not assisted australia in the phillipines they'd be speaking japanese right now.Bio_Sm0g
That's funny, you weren't saying that on D-Day when Canada had 1 beach to America's 2 even though we only have 1/10 of your population.
[QUOTE="blackngold29"]I agree. The real reason the U.S. is bashed is because the other countries envy our values and our prosperity. The U.S. donates more to Charity than any other nation, and we are bearing the brunt of the war on Terror, really Britain, Canada, Australia and Israel are the only other countries doing anything significant to stop Terrorism.First off I'm from the US, and I find it odd that the United States gets made fun of so much. Can somebody explain why? Here's some things I find odd:
Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"
The United States is in so much debt it isn't even funny (go to: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ after five seconds click refresh and watch how much it goes up). We're always sending money and all people do is complain, you don't think we could keep it?
The United States is ranked 16 on the list of % of people living in poverty. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States )
I understand that the war is a big controversey, but after Sept 11, when over 3000 people were murdered (remember that?), everybody was pretty much for it. George W. Bush is still fighting because he's standing up for what he believes in. Is that a bad thing? I think not.
discuss
whipassmt
Spain too actually, more in self defence since the Madrid bombings.
People are complaining that Americans today say that "we won WWII for everyone".james28893We do? American helped to end the war (Atomic bombs, like it or not its true), but we far from "won it for everyone."
[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"]France, Great Britain were on the verge of being taken over. Canada hardly contributed in comparison to other nations. and had america not assisted australia in the phillipines they'd be speaking japanese right now.dsmccracken
That's funny, you weren't saying that on D-Day when Canada had 1 beach to America's 2 even though we only have 1/10 of your population.
All who participated in D-Day are heros.[QUOTE="james28893"]People are complaining that Americans today say that "we won WWII for everyone".blackngold29We do? American helped to end the war (Atomic bombs, like it or not its true), but we far from "won it for everyone."
I never said you do, it's just what people complain about, but I've met a couple like that.
[QUOTE="Bio_Sm0g"]France, Great Britain were on the verge of being taken over. Canada hardly contributed in comparison to other nations. and had america not assisted australia in the phillipines they'd be speaking japanese right now.james28893
Wow. Considering GB had won the Battle of Britain, virtually crippled Germany's navy I can't see how it wsa on the verge of being taken over. And way to leave out Russia (largest army) and India.
I'm on your side, but GB hadn't really won, they were pretty much treading water. Another wave would have sunk them if not for the intercession of the US (and the USSR opening up another front). Plus, even the treading of water was only made possible by the Lend-Lease act which gave GB access to desperately needed American aid.
We do? American helped to end the war (Atomic bombs, like it or not its true), but we far from "won it for everyone."[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="james28893"]People are complaining that Americans today say that "we won WWII for everyone".james28893
I never said you do, it's just what people complain about, but I've met a couple like that.
They are in the minority, but point taken sir.As much as I agree with you, there are many people here who think we are the enemy. Lets not forget that most of the anti-America attacks are from people like Hugo Chaves and Fidel Castrol (who aren't very nice guys and rule with an iron fist.) Part of the reason why we are hated is because we are a free country and have rights.
[QUOTE="blackngold29"]I agree. The real reason the U.S. is bashed is because the other countries envy our values and our prosperity. The U.S. donates more to Charity than any other nation, and we are bearing the brunt of the war on Terror, really Britain, Canada, Australia and Israel are the only other countries doing anything significant to stop Terrorism.First off I'm from the US, and I find it odd that the United States gets made fun of so much. Can somebody explain why? Here's some things I find odd:
Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"
The United States is in so much debt it isn't even funny (go to: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/after five seconds click refresh and watch how much it goes up). We're always sending money and all people do is complain, you don't think we could keep it?
The United States is ranked 16 on the list of % of people living in poverty. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States )
I understand that the war is a big controversey, but after Sept 11, when over 3000 people were murdered (remember that?), everybody was pretty much for it. George W. Bush is still fighting because he's standing up for what he believes in. Is that a bad thing? I think not.
discuss
whipassmt
Not really...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4145259.stm
France, Germany, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway...virtually every single NATO nation is helping in the war on terror :roll:
Is or were?France, Germany, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway...virtually every single NATO nation is helping in the war on terror :roll:
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[QUOTE="jointed"]Is or were?France, Germany, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway...virtually every single NATO nation is helping in the war on terror :roll:
blackngold29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ISAF.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force
[QUOTE="blackngold29"][QUOTE="jointed"]Is or were?France, Germany, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway...virtually every single NATO nation is helping in the war on terror :roll:
jointed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force
Point taken.[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="blackngold29"]I agree. The real reason the U.S. is bashed is because the other countries envy our values and our prosperity. The U.S. donates more to Charity than any other nation, and we are bearing the brunt of the war on Terror, really Britain, Canada, Australia and Israel are the only other countries doing anything significant to stop Terrorism.First off I'm from the US, and I find it odd that the United States gets made fun of so much. Can somebody explain why? Here's some things I find odd:
Two days after the Indian Ocean tsunami in 2004 the United States sent a $300million check to the relief effort. The response was basically: "What, that's it?"
The United States is in so much debt it isn't even funny (go to: http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/after five seconds click refresh and watch how much it goes up). We're always sending money and all people do is complain, you don't think we could keep it?
The United States is ranked 16 on the list of % of people living in poverty. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States )
I understand that the war is a big controversey, but after Sept 11, when over 3000 people were murdered (remember that?), everybody was pretty much for it. George W. Bush is still fighting because he's standing up for what he believes in. Is that a bad thing? I think not.
discuss
jointed
Not really...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4145259.stm
France, Germany, Spain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway...virtually every single NATO nation is helping in the war on terror :roll:
how many troops do they have in Iraq or Afghanistan. German and French troops in Afghanistan are not allowed to go into the combat zones. And even if they are helping they are not doing their fare share. Non- U.S. troops in Afghanistan total about 23,ooo and U.S. troops in Afghanistan is about 23,ooo so on it's own the U.S. is sending the same amount of troops as the other allies put together.Please Log In to post.
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