GOP will no longer participate in presidential debates

Trump, Biden Might Not Debate in 2024 as Republicans Ditch Organizing Group

Surprised this hasn't been brought up yet. Seems Republicans won't be participating in future presidential debates.

If I had to guess, they can't compete on substantive policy that Democratic Party backs and has the support of a majority of voters, and instead the GOP hopes to win by hammering on social issues.

Not surprising, they are wrong on most topics on an objective level. Imagine them having to discuss Covid, Book Bans, or Climate Change. Oof.

MSNBC CNN CBS all lean left and too much internal bias. Legacy media just isn't appropriate for these debates anymore. It truly needs to be non partisan for these to make sense.

Really got bad durring 2016, especially with Hillary Clinton getting the questions before the debates. They should have done this in 2020 imo.

Better late than never.

Truth

Dude they even cried bias on FOX and ABC debates lol. It seems reality and facts have a bias against Republicans, so no more debates.

Cry babies.

@zaryia: Yeah, when "we shouldn't overthrow the government when we lose an election", " evolution isn't fake", and "climate change is real" constitute left wing positions, then....

Its true, FOX was biased towards trump. They wanted Cruz.

Look at Chris Wallace who did the FOX debates in 2020. Left to work for CNN+ which is pretty funny because CNN+ failed already after 1 month lol

Legacy media is dying, only boomers care about it. CNN is one of the worst, they rode so hard on being anti trump the network doesn't know what to do anymore. too many times caught lying, too many scandals covering for politicians.

"Executives at Discovery were not impressed: At any given time, fewer than 10,000 people were watching the service, said two people familiar with the numbers, who were not authorized to speak publicly. (On Thursday, Mr. Morse said he was leaving the network entirely.)"

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/21/business/cnn-plus-shutting-down.html

No it's not. Even if it was true, he's gone from FOX. What's their excuse now?

You're party is a bunch of crybaby soyboys if they can't even do POTUS debates anymore. Not even on FOX? ROFL! I guess this is what happens when you're factually wrong on most topics.

Look, I have no respect for the party backing out of debates, but the current way they are done is close to worthless. Discussing complex subjects two minutes at a time is not enough.

If the GOP can come up with an alternative idea that seems reasonable, it might be worth trying out.

Wow where is the concrete evidence to back up that claim?

What does it even matter? It's not the GOP actually has a platform or actually stands for anything beyond unburdening the wealthy from regulation and taxation, anyway.

@tjandmia: true, but to keep the power they have they can't risk jeopardizing it by giving voters any idea what they stand for (or don't stand for), i, meantime they continue to redraw states to gerrymandering more seats for the House, and weaken their states voting laws, so I think it matters in the larger scheme of things

CNN fired Donna over it.. It was reported everywhere. How do you not know this?

https://www.thewrap.com/hillary-clinton-donna-brazile-debate-cnn/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/donna-brazile-wikileaks-cnn.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/07/donna-brazile-is-totally-not-sorry-for-leaking-cnn-debate-questions-to-hillary-clinton/

Nothing says president material like cowering in pathetic fear from having to confront your opponent in a conversation.

The left has banned books for decades and still does. You are mildly delusional at this point.

Now imagine the left having to define gender or explain the record inflation and not having a leftwing media outlett preparing questions for them the whole time.

You can list all the off-topic bullshit you want, but the RIGHT are the ones who just declined to participate in future debates 😂.

They LEFT aren't the ones who are no longer participating in debates 😂

Whataboutisms are fun. Is there a thread where you don't use them? Show the post where I defended this from the left, and how this applies to the GOP no longer participating in debates.

All of them, including FOX, did this? 😆 And the excuses begin.

But she was fired long ago, and the 2020 debates went just fine. So what's the issue?

Also how about the other networks? You gonna keep findings excuses for these soy boy snowflake conservatives who can't debate?

@zaryia:

They aren't the ones who are no longer participating in debates 😂

You mean the ones when the media was preparing questions for the democratic candidates ?🤣🤣

@zaryia:

Whataboutisms are fun. Is there a thread where you don't use them? Show the post where I defended this from the left, and how this applies to the GOP no longer participating in debates.

Because you mentioned having to have a debate and mentioned book banning.. the left would have to explain it as well as they have done the exact same thing.

You use red herrings and whataboutisms all the time. So enjoy s taste of your own medicine.

1. Did this happen in 2020.

2. How many networks did this.

Sounds like you're making excuses for your little soyboy snowflakes who just ran scared with their tales tucked under their legs. They can't debate, we get it.

So very very sad.

The left didn't just bow out of every future POTUS debates, nor did they recently ban or remove over 1,600 books. It's for the best I guess, they wouldn't do well in debates with all the recent lunacy.

So lower the thresholds for debates and hold them without the GOP.

The alternative is to read in depth policy proposals. That's always been the case, and debates have always been worthless as a method to debate policy proposals.

What they are good at is providing high profile media attention to candidates.

The only reason she was fired was because this was exposed in hacked emails by Wiki Leaks.

Think about that for a second...

If it hadn't of been forwiki leaks hacking the Podesta emails... Nobody would have ever known and CNN would have done nothing about it.

@zaryia:

1. Did this happen in 2020.

2021 actually 🤣🤣

@zaryia:

2. How many networks did this?

Sounds like you're making excuses for your little soyboy snowflakes who just ran scared with their tales tucked under their legs. They can't debate, we get it.

So very very sad.

One of the largest leftwing networks who hosted the Debate. The answer should be 0.

The rest of your rant sounds like a cringe inducing projection.

@zaryia:

The left didn't just bow out of every future POTUS debates, nor did they recently ban or remove over 1,600 books. It's for the best I guess, they wouldn't do well in debates with all the recent lunacy.

Neither did the right. They just want common sense reform that for some reason the left won't agree to. The left can't have a debate unless it's 3 vs 1.

Debates are an important part of the democratic process, and the RNC is committed to free and fair debates," RNC ChairwomanRonna McDanielsaid in a statement. "The Commission on Presidential Debates is biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates including hosting debates before voting begins and selecting moderators who have never worked for candidates on the debate stage."

Wrong answers. I'm referring to the media preparing questions for Democrats.

1. Did this happen in 2020?

2. How many networks did this in 2020.

If you are oddly referring to a one-off in 2016, why didn't they decline the 2020 debates? You're making excuses for the GOP, and it's actually weird and make no sense.

Projection? This literally could only be the case if Democrats also announced they were no longer doing Presidential debates. Poor choice of words.

Man the GOP really wussed out. They pulled a Coldfeet Crowder!

So over the course of a decade less than 1% of the amount Cons banned recently. False Equivalency might not even be strong enough of a word to use here haha.

So did it happen in 2020, and with how many networks? Or are you just referring to 2016 and one network? That is odd, why didn't they make this decision in 2020 if so?

I think we both know why this is happening.

So she shared two emails with the Clinton campaign and was promptly fired by the network.

It's as any other company relieving an employee of their duty because of a breach of ethics/company policy.

GOP has unpopular plans and don't want the voters to know it. So they're hiding like the snowflakes they are. If you can't debate policy, you don't deserve to win anyway.

An employee from one network sharing 2 emails in 2016 and then being fired is the reason they are cancelling the 2024 Presidential debates!

The 2 cons in this thread must be on the strongest kool-aid.

Yeah, I thought they meant the entire setlist was presented for the debate. The questions could even be held up to coincidence based on the place of the debate (someone at a Flint MI debate would obviously be asking about the poisoned water).

Wouldn't surprise me if rumors about questions have been passed along to candidates for decades

The books will be allowed in classroom libraries, but no student can be required to read them.

That's a ban?

Yeah, I wouldn't go to a debate either if I was the single greatest threat to American Democracy and had nothing constructive to say. GOP policy is super unpopular at the moment, all they have left is culture war; and if you try to argue that in a controlled setting, you lose.

The Democrats should still have a "debate"; or rather, they should still have an open forum and let a panel of journalists ask them tough questions. Even if they can't argue against the opposing party, they can still have their voices heard.

Their message should be "We showed up for America to see us and hear us. Did the GOP?"

@mrbojangles25: record high inflation, gas prices going through the roof, manufacturing and supply issues widespread.

The right has plenty to capitalize on right now besides "culture war" politics.

But culture is important too, politics is downstream from what happens culturally so it has an impact.

All of which started in 2020 during Trump, and are global. They know they'll get skewered in a POTUS debate if they bring this up.

Must be why they are cancelling Presidential debates 🤣

Yeah banning thousands of books because you didn't like someone's skin color or sexuality is great culture war material. 👏

Yeah, not really a problem exclusive to America or Democrats. This is a worldwide issue that would have impacted whatever party was in charge.

But you're right, of course, GOP will probably just try to blame the democrats. Capitalize on it, as you said, because lord knows they don't have any solutions to anything. All they have is culture war and blame democrats.

The question I have for you is: how should the GOP capitalize on it? Would they offer objective and constructive solutions? Common-sense policy changes? Or just blame the Democrats?

Lol stop projecting... the left is the party of soyboys. The term was even made to describe left leaning men with low testosterone.

The Republicans are simply asking for reform and none of their request are unreasonable. Is there a reason why a moderator should be a former Democratic strategist? 🤔

What issues do you have? You all are going to get fucking trounced in the midterms.

As they should its mostly their fault. Who wanted to shut down the country for longer then it needed to be? Who wanted to keep printing money? When did the stock market tank? The left fucked up what should have been an easy recovery.

FTFY

Well then you all should do great in the midterms 🤣

I'm literally just talking about the original post and thread title. Sorry for using an apt description of the GOP regarding this event.

People who run from debates. 😉

Wait what debate was 3v1 from 2020? What network did this for Biden vs Trump? Also what network prepared questions for Democrats in 2020?

Sounds fake. This all seems like scared snowflakes to me.

Please stop derailing. This is about the GOP wussing out of Presidential debates.

@zaryia: one of the moderators in 2020 used to ******** work for Biden.

That's nonsense

this is a smart move

If they really want to make waves, have Trump announce his presidential run on the Joe Rogan Experience. Trump can ask Rogan to host a debate between him and Biden lol

@zaryia:

I'm literally just talking about the original post and thread title. Sorry for using an apt description of the GOP regarding this event.

Then stop using the term Soyboy as it was made to describe liberal males. Come up with your own shit.

@zaryia:

Wait what debate was 3v1 from 2020? What network did this for Biden vs Trump? Also what network prepared questions for Democrats in 2020?

Sounds fake. This all seems like scared snowflakes to me.

Why would democratic strategist need to moderate a debate? And yes that did happen in 2020.

Sounds like reasonable reform.

Libs can't debate without home field advantage. That's why they won't agree to common sense reform.

No. I'll use any insult I prefer for these cowards. Thanks for the concern though.

How many times and networks? Was it really 3v1 or were you mad about the persons past employment? Seems like they are crying and bitching about nothing substantial.

They can't? There was no Presidential debates in 2020 without a Democrat strategist?

@zaryia: why is it not concerning to you that one of the moderators in 2020 worked directly for Biden... That is nonsense lol

Let's make Rudy Giuliani a moderator in 2024 lol nonsense

Who was this? Do you have proof they were they biased in the overall questions? How many debates had this happen for all of the 2020 debates?

Sounds like the GOP are being soy.

You have a point. Look at this photo of a low testosterone, affeminate Democratic congressman that's making the rounds in the current news cycle: