OFFICIAL Sonic Generations Thread

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#2401 sonictrainer
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As much as I like a light stories for Sonic games as the next guy am I the only one who don't mind seeing a heavy story in Sonic game (nothing like 06 of course) mixed with the humour Colours had....I'll shut up now.koolkat14

I can see a Sonic game having a good, decent story. It just has to have the right balance. I don't want it to try too hard like Sonic 06 but I don't want it to be lacking like Generations, which is an Anniversary game.

The story in Sonic Colors was fine, although I think the DS version did better.

Also, I'm starting to get tired of plots where's its obvious Eggman is the culprit. I'm wondering if we need new villains in the Sonic Game Universe.

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#2402 kbaily
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[QUOTE="koolkat14"]As much as I like a light stories for Sonic games as the next guy am I the only one who don't mind seeing a heavy story in Sonic game (nothing like 06 of course) mixed with the humour Colours had....I'll shut up now.ShadowofSonic
Sonic Colors had no humor. Every single joke fell flat. It made you feel like you were playing a game for kids 7 and under. What a terrible script.

Yeah because all the other Sonic games were so brilliantly written (sarcasm). At least Colors could poke fun at itself.

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#2403 SuperSmashBro1
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Huge Generations spoiler---> [spoiler] I actually didn't think it would be Eggman in this game. [/spoiler]

In all seriousness,I'm no fan of super light story's like this game has.The one in Colors was fine since that at least had a cutscene after you finish every "world" while in here its after every 3 levels.

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#2404 macrules_640
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Color's story seemed pretty well scripted in parts.
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#2405 ShadowofSonic
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Color's story seemed pretty well scripted in parts.macrules_640
...It felt like they were trying to turn the game into some gay Saturday morning show.
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#2406 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="macrules_640"]Color's story seemed pretty well scripted in parts.ShadowofSonic
...It felt like they were trying to turn the game into some gay Saturday morning show.

Also, Saturday morning wasn't gay you just have the appreciation value for actually good shows, as a modern day fool raised in the streets. Chances are you spent more time getting into trouble than enjoying your life.

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#2407 macrules_640
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I actually liked that Sonic and Tails made jokes about Robotnik, it gave it a feel of AOSTH all over again.
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#2408 SuperSmashBro1
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"Baldy Mcnosehair?Thats the best thing i've heard all day!"
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#2409 macrules_640
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. :P
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#2410 SuperSmashBro1
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I was dissapoint in no one in Generations called Eggman that name :P
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#2411 koolkat14
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Sonic Colors had no humor. Every single joke fell flat. It made you feel like you were playing a game for kids 7 and under. What a terrible script.ShadowofSonic

I beg to differ. I actually enjoyed most of the jokes in the game although the clobbering one was a bit too much. I can understand if you don't like the Colours story that much but saying that it has no humour at all is ridiculous.

I can see a Sonic game having a good, decent story. It just has to have the right balance. I don't want it to try too hard like Sonic 06 but I don't want it to be lacking like Generations, which is an Anniversary game.

 

The story in Sonic Colors was fine, although I think the DS version did better.

Also, I'm starting to get tired of plots where's its obvious Eggman is the culprit. I'm wondering if we need new villains in the Sonic Game Universe.

sonictrainer

I have to agree with you about Generation's story, I'm perfectly fine with how it is but there's something about it that feels....lacking for some reason. As for having a new villain, well, I don't mind having a new one, as long as it doesn't have to do with some huge monster or something like that. :P

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#2412 Cloud_765
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I like how we're trying to argue over the necessity of story in a game that was originally about purely and exclusively gameplay, compounded on the fact the story has fluctuated in story quality since they tried to incorporate story in the games. Seriously, if the story itself was good, the writing around it would be bad, or vice versa.

Sonic stories always feel more at home when they don't take themselves seriously and can poke fun at themselves. The last time a "serious story" actually really worked was maybe Sonic Heroes if we want to count that, all subsequent games have failed to deliver on story in one way or another and even Heroes had its flaws.

I personally think the writing in Generations was fine, it just lacked more of it. Colors had a lot of cutscenes, and the story was actually decently-sized when you put it all together. Generations' scenes are few and far between, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing.

As for Colors having no humor, humor isn't always about laughing out loud so hard that you die. I kinda like to think of Colors' humor as a little more cutesy and unafraid of itself. If you know what I'm saying.

On the note of villains, this is why it's essential they get Metal Sonic in more games. He's behaved on his own before, they could easily put him as a main villain of another game. However, let's look back at all the times they TRIED to add more villains than Eggman...

-Chaos (Who turned out was never a villain, just trying to protect his kin since he was an accended Chao if I'm correct. It was something like that.)
-Biolizard (Had no personality and only served as the instrument of Gerald Robotnik's revenge, to be used as a killswitch for crashing the ARK into Earth.)
-Mephiles (Was completely doing his own thing separate of Eggman that I've seen so far and his goal is Final Fantasy cliche goal of doomsday god bullcrap.)
-Dark Gaia (Also had no personality, was kinda just raising hell because he was woke up early.)

I won't even go into other games. See what I'm getting at? Villains outside of Eggman really never had a personality or just didn't click with the Sonic universe or even worse, weren't REAL villains, just godlike entities that were angry about something and disturbed. Fun fact: all god creatures in Sonic are angry babies that b**** and cry when you wake them up.

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#2413 sonicphc
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@SuperSmashBro - I didn't think it would be either. That was a pleasant surprise :)
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#2414 ShadowofSonic
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@koolkat14

For me, it didn't. I suppose I've gotten too old for such quips.

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#2415 TAMKFan
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You know, I can't wait to see some DLC for this game.
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#2416 white_kunoichi
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Sonic Colors is really what I want in his games on stories. But all I want in video games is to play.
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#2417 zmanrwks
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You know, I can't wait to see some DLC for this game.TAMKFan
Well, I guess it's good, when you think about it, that they aren't saying anything about DLC within a month of it being released, unlike other games...

*glares at Saints Row: The Third* 

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#2418 kbaily
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Sonic Colors is really what I want in his games on stories. But all I want in video games is to play.white_kunoichi

Well sadly as we've seen there's a VERY SMALL minority of fans who want the Sonic series to take itself seriously depsite how badly that went in '06. But like most of you I feel that when the main characters of your series are a bunch of techincolor woodland animals, you can't take yourself that seriously and you should be like a Saturday morning cartoon.

Newsflash: Sonic was a series ALWAYS aimed at the younger set, much like Mario. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy it too but anyone who thinks the series needs to be "serious" and "deep" just because they're insecure and want to feel like this series "grew up" with them needs to get over it. There are plenty of mature games with deep stories geared at older gamers to give you that. May I suggest the games of Bioware?

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#2419 Soniczero1993
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I enjoy Sonic because he's actually good, and a good character. Most you get out of shooters is a name. And if you do talk and/or see their face, they usually get replaced by the sequel. This is why I prefer Doom, as that game was all about gameplay, not some stupid story about how communism is still going around.
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#2420 sonicphc
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As far as the stories, dialogue, and jokes go, fid you know that sonicphc has a rant FOR EVERYTHING? (Yes, the rant enclosed in that link is relevant to this discussion. Sometimes I wonder why I haven't written a rant in a while. Then I realize it's because I usually just have a rant to cite rather than having to write a new one...)
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#2421 kbaily
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Well the other complaint now is some folks don't like Sonic's altered personality being a bit more cocky as opposed to his dated 90s too cool persona that had gotten old and the fact that Tails is no longer kissing his butt but overall most folks are pleased wtih the new direction and everyone else just has to suck it.

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#2422 macrules_640
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I like Sonic's new approach, it shows that Sega is actually listening now, and wants to make up for what they did.
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#2423 ShadowofSonic
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I like Sonic's new approach, it shows that Sega is actually listening now, and wants to make up for what they did.macrules_640
It's time for them to atone. :P
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#2424 white_kunoichi
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Sonic looks beat up in your sig, mac. :P
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#2425 ShadowofSonic
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Sonic looks beat up in your sig, mac. :Pwhite_kunoichi
Yea, is that a finger I see? :o
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#2426 macrules_640
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Yeah the render I used is from the Archie comics and the latest issues of the Sonic comic.
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#2427 ShadowofSonic
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Yeah the render I used is from the Archie comics and the latest issues of the Sonic comic.macrules_640
Plagiarism I say!
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#2428 macrules_640
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It's not, it's a render I found on DeviantART.
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#2429 ShadowofSonic
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Then you stole it form the DeviantART guy! :o
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#2430 macrules_640
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Not really, the person offered the render as a download, and I did.
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#2431 ShadowofSonic
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Turns out I'm getting my Sonic Generations(PS3) for Christmas. ^_^ WITH AN HD TV!

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#2432 SuperSmashBro1
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Turns out I'm getting my Sonic Generations(PS3) for Christmas. ^_^ WITH AN HD TV!

ShadowofSonic

and you know this how?

*resist posting SnooPINGAS meme*

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#2433 ShadowofSonic
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My eye sees all.
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#2434 Soniczero1993
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Better poke it.
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#2435 sonictrainer
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Seriously, if the story itself was good, the writing around it would be bad, or vice versa.

Cloud_765

.....what?

 

On the note of villains, this is why it's essential they get Metal Sonic in more games. He's behaved on his own before, they could easily put him as a main villain of another game. However, let's look back at all the times they TRIED to add more villains than Eggman...

I won't even go into other games. See what I'm getting at? Villains outside of Eggman really never had a personality or just didn't click with the Sonic universe or even worse, weren't REAL villains, just godlike entities that were angry about something and disturbed. Fun fact: all god creatures in Sonic are angry babies that b**** and cry when you wake them up.

Cloud_765
 Do any of the Heroes we have now have any good character development? 

 

One of the things I like about the Archie Comics that is Sonic has to fight other villains besides Eggman and Metal Sonic.

I really don't see a problem with making a interesting villain that's not a monster of the week but can actually hold their own against Sonic and even Eggman.

Heck, they could bring back Nack the Weasel.

The only other problem is that most of the new characters Sonic fights either become Antiheroes or switch sides to become Heroes.

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#2436 macrules_640
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You shouldn't be snooping around your parents room, that's not nice.
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#2437 ShadowofSonic
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You shouldn't be snooping around your parents room, that's not nice.macrules_640
I don't. My mental abilities are unrivaled. Means always 100% on tests, heehee....
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#2438 Soniczero1993
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Unrivaled my ass. You can't even tell me what my favorite 16-bit PC game is.
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#2439 ShadowofSonic
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Unrivaled my ass. You can't even tell me what my favorite 16-bit PC game is. I'm a troll because I suck at life.Soniczero1993
Why so serious? *Turns back on DOOM soundtrack he was listening to*
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#2440 Soniczero1993
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]Unrivaled my ass. You can't even tell me what my favorite 16-bit PC game is. I'm a troll because I suck at life.ShadowofSonic
Why so serious? *Bows to s0*

Very funny, but it is YOU who is the troll my friend.

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#2441 macrules_640
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I'll stay out of the conversation.
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#2442 SuperSmashBro1
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*changes topic*

So...anyone listen to the voicework in languages other then Japanese and English?Its pretty good.

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#2443 Soniczero1993
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Nah, I'll stick to my native language.
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#2444 macrules_640
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Like Soniczero said, I'll stick to my native language.
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#2445 SuperSmashBro1
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I usually do the same,although it is nice they added other languages,you know,for people with other native languages.

..Watching to many Spanish dubbed movies has contaminated me..

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#2446 srbrans
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Yeah I've been meaning to put the German voices on for a while now, since Iizuka apparently said that Robotnik's German voice fits him perfectly...
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#2447 ShadowofSonic
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Yeah I've been meaning to put the German voices on for a while now, since Iizuka apparently said that Robotnik's German voice fits him perfectly...srbrans
:lol: It does, I've heard it!
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#2448 macrules_640
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I always thought the same for Robotnik when he had John Baldry as his voice back in the 90s. :P
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#2449 Cloud_765
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Alright since the game's been out over a month I'm gonna unsticky this now, but of course, let the conversations continue.

So, favorite zones, anyone? Here's mine:

1. Chemical Plant
2. City Escape
3. Green Hill
4. Speed Highway
5. Planet Wisp
6. Sky Sanctuary
7. Crisis City
8. Rooftop Run
9. Seaside Hill

Though like Sonic Colors, I like all the levels, just some more than others.

Except it should be noted I'm not in as favorable a standing for Seaside Hill as the other 8...

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#2450 TAMKFan
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It's between Chemical Plant, Sky Sanctuary and Seaside Hill for me.