SF Giants wins 2nd World Series in 3 years, sweeps Detroit Tigers. Sandoval MVP.

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#501 Master_Live
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Fine rotation. I like Washington's better, also Halladay/Hamels/Lee, and Weaver/Haren/Wilson. And by the numbers, Posey is more like the 3rd or 4th best hitting catcher in the NL.
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#502 barcx17
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[QUOTE="barcx17"]

I applaud Matt Cain, and I'm a Dodgers' fan. Hell of a performance. BUT... unless Lincecum steps up/regains his form from two years ago, I don't see the Giants making it to the playoffs.

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I do. Cain, Vogelsong, and Bumgarner is the best rotation in baseball, plus Pablo is back and Melky has become one of the best hitters in the league along with the best hitting catcher in the league. They're in pretty good shape, regardless of Lincecum.

They have a good 1-2 punch in Cain and Bumgarner, I'll give them that, but I think Washington's Gonzalez and Strasburg are better. Best hitting catcher? Yeah, he's good, but I think Carlos Ruiz gives him a run for his money. The only thing Posey has over Ruiz (aside from age) is a pop of power; Can't win games with just home runs though.

All season is going to be between Dodgers and Giants in the division. And with this new Wild Card system, who knows, both teams might make it. I would love to see a Dodgers/Giants National League Championship Series.

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#503 TonyDanzaFan
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[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"]

[QUOTE="barcx17"]

I applaud Matt Cain, and I'm a Dodgers' fan. Hell of a performance. BUT... unless Lincecum steps up/regains his form from two years ago, I don't see the Giants making it to the playoffs.

barcx17

I do. Cain, Vogelsong, and Bumgarner is the best rotation in baseball, plus Pablo is back and Melky has become one of the best hitters in the league along with the best hitting catcher in the league. They're in pretty good shape, regardless of Lincecum.

They have a good 1-2 punch in Cain and Bumgarner, I'll give them that, but I think Washington's Gonzalez and Strasburg are better. Best hitting catcher? Yeah, he's good, but I think Carlos Ruiz gives him a run for his money. The only thing Posey has over Ruiz (aside from age) is a pop of power; Can't win games with just home runs though.

All season is going to be between Dodgers and Giants in the division. And with this new Wild Card system, who knows, both teams might make it. I would love to see a Dodgers/Giants National League Championship Series.

I was pretty wrecked last night. You're right, at this moment he's not the best. But he's better thhan Ruiz. Ruiz has a much longer track record of not being a good offensive player. I think this is more of a fluke that we are seeing with him. Ruiz isn't on the phillies to hit, he's there to man that rotation. But Buster has the potential to be the best hitting catcher in the entire MLB. Sooner rather than later we will see this. We would be seeing this sooner if notfor his gruesome injury last year. Buster just turned 25 and had an incredible rookie season, and hes been no slouch this season either. THe only guy I would say MAY have a better future is Weiters, but I still think Posey will be better. 18 Home runs as a catcher in only 105 games as a rookie is pretty impressive. I didn't say the Giants have the best one-two punch. I said they had the best rotation. Jordan Zimmerman is not better than Ryan Vogelsong, and when Lincecum is mentally healthy, then there is 100% no question that it is the best one-two punch, let alone rotation.

And you can't win games with homers? The 2012 New York Yankees say otherwise. And Buster Posey, who you were alluding to, hits more than home runs.:roll:

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#504 TonyDanzaFan
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Fine rotation. I like Washington's better, also Halladay/Hamels/Lee, and Weaver/Haren/Wilson. And by the numbers, Posey is more like the 3rd or 4th best hitting catcher in the NL. Master_Live
I forgot about the Angel's. I'd say they are about on par as far as quality goes, despite Haren's struggles early this year. Halladay/Hamels/Lee isn't what it was, even a year ago. Halladay is injured pretty badly, Hamels has been solid, but he's not coming back and may even be traded, and Lee doesn't even have a single win yet. Vance Worley is a beast though. My point is that the Giants have the most consistent, and if not the best, certainly a top 5 rotation. For my money, though, it is the best. Lincecum just needs some rest to get his mind right. Maybe start smoking again, as that seemed to work before.
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#505 Boston_Boyy
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Oh how the might have fallenhonestly though, did anyone think this was ever a decent idea at any point in time?

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#506 JohnBean42
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What the f*ck is going on with this team. 3 injured starters, 4 games. One may need another TJ, who knows about Hutch, and Morrow could be out 6-8 weeks.

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#507 Master_Live
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That was Oakland does, their budget is limited so they have to take flyers here and there.
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#508 TonyDanzaFan
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That was Oakland does, their budget is limited so they have to take flyers here and there. Master_Live
Exactly. They sign players like Manny in hopes that they will produce anything so they can ship them away at the deadline. I just hope the yankees can somehow get big fatty back if they can't make a deal for Garza.
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14th and counting? Thousands of "fans" walking out in the 13th. Sad, truly sad.

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The A's should should pick up Vlad, he's been hot in AAA. They could get him for a bargain and ship him out for a tidy profit. The playoff race is going to be great this year. Plenty of teams still in the mix.

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Tex coming up big. Sounds like they're playing in the Bronx. Yankee fans being raucous as always.

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#510 Master_Live
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Yanks on fire.
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#511 Master_Live
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Lidge getting booed, lol.
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#512 Namgis
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Lidge getting booed, lol. Master_Live

The last 2 games he's faced the Yanks, 1in - 5ernies. They have plenty to boo :P

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#513 Master_Live
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Can't stand the Nats announcers, watching the game on mute.
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#514 Master_Live
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And that is that Bryce.
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Can't stand the Nats announcers, watching the game on mute. Master_Live

Glad I got the YES telecast. I too dislike the Nats guys.

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14th and counting? Thousands of "fans" walking out in the 13th. Sad, truly sad.

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The A's should should pick up Vlad, he's been hot in AAA. They could get him for a bargain and ship him out for a tidy profit. The playoff race is going to be great this year. Plenty of teams still in the mix.

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Tex coming up big. Sounds like they're playing in the Bronx. Yankee fans being raucous as always.

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Why would they get rid of one old guy who hadn't played in a year, for another, who's old team thought he wasn't ready...just like Manny? Cliff Lee can't buy a break...and I'm okay with that today. Great comeback win. This team has shown me something after the type of news they've received in the last week. Bigger story: Romero didn't get hurt!
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Who knew there was a CR hockey team? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Rockies_%28NHL%29
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#518 Namgis
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Why would they get rid of one old guy who hadn't played in a year, for another, who's old team thought he wasn't ready...just like Manny? JohnBean42

Because it's what they do. If he's cheap, why not give him a go? They can judge for themselves. I think Vlad can help out a few teams in the DH/PH market.

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#519 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]Why would they get rid of one old guy who hadn't played in a year, for another, who's old team thought he wasn't ready...just like Manny? Namgis

Because it's what they do. If he's cheap, why not give him a go? They can judge for themselves. I think Vlad can help out a few teams in the DH/PH market.

I guess they could. They'll probably talk to Toronto to get a read on how close he was first. There really wasn't anywhere for him to go, which was a problem. There wasn't much room for Manny in Oakland though...didn't wanna move Cowgill, Smith or Moss. Idk if they would for Vlad.
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#520 JohnBean42
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Jays, Rockies discussing Guthrie.

http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/blue_jays_rockies_discussing_guthrie/11033636?new_post=true

Makes sense imo. He seems to get a lot of hate. But the Jays need some kind of upgrade. I'd rather have Garza or Dempster, but they might not be traded until July.

Farrell was non-committal towards the next two starters needed, so who knows. Guthrie knows the ALE, has had solid numbers, especially in 2010 when the O's lost 96 games. Innings eatter. And if he performs well, you could flip him at the deadline for something slightly better in return than you gave up.

And I have no problem with trading McDade. With Gomes/Cooper/Lind in the system, 1B is kind of taken.

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#521 JohnBean42
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Although this IS Anthopoulos we're talking about. If it's mentioned, it ain't happening.

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#522 Oleg_Huzwog
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Based upon the most recent round of vote tallying, here are the forecasted All-Star Game starting rosters:

NL

  • C - Yadier Molina (should be Carlos Ruiz)
  • 1B - Joey Votto (the right choice)
  • 2B - Dan Uggla (should be Jose Altuve)
  • 3B - David Wright (the right choice)
  • SS - Troy Tulowitzki (terrible choice, he's been injured for much of the season; should be Starlin Castro)
  • OF - Matt Kemp (another guy who's spent much of the season injured; should be Carlos Gonzalez)
  • OF - Carlos Beltran (should either be Melky Cabrera or Andrew McCutchen)
  • OF - Ryan Braun (right choice)

AL

  • C - Mike Napoli (should be AJ Pierzynski)
  • 1B - Prince Fielder (should be Paul Konerko)
  • 2B - Ian Kinsler (should be Jason Kipnis)
  • 3B - Adrian Beltre (should be Miguel Cabrera)
  • SS - Derek Jeter (not the worst choice, given his hot April, but should be Elvis Andrus)
  • OF - Josh Hamilton (right choice)
  • OF - Curtis Granderson (right choice)
  • OF - Jose Bautista (should be Adam Jones)
  • DH - David Ortiz (should be Adam Dunn)

EDIT: Bautista passed Cruz in voting

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#523 JohnBean42
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Based upon the most recent round of vote tallying, here are the forecasted All-Star Game starting rosters:

NL

  • C - Yadier Molina (should be Carlos Ruiz)
  • 1B - Joey Votto (the right choice)
  • 2B - Dan Uggla (should be Jose Altuve)
  • 3B - David Wright (the right choice)
  • SS - Troy Tulowitzki (terrible choice, he's been injured for much of the season; should be Starlin Castro)
  • OF - Matt Kemp (another guy who's spent much of the season injured; should be Carlos Gonzalez)
  • OF - Carlos Beltran (should either be Melky Cabrera or Andrew McCutchen)
  • OF - Ryan Braun (right choice)

AL

  • C - Mike Napoli (should be AJ Pierzynski)
  • 1B - Prince Fielder (should be Paul Konerko)
  • 2B - Ian Kinsler (should be Jason Kipnis)
  • 3B - Adrian Beltre (should be Miguel Cabrera)
  • SS - Derek Jeter (not the worst choice, given his hot April, but should be Elvis Andrus)
  • OF - Josh Hamilton (right choice)
  • OF - Curtis Granderson (right choice)
  • OF - Nelson Cruz (should be Adam Jones)
  • DH - David Ortiz (should be Adam Dunn)
Oleg_Huzwog
Bautista passed Cruz and is in 3rd. So wouldn't he be the 3rd OF? But I agree, Jones should be there as a starter. Even over Granderson.
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#524 Oleg_Huzwog
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Bautista passed Cruz and is in 3rd. So wouldn't he be the 3rd OF? But I agree, Jones should be there as a starter. Even over Granderson.JohnBean42

Yep, you're right. I posted that about 2 hours before MLB released the latest and greatest vote numbers.

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#525 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]Bautista passed Cruz and is in 3rd. So wouldn't he be the 3rd OF? But I agree, Jones should be there as a starter. Even over Granderson.Oleg_Huzwog

Yep, you're right. I posted that about 2 hours before MLB released the latest and greatest vote numbers.

Ah, my bad. Didn't look at the time between when they were released and you're post. I just assumed since they did come out today, that's what you were talking about.
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#526 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]Bautista passed Cruz and is in 3rd. So wouldn't he be the 3rd OF? But I agree, Jones should be there as a starter. Even over Granderson.JohnBean42

Yep, you're right. I posted that about 2 hours before MLB released the latest and greatest vote numbers.

Ah, my bad. Didn't look at the time between when they were released and you're post. I just assumed since they did come out today, that's what you were talking about.

Not your bad. My bad. Poor timing.

Anyhoo, moving on... let's see your list of deserving All-Star snubs and undeserving vote getters.

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#527 JohnBean42
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[QUOTE="JohnBean42"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Yep, you're right. I posted that about 2 hours before MLB released the latest and greatest vote numbers.

Oleg_Huzwog

Ah, my bad. Didn't look at the time between when they were released and you're post. I just assumed since they did come out today, that's what you were talking about.

Not your bad. My bad. Poor timing.

Anyhoo, moving on... let's see your list of deserving All-Star snubs and undeserving vote getters.

I agree with the ones you wrote down. I also think Astrubal Cabrera deserves a look at SS. Edwin Encarnacion deserves to make it as a DH, along with Dunn and Ortiz. Really doubt it though. Beltran and McCutchen deserve to be in it. If a team NEEDS a player there, I think Mauer could go as a backup catcher. Idk anyone else from the Twins really who could. Cano or Kipnis at 2B, Jones AND Granderson in. I don't think Bautista deserves it this year, but he'll probably make it. Rest of the team I either agree with, or agree with you. I'm always interested in who's pitching. A lot of promising pitchers who could have went, now out. Morrow, Dempster, Beachy.
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#528 JohnBean42
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In Jays news, Kyle Drabek needs TJS. Again. That really sucks. Only guy I know of to have that is Jason Frasor. And he hasn't been hurt since.

Only one not hurt or playing at an MLB level from that trade is D'Arneud.

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#529 Master_Live
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When looking at All-Star balloting I focus on the terrible choices since, those that absolutely deserve it will eventually get in by getting pick by the manager/Final vote/injury replacement. Tulo shouldn't be there, Napoli either. Konerko should get in to. Beltran deserves a spot and Granderson too. Both Yadier and Ruiz should be in. Carlos Gonzalez, Kipnis, Adam Jones should be in. Da Captain better not skip the Game this year.
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Based upon the most recent round of vote tallying, here are the forecasted All-Star Game starting rosters:

NL

  • C - Yadier Molina (should be Carlos Ruiz)
  • 1B - Joey Votto (the right choice)
  • 2B - Dan Uggla (should be Jose Altuve)
  • 3B - David Wright (the right choice)
  • SS - Troy Tulowitzki (terrible choice, he's been injured for much of the season; should be Starlin Castro)
  • OF - Matt Kemp (another guy who's spent much of the season injured; should be Carlos Gonzalez)
  • OF - Carlos Beltran (should either be Melky Cabrera or Andrew McCutchen)
  • OF - Ryan Braun (right choice)

AL

  • C - Mike Napoli (should be AJ Pierzynski)
  • 1B - Prince Fielder (should be Paul Konerko)
  • 2B - Ian Kinsler (should be Jason Kipnis)
  • 3B - Adrian Beltre (should be Miguel Cabrera)
  • SS - Derek Jeter (not the worst choice, given his hot April, but should be Elvis Andrus)
  • OF - Josh Hamilton (right choice)
  • OF - Curtis Granderson (right choice)
  • OF - Jose Bautista (should be Adam Jones)
  • DH - David Ortiz (should be Adam Dunn)

EDIT: Bautista passed Cruz in voting

Oleg_Huzwog

I'm liking all the Sox love in this post. Not sure if it's all warranted, but liking it nonetheless (though Dunn not getting the call at this pace would be a travesty).

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I think it warants bring up R.A. Dickey's name again after ANOTHER one-hitter tonight, which likely makes him the favorite for the Cy Young this year. Just take a look at his last 5 starts: 43.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 52 Ks, 5 BBs, 0.48 WHIP. If David Wright hadn't allowed an unearned run in on a throwing error in his last start he'd be gunning for Orel Hershiser's scoreless innings record.

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I agree Dickey has been on fire. I called him to be the next no-no guy this year just 2 days prior to his first one hitter. His knuckler is the best I've seen in a long time. He throws it a lot harder than most guys who toss the knuck, that's what's getting to the hitters.

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I know I wouldn't mind seeing him in Yankee pin stripes.

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#533 TonyDanzaFan
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I think it warants bring up R.A. Dickey's name again after ANOTHER one-hitter tonight, which likely makes him the favorite for the Cy Young this year. Just take a look at his last 5 starts: 43.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 52 Ks, 5 BBs, 0.48 WHIP. If David Wright hadn't allowed an unearned run in on a throwing error in his last start he'd be gunning for Orel Hershiser's scoreless innings record.

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Dickey has been phenomenal, but it's way too early to call any awards. Just look at Ubaldo in 2010. The guy won like 15 games in a row and everybody was saying he was the best pitcher ever. BTW, wtf happened to him? His fastball was routinely 97-100 WITH movement! He's turned into a complete disaster, and I'm glad the yankees didn't trade for him. That said, I hope the Yankees can make a deal for Garza and not Wandy. Garza is damn good, and he looks like Vanilla Ice lol. I doubt it would take that much to get him. Wandy would get raped in the AL East.
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#534 Oleg_Huzwog
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Joel Peralta ejected for having pine tar on his glove. That's some good ol' fashioned cheating. Awesome. I just became a fan of his.

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Does anybody listen to the Fantasy Focus Baseball Podcast? They read my email today on the show. It made me giddy when I heard my name lol.
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Does anybody listen to the Fantasy Focus Baseball Podcast? They read my email today on the show. It made me giddy when I heard my name lol. TonyDanzaFan
What was the question?
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Why isn't this thread stickied? Uribe had 24 HR in the last year he was with the Giants. He has 5 about halfway through his 3 year contract with the Dodgers. coLOLettii
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Marlins are a frigging god awful team.

We have 1.5 hitters, a starting rotation that is cooling down, and a bullpen that sucks. They have left a runner on 3rd base with less than 2 outs 40 times this month. FORTY TIMES. 3rd worst run differential in the league. They suck.

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#539 JohnBean42
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Marlins are a frigging god awful team.

We have 1.5 hitters, a starting rotation that is cooling down, and a bullpen that sucks. They have left a runner on 3rd base with less than 2 outs 40 times this month. FORTY TIMES. 3rd worst run differential in the league. They suck.

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Don't worry, you guys should win tomorrow. We got Jesse Chavez going, who absolutely self-destructed in his last (and first ever) start. Not feeling too confident. The top 4 in the order, since the change, has been outstanding. Bautista is hitting again, EE is having a great year (they've combined for 44 HR, most in baseball for 2 teammates), and Rasmus and Lawrie have completely turned it around. Especially Colby. Love how he's playing. If this pitching can get worked out, or at least keep us in games...with the offense we have, I feel pretty good. But it changes week it week it seems. 1.5 out right now though.
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Well, Youk is done as a Red Sox if Middlebrooks continues at his paste thankfully. One cancer out of the locker room.

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#541 JohnBean42
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Well, Youk is done as a Red Sox if Middlebrooks continues at his paste thankfully. One cancer out of the locker room.

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I think Youk will be gone this week. Sounds like the Sox are really pushing him out, and the White Sox and Pirates are interested.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Well, Youk is done as a Red Sox if Middlebrooks continues at his paste thankfully. One cancer out of the locker room.

JohnBean42

I think Youk will be gone this week. Sounds like the Sox are really pushing him out, and the White Sox and Pirates are interested.

Somebody said on ESPN comments they know a guy in the White Sox front office and says a deal is very close between the two teams. Obviously something to take with a grain of salt, but why would somebody lie about that?

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#543 JML897
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Youkilis officially going to the White Sox. Woo.
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#544 theone86
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Youkilis officially going to the White Sox. Woo. JML897

His average isn't exactly outstanding this season, but it's far better than Hudson's. You can't expect to compete with a hole in your lineup like that.

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#545 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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White Sox got the better of that trade by a huge margin, but as long as Youk is gone.

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#546 theone86
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White Sox got the better of that trade by a huge margin, but as long as Youk is gone.

sherman-tank1

Yeah, have fun with Zach Stewart:P. Lillibridge could turn out to be something for you, though, he's been one of those "next season" players for us. Not a ringing endorsement, but it worked out with the Yankees and Swish.

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#547 X360PS3AMD05
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Was there for both WS no? Stops hitting and people call him a "cancer", yep the Bo Sux Nation smear campaign is in full effect, just like every time before. The Sox didn't give up much, how were we not able to land him? Nice job Uncle Ned, this team is nosediving fast esp. without Kemp.
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#548 Master_Live
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When you leave Boston, you leave in bad terms.
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#549 Boston_Boyy
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Was there for both WS no? Stops hitting and people call him a "cancer", yep the Bo Sux Nation smear campaign is in full effect, just like every time before. The Sox didn't give up much, how were we not able to land him? Nice job Uncle Ned, this team is nosediving fast esp. without Kemp.X360PS3AMD05
I think he was on the roster for the first championship and appeared in some regular season games that season, but Mueller was the starting third basemen.

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#550 Namgis
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Back to Back for the Yanks. 6-0 in the 3rd. Making the park look like a little league field.