SF Giants wins 2nd World Series in 3 years, sweeps Detroit Tigers. Sandoval MVP.

And Ron Washington is a TERRIBLE manager. Why the f*ck did he bring in Joe Nathan and Matt Harrison over Sale, Weaver, etc etc? Oh yeah, because they are Texas players. Matt Harrison should not have even been an AS to begin with. 5 runs is a big lead, but once Harrison gave up 3 more, then everybody pretty much lost hope.

TonyDanzaFan

Maybe I just don't care since my team has to chance at the WS, so I don't really care if the AL lost.

Ron Washington is a decent manager, but that's not saying much. It's the AL.

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"][QUOTE="JohnBean42"] There were a lot of players that were upset about it. Pretty much all the media as well. And when you start saying thing to his family, that's where you cross the line.

The booing WAS all in good fun. But to be honest, it was a big much. You gotta let it go...is he really going to take him over Bautista, Trout or Fielder? No.

JohnBean42

Should have linked it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1254579-2012-all-star-game-fans-went-too-far-by-harassing-robinson-canos-family

Fans targeted his family. THAT is too far. Even if it was just a select few, it's still just...classless.

The booing..well, I do understand why they did it.

[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

[QUOTE="TonyDanzaFan"] What the f*ck are you talking about? All it was, was booing followed by Billy Butler chants. Who the f*ck said anything to his family? Jesus Christ, Cano didn't have a problem with it, so nobody else should. People need to stop being so damn whiny. TonyDanzaFan

Should have linked it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1254579-2012-all-star-game-fans-went-too-far-by-harassing-robinson-canos-family

Fans targeted his family. THAT is too far. Even if it was just a select few, it's still just...classless.

The booing..well, I do understand why they did it.

Ron Washington is a decent manager, but that's not saying much. It's the AL.

Oleg_Huzwog

Because double switches might as well be rocket science, right?

Jays lock up Edwin Encarnacion.

I think this signals they aren't ready to sell this season. EE was a big piece that could have been used for pitching/big prospects.

Similar to the Bautista deal. Had a great end to last year, after many ups and downs, never knowing where he was going to play, be it the minors, or on another team. EE was on waivers and AAA 2 years ago, Jose was never more than a bench player before coming to Toronto and working with Cito and Dwayne Murphy.

Only difference is Bautista had one great year, and signed off season, but part of that was cause he was under contract. EE is in the middle of a great year, but was going to be a FA, so that probably forces them to work faster, rather than wait.

I love the deal. Get him for 3, maybe 4 years, at less than he was going to get in FA, espeically if his 2nd half is as good as his first.

I've really become a fan of his and have loved seeing him change...not too long ago, fans were booing him non-stop and calling him E5 cause he just stunk on defense. Which mentally, hurt his hitting.

Also, a lot of talk here in Toronto about maybe giving up some big prospects or MLB talent for Justin Upton. Him in left or center, Rasmus opposite that, and Bautista in right. Has the potential to be one of the best, if not THE best, outfields in terms of defense and offense. Well, to me.

C'mon Nationals, be serious. You're not really shutting down Strasburg are you? You've got the best record in the National League, are in prime position to make a deep run in October... and you still plan on shelving your best pitcher in early September?!?

+1 Washington cost them that WS. I don't even know how he still has his job... So when Boston won the Series back in 1903 the attendance for the game was only 8K, about half of the usual because management had sold the tix that the "royal rooters" used to sit in while they were in Pittsburgh :lol: Did you know the original Baltimore Orioles actually moved to NY and eventually become the Yankees? ^ Toronto if i were you i would hold onto my pieces, don't make trades for the sake of trades, let's be real you guys are probably not winning it all. Ronald Belisario detained by immigration in Miami as he spent his break in Venezuela........:lol: What was this guy partying with nowX360PS3AMD05

C'mon Nationals, be serious. You're not really shutting down Strasburg are you? You've got the best record in the National League, are in prime position to make a deep run in October... and you still plan on shelving your best pitcher in early September?!?

Oleg_Huzwog

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

C'mon Nationals, be serious. You're not really shutting down Strasburg are you? You've got the best record in the National League, are in prime position to make a deep run in October... and you still plan on shelving your best pitcher in early September?!?

Boston_Boyy

Or maybe have him pitch every other scheduled start (once every 10 games) from now until the end of the season? Use a long reliever in a spot-start role for those games Strasburg would be skipping.

C'mon Nationals, be serious. You're not really shutting down Strasburg are you? You've got the best record in the National League, are in prime position to make a deep run in October... and you still plan on shelving your best pitcher in early September?!?

Oleg_Huzwog

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

C'mon Nationals, be serious. You're not really shutting down Strasburg are you? You've got the best record in the National League, are in prime position to make a deep run in October... and you still plan on shelving your best pitcher in early September?!?

TonyDanzaFan

Heh, of course it'd be Yankee fans with that sentiment. Teams with payrolls under $200 million don't have the luxury of assuming "many Octobers". When the opportunity is there, you need to take it. It's not like we're talking about a team 3 games back in the Wildcard; no, this is a team with the best record in the National League.

Marlins and Phillies have both significantly played below expectations this season, helping to put the Nationals in their current position. Can the Nationals afford to assume their downturns are going to extend for several years?

And how many of those "many Octobers" will even include Strasburg? Counting arbitration, the Nationals control him through 2016. As a Scott Boras client, it's reasonable to assume that he will not sign any extensions until free agency hits, which naturally means the Nats GM will have to seriously consider trade offers in 2015 (if he hopes to get any sort of decent compensation package). It's entirely possible that after this year, Strasburg will be with the team for only another 2.5 or 3 seasons.

Realistically, how many Octobers can the Nationals hope to play with Stasburg in the future? 2 if things go well?

Heh, of course it'd be Yankee fans with that sentiment. Teams with payrolls under $200 million don't have the luxury of assuming "many Octobers". When the opportunity is there, you need to take it. It's not like we're talking about a team 3 games back in the Wildcard; no, this is a team with the best record in the National League.

Marlins and Phillies have both significantly played below expectations this season, helping to put the Nationals in their current position. Can the Nationals afford to assume their downturns are going to extend for several years?

And how many of those "many Octobers" will even include Strasburg? Counting arbitration, the Nationals control him through 2016. As a Scott Boras client, it's reasonable to assume that he will not sign any extensions until free agency hits, which naturally means the Nats GM will have to seriously consider trade offers in 2015 (if he hopes to get any sort of decent compensation package). It's entirely possible that after this year, Strasburg will be with the team for only another 2.5 or 3 seasons.

Realistically, how many Octobers can the Nationals hope to play with Stasburg in the future? 2 if things go well?

Oleg_Huzwog

The surgery was in 2010. It's been two years. He returned to pitch in 2011.

Nobody's asking for 130 pitch starts like the Cubs did with Prior, nor is anyone asking for 200+ innings. There are ways of reducing his workload without completely cutting him off right when he's needed the most.

The surgery was in 2010. It's been two years. He returned to pitch in 2011.

Nobody's asking for 130 pitch starts like the Cubs did with Prior, nor is anyone asking for 200+ innings. There are ways of reducing his workload without completely cutting him off right when he's needed the most.

Oleg_Huzwog

How about bringing up Travis Snyder, i see he's hitting .316/.396/.557 in AAA. X360PS3AMD05

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I still don't understand why they spent so much on Papelbon. Actually, I'll never understand why teams spend so much on "closers".

But that's a lot of money spent on just a handful of guys. Most of whom are/were hurt, old or both.

Hamels is going to hit the jackpot this winter.Master_Live

[QUOTE="Master_Live"]Hamels is going to hit the jackpot this winter.TonyDanzaFan

Regarding the topic, I think Detroit stays hot and gets into the playoffs, Miami will get better, but no playoffs, and Arizona will be a lot better...even if it hasn't shown. And the Reds start torun away with the NL Central And I HOPE the Jays will be better than .500 and play some meaningful September baseball.

Not in the question, but teams that fall, in my opinion, are the Orioles, Mets, Pirates, Indians and Tampa. And I think the Cubs and Phills sell off a lot, and get worse.

What pitcher from the Cubs would you rather have right now, if you could trade? Garza, who is more expensive, but if you're an AL team, he's pitched well in the AL East, and under contro until 2014l.

Or Ryan Dempster, who has been on of the best pitchers in baseball, and would be cheaper. But he is older and a FA at the end of the season. I guess it all depends on your teams situation. Both are great options though, if the price is right.

Regarding the topic, I think Detroit stays hot and gets into the playoffs, Miami will get better, but no playoffs, and Arizona will be a lot better...even if it hasn't shown. And the Reds start torun away with the NL Central And I HOPE the Jays will be better than .500 and play some meaningful September baseball.

Not in the question, but teams that fall, in my opinion, are the Orioles, Mets, Pirates, Indians and Tampa. And I think the Cubs and Phills sell off a lot, and get worse.

What pitcher from the Cubs would you rather have right now, if you could trade? Garza, who is more expensive, but if you're an AL team, he's pitched well in the AL East, and under contro until 2014l.

Or Ryan Dempster, who has been on of the best pitchers in baseball, and would be cheaper. But he is older and a FA at the end of the season. I guess it all depends on your teams situation. Both are great options though, if the price is right.

JohnBean42

Well...if Jose's injury is long term, there goes our season IMO.

In regards to the latest poll, Tigers are only 2.5 games back, and would actually claim one of the Wildcard spots if the season ended today. So I guess you have to pick them by default?

Bautista on the 15 day DL. Anthony Gose called up.

http://www.tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=400809

I wanted to see Gose, but not under this circumstance. Kinda surprised Snider not here..but Gose has played a bit better.

Royals DFA Jonathan Sanchez.

What a bad trade that was for KC.

Mariners have scored 229 runs on the road. That's the most in the Majors. Yeah, seriously.

They've also scored 126 at home. That's the fewest.

Well...if Jose's injury is long term, there goes our season IMO.

JohnBean42

The Jays' season has been done for a while now.

[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

Well...if Jose's injury is long term, there goes our season IMO.

TonyDanzaFan

The Jays' season has been done for a while now.

[QUOTE="JohnBean42"]

Well...if Jose's injury is long term, there goes our season IMO.

TonyDanzaFan

The Jays' season has been done for a while now.

Man poor Royals, Cabrera (who he was traded straight up for) is hitting .351/.391/,514 in San Francisco right now.

That Lawrie spill was nasty. Jays got to be jinxed.

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*Update - X-Rays negatives. Calf contusion. Good to hear.

Yup, we're cursed. Just a contusion, but still. Ridiculous.

Suddenly things may be looking up for the sox. Crawford, Ellsbury, Pedroia, Middlebrooks, and Bucholtz are back with mostly success. Aaron Cook has been looking good since coming back in mid-June, Gonzalez and Ross have been heating up and hitting for power, while Ciriaco has continued to play well after breaking out in the pre-all star Yankees series. Of couse, Ortiz's injury DL stint has put a bit of a dampler on all of this, but from all accounts it should be nothing more than a 15-day stint.

Suddenly things may be looking up for the sox. Crawford, Ellsbury, Pedroia, Middlebrooks, and Bucholtz are back with mostly success. Aaron Cook has been looking good since coming back in mid-June, Gonzalez and Ross have been heating up and hitting for power, while Ciriaco has continued to play well after breaking out in the pre-all star Yankees series. Of couse, Ortiz's injury DL stint has put a bit of a dampler on all of this, but from all accounts it should be nothing more than a 15-day stint.

Boston_Boyy

Travis Snider pulled from AAA after hitting a HR in the 2nd inning tonight. It was a bat around inning, and was pulled when he came up again in the inning.

In (maybe) related news...Aubrey Huff was pulled in the 3rd in his rehab game (I think rehab). Now I've read and heard a lot of speculation Brandon Belt could be on the block. Snider may need a chance of scenery, and the Jays have a thing for underachieving players who have fallen out of favor (Escobar, Rasmus, and Morrow underachieved, but no doghouse).

I heard Escobar would be moved, as they aren't happy with Crawford or..the other guy in SF, and we have Hechavarria ready and waiting. But Snider could make sense.

Probably looking way too much into it, and either (somehow) an injury, or a callup.

The Braves are up 10-9 on the Nationals in the 9th. They were down 9-0 earlier in the game. Wow.

edit: AND THEN BLEW IT LOL.

Braves win 11-10. Game of the year for Atlanta.

I will love the day when we get rid of Beckett. Him and Lester have been screwing us up the most.