Alienware, why the hate?

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#1 TommyBarban
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Question for the master race people and warlocks all around, why the hate against Alienware? I don't have one but I would like to know why people who own an Alienware PC get treated like manure on GS.

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#2 rjdofu
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Overprice.
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#3 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Mostly because its so overpriced & pre-built.
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Overprice.rjdofu

This !

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not sure but if I remember correctly I think people rip on them for having overpriced products
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#6 bobbetybob
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Their desktops are overpriced but their laptops and the X51 aren't too bad (at least not here in the UK) considering what's in them.
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Their desktops are overpriced but their laptops and the X51 aren't too bad (at least not here in the UK) considering what's in them. bobbetybob
Their laptops are overpriced as hell considering what sager/msi/lenovo offers, specwise.
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I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their together own custom machine. I think seed of the contempt lays there.

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#9 campzor
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overpriced and pre-built
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I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their own custome machine. I think a seed of the contempt lays there.

TommyBarban
Its mainly price, but pre-built is part of it (and hence the cost)
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#11 nextgenjoke
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Overprice.rjdofu
Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.
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#12 Heil68
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their own custome machine. I think a seed of the contempt lays there.

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Its mainly price, but pre-built is part of it (and hence the cost)

You can swap out parts if you want.
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#13 rjdofu
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I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their together own custom machine. I think seed of the contempt lays there.

TommyBarban
Laptop can be prebuilt while still a bang for your buck, sample: idea pad y580 & y500. Still, sager is still way better in term of value. Desktop prebuilt = lol.
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I think everyone with a brain knows it's better to build a PC rather than buy an Alienware PC.
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#17 AmnesiaHaze
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i have a alien laptop ond love it, the next one will be a alien too cause the illuminated keyboard is so good, cant go back to regular laptop anymore after being spoiled

haters gonna hate

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Many people can't pay for it. If I were super rich I would have an Alienware PC. It would look rilly cool run rilly fast and be rilly expensive but who cares? I wouldn't have to think much about configuration and such. Just get an awesome looking Alienware and I'm set.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Overprice.nextgenjoke
Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.

1. PS3 was overpriced as fvck, nobody denies that. 2. It launched 7 years ago. 3. You don't know sh!t about the next ps4/xbox720 real spec, neither does anyone of us. 4. lol @ GTX555
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#20 rjdofu
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i have a alien laptop ond love it, the next one will be a alien too cause the illuminated keyboard is so good, cant go back to regular laptop anymore after being spoiled

haters gonna hate

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Illuminated keyboard isn't exclusive to alienware :|.
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#21 nextgenjoke
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anyone who'd take ps4 or 720 over a alienware x51 is kinda clueless in my opinion.

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#22 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

i have a alien laptop ond love it, the next one will be a alien too cause the illuminated keyboard is so good, cant go back to regular laptop anymore after being spoiled

haters gonna hate

rjdofu
Illuminated keyboard isn't exclusive to alienware :|.

I have an illuminated laptop keyboard on my desktop <3
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#23 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="nextgenjoke"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]Overprice.rjdofu
Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.

1. PS3 was overpriced as fvck, nobody denies that. 2. It launched 7 years ago. 3. You don't know sh!t about the next ps4/xbox720 real spec, neither does anyone of us. 4. lol @ GTX555

Isn't that a 660?
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

i have a alien laptop ond love it, the next one will be a alien too cause the illuminated keyboard is so good, cant go back to regular laptop anymore after being spoiled

haters gonna hate

KungfuKitten
Illuminated keyboard isn't exclusive to alienware :|.

I have an illuminated laptop keyboard on my desktop <3

where did i say its exclusive ? its not just the keyboard but i like the design of that thing too , and i can get any alienware products with a nice discount
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#25 nextgenjoke
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see when ps3/ps4 online dies no more online lol pc like alienware x51 online multiplayer never dies.

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#26 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Illuminated keyboard isn't exclusive to alienware :|.AmnesiaHaze
I have an illuminated laptop keyboard on my desktop <3

where did i say its exclusive ? its not just the keyboard but i like the design of that thing too , and i can get any alienware products with a nice discount

:o How do you get a discount?

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-Overpriced -Pre-built Hermits don't like pre-built stuff. They'll tell you to gtfo and customize a computer.
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[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]-Overpriced -Pre-built Hermits don't like pre-built stuff. They'll tell you to gtfo and customize a computer.

Aren't alienware prebuilts OK though? I mean, they tend to use good manufacturers... I dunno about their cases and cooling tho.
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#29 AmnesiaHaze
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[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] I have an illuminated laptop keyboard on my desktop <3KungfuKitten

where did i say its exclusive ? its not just the keyboard but i like the design of that thing too , and i can get any alienware products with a nice discount

:o How do you get a discount?

the company i work for has a employee purchase program deal with alienware
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.

1. PS3 was overpriced as fvck, nobody denies that. 2. It launched 7 years ago. 3. You don't know sh!t about the next ps4/xbox720 real spec, neither does anyone of us. 4. lol @ GTX555

Isn't that a 660?

http://www.dell.com/au/p/alienware-x51/pd It's quite confusing, "Graphics for greatness. Alienware X51 lets you take in every detail with graphics options, including the 1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 555 discrete graphics card.", but then tech spec show "1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 545; 1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660" Either way $1300AUD, fvck no!
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]-Overpriced -Pre-built Hermits don't like pre-built stuff. They'll tell you to gtfo and customize a computer.

Aren't alienware prebuilts OK though? I mean, they tend to use good manufacturers... I dunno about their cases and cooling tho.

I would say they're okay but others would say something along the lines of: You can get a 20x better computer for the price of an alienware of you customized it yourself That is the problem with most pre-built computers.
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#32 TommyBarban
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-Overpriced -Pre-built Hermits don't like pre-built stuff. They'll tell you to gtfo and customize a computer.shadowchronicle

That's what I thought, the tech savvy part of the hermit is what empowers him. The hermits do not want to be associated with a new breed of hybrid folk, pc gamers with console ethics.

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Same reason they look down on Mac gamers - they're "other", and therefore must be inferior.
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#34 BlbecekBobecek
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Overprice.nextgenjoke
Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.

 

The hardware in PS4 is WAY better than what x51 has.

 

GPU comparison (x51 has GeForce 640 GT)

http://www.hwcompare.com/12820/geforce-gt-640-ddr3-vs-radeon-hd-7850/

 

Not to mention PS4 will have GPU more powerful than 7850 that is in the comparison.

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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="nextgenjoke"] Not when ps3 was 599$ lol alienware x51 is 699$ and a hell of alot better than ps4 or xbox720.faizan_faizan
1. PS3 was overpriced as fvck, nobody denies that. 2. It launched 7 years ago. 3. You don't know sh!t about the next ps4/xbox720 real spec, neither does anyone of us. 4. lol @ GTX555

Isn't that a 660?

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

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#36 faizan_faizan
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Not to mention PS4 will have GPU more powerful than 7850 that is in the comparison.BlbecekBobecek
Few more CUs and it's clocked at a lower speed.
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] 1. PS3 was overpriced as fvck, nobody denies that. 2. It launched 7 years ago. 3. You don't know sh!t about the next ps4/xbox720 real spec, neither does anyone of us. 4. lol @ GTX555BlbecekBobecek

Isn't that a 660?

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx
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[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]-Overpriced -Pre-built Hermits don't like pre-built stuff. They'll tell you to gtfo and customize a computer.TommyBarban

That's what I thought, the tech savvy part of the hermit is what empowers him. The hermits do not want to be associated with a new breed of hybrid folk, pc gamers with console ethics.

Not true. You don't have to be "tech savvy" to build your own PC. Unless watching a youtube video and following some fairly basic instructions is tech savvy. Being able to change a wheel on a car doesn't mean I know anything about how a car works. I realise your topic is an attempted stealth troll on PC gamers, but its simply this. For the price of a alienware comp (which don't get me wrong are good for gaming) you could build yourself an absolute monster of a desktop. Thats all there is to it, nothing more.
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Same reason they look down on Mac gamers - they're "other", and therefore must be inferior.lowe0

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#40 AcidThunder
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Isn't that a 660?faizan_faizan

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

the lower end versions come with the 640 ($699) while the higher end ones come with 660 ($1149)
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Same reason they look down on Mac gamers - they're "other", and therefore must be inferior.lowe0
Mac gamers? Does not compute. :P
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[QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Isn't that a 660?faizan_faizan

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

"Equipped with the new NVIDIA® GT 640" "New 1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 video card with 330W PSU" Which one should I believe?
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They are garbage. Spent $2000 on mine and lasted two years. Keys fell off the keyboard, constant overheating, constant blue screen, harddrive issues, and for all the power it had my cheap Asus booted faster and ran smoother. Even the touchpad was a piece of crap. The only thing that the Alienware had that was good was the screen. It's a complete rip off.

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Not to mention PS4 will have GPU more powerful than 7850 that is in the comparison.BlbecekBobecek
HD7850: 1.76 TFLOPS, Engine Clock 860Mhz, 16 Compute Units (1024 Stream Processors), 64 Texture Units , 2/4GB GDDR5 with 153.6GB/s memory bandwidth PS4 GPU: 1.84 TFLOPS, Engine Clock 800Mhz, 18 Compute Units (1154 Stream Processors), 72 Texture Units , 8GB GDDR5 with 176.0GB/s memory bandwidth (shared with CPU) HD7870: 2.56 TFLOPS, Engine Clock 1000Mhz, 20 Compute Units (1280 Stream Processors) , 80 Texture Units , 2/4GB GDDR5 with 153.6GB/s memory bandwidth HD7950: 3.05 TFLOPS, Engine Clock 850Mhz, 28 Compute Units (1792 Stream Processors) , 112 Texture Units , 3GB GDDR5 with 240.0GB/s memory bandwidth HD7970: 4.10 TFLOPS, Engine Clock 1000Mhz, 32 Compute Units (2048 Stream Processors) , 128 Texture Units , 3/6GB GDDR5 with 288.0GB/s memory bandwidth.
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#45 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

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Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

the lower end versions come with the 640 ($699) while the higher end ones come with 660 ($1149)

That just stupidly misleading.
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

rjdofu
Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

"Equipped with the new NVIDIA® GT 640" "New 1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 video card with 330W PSU" Which one should I believe?

There's 4 default configurations for it, 2 come with 640's, the other 2 come with 660's http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51/pd.aspx
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#47 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="BlbecekBobecek"]

 

Nope x51 actually has GT 640

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dpcwxy1&model_id=alienware-x51&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19

rjdofu
Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

"Equipped with the new NVIDIA® GT 640" "New 1.5GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 video card with 330W PSU" Which one should I believe?

LOL, Forget it, It's a waste of time.
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="AcidThunder"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Alienware site is stupid, It says 660 here. http://www.alienware.com/Landings/desktops.aspx

the lower end versions come with the 640 ($699) while the higher end ones come with 660 ($1149)

That just stupidly misleading.

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-x51/pd.aspx this page gives a better idea. the first page is just advertising.
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The main reason that PC gamers have a negative attitude towards anyone who buys pre builts is because ever since it's inception in the 80's, "true" PC gaming (Windows/DOS) has been about assembling your hardware and using your computer and technical skills to get the very best experience. With prebuilts, this isn't necessary, and so you get these people flooding the community who start talking about computers yet have no idea how they work or what is inside their PC's. As a tech guy, you have no idea how infuriating it is having someone say their computer is the best because it's alienware and the chump spent 2k on it. Alienware fans are as ignorant and oblivious as Apple drones.
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#50 jun_aka_pekto
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I don't hate the brand. I wouldn't buy one. But, if I got one as a gift, I'd be delighted.