Alienware, why the hate?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Those attributes of a product don't say anything about the person using it, though.lowe0

At this point you have glued the goal posts to your ears and are running around a large field.

You asked for proof that consoles are cheaper, I provided you with it. 

You can either accept reality or reject it, peasant.

By some reason, you don´t ask consolites for proof when they call us hermits.

lowe, I will prove you that consolites are peasants if you provide me evidence that PC gamers are hermits.

jhonMalcovich

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

lowe, I will prove you that consolites are peasants if you provide me evidence that PC gamers are hermits.

lowe0

then you should go argue after every person who uses a fanboy term such as hermit, cow, sheep, lemming. They are all no different than using console peasant.  It's pretty obvious you are biased.  They're just fanboy terms, not needed for serious debate

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

At this point you have glued the goal posts to your ears and are running around a large field.

You asked for proof that consoles are cheaper, I provided you with it. 

You can either accept reality or reject it, peasant.

jhonMalcovich

By some reason, you don´t ask consolites for proof when they call us hermits.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Not at all. I didn't ask for proof that consoles are cheaper; I asked for proof that using a console is a conclusive determinant of one's financial status.lowe0

By some reason, you don´t ask consolites for proof when they call us hermits.

Then peasant is an established nickname put by the PC community.

This image is dated from 2008 

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

By some reason, you don´t ask consolites for proof when they call us hermits.

jhonMalcovich

Then peasant is an establish nickname by PC community.

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I don't bother, because it's on the list of approved nicknames, per the forum rules. I don't care for any of the platform nicknames really, but those are the rules.lowe0

Then peasant is an establish nickname by PC community.

But the rules don´t prohibit it either. The nickname peasant was being used for many years. If you don´t like some slang, don´t use it, but you can´t prohibit its use for other people.

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Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX  LGA2011 Motherboard  ($188.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Mushkin Silverline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($159.19 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: OCZ Agility 4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($351.90 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($449.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($449.99 @ Newegg) 

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FINAL PRICE- $ 2497.54

You still want Alienware? :lol:

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Then peasant is an establish nickname by PC community.

jhonMalcovich

But the rules don´t prohibit it either. The nickname peasant was being used for many years. If you don´t like some slang, don´t not use it, but you can´t prohibit its use for other people.

Alienware Desktop:

PROCESSOR- 2nd Generation Intel® Core i7-3930K (12M Cache, Overclocked up to 4.1 GHz)

HARDDRIVE- 512GB SSD 6Gb/s MAIN + 1TB 7200RPM Storage

OPTICAL DRIVE- Single Drive: 24X CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) w/double layer write capability

OPERATING SYSTEM- Windows® 7 Professional, 64Bit, English

MEMORY- 32GB (4 X 8GB) Quad Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz

VIDEO CARD- Dual 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 680 NVIDIA SLI®

SOUND CARD- Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio

FINAL PRICE- $ 4,024.00 

 

Custom PC:

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor  ($429.99 @ Microcenter) 

Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme4 ATX  LGA2011 Motherboard  ($188.99 @ Amazon) 

Memory: Mushkin Silverline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($159.19 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.99 @ NCIX US) 

Storage: OCZ Agility 4 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk  ($351.90 @ NCIX US) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($449.99 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI)  ($449.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: NZXT Phantom (Black) ATX Full Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic 850W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply  ($139.64 @ Newegg) 

Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer  ($17.89 @ Outlet PC) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)

FINAL PRICE- $ 2497.54

You still want Alienware? :lol:

FashionFreak

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Link to the rules post showing that it's mod approved?lowe0

But the rules don´t prohibit it either. The nickname peasant was being used for many years. If you don´t like some slang, don´t not use it, but you can´t prohibit its use for other people.

And he'll keep using it, as will the rest of the internet. So why argue about it?

Arguing about a freaking nickname. Really? rjdofu

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]Arguing about a freaking nickname. Really? lowe0

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

But the rules don´t prohibit it either. The nickname peasant was being used for many years. If you don´t like some slang, don´t not use it, but you can´t prohibit its use for other people.

lostrib

And he'll keep using it, as will the rest of the internet. So why argue about it?

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]Arguing about a freaking nickname. Really? rjdofu

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I'm not prohibiting its use, I'm questioning its validity. If you can't defend why you should be able to use it, that's not my problem.lowe0

And he'll keep using it, as will the rest of the internet. So why argue about it?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] I'm not prohibiting its use, I'm questioning its validity. If you can't defend why you should be able to use it, that's not my problem.lowe0

And he'll keep using it, as will the rest of the internet. So why argue about it?

It's useless waste of time. It's a simple internet meme, based off a youtube video game review.  It's not serious, and all you are doing is derailing the actual thread, which is all you do even though you always tell people to stick to the point. All you do is go off point on petty crap

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="lowe0"] If it's used here, it's fair game to be argued against.lowe0

Actually, it technically is.  and you started it

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

And he'll keep using it, as will the rest of the internet. So why argue about it?

rjdofu

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Hey, if you guys want to keep advancing the same unsubstantiated argument, feel free. Why wouldn't I keep swinging at such easy pitches?lowe0

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Link to the rules post showing that it's mod approved?lowe0

But the rules don´t prohibit it either. The nickname peasant was being used for many years. If you don´t like some slang, don´t not use it, but you can´t prohibit its use for other people.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] You started the whole thing while it's totally unnecessary :|.lostrib

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] If the peasant argument is unnecessary, then why do I keep seeing it?lowe0

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] If the peasant argument is unnecessary, then why do I keep seeing it?lowe0

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their own custome machine. I think a seed of the contempt lays there.

blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

clyde46

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their own custome machine. I think a seed of the contempt lays there.

jwsoul

The parts in most custom built PC's have 2-3 year warranties anyways

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Really? you see arguments about it? It's unnecessary to the topic at hand

rjdofu

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Its mainly price, but pre-built is part of it (and hence the cost)lostrib

The parts in most custom built PC's have 2-3 year warranties anyways

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

I read pre-built, I think this is a big one. Alienware owners are looked at as lazy (wannabe) pc gamers who would rather get ripped of than piece their own custome machine. I think a seed of the contempt lays there.

jwsoul

So your point basically is just being lazy and instead of trying to identify the problem by yourself, you push it to others. Internet are free, it's not that hard to search (or ask) for solution, gain some knowledge in the middle and know how to avoid it later. But you probably don't care about any of that anyway.

Every part of PC comes with a warranty btw.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The post I quoted was about how Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware. How is "PC gamers shouldn't look down on console gamers with less expensive hardware" not relevant to that?lowe0

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

Its a windows PC.  So no issues with me.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Pre Built = Warrenty = 2 years standard on my Chillblast PC! Sorry but the cost difference is becoming more and more minimal! IGN recently did an article on the Pro's and Con's of each and building your own to have one component go wrong is just a massive ball ache. Also i could build a PC but when it comes to identifying issues you need a lot fo patience and understanding of how and why the bits you slotted in have stopped working. Pre Built done correctly is easily as good as making your own. jwsoul

The parts in most custom built PC's have 2-3 year warranties anyways

All you said was that prebuilt's come with warranty, but PC components come with warranties anyways

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] So if they do have some technical knowledge, it makes looking down on others okay? If I have a deeper technical education than you and a more expensive PC, would you think it was right of me to look down on you?

lowe0

Considering how you argue, and your greater than thou attitude, yes you're an elitist

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The post I quoted was about how Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware. How is "PC gamers shouldn't look down on console gamers with less expensive hardware" not relevant to that?lowe0

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The post I quoted was about how Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware. How is "PC gamers shouldn't look down on console gamers with less expensive hardware" not relevant to that?lowe0

Ey, if you wanna quote at least quote it right. I said Alienware owners shouldn't look down on other PC gamers with less expensive hardware while they themselves lack knowledge about the matter.

You ignoring half of my argument and go cry about another half just proves my point previously.

If an Alienware owner had any technical knowledge, he woudn't have an Alienware. Alienware owners with technical knowledge who look down on other PC owners don't exist.

Lowe's tangents are getting more ball-numbingly boring and worthless than ever.  Hard to wrap my head around how they could get lower than they already were

[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Its mainly price, but pre-built is part of it (and hence the cost)rjdofu

So your point basically is just being lazy and instead of trying to identify the problem by yourself, you push it to others. Internet are free, it's not that hard to search (or ask) for solution, gain some knowledge in the middle and know how to avoid it later. But you probably don't care about any of that anyway.

Every part of PC comes with a warranty btw.

[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

The parts in most custom built PC's have 2-3 year warranties anyways

lostrib

All you said was that prebuilt's come with warranty, but PC components come with warranties anyways

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]
Well you probably would since you're an elitist 

lostrib

Considering how you argue, and your greater than thou attitude, yes you're an elitist

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Pre Built = Warrenty = 2 years standard on my Chillblast PC! Sorry but the cost difference is becoming more and more minimal! IGN recently did an article on the Pro's and Con's of each and building your own to have one component go wrong is just a massive ball ache. Also i could build a PC but when it comes to identifying issues you need a lot fo patience and understanding of how and why the bits you slotted in have stopped working. Pre Built done correctly is easily as good as making your own. jwsoul

So your point basically is just being lazy and instead of trying to identify the problem by yourself, you push it to others. Internet are free, it's not that hard to search (or ask) for solution, gain some knowledge in the middle and know how to avoid it later. But you probably don't care about any of that anyway.

Every part of PC comes with a warranty btw.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Something goes wrong you have to figure out which component it is then remove it then send it to the manufacturer in question. My PC is not an Alienware either its made by a UK company called Chillblast and the price was decent enough to justify. Its not hard to make your own but it has risks. rjdofu

All you said was that prebuilt's come with warranty, but PC components come with warranties anyways

Outside of apple, most customer services are just call centers which try to talk to you about finding the problem, but they're really not much better than just googling the problem.  I would say the one benefit, is that once they find the problem they may send a service tech to replace the part for you

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Something goes wrong you have to figure out which component it is then remove it then send it to the manufacturer in question. My PC is not an Alienware either its made by a UK company called Chillblast and the price was decent enough to justify. Its not hard to make your own but it has risks. rjdofu

All you said was that prebuilt's come with warranty, but PC components come with warranties anyways

Yes in a fashion that's correct. I have enough pass times to fill my time. Learn anything? U have a point its healthy to learn but i have an inbuilt semi educated knowledge anyway. If it came to it like when ive fixed my Raid Zero or my ram or various other tid bits i do it. I just dont want the hassel to be honest if it really goes **** up someone else can deal with it.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] The guy arguing in favor of treating others respectfully is an elitist?lowe0

Considering how you argue, and your greater than thou attitude, yes you're an elitist

They're unnecessary arguments that you feel the need to make so that you can appear better than others.  To be honest it just makes you look petty.  And stop saying it's a debate forum

[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="rjdofu"]

So your point basically is just being lazy and instead of trying to identify the problem by yourself, you push it to others. Internet are free, it's not that hard to search (or ask) for solution, gain some knowledge in the middle and know how to avoid it later. But you probably don't care about any of that anyway.

Every part of PC comes with a warranty btw.

rjdofu

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Considering how you argue, and your greater than thou attitude, yes you're an elitist

lostrib

They're unnecessary arguments that you feel the need to make so that you can appear better than others.  To be honest it just makes you look petty.  And stop saying it's a debate forum

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Where have I argued that I'm better than anyone else? I'm only arguing about statements being correct or incorrect.lowe0

They're unnecessary arguments that you feel the need to make so that you can appear better than others.  To be honest it just makes you look petty.  And stop saying it's a debate forum

No it's not, and especially not when you derail threads over miniscule issues