And so it begins....Nintendo confirms Wii U launch games will run at 720p *sigh*

If you want the best graphics, get a PC. If you want Mario, Zelda, colors, interesting titles and creativity, get a Nintendo console. Gameplay still trumps high-end graphics, and as long as the games are HD and run smoothly, it shouldn't matter much.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="MicrosoftRules"]

It really won't be that big of a deal for me as I don't play on a big screen. I'm actually against big screens for gaming as I have to move my head left and right to see the entire screen, messes me up in multiplayer.

MicrosoftRules

No, it's at just the right distance and level to look exactly at the screen and see detail without moving my head.

Edit: By big screen I mean 5 feet across and 5 feet high, that's what my brother games on. I'm not going to sit across the room or 15 feet away just to see everything. I'm about as far away from my screen as a computer screen.

WiiU will still be the first true HD console.

WiiU will still be the first true HD console.

Icarian

what? Were you expecting 1080p? :|

Harisemo

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="campzor"] because 600p and 30fps is expected from the current generation (6-7 year old consoles) not $300-400 next generation consoles in 2012.Eponique

Fix'd. :cool:

But in all seriousness, lol @ the damage controll "if you want graphics buy a PC" :lol:

This is Nintendo for christ's sake people; We like them(if you do anyway) for their gameplay and their IPs, not for their graphics(necessarily). Why is everybody butthurt about Nintendo not trying to break your bank with a 500$ console that would break Nintendo's design philosophy? Sheesh. If I can give high praise to Nintendo about something, it's that they're consistent and never back down from their original design philosophy.

I have my PC if I want to see the best graphic's out there. When it comes to Nintendo I just want the creativity and enjoyment I get out of their games.

Really just need to change this board to "Graphic Wars".

Bladebri

I think many of you are too forgiving in Nintendo and their out of touch with modern day technology ways

To be fair Nintendo do not have the developers who know how to make graphically intense games with the exception of possibly Retro, and most of their franchises are made in a simplisitic style. How much power do you need to make Mario? Look at the new Pikmin. It is just an HD Gamecube game. Then you have New Super Mario Wii 2 or whatever the hell it is called. They could of put that on the DS easily. In fact, I am betting it is just unused levels from the last 2 Mario games.

Actually, Ill be buying PS4 and 720 with a Southern Islands card :cool:StrongDeadlift

PS4 = $700, Resistance 6 running at 850p and 45fps *le gasp*

Top-of-the-line PC = $500.

That should simplify the purchasing decision for most graphics whores but I still see X360 graphics threads these days so maybe not lol

On the bright side it's good to see nintendo games finally running in HD resolution.

However, 720p is disappointing in 2012 and during the Wii Us lifetime we will most likely see TVs that go above 1080p...

Oh come on, 720p or 1080p, it's not that much of a difference.LustForSoul

Thats like saying 480p or 720p is not much of a difference :?

I don't really care, however it doesn't personally bother me anyway, my HDTV is 720p.SaltyMeatballs

At least it's in HD this time unlike the Wii, while I am a bit dissapointed with the Wii U's power, I will still pick one up day 1. It's all about the games and Nintendo makes the best 1st party games in the industry, followed by Sony. No one can deny this.

Wii U and PS4 are my choices for next gen, don't know about the next Xbox and I don't care. They need to step up and offer more than just yearly milkage of Halo, Gears, and Forza. I want more vairtey and free online and relibal hardware. Basically I want it to be like a PS3.

The only thing you got right was the Dreamcast part.

Wii won this gen by a landslide without even having HD capability. There is no reason to believe that Wii U wont do the same next gen. The games wont look quite as good, but they will look good none the less...just like most of this gen's games that run 720p.

Vita hasnt been out long enough to be a fail. 3DS, PS3, 360...all sucked wind their first year. 360's first year head start was half the sales its been doing in an average year. PS3 even less as far as gamers go. Most consoles/handhelds need a year to get their library built up.

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

WiiU will still be the first true HD console.

Fizzman

Yes it is. 720p is the lowest resolution for HD, but it is still HD.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]I don't really care, however it doesn't personally bother me anyway, my HDTV is 720p.lightleggy

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

what? Were you expecting 1080p? :|

TecmoGirl

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

hahaha no, did you really expect a console that will likely cost same as current gen 360/PS3 to output games like Batman AC at 1080p?

This is Nintendo for christ's sake people; We like them(if you do anyway) for their gameplay and their IPs, not for their graphics(necessarily). Why is everybody butthurt about Nintendo not trying to break your bank with a 500$ console that would break Nintendo's design philosophy? Sheesh. If I can give high praise to Nintendo about something, it's that they're consistent and never back down from their original design philosophy.

EMT0

Y u think it needs to be 500$ to be up to date. Here's nintendo engineers hard at work getting that tech in wii u, making sure youll get your 300$ worth

[QUOTE="Fizzman"][QUOTE="Icarian"]

WiiU will still be the first true HD console.

Icarian

Yes it is. 720p is the lowest resolution for HD, but it is still HD.

Even if 720p was "true HD" by your definition, it still wouldn't make the Wii-U the first "true" HD console. The 360 and PS3 already achieved that. And there are even a small number of 1080p games on the HD twins.

Oh lord. Please MS/Sony, I don't wanna be a hermit.

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"] 720p isn't true HD. Tikeio

Yes it is. 720p is the lowest resolution for HD, but it is still HD.

Even if 720p was "true HD" by your definition, it still wouldn't make the Wii-U the first "true" HD console. The 360 and PS3 already achieved that. And there are even a small number of 1080p games on the HD twins.

Yeah, but most games on 360 and PS3 aren't HD. If all games on WiiU at least have 720p, then I'd say it is the first console that does HD all the time.

Edit: That is what I meant by that "true HD."

At least it's in HD this time unlike the Wii, while I am a bit dissapointed with the Wii U's power, I will still pick one up day 1. It's all about the games and Nintendo makes the best 1st party games in the industry, followed by Sony. No one can deny this.

Wii U and PS4 are my choices for next gen, don't know about the next Xbox and I don't care. They need to step up and offer more than just yearly milkage of Halo, Gears, and Forza. I want more vairtey and free online and relibal hardware. Basically I want it to be like a PS3.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

Yes it is. 720p is the lowest resolution for HD, but it is still HD.

Icarian

Even if 720p was "true HD" by your definition, it still wouldn't make the Wii-U the first "true" HD console. The 360 and PS3 already achieved that. And there are even a small number of 1080p games on the HD twins.

Yeah, but most games on 360 and PS3 aren't HD. If all games on WiiU at least have 720p, then I'd say it is the first console that does HD all the time.

Edit: That is what I meant by that "true HD."

[QUOTE="Icarian"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"] 720p isn't true HD. Tikeio

Yes it is. 720p is the lowest resolution for HD, but it is still HD.

Even if 720p was "true HD" by your definition, it still wouldn't make the Wii-U the first "true" HD console. The 360 and PS3 already achieved that. And there are even a small number of 1080p games on the HD twins.

Anybody who thinks that next-gen console games will be running at 1080p is fooling themselves. It's a damn waste on your typical HDTV set. Unless the screen is 2 feet from your nose, the average gamer wouldn't really notice the difference between a 720p game with good AA an a 1080p game.

Don't waste the limited power of a console on massive resolutions. You cannot upgrade consoles. Use what you have wisely.

Seriously? is this what nintendo fanboys will say to excuse the mediocrity of their "next gen" console?lightleggy

Nintendo fanboy? Last Nintendo console I owned was NES.:P I don't like their games.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

what? Were you expecting 1080p? :|

Harisemo

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

hahaha no, did you really expect a console that will likely cost same as current gen 360/PS3 to output games like Batman AC at 1080p?

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

what? Were you expecting 1080p? :|

Harisemo

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

hahaha no, did you really expect a console that will likely cost same as current gen 360/PS3 to output games like Batman AC at 1080p?

lol! Not Batman specifically, but honestly yes -- I expected plenty of 1080p games at launch considering how late it is coming into this gen(or being the first "next gen console" anyways). Especially with all the hype of how it was going to be a great deal more powerful than the two current gen consoles beforehand. :P

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

TecmoGirl

hahaha no, did you really expect a console that will likely cost same as current gen 360/PS3 to output games like Batman AC at 1080p?

lol! Not Batman specifically, but honestly yes -- I expected plenty of 1080p games at launch considering how late it is coming into this gen(or being the first "next gen console" anyways). Especially with all the hype of how it was going to be a great deal more powerful than the two current gen consoles beforehand. :P

[QUOTE="LustForSoul"]Oh come on, 720p or 1080p, it's not that much of a difference.mrmusicman247

Can't say I'm really surprised or that I really care all that much. It's nice that its in HD anyways.

Yeah, but most games on 360 and PS3 aren't HD. If all games on WiiU at least have 720p, then I'd say it is the first console that does HD all the time.

Icarian

Well, it's entirely up to each individual developer whether or not a game will be above or below 1280x720. If a developer needs more resources later on in the Wii-U's life, they'll have to make sacrifices. You can't really assume that every single developer will shoot for 720p.

I know I joke around a lot when it comes to the Wii-U, but yeah....:P

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Even if 720p was "true HD" by your definition, it still wouldn't make the Wii-U the first "true" HD console. The 360 and PS3 already achieved that. And there are even a small number of 1080p games on the HD twins.

soapandbubbles

High-definition is defined as any resolution higher than standard-definition. Yes, the term is usually used when referring to content at 1280x720 or higher. But that's not necessarily a definite standard.

And as far as your last sentence goes, you're preaching to the choir.

Anybody who thinks that next-gen console games will be running at 1080p is fooling themselves. It's a damn waste on your typical HDTV set. Unless the screen is 2 feet from your nose, the average gamer wouldn't really notice the difference between a 720p game with good AA an a 1080p game.

Don't waste the limited power of a console on massive resolutions. You cannot upgrade consoles. Use what you have wisely.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]

I would imagine anyone who isn't damage controlling would've reasonably expected that much at least.

soapandbubbles

hahaha no, did you really expect a console that will likely cost same as current gen 360/PS3 to output games like Batman AC at 1080p?

Had to look up the upscale part but I think I understand -- so basically, no current gen console game that claims to support 1080p is actually in true 1080p then because none of the consoles are capable right? If that's the case then yah, I guess I can see why it was silly to expect it then.

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="LustForSoul"]Oh come on, 720p or 1080p, it's not that much of a difference.parkurtommo

lol, you don't notice wheter the gaming system or the Tv upscales the native resolution? Of corse not. No console.

guess a lot don't know the difference between the native resolution of a game and the output which is send to the monitor / tv. Most games on consoles this gen were below 720p nativly.

But that aside, it's disappointing. I somewhat hoped for 1080p @60fps. I guesss if they drop fps they could go up in res. Let's see what MS and Sony will do. After the Wiis success I guess all systems will be underpowered

could care less..play games for the fun...hires graphics are just an extra..

They want to get 60fps at 720p than have 30fps at 1080p. And that is way better than the current console.

Apologists saying "who cares about graphics etc." are full of it.

These consoles are not cheap. I LOVE the fact that I can watch Blurays, DVD and netflix on my PS3. That's just an added convenience for me that I don't have to have another box cluttering my living room. The WiiU does not provide that.

I love the fact that the PS3 has exclusives AND mutiplats that I can enjoy from the hardcore to the childish. That the WiiU is struggling to play current gen games in 720P means that when nextbox asnd PS4 come around Nintendo fans will be enduring another generation of missed multiplats.

Telling people that they should drop $300-$400 on basically what is an Xbox360 with a tablet controller just so they can play Mario Kart in 720p is halarious.

Apologists saying "who cares about graphics etc." are full of it.

These consoles are not cheap. I LOVE the fact that I can watch Blurays, DVD and netflix on my PS3. That's just an added convenience for me that I don't have to have another box cluttering my living room. The WiiU does not provide that.

I love the fact that the PS3 has exclusives AND mutiplats that I can enjoy from the hardcore to the childish. That the WiiU is struggling to play current gen games in 720P means that when nextbox asnd PS4 come around Nintendo fans will be enduring another generation of missed multiplats.

Telling people that they should drop $300-$400 on basically what is an Xbox360 with a tablet controller just so they can play Mario Kart in 720p is halarious.

Pray_to_me

I think Wii U does support Netflix and similar services. It's logical to think that going forwards streaming is going to take over from using physical media, so no blu-ray isn't much of a loss in my opinion.

As for graphics, I don't particularly care. My tv isn't 1080p. I can barely notice the difference between 1080p and 720p anyway. Would much rather a smooth 720p frame rate than a choppy 1080p frame rate.

I'm dissappointed. I didn't expect Wii U to be very powerful but I expected it to at least be able to run games in 1080p without too much trouble. It's 2012 - 720p is years behind the times.

It's not like the sheep will care. As long as Nintendo keeps releasing Mario and Zelda, no matter how similar it is to the previous one, they'll keep going crazy over it.

[spoiler] NINTENDO INNUVASHON [/spoiler]

QQabitmoar

Well, not anymore

I used to buy Nintendo systems for Zelda, now Zelda was underwhlming in both TP and SS and the graphics look horrible on my HDTV

So, Nintendo can keep both their casualized games and their horrid hardware, will skip this system altogether

LOL, WiiU seems will be FAR worst comparing to xbox 720/PS4 than Wii was comparing to PS3/360

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Apologists saying "who cares about graphics etc." are full of it.

These consoles are not cheap. I LOVE the fact that I can watch Blurays, DVD and netflix on my PS3. That's just an added convenience for me that I don't have to have another box cluttering my living room. The WiiU does not provide that.

I love the fact that the PS3 has exclusives AND mutiplats that I can enjoy from the hardcore to the childish. That the WiiU is struggling to play current gen games in 720P means that when nextbox asnd PS4 come around Nintendo fans will be enduring another generation of missed multiplats.

Telling people that they should drop $300-$400 on basically what is an Xbox360 with a tablet controller just so they can play Mario Kart in 720p is halarious.

manicfoot

I think Wii U does support Netflix and similar services. It's logical to think that going forwards streaming is going to take over from using physical media, so no blu-ray isn't much of a loss in my opinion.

As for graphics, I don't particularly care. My tv isn't 1080p. I can barely notice the difference between 1080p and 720p anyway. Would much rather a smooth 720p frame rate than a choppy 1080p frame rate.

PS3 plays bluray AND dvd AND Netflix. That a choice a perk a convenience I like to have and it's great to know when you spend a few hundred bucks on a console that you have those options. I'm sorry your TV is trash because you are obviously a little kid who lives with mommy. But if you don't care about graphics so much then stick with your Wii. Problem solved. You can use that WiiU money twoards buying a television that isn't garbage.

How many launch 360 games ran at 720p?nintendoboy16

this thread again? i cant even honestly tell the difference i just wsnt teh gamez

Anybody who thinks that next-gen console games will be running at 1080p is fooling themselves. It's a damn waste on your typical HDTV set. Unless the screen is 2 feet from your nose, the average gamer wouldn't really notice the difference between a 720p game with good AA an a 1080p game.

Wasdie

A GPU capable of 1080p is easily within budget for either MS or Sony. Even something as weak as a APU+GPU 6670 crossfire setup is more than able to push 1080p.

I think that Nintendo simply chose to go with a ~$125 build excluding the WiiUmote. They literally sat down and cloned the 360 in power and controller, but added some RAM for the sake of dev convenience. That's kinda creepy.

A couple of games are in 1080P and 60fps or 30fps that will release on day 1 for the console.These include trine 2 director's cut, that scribblenauts game and I think one more game.