And so it begins....Nintendo confirms Wii U launch games will run at 720p *sigh*

"the company will focus more on delivering games at 60 frames per second, rather than focusing on higher resolution like 1080p"

How is this bad news? Am I seriously the only one who has been getting aggravated by how many console games tend to run at 30 fps? Performance should almost always be a greater priority than visual quality, IMO.

Grovilis

It's not bad news at all. It's always gameplay > graphics here, but when it comes to Nintendo everyone does a complete 180. Now Nintendo has HD and gameplay. Can't wait to see the reactions when Wii-U arrives.

I'd rather take 1080p for most games though. For fighters and games like SMG, I'll take whatever makes them run at 60FPS.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Voyant"] By the time then Nintendo would have collected its $$$ from the Wii U and make a move to counter it.Voyant

I wouldn't bother, man. He's trying to trap you.

If cows and lems spend all their time argung specs, at least sheep can play their exclusives and laugh at the irony.

[QUOTE="captainqwark20"][QUOTE="WiiCubeM1"]

I know, I know, I get your mentality. I think in the broader sense, not in the now. But when you ask people, especially non-gamers, about games they think of when you mention a certain genre or just video games in general, they will usually jump to Nintendo and it's franchises. Nintendo is the name people think of when they think handheld gaming, and Pokemon is still the bst selling RPG series of all time, and the last Pokemon games were major sellers on the DS, with each generation selling over 10 million copies, DP selling 17 million.

Mario Kart selling 12 million on the DS and 13 million on the Wii says "major" to me. Especially when compared to the best selling GT on the PS3 this gen was 7 million (the PS3's best selling game) and the best selling Forza was 5 million

Also, last time I checked, "fastest selling Zelda" in it's first week isn't a flop, especially when it sold roughly the same amount of copies in 2 months as each entry in the Uncharted series did. In fact, bundled with Twilight Princess, it sold roughly the same amount copies than all 3 Uncharted did.

WiiCubeM1

Mario Kart DS sold roughly 12 million before it was bundled (turns out it's selling number is actually 20 million), and Mario Kart Wii sold 7 million worldwide its first year, and was bordering 20 million by the time it was bundled with the Wii (final sales numbers I can find were 31 million).

If you can't bother to read my post as you find it stupid or fanboyish, just don't answer back. I still read all posts I respond to, even if they piss me off and have no actual thought put into them. If this little exchange proved anything, it's that even when I use outdated sales numbers, they still sold better and you are just using fanboy techniques to ignore logic.

Also, Mario Kart has been selling better with each gen, and it has always sold well.

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"][QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Except it doesn't.

StealthMonkey4

I covered this a while back in another thread, Nintendo has like a third as much AAA and AA games as both 360 and PS3, not to mention the awful graphics, horrid controller, and bad online play.

[QUOTE="Voyant"][QUOTE="Cranler"] they couldnt counter the 360 with all the money made on wii until 8 years later lol and even then its barely surpassing the 360. Cranler

actually epic hasn't confirmed it. they said Wii U is confirmed to use unreal engine 3. that doesn't mean it can't run unreal engine 4.

[QUOTE="captainqwark20"][QUOTE="Cranler"]i dont remember seeing any awesome graphics shown at e3 for wiiu. Last of us seemed to have the best console graphics. Epic confirmed its too week for ue4 and can only hand ue3 which was designed for 8 year old consolesCranler

It really doesn't matter because the majority of gamers (who game on PS3 & 360) do not have 50" 1080p tvs anyways.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Voyant"] Oo... Oh...you know the specs of the Wii U? Please... enlighten me.DNAbro

actually epic hasn't confirmed it. they said Wii U is confirmed to use unreal engine 3. that doesn't mean it can't run unreal engine 4.

It really doesn't matter because the majority of gamers (who game on PS3 & 360) do not have 50" 1080p tvs anyways.

Bigboi500

so Wii U is the console they should have released in the first place.

Welcome to the new half-next gen. haha.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It really doesn't matter because the majority of gamers (who game on PS3 & 360) do not have 50" 1080p tvs anyways.

Cranler

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It really doesn't matter because the majority of gamers (who game on PS3 & 360) do not have 50" 1080p tvs anyways.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It really doesn't matter because the majority of gamers (who game on PS3 & 360) do not have 50" 1080p tvs anyways.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]there are more owners of 1080 p tvs now than 720 p tv owners back when 360 launched. Cranler

All it will take is for Sony and Microsoft to bring out a 1080p only experience and they will have my money.

I seriously don't think that matters at all. Consoles now barely hit 720p.

Still, This generation and the attitude most gamers have for WiiU just proves that they only care about Graphics and not the Actual Game.

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]I bet more non-hermit gamers have 720p tvs than 1080p tvs. This is a non-issue for most people.

Bigboi500

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] What do hermits have to do with tv res of consolers?Cranler

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

Cranler

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

Cranler

A lot of People dismissed the 3DS cause of the "Gigantic Library of Games" then PSP has.

Psstt....Blurays are 1080p..........some people use their TVs for more than just video games.

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

Bigboi500

Because it runs on a 7 year-old console. Not to mention the fact that previous Halo games were below 720p, and Halo 4 will be native 720p.

If anything, they'd be happy for such an achievement. :P

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

Halo 4 will be in 720p, I don't see lemmings making a fuss about that. Why is that?

LegatoSkyheart

A lot of People dismissed the 3DS cause of the "Gigantic Library of Games" then PSP has.

Buh...buh..teh 720! :cry:

Breaks my heart. :roll:

That is a letdown. Ps3 and 360, about 7 year old consoles, do the same :|

Nintendo probably trying to make profit from the sold consoles with not-so-powerful hardware, like with wii.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] It runs on a $200 console that plays dvds and has a gigantic library of gamesCranler

I don't really care, however it doesn't personally bother me anyway, my HDTV is 720p.SaltyMeatballs

Odd coming from someone that stated ...

"If consoles are not up to par with PC next gen then I am just going to wait about 2 years and upgrade my rig" - SaltyMeatballs

Sheep seem to love comparing wii-u to an ancient 7 year old console. Talk about low standards. Bubu on par or slightly better than 360 guys. Is anyone supposed to be impressed?MFDOOM1983

and whats so *sigh* about that?

Expecting 1080p? Devs confirmed its not Impossible, they can, but its gonna be hard because they have a DAMN GAMEPAD SCREEN TO TRY TO MAKE THE SAME RESOLUTION. The Gamepad itself will be 720p so i dont see how this means Nintendo went to trash tier, thats already better tec.

The fact that the Wii U's Launch Titles are pretty much just the same as PS3/360 means its on a good start. PS3/360 LAUNCH games look the same as TODAY right? Of Course not, they kept getting better and better where today would beat the crap out of Launch and the fact that the Wii U's LAUNCH is just as good as PS3/360 TODAY means its got LOTS of things we dont know about. Never underestimate an early console.

im gonna laugh if this happens with Sony/Microsoft next gen machines.

Nintendo's brilliant, no other company can drop my hype as much as Nintendo can. In 2 weeks, Wii U went from my must-buy highly anticipated platform to laughable never-buy useless Wii-repeat platform. Nintendo never learns, it might as well be Wii with useless online features.

im gonna laugh if this happens with Sony/Microsoft next gen machines.

DNAbro

The chances of that happening are close to zero, Epic's pushing them to release high tech machinery, hoping for PS4/NeXbox to be at Wii U's level is just wishful thinking. Sony and Microsoft know how to cater to gamers, Nintendo....:-/

and whats so *sigh* about that?

Expecting 1080p? Devs confirmed its not Impossible, they can, but its gonna be hard because they have a DAMN GAMEPAD SCREEN TO TRY TO MAKE THE SAME RESOLUTION. The Gamepad itself will be 720p so i dont see how this means Nintendo went to trash tier, thats already better tec.

The fact that the Wii U's Launch Titles are pretty much just the same as PS3/360 means its on a good start. PS3/360 LAUNCH games look the same as TODAY right? Of Course not, they kept getting better and better where today would beat the crap out of Launch and the fact that the Wii U's LAUNCH is just as good as PS3/360 TODAY means its got LOTS of things we dont know about. Never underestimate an early console.

hotdiddykong

On a good start? No...that's pathetic.

PS3 launch games didn't look as good as games today, but they sure as hell looked better than PS2 games. God of War II looked magnificent on PS2, yet it doesn't even stack up to how great Gears of War looked when it released for the 360.

Also, why in gods name would you expect a launch title to be graphically equivalent to a game that comes out today? Seriously people....

The fact that you're comparing the Wii U's launch to PS3/360 just shows how pathetic the console is.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="DNAbro"]

im gonna laugh if this happens with Sony/Microsoft next gen machines.

TheGuardian03

The chances of that happening are close to zero, Epic's pushing them to release high tech machinery, hoping for PS4/NeXbox to be at Wii U's level is just wishful thinking. Sony and Microsoft know how to cater to gamers, Nintendo....:-/

It's gone because of Nintendo's completely idiotic decisions.

Not only do they focus on having so many power-hogging features (a separate screen for controller, clearly inefficient OS, etc.), their terrible E3 conference (could have easily been good, but instead they show us garbage instead of proper games), they seem to love saying "Wii U is very powerful" while the facts clearly dictate otherwise (unless Nintendo is comparing Wii U to Wii, in that case, welcome to current gen Nintendo. You're 6 years late, again), and let's not forget the fact that none of the bigger companies seem to be getting into Nintendo's new console. Everybody is waiting for the next Sony/Microsoft consoles, it's like Nintendo doesn't even matter anymore :-/

Heck, Epic even stated that they didn't design UE4 with Wii U in mind, it's clear that Nintendo isn't concerned with power. They say they want to attract the hardcore gamer, yet they flaunt current gen technology in a "next-gen system". And how powerful can it really be? You have a high-res screen on another controller, plus better online features, plus slightly stronger than current gen specs, and Nintendo never sells at a loss, and Nintendo said they don't want to sell the console for a very high price. That leaves very little room for improvement in terms of power. Nintendo just continues to disappoint me, it's like they're completely out of touch with anything other than their first party games. I really expected more from them after the Wii and considering their track record, but I should have known better than to expect quality from the Nintendo brand.

[spoiler] Yeah, I'm that angry:evil: [/spoiler]

Nintendo's brilliant, no other company can drop my hype as much as Nintendo can. In 2 weeks, Wii U went from my must-buy highly anticipated platform to laughable never-buy useless Wii-repeat platform. Nintendo never learns, it might as well be Wii with useless online features.

XVision84

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"] Except that cool opinion bro.bonesawisready5

I covered this a while back in another thread, Nintendo has like a third as much AAA and AA games as both 360 and PS3, not to mention the awful graphics, horrid controller, and bad online play.

Failtroll is fail.

[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Nintendo's brilliant, no other company can drop my hype as much as Nintendo can. In 2 weeks, Wii U went from my must-buy highly anticipated platform to laughable never-buy useless Wii-repeat platform. Nintendo never learns, it might as well be Wii with useless online features.

Eponique

Maybe so, but at least Vita was a proper leap forward in terms of handheld gaming, they also had great-looking games available at launch. Vita should have succeeded, the only problem is that iPhone/Andriod has a large chunk of the handheld gaming market, while DS has firm ground on the rest. There isn't really appeal for the Vita, especially since you can get the same games with better graphics on a PS3 for a better price.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Not. 1080p.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

Nintendo's brilliant, no other company can drop my hype as much as Nintendo can. In 2 weeks, Wii U went from my must-buy highly anticipated platform to laughable never-buy useless Wii-repeat platform. Nintendo never learns, it might as well be Wii with useless online features.

XVision84

Maybe so, but at least Vita was a proper leap forward in terms of handheld gaming, they also had great-looking games available at launch. Vita should have succeeded, the only problem is that iPhone/Andriod has a large chunk of the handheld gaming market, while DS has firm ground on the rest. There isn't really appeal for the Vita, especially since you can get the same games with better graphics on a PS3 for a better price.

=ultra ultra hype.
>memory card prices announced

Dead on arrival.

The Wii U hype level is nothing compared to that. Only people who are pretending to complain are trolls. Everyone else knew that the Wii U was only going to be slightly more powerful than PS3/X360.