Another game hyped to be native 4k on X1X revealed to be actually using checkerboard 4k techniques

Not surprising in the least.

Lems are gonna have to accept that they got misled by MS. The more they stick to this "True 4K" rubbish the more they'll continue to get owned by things like this. Why they couldn't just be happy that the XboneX was more powerful than PS4 Pro and leave it at that baffles me. Instead they had to go down this road of laughing at Dynamic 4K and checkerboarding and calling PS4 Pro a FauxK machine. Now their words are biting them in the ass.

Get rekt lems, TLHBO!

I voted the first one just to spite you.

@quadknight: wrongvalencia is still trying to defend the X1X being equivalent to the GTX 1070 narrative lol

Oh my god why does it matter

The amount of Xbox One X threads that get created almost everyday...lmao. Is there really nothing else to talk about...

You're evil

It doesn't actually, much like most topics here, but lemmings have make it matter so I guess it is the consequence of overhyping something for what it isn't. Sony fans learned last gen with teh Cell, 4D and 120fps, it is lemmings turn in the fanboys cycle.

Geez,cows are scared of all that power

Scandalous....Lems can't catch a break!

All that is known is that the X1X could achieve the true essence of 4k better and more often for more games than the Pro. I mean the X1X is the most powerful console so of course it will do 4k better than the Pro. Sony are the real ones that are trying to fake it till they make it.

The guy is a nutcase.

I voted the first one simply because I can. In reality though I really don't care. Games on the Xbox One X are going to look just fine to me and I'm going to have a great time with the system.

Is there like a ratio of Native 4k games vs non-native 4k games on a system for it to be called a "true 4k" machine? If there's no ratio, then the Pro should also be considered a "true 4k" machine. You either are or you're not. Sony advertises the Pro as Dynamic 4k, which is somewhat honest. MS keeps trying to make people think every game will be in native 4k, when the truth is it's whatever the devs want it to be.(yes they said it's up to the devs, but they continue advertising it as a true 4k system)

@MonsieurX: ROFLMAO !

I voted 1 just because it pisses Cows

I don't care.

Account bet, by June 2018, it'll have more native 4k games than the Pro

As long as consumers know what they're getting when they buy the system, it shouldn't matter. But then you got the two rival fan factions (Xbox / Playstation) who argue incessantly over resolution (among other things) to tout the "dominance" of their preferred platform.

The other side of the coin being Microsoft themselves who shot themselves in the foot by advertising their new system for "uncompromising" 4K. Someone should have given them a dictionary so they could look up the actual meaning of uncompromising.

compromise == choice

Look. I'm just going to say it, it needs to be said.

The Scorpio would be a proper decent console if 3440x1440 existed in the television market. It has exactly enough muscle to be a competent gaming machine at that rez and in a parallel universe where television manufacturers held off on 4k, Scorpio would be running the goddamn table.

The very moment that MS started touting this thing as a 4k machine is when they lost their goddamn minds. The moment this thing stopped being a theoretical god and an actual plastic box with silicon in it, the promises could not be met. MS knew this. They played everyone for fools, anyway. They have done this consistently through the latter half of Gen 7 up until now. How ANYONE thinks this will change is beyond me at this point.

My take is, the reviewers could not even tell the difference and were impressed. There is not parity in the X and Pro versions and X will still look better. If you read the interview. Codemasters is doing exactly what Xbox said they are fine with, (using the other features of the X to enhance other aspects of the game instead of using it just for native 4k) Codemasters never said they could not run the game in native 4k, they chose the extra power in other places.

More fake news coming from those who like to play sales and resolution wars. And that's what this generation has been all about, especially since Sony had no exclusives except for remasters, indies, walking simulators, and a Dark Souls knock off/clone for the first 3 years before UC4 finally was not delayed for a 4th time. Sony execs were the ones saying 1080 makes you a better gamer or give me 1080p or give me death. All was gobbled up and spread like wild fire by fanboys. Power advantage is gone fanboys, most likely forever. Sure they will put out a ps5, MS will just delay a year and once again do a stronger system easier to develop for.

And trust me, next time Sony ever has to take any heat they will immediately announce Sales numbers like they always do.

@joshrmeyer: people fail to realize that the "true 4k" is only MS buzz word and does not mean "native 4k".

A game rendering in native 4k and a game being checkerboarded to 4k both carry the "4k Ultra HD" labeling.

@pinkanimal: Do us all a favour and go play some of the millions of PS exclusives you supposedly have... if you even actually play games that is. And take Quacknight with you.

@xxyetixx: So in all honestly, we can conclude that both the Pro and the X1X are "true 4k" according to MS's definition. I'm not arguing which is more powerful... That's obvious. Guess I'm sick of people acting like this system is the second coming of Christ. It's a good system, but does essentially the same thing the Pro does, just better in certain cases depending on whether the dev uses the extra power.

@pinkanimal: The X1X also probably won't have rapid packed math.

@hrt_rulz01: don't be butthurt bro. He's just reporting the news.

@the-a-baum: Did you really just say Sony has no exclusives but then name a bunch and not name a ton others? Seriously, at least accept that Sony has a ton of exclusives, especially this year and next.

Its hilarious. Cause even a 1070 is not a 4k card. You need 1080/1080ti minimum.

Hey at least 4k Blurays arent checkerboarded :D

My first thought to this was there's always the option to connect to a PC monitor, just as PC's can connect to a large TV. Then it occurred to me that for the purpose of a living room setup, not many PC displays (2K or 4K) come in the 36"+ range. Then there would be the issue of getting the audio, as PC monitors built in speakers are rubbish, if not altogether missing. Which would mean a secondary exterior speaker hookup or going exclusively with headsets, that in itself isolates a Blu ray viewing experience.

But as games are set at fixed resolution anyway, being able to use a 1440p monitor (complications aside) doesn't solve the resolution dilemma anyway. But I agree with the heart of your message; that shooting for 4K was a mistake when the first 8th gen entries were still struggling for 1080p with decent frame rate.

I wrote HAD no Exclusives.

Try to tell me Sony was not advertising the Power edge, and even their own execs saying the line ups were sparse so they investing in more multi plat marketing deals at the time.

Now they are losing the power advantage and finally stopped delaying all the games they promised years and years ago, so it's all about games now?

@the-a-baum: True... For some reason a butt ton came out this year. Not sure why it took them that long but at least the exclusives that did come out, we're really good.

@pdogg93: Ok, well "report" on the number of PS4 Pro games that aren't native 4k... which will be much higher than the X.

its ou now, we can see that 10,5 TF on vega 56 is 5-10% faster than 1070, 6TF on vega 40 CUs is more like 1060, as sane people aways knew

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-review?utm_source=eurogamer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=net-daily

@30

Sony wasn't advertising the Pro as a True 4k machine so there's nothing to prove them wrong about.

@pinkanimal: Omfg... Please link me to the evidence that shows MS saying that EVERY game would be native 4k?

Anyway you and your fellow cow trolls need to get a life. You have an unhealthy obsession with the X. If you don't want it, then fine. No one gives a sh**. Go play your half-arsed "dynamic 4K" system... lmao talk about spin.

@hrt_rulz01: Oooo you got me good didn't you? I don't recall reading in any of Sony's advertisements that it offers an "uncompromised 4k experience". Looks like MS is having to make MANY compromises to deliver a non-native 4k experience. Xbone x will unquestionably be more powerful than the pro, that's not the point. The point is that it's been hyped to be something it really isn't. It does not deliver an uncompromised 4k experience. Sorry pal. Maybe next time.

@pdogg93: It has the capability to hit native 4k, as a bunch of games will. It's up to developers if they want to target it... Anyway whatevs.

It's going to be better than the Pro with regards to 4K and that seems to hurt you cows a lot. Why else would you cows be so obsessed with it since you obviously don't care about it. This is truly a case of hating another system more than you love your own. Absolutely lame considering we're talking about video games as a form of entertainment.

Either way keep that butthurt coming cows.

@kingtito: Exactly my point. I'm pretty sure pinkanimal (and a few other cows) secretly wants an X but is trying to talk himself out of it so he keeps posting sh** like this. Lol.

Yeaah right....

Like MS' marketing slogan when they announced the FlopBoneX was "the new XboneX more powerful than the Pro".....lol GTFO.

They went out of their way to call it a "true 4K machine" and talked endlessly about delivering an "uncompromised 4K experience". You lems have been rekt by MS and their shitty deceptive marketing again. Hold that L and maybe next time you clowns won't be duped by MS aga.....? who am I kidding? You clowns will fall for it again like the sheep you are.

Wrongvalencia owned again.

So you're saying the X1X isn't more powerful? You think that extra power isn't going to translate?

You cows are just butthurt and scared and none more than you quack (haha that name like you're some Knight defending Sony).

@kingtito: Lmao. Hit the nail on the head.

Hahahahahaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa The xbox onx X is a True 4k... (when is not checkerboard or dynamic) lol

I remember how lemmings use to cry that sony should not target 1080 with the PS4 because 1 or 2 games were 900p when the xbox one x has a ton of sub 4k games and they say nothing..lol

I'm not butthurt about anything. I bought a Pro for better looking PS4 exclusive games and improved VR not because Sony lied it would do "uncompromised 4K" like MS did with XboneX. My PC already does real 4K better than the Pro and the DynamicBoneX. The only butthurt here is from you clowns that bought into MS' bullshit and hyped the DynamicBoneX as a game changer for a whole year.

? Get rekt and cry harder.

Well, it was touted as "uncompromising 4K". Sounds like they're making a lot of compromises though.

@quadknight: Lmao, I was waiting for it... hiding behind PC again. I'm sure once PS5 is announced and is more powerful than XB1 X, PC won't get a mention anymore.

@quadknight: The only ones crying are you cows. Constant threads about the X1Xs 4K capabilities even know it's doing exactly what MS said it would by leaving the choice up to devs. It's day in and day out from you cows and where I come from that's called fear. Fear because your Pro won't be the best console graphics wise any longer. Scared as I've been saying for months.

quack (hahaha that name) you should stop your whining and crying and just go full PC since you cows love to hide behind it when it suits you.

But its not an MS made game is it? How is it their compromise? "but at the time, the team hadn’t made its final decision on whether it would stick to native 4K, or opt for a rendering technique to achieve that resolution instead."

By your own source the devs, not MS made the compromise. LOL well done

^ This!