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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Oh god no, less grass, whatever will I do :roll: PS3 really fails on this one. And the over exaggeration on superior multiplats continue.blue_hazy_basicIsn't SW really all about overexaggeration on everything though? You right on that one :P
Oh god no, less grass, whatever will I do :roll: PS3 really fails on this one. And the over exaggeration on superior multiplats continue.FIipMode
Its not that Overexagerrated. Theyre still better on 360 9 times out of 10.
i can't believe i'm still hearing ps3 fanboys say "but there's hardly any difference". wow, lol.
the ps3 - it only does everything. except grass :lol:
[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] I'm a video game collector. Certain people here know that.Zero_epyonso you would buy a game with no intention of playing it To add to his collection. Collector mentality. You buy them to have them not to use or play them. Are you a collector? I have no interest in Mafia II but I may play it just because it's in my collection. 90% of the games I buy I plan to play however, there is that little 10% I just buy because it's cheap or I don't want to worry about getting it later (Mafia II).
I just downloaded the demo for the PS3 and other then the grass I cant see a difference at all
And who cares about grass any way?
It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.sucks that the ps3 gets yet another half-baked version of a multiplat
KarateeeChop
What the heck is the differenece?
I swear to god they look exactly the same :?
tonitorsi
if only pretending not to notice the difference actually works...
[QUOTE="FIipMode"]Oh god no, less grass, whatever will I do :roll: PS3 really fails on this one. And the over exaggeration on superior multiplats continue.XboximusPrime
Its not that Overexagerrated. Theyre still better on 360 9 times out of 10.
Yeah I get that 360 usually gets the better multiplats , but when a big thread is made on the lack of grass in a multiplat (still laughing about that) its definitely over exaggeration and down right silly, especially when you name the title PS3 version bites the dust.[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
There's hardly any difference and the PS3 version has exclusive missions
T-razor1
As much as you want to make yourself feel good I hate to break it to you but there IS a difference and as far as that exclusive mission stuff goes I see that as nothing more than a bone thrown to the dogs....uuumm I mean cows to make up for the poor graphical quality compared to the 360 and PC. I can live without the extra missions and I wouldn't be surprised if it was released for the 360 later down the line.
So... you value shaggy grass over game content? :roll:
I'd agree that the PS3 version - provided these demo version represent the final products - has some graphical deficiencies (though the color seems better), but if I were in any way interested in the game to begin with I think I'd want the content most of all. Better grass isn't gonna be what keeps me playing 20 hours in.
Shame though. This far into the generation and with mountains of evidence to show these kinds of things aren't necessary. Just sloppy work.
[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.sucks that the ps3 gets yet another half-baked version of a multiplat
FlamesOfGrey
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
[QUOTE="T-razor1"]
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
There's hardly any difference and the PS3 version has exclusive missions
As much as you want to make yourself feel good I hate to break it to you but there IS a difference and as far as that exclusive mission stuff goes I see that as nothing more than a bone thrown to the dogs....uuumm I mean cows to make up for the poor graphical quality compared to the 360 and PC. I can live without the extra missions and I wouldn't be surprised if it was released for the 360 later down the line.
So... you value shaggy grass over game content? :roll:
I'd agree that the PS3 version - provided these demo version represent the final products - has some graphical deficiencies (though the color seems better), but if I were in any way interested in the game to begin with I think I'd want the content most of all. Better grass isn't gonna be what keeps me playing 20 hours in.
Shame though. This far into the generation and with mountains of evidence to show these kinds of things aren't necessary. Just sloppy work.
Well, as with Assassin's Creed 2, the 'extra game' content will probably available as DLC for anyone interested in playing it. Personally, I would rather play a better looking version of a game than play the uglier one slightly longer, but I can respect value minded playstation gamers opting for the extra content. I cannot, however, respect people who claim that the PS3 version looks as good as the 360.It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
sucks that the ps3 gets yet another half-baked version of a multiplat
KarateeeChop
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
[QUOTE="T-razor1"]Seriously if you own both a 360 and ps3 I really don't see how anyone could spend their hard earned 60 bucks on the watered down ps3 version. People can make fun of grass, foliage all they want but for me personally it's the little things...the little things man that make the difference for me. You must admit the differences really do stick out like a sore thumb...or in this case a green thumb :lol:delta3074wow, that isn't just a couple of shrubs missing, it's the whole lawn,lol, that really is bad. not exactly a 'minor' difference either.
Really because from what i see easy on those 2 last pics,that they are not standing on in the exact same place,just look a the pole on both version and see where they are exactly standing,probably on the PS3 version which show the character stading a little more to the left than on the 360 version,could be hiding the flowers from view on the screen.
Either way a few flowers and stuff ins't really a reason to downplay the version,since minor stuff like that would not alter gameplay,now requiering to pay $50 dollars for live to play online is a much bigger problem for any 360 multiplatform,and you people just seem to don't be affected by it.
It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
sucks that the ps3 gets yet another half-baked version of a multiplat
KarateeeChop
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
You just said exactly what he did but tried to spin it. People outside these forums won't know the difference.[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.FlamesOfGrey
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?)It's not that big of a deal outside of forums no one will care.FlamesOfGrey
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
You just said exactly what he did but tried to spin it. People outside these forums won't know the difference. Yeah, he tried to spin it because I said I am buying the PS3 version anyway which has nothing to do with System Wars and everything to do with the fact that I play on PS3 more.wow, that isn't just a couple of shrubs missing, it's the whole lawn,lol, that really is bad. not exactly a 'minor' difference either.[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="T-razor1"]Seriously if you own both a 360 and ps3 I really don't see how anyone could spend their hard earned 60 bucks on the watered down ps3 version. People can make fun of grass, foliage all they want but for me personally it's the little things...the little things man that make the difference for me. You must admit the differences really do stick out like a sore thumb...or in this case a green thumb :lol:Eltormo
Really because from what i see easy on those 2 last pics,that they are not standing on in the exact same place,just look a the pole on both version and see where they are exactly standing,probably on the PS3 version which show the character stading a little more to the left than on the 360 version,could be hiding the flowers from view on the screen.
Either way a few flowers and stuff ins't really a reason to downplay the version,since minor stuff like that would not alter gameplay,now requiering to pay $50 dollars for live to play online is a much bigger problem for any 360 multiplatform,and you people just seem to don't be affected by it.
Mafia 2 doesn't have an online component, so I don't know why you would grasp at straws by bringing up the LIVE fee in a conversation which centers around an offline game.[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]You just said exactly what he did but tried to spin it. People outside these forums won't know the difference. Yeah, he tried to spin it because I said I am buying the PS3 version anyway which has nothing to do with System Wars and everything to do with the fact that I play on PS3 more.in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
FlamesOfGrey
really? where did you say that? i must have missed that...
you're thinking too hard, mate. not everything is a mini-conspiracy :lol:
[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?) In reveiw the reviewer will probably recommend the PS3 version for additional content[QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?) The thing is your "average" gamer doesn't go looking for techincal differences and more often then not unless it's extreme (Bayonetta / Fallout 3) alot of reviewers don't really mention it.[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
donalbane
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?)You know how many PS2 and xbox multiplatform games where rated iqual no matter the difference in graphics.?
Once again lets not talk about minor things like grass,and talk about the bigger ones like gold subscribtion require to play online,which is something every mutiplatform game require on 360 while on PS3 they not,i mean just out of the gate the PS3 version has far bigger replay value,which is a great difference and not minor like grass.
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="KarateeeChop"]
in the real world, gamers would pick up the better version of the game. not everything revolves around this forum you know.
donalbane
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?)exactly. When the difference is this big, most reviews will certainly point out the many inferiorities of the PS3 version.
The whole 'who cared about teh grass anyway' and 'nobody cares in the real world' is just a defense mechanism that revolves solely around self-reassurance.
You know how many PS2 and xbox multiplatform games where rated iqual no matter the difference in graphics.?
Once again lets not talk about minor things like grass,and talk about the bigger ones like gold subscribtion require to play online,which is something every mutiplatform game require on 360 while on PS3 they not,i mean just out of the game the PS3 version has far bigger replay value,which is a great difference and not minor like grass.
Eltormo
Why would Live fees be relevant if Mafia II does not have a multiplayer component?
Yeah, he tried to spin it because I said I am buying the PS3 version anyway which has nothing to do with System Wars and everything to do with the fact that I play on PS3 more.[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] You just said exactly what he did but tried to spin it. People outside these forums won't know the difference.KarateeeChop
really? where did you say that? i must have missed that...
you're thinking too hard, mate. not everything is a mini-conspiracy :lol:
Okay, I'll believe you weren't trying to spin it. ;)
[QUOTE="deleterguy"]So I just played the demo on my 360 again. Damn that's an ugly game with loads of screen tearing.Eltormo
Which mafia2.?
Yes.[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?)exactly. When the difference is this big, most reviews will certainly point out the many inferiorities of the PS3 version.
The whole 'who cared about teh grass anyway' and 'nobody cares in the real world' is just a defense mechanism that revolves solely around self-reassurance.
Why would I need reassurance when I have the option of buying both versions at the same time even if I please? I know alot of gamers and none of them care but if you know tons of people who good to beyond 3D and such to see which version is technically better then awesome.Lots of people watch and read reviews, though... and I would bet dollars to doughnuts the PS3s graphical shortcomings come up in them. (Maybe not 'HipHopGamer', who will most certainly claim the PS3 version is superior.) It may get a lower score here, for instance. That impacts sales. (Remember when Bayonetta was cheaper on PS3?)[QUOTE="donalbane"][QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]
In the real world 80%-90% of the people won't know which version in technically better and will go with whatever system they play most on. I never hear people talking about which version has more grass or better textures because they don't care. Forums are the only place I personally see that so, yeah.
KarateeeChop
exactly. When the difference is this big, most reviews will certainly point out the many inferiorities of the PS3 version.
The whole 'who cared about teh grass anyway' and 'nobody cares in the real world' is just a defense mechanism that revolves solely around self-reassurance.
I'm not buying either versions, don't care for the game so there goes your whole theory. It's a big deal to people here, sure. Other than that, not so much.
[QUOTE="Eltormo"]
You know how many PS2 and xbox multiplatform games where rated iqual no matter the difference in graphics.?
Once again lets not talk about minor things like grass,and talk about the bigger ones like gold subscribtion require to play online,which is something every mutiplatform game require on 360 while on PS3 they not,i mean just out of the game the PS3 version has far bigger replay value,which is a great difference and not minor like grass.
lundy86_4
Why would Live fees be relevant if Mafia II does not have a multiplayer component?
Because is not just about Mafia is about every mutiplatform game that comes to 360 and PS3 and is free to play online,while on 360 is not,yet 360 owners downplay the PS3 version for some minor stuff than actually don't affect gameplay,but ignore live $50 which on PSN are not require and add out of the gate much more replay value.
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
[QUOTE="Eltormo"]
You know how many PS2 and xbox multiplatform games where rated iqual no matter the difference in graphics.?
Once again lets not talk about minor things like grass,and talk about the bigger ones like gold subscribtion require to play online,which is something every mutiplatform game require on 360 while on PS3 they not,i mean just out of the game the PS3 version has far bigger replay value,which is a great difference and not minor like grass.
Eltormo
Why would Live fees be relevant if Mafia II does not have a multiplayer component?
Because is not just about Mafia is about every mutiplatform game that comes to 360 and PS3 and is free to play online,while on 360 is not,yet 360 owners downplay the PS3 version for some minor stuff than actually don't affect gameplay,but ignore live $50 which on PSN are not require and add out of the gate much more replay value.
dude, xbl isn't $50 per game :lol:
I love the Sony Damage Control in here, when a multiplat doesn't look as good as its 360 counterpart, its always "the gameplay is more important than the graphics" but when they try and say PS3 us better becasue of a couple of exclusives that look better they throw that mentality out the window. Double standards on both ends of the table. This is just so amusing.AiurProtoss
Yeah because the graphics difference in that game is as big as the difference bewteen Killzone 2 and Halo 3.
Better yet live completely ignore $50 a year which every single mutiplatform and not multiplatform game requieres that PSN doesn't.
Because is not just about Mafia is about every mutiplatform game that comes to 360 and PS3 and is free to play online,while on 360 is not,yet 360 owners downplay the PS3 version for some minor stuff than actually don't affect gameplay,but ignore live $50 which on PSN are not require and add out of the gate much more replay value.
Eltormo
Wasn't DonalBane (who you quoted) specifically talking about Mafia II receiving lower reviews on PS3? So what would be the relevance to your point?
The DLC just seems to be some form of "arcade" take on Mafia II, using leaderboards and such, so nothing relative to the main story. No doubt it will attract some people, but it's not exactly groundbreaking DLC.
Either way $50 a year isn't a lot of money, so I dunno why people keep complaining about it.
[QUOTE="Eltormo"]
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]
Why would Live fees be relevant if Mafia II does not have a multiplayer component?
KarateeeChop
Because is not just about Mafia is about every mutiplatform game that comes to 360 and PS3 and is free to play online,while on 360 is not,yet 360 owners downplay the PS3 version for some minor stuff than actually don't affect gameplay,but ignore live $50 which on PSN are not require and add out of the gate much more replay value.
dude, xbl isn't $50 per game :lol:
No is $50 a year i know that,but a non live owner looking to buy a RDR copy on 360 because it look better than on PS3,would soon find out that the 360 version needs another invertion to fully use the game while the PS3 version doesn't,ignoring that is quite sad,even trying to say that the PS3 version and 360 version had the same replay value or close is even more sad,is not true and we all know it to matain that iguality you need to put down $50 a year.
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