Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One

Wow, the hypocrisy continues, Remember RDR? sub HD on the Ps3, HD on the Xbox 360, less Foliage, LOD and Draw distance on the Ps3 ,yet you where one of the people saying, 'you cannot tell the difference'

Does that make you blind as well?

In Fact, there where a few games that ran Sub HD on the Ps3 , HD on the 360 that you cows still said 'looked identical'.

I will be honest with you, i never noticed a real difference back then and i don't notice a real difference now, although i knew the differences where there last gen and i know the difference is there this gen.

The only people that really notice a difference is pixel counters, you guys wouldn't even know what resolution a game is running at if somebody didn't tell you,lol

this is proven by the fact that you have to go seriously out of your way and use DF articles or Neogaf to prove there are differences in the first place,lol

I don't know why Cows or lems are whining, 900p Native is better than what we got last gen, Gamers expect too much like Women expect too much from there husbands,lol

Using the GPU alone to measure Graphical fidelity is stupid, the Xenos in the 360 was way more capable and sported a TON of features that the RSX didn't have like texture culling, universal shader architecture and a few others and could emulate certain DX10 subroutines but it wasn't the most powerful machine graphically.

The ps3 had to use the RSX and 4 of it's SPE's just to match the Xenos in the 360 yet the 360 still didn't end up being on top in the graphics department.

When you look at graphical fidelity you have to look at the whole set up not just the GPU's.

Not saying the Ps4 isn't more capable in the graphics department, just saying it's stupid to use just the extra power in the GPU to make the argument that it is.

@tormentos:

Because on PC you get 5 disc and you install all the game to your PC games don't run of the disc on PC and you know it.

DVD was to small and games on xbox 360 spam across several disc as early as 2006,in fact the xbox 360 is the console with most games on multiple disc beating the PS1,the DC and Gamecube.

Oh spare me the crying. How often did that have to be done? And was it such an inconvenience to have to switch a disc? If that is so hard then the HDMI pass through on X1 would be praised by you as you no longer have to switch inputs or pick up the remote. Dude, just admit it. If it was people calling your precious Sony guilty with no concrete evidence that they are you'd be flipping shit. Because its a chance to make your lover look good, you are on the cry baby attack. None of us are saying it isn't POSSIBLE. But you are saying its DEFINITE, so we say where is this DEFINITE proof?

As for ask hermits, pretty sure you and your PS4 are going to be on the "holding the industry back list" as well, so like I said if you don't like the industry, don't fuckin buy in. This is how its being run. Crying about here isn't going to make the console manufacturers go away.

1) If a game looks the same means that was a developers decision and not that X1 magically became even with PS4 as most lems trying to say, period. Ubisoft statement says it all. Now if a developer wants to not make both versions identical then you can see better lighting or shadow or resolution or FPS or all together , favoring PS4 of course.

2) It does matter if the driver ( developer ) wants to go beyond the quarter mile , some do so , so are you sure both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds at all times? Dont think so. Many examples out there , google them.

3) If you are gaming 1080p for years , like i do , 1080p vs 900p is 3 seconds case in order to tell what is what. Same as 30fps vs 60 fps. In most cases is less than 3 seconds also.

The funny thing is that you lems , all of you , praised X360 superiority on most multis vs PS3 when differences was indeed tiny. Games were running same FPS / Resolution / graphic settings etc ( 95% of the cases ). Now that graphics war favors clearly PS4 with better graphic settings / fps / resolution ..you name it , in most of occasions ...They dont matter and above all its hard to see them ? Isnt that hypocrisy at its finnest ?

Then open your eyes and check side by side comparisons by unbiased gamers/sites/graphic junkies around the internet. There are hundreds of such videos thats clearing up any doubt. Dont try to sound like X1 is in parity with PS4 on graphics. 7770 is a low end GPU , cant deal with 7850. Its up to developers if there will be parity or not. So cross your fingers every single time, thats all you can do in order to call "parity".

"6 Million Lines Of Code Were Rewritten To Crouch In Assassin's Creed Unity"

This game is not based on the old console limits anymore

6 million lines? I call bullshit.

little more about it

"Up until now, stealth in Assassin's Creed games have been contextual where players are allowed to hide in haystacks or among a group of monks, but not to crouch behind fixtures. Apparently, this behavior was so entrenched in the engine's core, the development team had to rewrite huge portions to enable player-controlled crouching.

"The engine was ... I mean, we rewrote like 6 million lines of code for this," said Alex Amancio, Ubisoft studios creative director. "It's not a joke."

"Our navigation seems very simple and very accessible, but to do this, it means that the system is calculating, before you're actually moving, where the possibilities of where you're actually going to go," he added. "And this is why a lot of people, from previous games, they felt like, 'I didn't want to go there and got detected.' We're trying to favor flow. We don't have a vehicle like Grand Theft Auto, a car and then a character – the assassin does both. So we need to favor flow for the traversal of the city, so a lot of times when you're trying to be stealthy the system is trying to favor speed and flow, and this is why this stuff happens. By creating the stealth mode, what we're actually doing is changing the way the navigation is working, because we know that you want to be stealthy.""

So they basically had to rewrite almost the entire engine just to get the avatar to crouch? Maybe this gen we seen Ubisoft actually being able to pull off what they seem to dream up. Ambition has always got the better of Ubisoft.

1. Not true. The developers made Shadow of Mordor 1080p for PS4 and 900p for Xbox One, and DF had a tough time telling the difference. Mainly, because despite what cows say, there isn't much of a difference.
2. What? If Car and Driver both performance test a car's quarter mile, it is what it is.
3. Not true. Sorry, but even DF had a hard time telling the difference. And don't pull that "if you have been gaming since..." crap with me. This is my 2nd account, my first one "dabear", is from 2001.

No, lemmings laughed that the 360 had any advantage, despite all the "teh powah of teh cell" banter that cows threw around. Again, you are not correct on the differences. Here, I'll make it easy on you - go to any site that has a graphics comparison of SoM, and show me where this glaring graphics advantage is pointed out.

The total number of account were 77 million and probably like 46 million were dummy accounts,of the same persons,by me alone i have 3.

Why didn't you quote this ^^.?

You know what i refer to when i say it wasn't 77 million it was mostly duplicates account.

Yes it does it entitle me the very best console my system can provide which in this case is better than the xbox one period because it is more powerful,if that was true we would still be playing with ps1 graphics.

This coming from some one who is not on next gen is a joke,you pay the same $60 dollars i pay and you get an inferior experience,that mentality was ok on 2008 but is 2014 that shit is not acceptable any more.

If i pay freaking $500 dollars for a damn video card and i get crap graphics because a ad developer wanted to have parity i would surely be piss after all what the fu** is the point of buying stronger hardware,the fun part is that you did not used that argument last gen and you hyped the 360 superior version as well many times,i did argue with you allot about those games dude you have a memory problem.

Dude even sites like gamespot slammed games that were just straight port of the PS2,and the xbox in almost all cases had the superior version.

One of the reason why xbox fans are graphics whores who refuse to admit the xbox one is weak is the xbox and how porweful it was vs the PS2.

1. You insist bringing SoM as reference and DF .. Try me if you want on my own monitor. And yes , 1080p with 900p is different. . Period. Tyr side by side comparison and youll clearly see it on a 1080p TV/Monitor if you are THAT unexperienced with 1080p gaming . Im gaming at 1080p like 7-8 years now !! You think i wont understand the difference between 2 version ?

2) So you saying 7770 = 7850 ! Dream on. Its a fact that if developers want to make something look better or play better and favor PS4 over X1 , they can do it easily. Its up to them if they want to. Again , if you cant accept a simple fact that even Ubisofts developers said to you in your face ... well .. Why we even argue , theres no way youll admit anything.

3) Dont start with me lem , i can prove you wrong anytime of the day. I hope we could make some sort of a bet and having a test on my own monitor , thats for sure. That was kinda challenging , what you said.

Yes , lemmings bragged about how better multis had over PS3. Again , google is your friend. Youll find thousands of thousands of posts. Now that cows doing the same when differences are even greater = bullshits !

Well , Google is your friend again , if you manage to make it work all your answers are out there. Its just youre a fanboy , bypassing every single fact there is out there to win an argument. Sorry , you wont win like this vs me. Because i can use google and there are so many other games than SoM out there. So please ... just go and search for yourself , dont have time for fanboy wars .... Its stupid when facts are out there to argue over stupid things. Google bro , just do it.

1. Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
2. I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
3. You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.

You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.

Quote me..

PS3 Red Dead Redemption = 1152x640 (QAA) 737,280 Pixels.

xbox 360 Red Dead Redemption = 1280x720 (2xAA) 921,600 Pixels.

184,320 Pixel difference.

Shadow Of Mordor.

XBO 1600x900p = 1,440,000 Pixels

PS4 1920x1080p = 2,073,600 Pixels

Difference 633,600 Pixels.

The gap between 1080p vs 900p is more than 3 times as big as the gap from 640p to 720p.

Oh and i didn't compare it with 720p in extreme cases like MGS5,COD Ghost where the gap is astronomical,fun thing is that those same by your words who saw a difference in 183k pixels now don't see it when it is 633k pixels and in extreme cases 1 million pixels more.

In BF4 the PS4 has a 518,400 pixel advantage again almost 3 times as big as the gap in red dead redemption but BF4 on PS4 is also 10 FPS faster across the board than the XBO version.

The gap between 720p and sub 720p was small to small,the gap this gen is big way bigger,and i prove that just now pixel counting alone.

Oh and when the power is actually apply to frames rather than resolution man the gap is huge.

Tomb Raider hit 60 FPS quite often on PS4,on xbox one is lock 30 and has scale back effects on xbox one to,on average is 20FPS faster.

SE3 the same when the xbox one version get v-synch which the PS4 version is natively,the PS4 again commands a lead as big as 30FPS as well,which is the reason why developer lock Alien Isolation on PS4 it would smoke the xbox one version frame wise.

This coming from a lemming is a joke,forgot how achievement were superior to trophies because it automatically sink yet on PS3 you had to press a button to sink.?

So pressing a button was an inconvenience but having to stand and physically change disc wasn't right.? Oh wait did you know that in Mass Effect 2 and 3 you have to change multiple times.?

How about rage a freaking FPS..lol 3 disc..lol

Unlike changing disc changing a video input requires 1 touch to my remote much like you have to press it on the xbox one controller to bring snap in,remember Kinect isn't mandatory any more.

Oh please STFU you are an apologist for MS and a huge butthurt lemming..hahaha

but but Blu-ray wasn't need it,but ever on a generation was the media so problematic and require so many games to be on multiple disc,and i had the UT 2004 version on PC which was like 6 CD because DVD wasn't standard back then on PC and many still had CD did that stopped people from changing latter on.?

The fact that Ubi hided setting on the PC version of watchdogs prove my point they will downplay games to make then look closer and avoid arguments which is a joke,since you would not like that your games get capped on PC because the PS4 can't handle then...

@tormentos: And yet, not even DF could really tell a difference. Dude, you should just let it go...

1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.

2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.

3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that

7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !

Dont cry , im just being honest!

1. Those comparisons are... where? Where are they?
2. But... they didn't. SoM on PS4 is 1080p, and it's 900p on XB1. So... that kinda kicks your point in the testes, doesn't it?
3. I am only replying so other people do not believe such ignorance. Again - show me the money. Give me some screen shots or links to articles that show this great graphics disparity between the PS4's SoM and the Xb1's SoM. You say there are 100s - show me some! I mean, I quoted Digital Foundry - the supposed benchmark for cross platform comparisons. What do you have... other than your monitor?

If the games look the same, who cares if 7770 << 7850? I am not arguing raw hardware specs.

remember this is the same guy who said 4kTVs don't upscale, when i showed him a link to my TV he claimed well maybe that does but not mine, then when i said it is mine, he asked for pics. I posted them, and he tried saying I took them at a friends house lol. tormentos is a joke who is always wrong and never admits it

I did not know about that TV incident. However, things are a lot clearer right now!!!

stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"

That is funny because on beyond3d it was stated that SOM was 900p before DF confirmation same on neogaf,it was gamespot who falsely claim it was 1080p..hahaha

In fact several post make fun of gamespot 1080p claims and sated wait for DF the game was been counted to be 900p,and it was spot on..lol

That is because most TV don't upscale and they leave that part to hardware that TV have a scaler which in other words is the same sh** samer principle either upscale by the TV or upscale to 4K by your video card still is 4K and stop talking sh** upscaling doesn't produce new pixels you idiot,is basically stretching the image to fit a desire resolution.

If upscale was the same as native no PC gamer would need a powerful GPU to play 4K native,they just upscale and be done with it.

Oh please it wasn't yours you took days to post pictures i have friends with 4K TV to should i go take pictures and claim is mine.?

The fact that you claim that upscaling created new pixels says it all you are a moron who believes native and upscale is the same..hahahaaaaaaaaaa

He is a moron who believe that upscaling create new pixels..hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

He think that because hes TV (so says he) is 4K and upscale the games to 4k that it is the same as native 4k..lol

yup keep digging your hole. all 4k TVs upscale, maybe not like a cheap cheap budget one, but anything by a decent name brand has a built in upscaler and the ones from samsung is amazing. you seen this pics. does titanfall which is 792P upscaled to 1080p from the X1 then upscaled to 4K via the TV look blurry? Nope didn't think so. it looks awesome. i know cause i play it on several times a week. Your just being stupid.

Upscaling does produce new pixels. I already proved that several times over. And i didn't take "days" as you said, I posted it the next morning. excuse me for having a life, having to work late, having kids and a wife at home that i didn't just drop everything to prove you wrong. Also i never said it is the same as native, i said that my PS4 and X1 regardless of the native resolution will get upscaled to 4k for me and there is no difference i can see between the 2. Its sad i owned you so bad you now have to resort to lying to cover up your stupidity.

really? el tormentos....

Almost all HDTV's have upscalers or upscaling abilities built into them since 2008.....

Almost all ultra HD 4K TVs, as well as with certain current tv receivers and Blu-ray players, are capable of 4K upscaling. Upscaling creates new pixels for an image by taking information from nearby pixels and duplicating it. The more pixels that have to be added, the greater potential there is for less detail and blur added to the image.

@darkangel115

So is this your alter.?

Upscaling is the process of converting a resolution to a higher one. When a high resolution TV wants to display a lower resolution, it first needs to upscale it to its native resolution. For example, a 4k TV needs to upscale a 1080p video to be able to display it on its panel.

Upscaling a video does not increase its quality. The entropy of the picture (the total information stored) is not increased, no matter how good the upscaler is. It cannot create new information or see information that isn't present in the original footage. Instead, it guesses the new pixels values based on the surrounding pixels.

To demonstrate this, the following pictures shows an example of a 1080p picture that is upscaled to 4k compared to the same native 4k picture.

http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-and-1080p-resolution-upscaling-explained

GTFO with that lame argument duplicating pixels is not the same as making new pixels,you can't make a copy of something that doesn't exist.

Is the reason why that first screen look better than the second one,the first one is native 1080p the second is upscale from 1080p to 4k and the 3rds is 4k native.

I don't even have to discuss this with you,you are suppose to be a hermit and know about resolutions the difference between native and upscale what the fu** man,and no not all TV scale unless you mean TV signals,non of my TV scale unless it is TV signal,HDMI ports don't get upscale they get what ever native resolution my devices send.

Every one freaking knows upscale blurs pictures and introduce objects,so darkabgel115 i don't even want to now how blur Titanfall fall look upscale from 792p to 1080p then to 4k by your TV...lol

@tormentos: You are correct that a native 4K image will look better than an upscaled image. But there is some good upscaling tech out there already that is doing a pretty good job of showcasing 4K T.V.'s while we are waiting for cable and satellite providers to find a way to broadcast at higher resolutions. They aren't simply just blowing up the image.

Here is an example of Sony's 4K X-Reality Pro picture engine. (I picked Sony so maybe you will actually look at it.)

http://community.sony.co.uk/t5/product-announcements-technologies/inside-4k-what-is-x-reality-pro/ba-p/1346224

And like I've said before. If you have a good Best Buy or any other good electronics store near you, you can see these upscaling demos in person. No they aren't as crisp as native 4K, but they are much better than 1080p. I think you might even be impressed by the results.

@tormentos said:

@darkangel115

@04dcarraher said:

really? el tormentos....

Almost all HDTV's have upscalers built into them ever since 2008.....

Almost all ultra HD 4K TVs, as well as with certain current tv receivers and Blu-ray players, are capable of 4K upscaling. Upscaling creates new pixels for an image by taking information from nearby pixels and duplicating it. The more pixels that have to be added, the greater potential there is for less detail and blur added to the image.

So is this your alter.?

Upscaling is the process of converting a resolution to a higher one. When a high resolution TV wants to display a lower resolution, it first needs to upscale it to its native resolution. For example, a 4k TV needs to upscale a 1080p video to be able to display it on its panel.

Upscaling a video does not increase its quality. The entropy of the picture (the total information stored) is not increased, no matter how good the upscaler is. It cannot create new information or see information that isn't present in the original footage. Instead, it guesses the new pixels values based on the surrounding pixels.

To demonstrate this, the following pictures shows an example of a 1080p picture that is upscaled to 4k compared to the same native 4k picture.

http://www.rtings.com/info/4k-and-1080p-resolution-upscaling-explained

GTFO with that lame argument duplicating pixels is not the same as making new pixels,you can't make a copy of something that doesn't exist.

Is the reason why that first screen look better than the second one,the first one is native 1080p the second is upscale from 1080p to 4k and the 3rds is 4k native.

I don't even have to discuss this with you,you are suppose to be a hermit and know about resolutions the difference between native and upscale what the fu** man,and no not all TV scale unless you mean TV signals,non of my TV scale unless it is TV signal,HDMI ports don't get upscale they get what ever native resolution my devices send.

Every one freaking knows upscale blurs pictures and introduce objects,so darkabgel115 i don't even want to now how blur Titanfall fall look upscale from 792p to 1080p then to 4k by your TV...lol

No your still an idiot, and dodging how i completely owned you. Your source is rtings? using 3 small pictures where the 1st 1080p one is already blurry? also what upscaler? all upscalers are not equal dumbass. You seen the pictures. not blurry at all, even fully upclose at a distance nobody would ever play it, its still clear as day. And no I don't have an alt, only idiots do that. Its sad you have to resort to lame webpages nobody heard of because you don't see it every day like me ;) Why don't you get a good 4k TV then come to talk me about hows its blurry or not?

this is an old article but it explains upscaling much more in depth, probably too much for your feeble mind to comprehend but i'll link it anyway so the other SW users can laugh at your stupidity.

upscaling

'Yes it does it entitle me the very best console my system can provide which in this case is better than the xbox one period because it is more powerful,if that was true we would still be playing with ps1 graphics.'

It doesn't entitle you to a superior multiplat, it's ubisofts game, they are the ones paying for it's development so please explain what right you have to dictate to them how to make there game, they don't even have to release it on the Ps4 if they don't want dude.

'If i pay freaking $500 dollars for a damn video card and i get crap graphics because a ad developer wanted to have parity i would surely be piss after all what the fu** is the point of buying stronger hardware,the fun part is that you did not used that argument last gen and you hyped the 360 superior version as well many times,i did argue with you allot about those games dude you have a memory problem.'

At one point during those arguments did i ever claim that i was entitled to the superior experience, i didn't, huge difference buddy, i didn't buy my 360 Expecting it to deliver a superior experience in multiplats to the other consoles, it got lucky and it ended up that way

If it was the person who manufactured the card developing the game then i would see your point, this is where your argument falls flat on it's face, you didn't pay Ubisoft for your Ps4, you paid SONY, please explain how the fact you paid SONY 400+ quid for your Console Obliges a third party developer who has nothing to do with SONY to create a superior experience for the console of your choice.

It does not is the correct answer

'i paid SONY 400 quid for a console so therefore Ubisoft are obliged to give me a superior game experience'-please explain how that argument makes any sense

'This coming from some one who is not on next gen is a joke,you pay the same $60 dollars i pay and you get an inferior experience,that mentality was ok on 2008 but is 2014 that shit is not acceptable any more.'

You forked out an extra 400 quid for the experience that i didn't,thats the difference.

Also, how am i getting the inferior experience? the graphics may not look as good but it's still the same game, i don't feel i am getting the inferior experience because i don't care about top end graphics, if i did i would be a PC gamer and because i saved 400 quid.

Also, i don't feel entitled to a superior experience, if a company makes a game i like i buy it if i don't like it i don't buy it simple as.

I am not an angry person like you dude, i don't Feel that the world, any person or any company owes me anything.

i know one thing, Paying 400 quid to SONY for a console does not mean that 3rd party developers who didn't see a penny of that 400 quid owe you a superior gaming experience to that of the other consoles.

If it was a SONY first party dev then i could see your point.

Your an idiot and no i did not copy and change a quote noob, also you even understand what your "proof" is talking about you cant create data from nothing but with upscaling it takes existing data and copies it fills in the surrounding area to approximate what was there before. So yes it does create new/more pixels

You are referring to pixels on a screen not data pixels right? Just to clear up any confusion.

'This coming from a lemming is a joke,forgot how achievement were superior to trophies because it automatically sink yet on PS3 you had to press a button to sink.?

So pressing a button was an inconvenience but having to stand and physically change disc wasn't right.? Oh wait did you know that in Mass Effect 2 and 3 you have to change multiple times.?'

Erm, i never said that dude, i didn't even know you had to press a button to sink your achievements on the PS3, you must be confusing me with someone else but thanks for letting me know that.

i certainly don't see pressing a button as inconvenient, i have to press a button to turn on my console but the Fact that you don't have to Press a button to sink your achievements does actually make that a superior more efficient system, basic logic

And i never ONCE stated that i could actually see the difference between multiplats on the xbox 360 and the Ps3 all i ever did was Acknowledge that the differences where there because DF said so.

And i also said the same thing back them i am saying now.

'Ps3 owners still get to play the same game'

Theres nothing wrong with my memory dude but yours is questionable, you obviously remember the things people write but you seem to have a real problem remembering who actually wrote them.

The only time i ever said Achievements where superior was because you had them for ALL games on the 360 but not all Ps3 games, to begin with, supported.

yes,

@tormentos:

No guy, you really are the fuckin joke. You have repeatedly shown you suck ballbag juice from a company that isn't even from your nationality. Did you root for Japan first in the World Cup?

DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT HAVE PROOF,............................not your fanboy conclusions. But actual proof of wrong doing in this situation? Like something a real judge of law would accept? Then STFU

@darkangel115:

I wont go so far as to say he's always wrong. But he does copy and paste informative stuff, but when others do as well, he goes to past transgressions of Nintendo and especially MS. BUT should you do that regarding Sony, it is all "ancient history; that's not relevant now" or just flat out denial.

Yeah but the fact he refuses to admit he's wrong, yet goes around in circles trying to show people they are wrong, proves he is an idiot. the fact he tried saying 4k TVs don't upscale, they stretch, i proved him wrong, then he tried saying it was that TV but not my "crappy one" which i said it is in fact my TV, then he asked for pics, i said i'd make a 1 time exception with proof, he started damage controlling it right away saying i was going to go to best buy lol. then when i posted the pics he ignored it for 5 days before i started calling him out on it, then he tried lying saying i took "days" to post it (when i posted it the next morning since i was at work and told him this ahead of time" and then saying I went to a friends house and it isn't mine, then went back to trying to say it doesn't add pixels and is still stuck on that. he was proven wrong several times over and should man up and admit it, but he won't. That makes him nothing more then a stupid troll and I hope other users here know this and hold it over him until he mans up

Google is your friend. I never said there will be some extraordinary differences between versions. But when a PS4 owner pays 59.99$ , the very same amount an X1 owner does , for the very same title ...he gets the better version most of the time , doesnt he ? 1080p vs 900p ! Why not having the best version when you paying the same price ? Same for 30 fps vs 60 fps. In an ideal world with a single platform which version of the game would you choose when you were about to pay the same amount of money ? The 1080p or 900p ? You see how hypocrites you are ?Of course every single one of you would have gone with the best version possible and thats the 1080p. Period. Undeniable fact.

Last gen you were partying over silly minor graphical differences . Now is cows time. 1080p vs 900p is a way more serious gap than some glitches here and there . You like it or not , you lems playing the most inferior version out of most multiplatform ( PC , PS4 and X1 ) and because you crying all day like you doing right now , Ubisoft decided to not favor PS4 , same as Bungie did for Destiny. Thats all there is to it. It has nothing to do with parity or i dont give a damn if you are a newbie PC gamer and you never gamed before at 1080p so you cant even tell 900p from 1080p. I really dont. The fact remains again ...

Who cares 7770 << 7850 ? The ones that playing with better resolution/fps or graphical settings or ALL 3 combined. What kind of question was that ? lol.

If you cant use google then ok ... i wont teach you how , so...

Dont cry , im just being honest.

Who is this guy said that ? Talk clearly here because you quote our posts to blame Tormentos and something looks off.

yes to clarify i'm talking about tormentos. I must have quoted the wrong thing

Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.

Some examples

Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.

Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.

Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.

So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.

Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.

Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.

Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.

But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF

and last but not least

Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did

But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.

Proved my point already with screen... nothing more to say dude you are on denial.

I'm guessing the ps4 isnt that much more powerful than xbox one so keeping them at parity was simpler so they could focus more on the PC Version since devs have more room and less constraints.

All this tech spec/paper talk is funny when the games are garbage. For example, imagine Driveclub was multiplat and 900p on xbox one and 1080p on PS4, the game is still rubbish. We know Sony is taking a hit with Driveclub on the boards and using the Assassins Creed Parity as a scapegoat is sad. Just take it on the chin and prepare your posts for early 2015 on how godly Sony is when Bloodborne drops.

No you didn't. you tok a blurry 1080P that was blown up to 4k with who knows what program and all pics were shrunk down. might as well say you have a 12 inch cock and prove it with a pic from a mile away. Go to a best buy since you clearly can't afford a 4k TV and look at the difference then come talk to me. You were wrong and the longer you carry on this denial, the dumber you look

I really wish I had been here for this. I have been sporadic with my SW reading due to a dying mother, moving to Brooklyn (the internet blows in this shithole!!!) and college classes in general. The guy is in love with an image of himself wearing a spandex suit with MB (Make Believe) on the chest for Sony Man. Its really funny.

Does that mean you WONT read the article? Because its pretty good whether you are embarrassed or not.

I'll just leave this here...

PS4 1920x900 at 30 fps = 51 million pixels / second

PC 1920x1080 at 60 fps = 124 million pixels / second

Difference = 2.43x, not including higher quality AA, AF, lighting, shadows, and texture resolution.

Consoles. Lol.

@delta3074:

He probably meant me. He brought up the DVD format being too small last gen, and at this point even the most ardent cows I personally know admit Blu ray was not necessary last gen. So I said why? Because it was inconvenient to change discs? Then the HDMI pass through should be as big a plus this gen as you never have to change inputs or pick up the remote to do so. Its a non sense issue that I threw back at him and he must have blamed you for it.

I didn't took shit you blind biased fool,did you miss the link after the screens.?

And this comes from the guy who took days to post a picture of his so call 4k tv..hahaha

Please..

I go to best buy all the freaking time,in fact every damn time i go to the mall here my entry point to the mall is best buy..hahaha

1080p upscale to 4k looks blurs,1080p native looks sharper,and 4k native own both.

Deal with it..lol

Look at the screen i posted it is a freaking FACT that upscaling blurs image,not only PC gamers now this,sites like DF had stated it many times,and you can just use DVD as reference i have been upscaling DVD since before Blu-ray,it blurs the image,i am not new to hardware i am not new to PC neither new to resolutions.

Funny how you tell other to read article did you ask him to watch my screens and to read the link i posted.? HYPOCRITE..

That isn't 900p idiot...

And math make no sense what so ever my TV has 2,073,600 pixels that is 1080p,where ever the game is 60 FPS or 30 FPS you will always get 2,073,600 pixels,that is what my display can handle,so saying 2,073,600 multiple by 60 = 124 million pixel per second is one of the most bullshit arguments and stupid math equation i have ever seen,no 1080p display can handle 124 million pixels in fact 1080p stand for 1920x1080p you multiply those 2 numbers and you get how many pixels your tv has.

By the way in what that would change that the PS4 version was superior.?

If anything the only thing you can prove is that PC is superior yeah no argument from me on that one..

Blu-ray wasn't need because a blind biased fanboy say so even that the xbox 360 is the console by far with the most games on multiple disc,but but it wasn't need it.

Wanting HD for games and not movies was a joke,i take full advantage of what my TV has to offer not half of it,not only the PS4 had a bigger format Blu-ray also meant 7.1 loss less sound which the xbox 360 totally lack.

Not only that since blu-ray had extra space textures didn't need to be as compressed,which actually helped the PS4 have better textures in may games vs the xbox 360,which used extreme compression to fit things on a DVD and still failed in many games.

So i guess picking your controller to play your games is a pay in the ass to..hahaha

The same thing any xbox fan has to press to bring snap i can press it to change a video channel,as simple as that oh and i don't have to stand up and go to my console to physically change anything.

@tormentos:

Of course I didn't tell delta to read your shit. I read it and I don't buy it completely because my PC, know it all friends say differently. But did you gloss over where I said I wont say you are always wrong? Because You are not. I just bought my first 4k monitor today (Oscar winner wave). I will bring it upstate to my desktop this weekend and see what the fuss is about myself.

At the end of the day, I bet I can find more SW vets that say I am more balanced in my appreciation of MS Nintendo and Sony than you are. How about a bet?

Damn, I love the Revolutionary War period and the setting is not often used in games, but just can't bring myself to deal with the banal gameplay of jumping from one quest marker to the next mashing the attack button to kill braindead ai.

Such a waste of potential these games with the cool settings/enviorments, but such lame quest design and piss easy combats.

@cainetao11: does your new Minotaur do 4k at 60 Hz?

and congrats

@tormentos: Did you know it's common for vertical resolution to be downscaled and horizontal resolution to be left the same, idiot? Go **** yourself.

The math, that you are too dumb to comprehend, is the number of pixels rendered per second and different resolutions at different frame rates. 60 frames per second renders twice as many pixels as 30 frames per second at equal resolutions, or are you too simple minded to understand even that? A third grader could grasp that concept.

@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."