@CrownKingArthur:
Yessir
Assassin's Creed Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."
Great Caesar's Ghost!!! Are you suggesting our Tormentos is actually.....
Peasantry at its finest, these guys are on a roll
"At Ubisoft for a long time we wanted to push 60 fps. I don't think it was a good idea because you don't gain that much from 60 fps and it doesn't look like the real thing. It's a bit like The Hobbit movie, it looked really weird.
"And in other games it's the same - like the Rachet and Clank series [where it was dropped]. So I think collectively in the video game industry we're dropping that standard because it's hard to achieve, it's twice as hard as 30fps, and its not really that great in terms of rendering quality of the picture and the image."
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/viva-la-resoluci-n-assassin-s-creed-dev-thinks-industry-is-dropping-60-fps-standard-1268241
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@tormentos:
Of course I didn't tell delta to read your shit. I read it and I don't buy it completely because my PC, know it all friends say differently. But did you gloss over where I said I wont say you are always wrong? Because You are not. I just bought my first 4k monitor today (Oscar winner wave). I will bring it upstate to my desktop this weekend and see what the fuss is about myself.
At the end of the day, I bet I can find more SW vets that say I am more balanced in my appreciation of MS Nintendo and Sony than you are. How about a bet?
So upscaling doesn't blur the image.?
You don't buy it because you are a blind biased lemming upscaling will never everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr look as sharp as native because duplicating pixels isn't the same as having all the pixel information on the spot,having 2+ million pixels on an image will never be match by having 900k and just duplicating the ones the 900k image has to match those 2 million ones.
Stop the whole bet sh** you people are like kids the xbox one is weaker,and upscale is not as good as native for the reasons already stated deal with it.
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@tormentos: Did you know it's common for vertical resolution to be downscaled and horizontal resolution to be left the same, idiot? Go **** yourself.
The math, that you are too dumb to comprehend, is the number of pixels rendered per second and different resolutions at different frame rates. 60 frames per second renders twice as many pixels as 30 frames per second at equal resolutions, or are you too simple minded to understand even that? A third grader could grasp that concept.
900p doesn't stand for 1920x900 you dumb fu**,1600x900 is 900p...lol
And the math equation you did was a joke no 1080p TV can handle 154million pixels per second,where ever the game runs at 15 frames or 100 the pixel density remains the same 2,073,600 for 1080p.
You pretend else where that you know about this sucker..lol
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@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."
You are a lemming because.
All you do is defend the xbox.
You single out sony fans because some how you think they are worse.
You ignore what ever crap even fanboy say that is wrong (like now) and you even join them on their quest.
Is not what you own what make you a lemming is who you cheer for,and i see you cheering for MS always here,and single out cows.
I argue here with a ton of so call unbiased gamers that all they do all day long is defend MS on every xbox thread,you are one,Blackace is another alto blackace is more hardcore than you,Stormy,B4X,king lemming all claim to be unbiased.
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Lemmings : X1 is in parity with PS4 , look at X and Y and Z games , same resolution and FPS. Cry us a river cows
Reality : We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff
Someone finally talked the truth openly why some games meeting this "parity" lemmings keep talking about some time now. Now you know the truth from developers themselves. Dont make it even worse for you with fanboyistic statements , accept the facts and move on.
Go on the net and find videos, screenshots, whatever of Shadow of Mordor and post where this great visual advantage the PS4 has over the XBox One. Good luck - even DF said the differences are so minor that they had to really look for them.
But hey, you want to hang your hat on that minor of a difference, go ahead. Just know that us rational people are looking at you like you really have too much time on your hands.
I dont care about Shadow of Mordor , i care about Truth. And developers have spoken. Also i care about facts. A freaking low 7770 will never be an 7850. Its impossible , period. So with that being said , as i said way back ( i can link you ) , since theres a considerable gap in graphical power is UP TO DEVELOPERS ( caps to emphasize my point ) if they want to consider it and provide a slightly better visual result or not. Ubisoft statement is all you need . Period
If you denying every single word i said above then we dont have anything else to discuss ! People that denying the facts and truth over their personal preference or opinion , similar to fanboys , are not good on arguments.
1) So what if there is a difference in GPU performance? If the games look the same, they look the same.
2) Does it matter if one car has 100HP more than another if they both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds?
3) 900p and 1080p pretty much look the same. DF admitted they had a tough time telling the two versions of SoM apart.
1) If a game looks the same means that was a developers decision and not that X1 magically became even with PS4 as most lems trying to say, period. Ubisoft statement says it all. Now if a developer wants to not make both versions identical then you can see better lighting or shadow or resolution or FPS or all together , favoring PS4 of course.
2) It does matter if the driver ( developer ) wants to go beyond the quarter mile , some do so , so are you sure both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds at all times? Dont think so. Many examples out there , google them.
3) If you are gaming 1080p for years , like i do , 1080p vs 900p is 3 seconds case in order to tell what is what. Same as 30fps vs 60 fps. In most cases is less than 3 seconds also.
The funny thing is that you lems , all of you , praised X360 superiority on most multis vs PS3 when differences was indeed tiny. Games were running same FPS / Resolution / graphic settings etc ( 95% of the cases ). Now that graphics war favors clearly PS4 with better graphic settings / fps / resolution ..you name it , in most of occasions ...They dont matter and above all its hard to see them ? Isnt that hypocrisy at its finnest ?
Then open your eyes and check side by side comparisons by unbiased gamers/sites/graphic junkies around the internet. There are hundreds of such videos thats clearing up any doubt. Dont try to sound like X1 is in parity with PS4 on graphics. 7770 is a low end GPU , cant deal with 7850. Its up to developers if there will be parity or not. So cross your fingers every single time, thats all you can do in order to call "parity".
- Not true. The developers made Shadow of Mordor 1080p for PS4 and 900p for Xbox One, and DF had a tough time telling the difference. Mainly, because despite what cows say, there isn't much of a difference. You can't even find any sites - any - that back you up.
- What? If Car and Driver both performance test a car's quarter mile, it is what it is.
- Not true. Sorry, but even DF had a hard time telling the difference. And don't pull that "if you have been gaming since..." crap with me. This is my 2nd account, my first one "dabear", is from 2001.
No, lemmings laughed that the 360 had any advantage, despite all the "teh powah of teh cell" banter that cows threw around. Again, you are not correct on the differences. Here, I'll make it easy on you - go to any site that has a graphics comparison of SoM, and show me where this glaring graphics advantage is pointed out.
1. You insist bringing SoM as reference and DF .. Try me if you want on my own monitor. And yes , 1080p with 900p is different. . Period. Tyr side by side comparison and youll clearly see it on a 1080p TV/Monitor if you are THAT unexperienced with 1080p gaming . Im gaming at 1080p like 7-8 years now !! You think i wont understand the difference between 2 version ?
2) So you saying 7770 = 7850 ! Dream on. Its a fact that if developers want to make something look better or play better and favor PS4 over X1 , they can do it easily. Its up to them if they want to. Again , if you cant accept a simple fact that even Ubisofts developers said to you in your face ... well .. Why we even argue , theres no way youll admit anything.
3) Dont start with me lem , i can prove you wrong anytime of the day. I hope we could make some sort of a bet and having a test on my own monitor , thats for sure. That was kinda challenging , what you said.
Yes , lemmings bragged about how better multis had over PS3. Again , google is your friend. Youll find thousands of thousands of posts. Now that cows doing the same when differences are even greater = bullshits !
Well , Google is your friend again , if you manage to make it work all your answers are out there. Its just youre a fanboy , bypassing every single fact there is out there to win an argument. Sorry , you wont win like this vs me. Because i can use google and there are so many other games than SoM out there. So please ... just go and search for yourself , dont have time for fanboy wars .... Its stupid when facts are out there to argue over stupid things. Google bro , just do it.
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
- Those comparisons are... where? Where are they?
- But... they didn't. SoM on PS4 is 1080p, and it's 900p on XB1. So... that kinda kicks your point in the testes, doesn't it?
- I am only replying so other people do not believe such ignorance. Again - show me the money. Give me some screen shots or links to articles that show this great graphics disparity between the PS4's SoM and the Xb1's SoM. You say there are 100s - show me some! I mean, I quoted Digital Foundry - the supposed benchmark for cross platform comparisons. What do you have... other than your monitor?
If the games look the same, who cares if 7770 << 7850? I am not arguing raw hardware specs.
Google is your friend. I never said there will be some extraordinary differences between versions. But when a PS4 owner pays 59.99$ , the very same amount an X1 owner does , for the very same title ...he gets the better version most of the time , doesnt he ? 1080p vs 900p ! Why not having the best version when you paying the same price ? Same for 30 fps vs 60 fps. In an ideal world with a single platform which version of the game would you choose when you were about to pay the same amount of money ? The 1080p or 900p ? You see how hypocrites you are ?Of course every single one of you would have gone with the best version possible and thats the 1080p. Period. Undeniable fact.
Last gen you were partying over silly minor graphical differences . Now is cows time. 1080p vs 900p is a way more serious gap than some glitches here and there . You like it or not , you lems playing the most inferior version out of most multiplatform ( PC , PS4 and X1 ) and because you crying all day like you doing right now , Ubisoft decided to not favor PS4 , same as Bungie did for Destiny. Thats all there is to it. It has nothing to do with parity or i dont give a damn if you are a newbie PC gamer and you never gamed before at 1080p so you cant even tell 900p from 1080p. I really dont. The fact remains again ...
Who cares 7770 << 7850 ? The ones that playing with better resolution/fps or graphical settings or ALL 3 combined. What kind of question was that ? lol.
If you cant use google then ok ... i wont teach you how , so...
Dont cry , im just being honest.
I haven't seen this much sidestepping since the last elections...
Google is my friend, huh? You know what that says? I won this whole thing. You have no evidence to backup what you say at all - all you have is your cow-glasses. Anyway, on to futher debunking your goofy points...
You said "significant difference". You said that if you could not see a difference, you are blind. Yes - you may not have said the words "there is extraordinary differences", but you certainly inferred it. Don't insult my intelligence by stating that you did not - you know you did, and so do I.
"Better" version? A difference so small that a division of a gaming site dedicated to pointing out the differences has difficulty doing so. That is what you are hanging your hat on. You are arguing from a position of weakness.
Last gen, it was an issue because of Sony and cows boasting over the "power of the cell", which never came into fruition. No one in the MS camp is saying the XB1 has better raw hardware specs. Even so, how pathetic and petty are you that you would decide to do some sort of "pseudo payback" on a gaming forum?
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@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."
You are a lemming because.
All you do is defend the xbox.
You single out sony fans because some how you think they are worse.
You ignore what ever crap even fanboy say that is wrong (like now) and you even join them on their quest.
Is not what you own what make you a lemming is who you cheer for,and i see you cheering for MS always here,and single out cows.
I argue here with a ton of so call unbiased gamers that all they do all day long is defend MS on every xbox thread,you are one,Blackace is another alto blackace is more hardcore than you,Stormy,B4X,king lemming all claim to be unbiased.
Your view of me being a Lemming is skewed because when I am debating you, its in a anti Xbox One thread. 90% of your posts are in anti Xbox One threads. I post in PC, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft threads since I game on all platforms and handhelds. Find a quote of me defending Xbox and I will find 5 that I am critical of it. Find a quote where I am critical of the PS4 and I will find even more quotes where I am positive towards it. And I sure as hell am not cheering for M$. If I'm cheering on any company it's Nintendo.
As for calling out Cows, I have stated this many times as well. I am really only calling you out because you actually believe everything you say. Trolls are just having fun while you would give your first born for a Sony victory.
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- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
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Lemmings : X1 is in parity with PS4 , look at X and Y and Z games , same resolution and FPS. Cry us a river cows
Reality : We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff
Someone finally talked the truth openly why some games meeting this "parity" lemmings keep talking about some time now. Now you know the truth from developers themselves. Dont make it even worse for you with fanboyistic statements , accept the facts and move on.
Go on the net and find videos, screenshots, whatever of Shadow of Mordor and post where this great visual advantage the PS4 has over the XBox One. Good luck - even DF said the differences are so minor that they had to really look for them.
But hey, you want to hang your hat on that minor of a difference, go ahead. Just know that us rational people are looking at you like you really have too much time on your hands.
I dont care about Shadow of Mordor , i care about Truth. And developers have spoken. Also i care about facts. A freaking low 7770 will never be an 7850. Its impossible , period. So with that being said , as i said way back ( i can link you ) , since theres a considerable gap in graphical power is UP TO DEVELOPERS ( caps to emphasize my point ) if they want to consider it and provide a slightly better visual result or not. Ubisoft statement is all you need . Period
If you denying every single word i said above then we dont have anything else to discuss ! People that denying the facts and truth over their personal preference or opinion , similar to fanboys , are not good on arguments.
1) So what if there is a difference in GPU performance? If the games look the same, they look the same.
2) Does it matter if one car has 100HP more than another if they both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds?
3) 900p and 1080p pretty much look the same. DF admitted they had a tough time telling the two versions of SoM apart.
1) If a game looks the same means that was a developers decision and not that X1 magically became even with PS4 as most lems trying to say, period. Ubisoft statement says it all. Now if a developer wants to not make both versions identical then you can see better lighting or shadow or resolution or FPS or all together , favoring PS4 of course.
2) It does matter if the driver ( developer ) wants to go beyond the quarter mile , some do so , so are you sure both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds at all times? Dont think so. Many examples out there , google them.
3) If you are gaming 1080p for years , like i do , 1080p vs 900p is 3 seconds case in order to tell what is what. Same as 30fps vs 60 fps. In most cases is less than 3 seconds also.
The funny thing is that you lems , all of you , praised X360 superiority on most multis vs PS3 when differences was indeed tiny. Games were running same FPS / Resolution / graphic settings etc ( 95% of the cases ). Now that graphics war favors clearly PS4 with better graphic settings / fps / resolution ..you name it , in most of occasions ...They dont matter and above all its hard to see them ? Isnt that hypocrisy at its finnest ?
Then open your eyes and check side by side comparisons by unbiased gamers/sites/graphic junkies around the internet. There are hundreds of such videos thats clearing up any doubt. Dont try to sound like X1 is in parity with PS4 on graphics. 7770 is a low end GPU , cant deal with 7850. Its up to developers if there will be parity or not. So cross your fingers every single time, thats all you can do in order to call "parity".
- Not true. The developers made Shadow of Mordor 1080p for PS4 and 900p for Xbox One, and DF had a tough time telling the difference. Mainly, because despite what cows say, there isn't much of a difference. You can't even find any sites - any - that back you up.
- What? If Car and Driver both performance test a car's quarter mile, it is what it is.
- Not true. Sorry, but even DF had a hard time telling the difference. And don't pull that "if you have been gaming since..." crap with me. This is my 2nd account, my first one "dabear", is from 2001.
No, lemmings laughed that the 360 had any advantage, despite all the "teh powah of teh cell" banter that cows threw around. Again, you are not correct on the differences. Here, I'll make it easy on you - go to any site that has a graphics comparison of SoM, and show me where this glaring graphics advantage is pointed out.
1. You insist bringing SoM as reference and DF .. Try me if you want on my own monitor. And yes , 1080p with 900p is different. . Period. Tyr side by side comparison and youll clearly see it on a 1080p TV/Monitor if you are THAT unexperienced with 1080p gaming . Im gaming at 1080p like 7-8 years now !! You think i wont understand the difference between 2 version ?
2) So you saying 7770 = 7850 ! Dream on. Its a fact that if developers want to make something look better or play better and favor PS4 over X1 , they can do it easily. Its up to them if they want to. Again , if you cant accept a simple fact that even Ubisofts developers said to you in your face ... well .. Why we even argue , theres no way youll admit anything.
3) Dont start with me lem , i can prove you wrong anytime of the day. I hope we could make some sort of a bet and having a test on my own monitor , thats for sure. That was kinda challenging , what you said.
Yes , lemmings bragged about how better multis had over PS3. Again , google is your friend. Youll find thousands of thousands of posts. Now that cows doing the same when differences are even greater = bullshits !
Well , Google is your friend again , if you manage to make it work all your answers are out there. Its just youre a fanboy , bypassing every single fact there is out there to win an argument. Sorry , you wont win like this vs me. Because i can use google and there are so many other games than SoM out there. So please ... just go and search for yourself , dont have time for fanboy wars .... Its stupid when facts are out there to argue over stupid things. Google bro , just do it.
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
- Those comparisons are... where? Where are they?
- But... they didn't. SoM on PS4 is 1080p, and it's 900p on XB1. So... that kinda kicks your point in the testes, doesn't it?
- I am only replying so other people do not believe such ignorance. Again - show me the money. Give me some screen shots or links to articles that show this great graphics disparity between the PS4's SoM and the Xb1's SoM. You say there are 100s - show me some! I mean, I quoted Digital Foundry - the supposed benchmark for cross platform comparisons. What do you have... other than your monitor?
If the games look the same, who cares if 7770 << 7850? I am not arguing raw hardware specs.
Google is your friend. I never said there will be some extraordinary differences between versions. But when a PS4 owner pays 59.99$ , the very same amount an X1 owner does , for the very same title ...he gets the better version most of the time , doesnt he ? 1080p vs 900p ! Why not having the best version when you paying the same price ? Same for 30 fps vs 60 fps. In an ideal world with a single platform which version of the game would you choose when you were about to pay the same amount of money ? The 1080p or 900p ? You see how hypocrites you are ?Of course every single one of you would have gone with the best version possible and thats the 1080p. Period. Undeniable fact.
Last gen you were partying over silly minor graphical differences . Now is cows time. 1080p vs 900p is a way more serious gap than some glitches here and there . You like it or not , you lems playing the most inferior version out of most multiplatform ( PC , PS4 and X1 ) and because you crying all day like you doing right now , Ubisoft decided to not favor PS4 , same as Bungie did for Destiny. Thats all there is to it. It has nothing to do with parity or i dont give a damn if you are a newbie PC gamer and you never gamed before at 1080p so you cant even tell 900p from 1080p. I really dont. The fact remains again ...
Who cares 7770 << 7850 ? The ones that playing with better resolution/fps or graphical settings or ALL 3 combined. What kind of question was that ? lol.
If you cant use google then ok ... i wont teach you how , so...
Dont cry , im just being honest.
I haven't seen this much sidestepping since the last elections...
Google is my friend, huh? You know what that says? I won this whole thing. You have no evidence to backup what you say at all - all you have is your cow-glasses. Anyway, on to futher debunking your goofy points...
You said "significant difference". You said that if you could not see a difference, you are blind. Yes - you may not have said the words "there is extraordinary differences", but you certainly inferred it. Don't insult my intelligence by stating that you did not - you know you did, and so do I.
"Better" version? A difference so small that a division of a gaming site dedicated to pointing out the differences has difficulty doing so. That is what you are hanging your hat on. You are arguing from a position of weakness.
Last gen, it was an issue because of Sony and cows boasting over the "power of the cell", which never came into fruition. No one in the MS camp is saying the XB1 has better raw hardware specs. Even so, how pathetic and petty are you that you would decide to do some sort of "pseudo payback" on a gaming forum?
Cry me a river all day long. Since there IS difference , slight one or big one ( BF4 anyone? ) , PS4 is ahead. Period. Now since i go with my original post you fanboy , its UP TO DEVELOPERS if they want to make their games to look better on PS4 is NOT that X1 is on parity with PS4.
Deny all the facts i bring in your face , i love it when you talking irrelevant craps because facts hurting your already butthurt little ass ! Thats why im here ! Cry me a rive all day long , ill keep coming with facts , one after the other. I got all day , bring it.
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- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
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Lemmings : X1 is in parity with PS4 , look at X and Y and Z games , same resolution and FPS. Cry us a river cows
Reality : We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff
Someone finally talked the truth openly why some games meeting this "parity" lemmings keep talking about some time now. Now you know the truth from developers themselves. Dont make it even worse for you with fanboyistic statements , accept the facts and move on.
Go on the net and find videos, screenshots, whatever of Shadow of Mordor and post where this great visual advantage the PS4 has over the XBox One. Good luck - even DF said the differences are so minor that they had to really look for them.
But hey, you want to hang your hat on that minor of a difference, go ahead. Just know that us rational people are looking at you like you really have too much time on your hands.
I dont care about Shadow of Mordor , i care about Truth. And developers have spoken. Also i care about facts. A freaking low 7770 will never be an 7850. Its impossible , period. So with that being said , as i said way back ( i can link you ) , since theres a considerable gap in graphical power is UP TO DEVELOPERS ( caps to emphasize my point ) if they want to consider it and provide a slightly better visual result or not. Ubisoft statement is all you need . Period
If you denying every single word i said above then we dont have anything else to discuss ! People that denying the facts and truth over their personal preference or opinion , similar to fanboys , are not good on arguments.
1) So what if there is a difference in GPU performance? If the games look the same, they look the same.
2) Does it matter if one car has 100HP more than another if they both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds?
3) 900p and 1080p pretty much look the same. DF admitted they had a tough time telling the two versions of SoM apart.
1) If a game looks the same means that was a developers decision and not that X1 magically became even with PS4 as most lems trying to say, period. Ubisoft statement says it all. Now if a developer wants to not make both versions identical then you can see better lighting or shadow or resolution or FPS or all together , favoring PS4 of course.
2) It does matter if the driver ( developer ) wants to go beyond the quarter mile , some do so , so are you sure both do a quarter mile in 12 seconds at all times? Dont think so. Many examples out there , google them.
3) If you are gaming 1080p for years , like i do , 1080p vs 900p is 3 seconds case in order to tell what is what. Same as 30fps vs 60 fps. In most cases is less than 3 seconds also.
The funny thing is that you lems , all of you , praised X360 superiority on most multis vs PS3 when differences was indeed tiny. Games were running same FPS / Resolution / graphic settings etc ( 95% of the cases ). Now that graphics war favors clearly PS4 with better graphic settings / fps / resolution ..you name it , in most of occasions ...They dont matter and above all its hard to see them ? Isnt that hypocrisy at its finnest ?
Then open your eyes and check side by side comparisons by unbiased gamers/sites/graphic junkies around the internet. There are hundreds of such videos thats clearing up any doubt. Dont try to sound like X1 is in parity with PS4 on graphics. 7770 is a low end GPU , cant deal with 7850. Its up to developers if there will be parity or not. So cross your fingers every single time, thats all you can do in order to call "parity".
- Not true. The developers made Shadow of Mordor 1080p for PS4 and 900p for Xbox One, and DF had a tough time telling the difference. Mainly, because despite what cows say, there isn't much of a difference. You can't even find any sites - any - that back you up.
- What? If Car and Driver both performance test a car's quarter mile, it is what it is.
- Not true. Sorry, but even DF had a hard time telling the difference. And don't pull that "if you have been gaming since..." crap with me. This is my 2nd account, my first one "dabear", is from 2001.
No, lemmings laughed that the 360 had any advantage, despite all the "teh powah of teh cell" banter that cows threw around. Again, you are not correct on the differences. Here, I'll make it easy on you - go to any site that has a graphics comparison of SoM, and show me where this glaring graphics advantage is pointed out.
1. You insist bringing SoM as reference and DF .. Try me if you want on my own monitor. And yes , 1080p with 900p is different. . Period. Tyr side by side comparison and youll clearly see it on a 1080p TV/Monitor if you are THAT unexperienced with 1080p gaming . Im gaming at 1080p like 7-8 years now !! You think i wont understand the difference between 2 version ?
2) So you saying 7770 = 7850 ! Dream on. Its a fact that if developers want to make something look better or play better and favor PS4 over X1 , they can do it easily. Its up to them if they want to. Again , if you cant accept a simple fact that even Ubisofts developers said to you in your face ... well .. Why we even argue , theres no way youll admit anything.
3) Dont start with me lem , i can prove you wrong anytime of the day. I hope we could make some sort of a bet and having a test on my own monitor , thats for sure. That was kinda challenging , what you said.
Yes , lemmings bragged about how better multis had over PS3. Again , google is your friend. Youll find thousands of thousands of posts. Now that cows doing the same when differences are even greater = bullshits !
Well , Google is your friend again , if you manage to make it work all your answers are out there. Its just youre a fanboy , bypassing every single fact there is out there to win an argument. Sorry , you wont win like this vs me. Because i can use google and there are so many other games than SoM out there. So please ... just go and search for yourself , dont have time for fanboy wars .... Its stupid when facts are out there to argue over stupid things. Google bro , just do it.
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
- Those comparisons are... where? Where are they?
- But... they didn't. SoM on PS4 is 1080p, and it's 900p on XB1. So... that kinda kicks your point in the testes, doesn't it?
- I am only replying so other people do not believe such ignorance. Again - show me the money. Give me some screen shots or links to articles that show this great graphics disparity between the PS4's SoM and the Xb1's SoM. You say there are 100s - show me some! I mean, I quoted Digital Foundry - the supposed benchmark for cross platform comparisons. What do you have... other than your monitor?
If the games look the same, who cares if 7770 << 7850? I am not arguing raw hardware specs.
Google is your friend. I never said there will be some extraordinary differences between versions. But when a PS4 owner pays 59.99$ , the very same amount an X1 owner does , for the very same title ...he gets the better version most of the time , doesnt he ? 1080p vs 900p ! Why not having the best version when you paying the same price ? Same for 30 fps vs 60 fps. In an ideal world with a single platform which version of the game would you choose when you were about to pay the same amount of money ? The 1080p or 900p ? You see how hypocrites you are ?Of course every single one of you would have gone with the best version possible and thats the 1080p. Period. Undeniable fact.
Last gen you were partying over silly minor graphical differences . Now is cows time. 1080p vs 900p is a way more serious gap than some glitches here and there . You like it or not , you lems playing the most inferior version out of most multiplatform ( PC , PS4 and X1 ) and because you crying all day like you doing right now , Ubisoft decided to not favor PS4 , same as Bungie did for Destiny. Thats all there is to it. It has nothing to do with parity or i dont give a damn if you are a newbie PC gamer and you never gamed before at 1080p so you cant even tell 900p from 1080p. I really dont. The fact remains again ...
Who cares 7770 << 7850 ? The ones that playing with better resolution/fps or graphical settings or ALL 3 combined. What kind of question was that ? lol.
If you cant use google then ok ... i wont teach you how , so...
Dont cry , im just being honest.
I haven't seen this much sidestepping since the last elections...
Google is my friend, huh? You know what that says? I won this whole thing. You have no evidence to backup what you say at all - all you have is your cow-glasses. Anyway, on to futher debunking your goofy points...
You said "significant difference". You said that if you could not see a difference, you are blind. Yes - you may not have said the words "there is extraordinary differences", but you certainly inferred it. Don't insult my intelligence by stating that you did not - you know you did, and so do I.
"Better" version? A difference so small that a division of a gaming site dedicated to pointing out the differences has difficulty doing so. That is what you are hanging your hat on. You are arguing from a position of weakness.
Last gen, it was an issue because of Sony and cows boasting over the "power of the cell", which never came into fruition. No one in the MS camp is saying the XB1 has better raw hardware specs. Even so, how pathetic and petty are you that you would decide to do some sort of "pseudo payback" on a gaming forum?
Cry me a river all day long. Since there IS difference , slight one or big one ( BF4 anyone? ) , PS4 is ahead. Period. Now since i go with my original post you fanboy , its UP TO DEVELOPERS if they want to make their games to look better on PS4 is NOT that X1 is on parity with PS4.
Deny all the facts i bring in your face , i love it when you talking irrelevant craps because facts hurting your already butthurt little ass ! Thats why im here ! Cry me a rive all day long , ill keep coming with facts , one after the other. I got all day , bring it.
Oh, here we go with "cry" and "butthurt". I was so close to having a legit debate with someone, and you de-evolved into a fanboy. So sad.
Facts... I am wondering if you even know the definition.
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I haven't seen this much sidestepping since the last elections...
Google is my friend, huh? You know what that says? I won this whole thing. You have no evidence to backup what you say at all - all you have is your cow-glasses. Anyway, on to futher debunking your goofy points...
You said "significant difference". You said that if you could not see a difference, you are blind. Yes - you may not have said the words "there is extraordinary differences", but you certainly inferred it. Don't insult my intelligence by stating that you did not - you know you did, and so do I.
"Better" version? A difference so small that a division of a gaming site dedicated to pointing out the differences has difficulty doing so. That is what you are hanging your hat on. You are arguing from a position of weakness.
Last gen, it was an issue because of Sony and cows boasting over the "power of the cell", which never came into fruition. No one in the MS camp is saying the XB1 has better raw hardware specs. Even so, how pathetic and petty are you that you would decide to do some sort of "pseudo payback" on a gaming forum?
Cry me a river all day long. Since there IS difference , slight one or big one ( BF4 anyone? ) , PS4 is ahead. Period. Now since i go with my original post you fanboy , its UP TO DEVELOPERS if they want to make their games to look better on PS4 is NOT that X1 is on parity with PS4.
Deny all the facts i bring in your face , i love it when you talking irrelevant craps because facts hurting your already butthurt little ass ! Thats why im here ! Cry me a rive all day long , ill keep coming with facts , one after the other. I got all day , bring it.
Oh, here we go with "cry" and "butthurt". I was so close to having a legit debate with someone, and you de-evolved into a fanboy. So sad.
Facts... I am wondering if you even know the definition.
Oh no its the " i dont see any facts " guy that wants to argue for ... a god knows what reason. I got a post with big black bold letters. Answer to each one of the facts i provide , argue if you want. .. you wont though because you know theres nothing to argue about them. They are facts. So , we dont have anything else to discuss. My first original post and the black bold letters post its all you need to cry me a river. Ill go with that. If you have anything valid to say about those facts ,bring it.
If not .... whatever !! I dont care ... Facts remain whatever you say !!!! So...
Dont cry , im just being honest.
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- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
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- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
The
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@Krelian-co said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
Again, what facts? Let's review...
- Is it up to developers to make a game the best it can be on each platform ? Yes - and they did that with Shadow of Mordor. Guess what? The games still looked the same. So, your "fact" is moot, because the end result was parity.
- Did Ubisoft say "We are going to make both versions identical". Yes. Why? Because there isn't much a discernible difference between a 900p game and a 1080p game on a console. So, they figure, why give dumb fanboys ammunition. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror.
- Parity =/= equal. Things can be on par with each other and not be equal. A car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is on par with a car that does the same 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds, yet 3.4 =/= 3.5.
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
There ya have it. #4 is swell, I guess. But 1 through 3 are kinda bs.
Again with the crying comments. Exactly why would I be crying when I am having so much fun? Tears of laughter, maybe...
@speedfreak48t5p said:
Xbox One holding back the PS4 confirmed. Thanks Lemmings.
More like the CPU's on the PS4 and XB1 holding back the 1080P resolution. Devs could get 1080P on both if they removed 1/2 those NPC with each having it's own A.I. intergrated. Thanks Ubisoft.
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@GrenadeLauncher said:
I'm laughing so hard. I never thought any publisher would not only be dumb enough to do it but then publicly announce the reason. They don't even give lems the benefit of ambiguity.
Ubisoft never said any console was holding anything back. LMAO!! They basically said the PS4 & XB1 CPU's are weak. How does that relate to either console holding the other back? You cows are delusional.
@Heil68 said:
As Smokey Joe said
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
AWWWW YEAHHHHH
It's uncanny how the two consoles coincide with their fan base...
X1 = Balanced
PS4 = Unbalanced.
Good stuff eh. :P
@cainetao11 said:
@darkangel115 said:
@cainetao11 said:
@darkangel115:
I wont go so far as to say he's always wrong. But he does copy and paste informative stuff, but when others do as well, he goes to past transgressions of Nintendo and especially MS. BUT should you do that regarding Sony, it is all "ancient history; that's not relevant now" or just flat out denial.
Yeah but the fact he refuses to admit he's wrong, yet goes around in circles trying to show people they are wrong, proves he is an idiot. the fact he tried saying 4k TVs don't upscale, they stretch, i proved him wrong, then he tried saying it was that TV but not my "crappy one" which i said it is in fact my TV, then he asked for pics, i said i'd make a 1 time exception with proof, he started damage controlling it right away saying i was going to go to best buy lol. then when i posted the pics he ignored it for 5 days before i started calling him out on it, then he tried lying saying i took "days" to post it (when i posted it the next morning since i was at work and told him this ahead of time" and then saying I went to a friends house and it isn't mine, then went back to trying to say it doesn't add pixels and is still stuck on that. he was proven wrong several times over and should man up and admit it, but he won't. That makes him nothing more then a stupid troll and I hope other users here know this and hold it over him until he mans up
I really wish I had been here for this. I have been sporadic with my SW reading due to a dying mother, moving to Brooklyn (the internet blows in this shithole!!!) and college classes in general. The guy is in love with an image of himself wearing a spandex suit with MB (Make Believe) on the chest for Sony Man. Its really funny.
click me
It starts there and goes on for about 3 pages. have fun ;)
@SecretPolice said:
@Heil68 said:
As Smokey Joe said
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
AWWWW YEAHHHHH
It's uncanny how the two consoles coincide with their fan base...
X1 = Balanced
PS4 = Unbalanced.
Good stuff eh. :P
Well I have utopia and own both. :P
@Heil68 said:
@SecretPolice said:
@Heil68 said:
As Smokey Joe said
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
AWWWW YEAHHHHH
It's uncanny how the two consoles coincide with their fan base...
X1 = Balanced
PS4 = Unbalanced.
Good stuff eh. :P
Well I have utopia and own both. :P
You da man, I have neither... " runs away crying " :P
@SecretPolice said:
@Heil68 said:
@SecretPolice said:
@Heil68 said:
As Smokey Joe said
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
AWWWW YEAHHHHH
It's uncanny how the two consoles coincide with their fan base...
X1 = Balanced
PS4 = Unbalanced.
Good stuff eh. :P
Well I have utopia and own both. :P
You da man, I have neither... " runs away crying " :P
I'm shocked that I have an xbone before you. :P
@tormentos said:
@darkangel115 said:
No you didn't. you tok a blurry 1080P that was blown up to 4k with who knows what program and all pics were shrunk down. might as well say you have a 12 inch cock and prove it with a pic from a mile away. Go to a best buy since you clearly can't afford a 4k TV and look at the difference then come talk to me. You were wrong and the longer you carry on this denial, the dumber you look
I didn't took shit you blind biased fool,did you miss the link after the screens.?
And this comes from the guy who took days to post a picture of his so call 4k tv..hahaha
Please..
I go to best buy all the freaking time,in fact every damn time i go to the mall here my entry point to the mall is best buy..hahaha
1080p upscale to 4k looks blurs,1080p native looks sharper,and 4k native own both.
Deal with it..lol
@cainetao11 said:
Does that mean you WONT read the article? Because its pretty good whether you are embarrassed or not.
Look at the screen i posted it is a freaking FACT that upscaling blurs image,not only PC gamers now this,sites like DF had stated it many times,and you can just use DVD as reference i have been upscaling DVD since before Blu-ray,it blurs the image,i am not new to hardware i am not new to PC neither new to resolutions.
Funny how you tell other to read article did you ask him to watch my screens and to read the link i posted.? HYPOCRITE..
@mikhail said:
I'll just leave this here...
PS4 1920x900 at 30 fps = 51 million pixels / second
PC 1920x1080 at 60 fps = 124 million pixels / second
Difference = 2.43x, not including higher quality AA, AF, lighting, shadows, and texture resolution.
Consoles. Lol.
That isn't 900p idiot...
And math make no sense what so ever my TV has 2,073,600 pixels that is 1080p,where ever the game is 60 FPS or 30 FPS you will always get 2,073,600 pixels,that is what my display can handle,so saying 2,073,600 multiple by 60 = 124 million pixel per second is one of the most bullshit arguments and stupid math equation i have ever seen,no 1080p display can handle 124 million pixels in fact 1080p stand for 1920x1080p you multiply those 2 numbers and you get how many pixels your tv has.
By the way in what that would change that the PS4 version was superior.?
If anything the only thing you can prove is that PC is superior yeah no argument from me on that one..
@cainetao11 said:
@delta3074:
He probably meant me. He brought up the DVD format being too small last gen, and at this point even the most ardent cows I personally know admit Blu ray was not necessary last gen. So I said why? Because it was inconvenient to change discs? Then the HDMI pass through should be as big a plus this gen as you never have to change inputs or pick up the remote to do so. Its a non sense issue that I threw back at him and he must have blamed you for it.
Blu-ray wasn't need because a blind biased fanboy say so even that the xbox 360 is the console by far with the most games on multiple disc,but but it wasn't need it.
Wanting HD for games and not movies was a joke,i take full advantage of what my TV has to offer not half of it,not only the PS4 had a bigger format Blu-ray also meant 7.1 loss less sound which the xbox 360 totally lack.
Not only that since blu-ray had extra space textures didn't need to be as compressed,which actually helped the PS4 have better textures in may games vs the xbox 360,which used extreme compression to fit things on a DVD and still failed in many games.
So i guess picking your controller to play your games is a pay in the ass to..hahaha
The same thing any xbox fan has to press to bring snap i can press it to change a video channel,as simple as that oh and i don't have to stand up and go to my console to physically change anything.
Again why do you need to lie? I posted it the next morning, from when i promised it, So why do you say i took days which implies at least 48 hours. Do you want me to linky link that to show how again your are a lying idiot trying to save face? well ok why not.
where i agreed agreed post 197 and 6 days 22 hours ago as of this post
Where i posted a SS SS Post 251 and 5 days 22 hours ago as of this post
So according to gamespot its exactly 24 hours, so you wanna keep lying about this "took days to post a picture BS" Like i said, i have a family wife and kids, pets, job etc. I don't just sit on my ass all day by myself doing nothing but trolling on forums like you tormentos. And no you are all wrong. Not only that, but regardless you are held back by your display. a cheap 200 dollar 1080p display will not look as good as a nice name brand 720p display. All upscalers are not equal either, You can't get a real comparison using a pic and who knows what upscaler (most likely photoshop) in a still picture compared to playing a game upscaled on a large TV with its built in upscaler for a few feet away
@GoldenElementXL said:
@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."
This post pretty much nails it
@tormentos:
So upscaling doesn't blur the image.?
You don't buy it because you are a blind biased lemming upscaling will never everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr look as sharp as native because duplicating pixels isn't the same as having all the pixel information on the spot,having 2+ million pixels on an image will never be match by having 900k and just duplicating the ones the 900k image has to match those 2 million ones.
Stop the whole bet sh** you people are like kids the xbox one is weaker,and upscale is not as good as native for the reasons already stated deal with it.
Upscaling is not as clean as native no doubt, but it never has been blurry to me. You know what blurry is? Swimming under water without goggles on. Exaggerate much Tormentos.? As for stop the whole bet shit HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@darkangel115 said:
@GoldenElementXL said:
@cainetao11: If you knew anything about Tormentos you would know he is the least "balanced" of any user here. If you say ANYTHING critical of Sony you are a closet Lemming. I currently own a PS1, PS2, PS3, a Vita and PS4 but am called a closet Lemming by Tormentos daily. I guess owning a PS4 and 12 PS4 games isn't enough of a commitment to Sony for him. And if you haven't figured it out by now, you should know that he doesn't read ANY links or articles that anyone posts. Only his "proof" counts as evidence. Anything else is just you attempting to "damage control."
This post pretty much nails it
Yeah I was told the same thing months back by him even though I have owned every PlayStation and PSP and now Vita. I fully admit to having a nationalistic thing for the Xbox as most of the guys in my unit did. You just get that way when serving, but none of us let it stop us from playing what we want on whatever we want. Tormentos is another level, and since I have been here always has been.
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
The
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@Krelian-co said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
Again, what facts? Let's review...
- Is it up to developers to make a game the best it can be on each platform ? Yes - and they did that with Shadow of Mordor. Guess what? The games still looked the same. So, your "fact" is moot, because the end result was parity.
- Did Ubisoft say "We are going to make both versions identical". Yes. Why? Because there isn't much a discernible difference between a 900p game and a 1080p game on a console. So, they figure, why give dumb fanboys ammunition. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror.
- Parity =/= equal. Things can be on par with each other and not be equal. A car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is on par with a car that does the same 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds, yet 3.4 =/= 3.5.
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
There ya have it. #4 is swell, I guess. But 1 through 3 are kinda bs.
Again with the crying comments. Exactly why would I be crying when I am having so much fun? Tears of laughter, maybe...
omfg you talking out of your butt again !! Here i go again then ... Facts spam coming.
PS4 more powerful = fact
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = fact
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = fact
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = fact
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = fact
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.
Its really simple to say a YES or NO to each and everyone of my claimings . But nooo , youll call DF and ridiculous examples to win an argument like cars and miles ... avoiding the obvious. Facts in your face bro ! Try deny them if you can so..
Yes or No !! Can you answer them with a single word ? No you cant crybaby , because you cant deny facts thats why you cant. Keep crying , i got all day. Im waiting your response. Ill keep fighting your ego , fanboyism and ridiculous argues with facts. Bring it
@tormentos: 1920x1080 at 60 fps is not
@tormentos said:
And the math equation you did was a joke no 1080p TV can handle 154million pixels per second,where ever the game runs at 15 frames or 100 the pixel density remains the same 2,073,600 for 1080p.
You pretend else where that you know about this sucker..lol
I think you actually may be retarded. My 1440p Asus monitor is 2560x1440 at up to 144hz...that's about 3.7 million pixels. There are a lot more resolutions and monitors out there besides your 16:9 60hz console peasant TV.
Frames per second and pixels rendered per second has nothing to do with your density. If a game is running 1920x1080 at 30 fps, it is pushing out (1920x1080) x 30 pixels per second. Furthermore, your magic upscaling math doesn't suddenly create higher resolution assets, it's just your TV guessing at what should be there in between lines of resolution.
You should just go back to creating nonsense topics where everyone makes fun of you for being the worst topic creator on System Wars. God, you are bad at this.
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
The
@AzatiS said:
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@Krelian-co said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
Again, what facts? Let's review...
- Is it up to developers to make a game the best it can be on each platform ? Yes - and they did that with Shadow of Mordor. Guess what? The games still looked the same. So, your "fact" is moot, because the end result was parity.
- Did Ubisoft say "We are going to make both versions identical". Yes. Why? Because there isn't much a discernible difference between a 900p game and a 1080p game on a console. So, they figure, why give dumb fanboys ammunition. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror.
- Parity =/= equal. Things can be on par with each other and not be equal. A car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is on par with a car that does the same 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds, yet 3.4 =/= 3.5.
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
There ya have it. #4 is swell, I guess. But 1 through 3 are kinda bs.
Again with the crying comments. Exactly why would I be crying when I am having so much fun? Tears of laughter, maybe...
omfg you talking out of your butt again !! Here i go again then ... Facts spam coming.
PS4 more powerful = fact
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = fact
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = fact
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = fact
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = fact
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.
Its really simple to say a YES or NO to each and everyone of my claimings . But nooo , youll call DF and ridiculous examples to win an argument like cars and miles ... avoiding the obvious. Facts in your face bro ! Try deny them if you can so..
Yes or No !! Can you answer them with a single word ? No you cant crybaby , because you cant deny facts thats why you cant. Keep crying , i got all day. Im waiting your response. Ill keep fighting your ego , fanboyism and ridiculous argues with facts. Bring it
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
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@AzatiS said:
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@StormyJoe said:
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@Krelian-co said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
Again, what facts? Let's review...
- Is it up to developers to make a game the best it can be on each platform ? Yes - and they did that with Shadow of Mordor. Guess what? The games still looked the same. So, your "fact" is moot, because the end result was parity.
- Did Ubisoft say "We are going to make both versions identical". Yes. Why? Because there isn't much a discernible difference between a 900p game and a 1080p game on a console. So, they figure, why give dumb fanboys ammunition. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror.
- Parity =/= equal. Things can be on par with each other and not be equal. A car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is on par with a car that does the same 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds, yet 3.4 =/= 3.5.
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
There ya have it. #4 is swell, I guess. But 1 through 3 are kinda bs.
Again with the crying comments. Exactly why would I be crying when I am having so much fun? Tears of laughter, maybe...
omfg you talking out of your butt again !! Here i go again then ... Facts spam coming.
PS4 more powerful = fact
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = fact
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = fact
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = fact
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = fact
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.
Its really simple to say a YES or NO to each and everyone of my claimings . But nooo , youll call DF and ridiculous examples to win an argument like cars and miles ... avoiding the obvious. Facts in your face bro ! Try deny them if you can so..
Yes or No !! Can you answer them with a single word ? No you cant crybaby , because you cant deny facts thats why you cant. Keep crying , i got all day. Im waiting your response. Ill keep fighting your ego , fanboyism and ridiculous argues with facts. Bring it
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
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@Krelian-co said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
- Well, lets see. I can believe you, some random forum poster, or Eurogamer's Digital Foundry. Hmm... tough call, but I think I'll go with DF.
- I am not saying 7770 = 7850. I am saying that if the games look the same, does it matter which GPU has better specs? Yeah, the answer is "no".
- You can't prove shit. Sorry, but I could retort your goofy points all day. I really don't give a crap about your monitor. Really, I don't. What I care about is debunking this grandiose visual superiority of PS4 multiplats that people like you are boasting.
You are the one boasting some significant PS4 advantage, not me. Prove it. Prove me and DF wrong.
1. Of course youll beleive whoever is more convinient to you to win an argument , typical fanboystic behavor. Bypass the hundreds of other comparisons around the net also. Thats the way to justify your purchase of X1. Im used to that , whatever.
2. If game looks the same , its developers choice. Some developers take into consideration the extra power and you see better results. You will pay 59.99 for the same title to play it at lower res or lower FPS or lower graphical settings or all 3 combined. Thats your choice , if you are fine with it why should i care. Its your money.
3. I can prove you wrong all day long , i just did with my very first post. So many facts you couldnt handle it. If you didnt give a crap about me you wouldnt respond to every single claim i made. You are the fanboy here bypassing every single fact out there to talk about DF !! Rofl big time gamer from 2001 !!! Rofl big time. If DF couldnt tell it i could ! You dont beleive me ? Dont give a crap , i still can though ... I wish i was living where you live to make you cry because im sure i would by finding 10/10 all 1080p vs 900p tests. Dont cry , its all good. You play the inferior versions ( 75% of the time ) and having the inferior console , you need to accept that
7770 << 7850 ! Thats all you have to know since you bypassing everything else. And Ubisoft statement. For now , thats all there is to it. If you want more just google. Everything is up there fanboy. Everything !
Dont cry , im just being honest!
stormy clown is one of the most hypocritical lems on this board, if ps4 could do 4k and xbone still ran at 720p he would come and say "bu bu muh eyes can't see a difference!"
Yeah i know , he jumps facts like are nothing.
Some examples
Is PS4 more powerful system than X1 overall ? ---> It is.
Is PS4s multis look or play or both better than X1 in most occasions ?--> Yes they are , res or fps or graphic fidelity or all 3 together 80% of the time.
Is up to developers if they want to take advantage of PS4s extra power ? --> Yes it is.
So where is true graphical parity ? --> In lems heads , nowhere else.
Why you say so ? --> Because a freaking 7770 can never transformed to an 7850 , period.
Is 30 fps to 60 fps noticeable side by side ? --> 3 to 5 seconds to tell the difference , depends the scene.
Is there any difference between 1080p and 900p resolution on a 1080p TV/monitor ? --> Turn on your damn PC , put a freaking good looking game on and change the resolutions. Now tell me you are not noticing anything ! Its that easy really , you can do it at home yourself with 2-3 clicks.
But DF said ... --> I dont give a damn !! My eyes >> DF
and last but not least
Did developers openly admitted they bring parity in purpose in order to avoid tears , lems tears that is ? --> They just did
But no , he wont admit anything. So , let him be.
FIrst off, if you are looking for an ally in Krelian-co, good luck. He is too stupid to even reply to (which I why I just ignore him).
Secondly, I want you to really read the following statement: Shadow of Mordor is 1080p on PS4 and 900p on XBox One. Yet, Digital Foundry -the "authority" in comparing gaming versions - had a tough time telling the difference. So, while there is one, it's a weak argument for PS4 "superiority".
And, that's the whole crux of the matter. You are sitting there expecting me, and everyone else (except Krelian-co, who is brain damaged), to accept your admittedly biased, opinion over the top rated comparison site. Excuse me while I laugh my ass off at your lunacy. Where are your "facts"? All you are repeatedly replying are your opinions. Opinions are not facts.
Show me some facts.
Lolololol !!
So many facts and you cant counter any of them , still talking irrelevant things like SoM and DF and whatever.. Facts are facts , talking about sidestepping to me when you are the one doing it over and over !! Laugh all you want , facts are there with Bold black letters, all for you to see all day long. Dont cry , facts are facts. Undeniably ones. If you want to keep going with me you have to come with facts or valid arguments otherwise i cant take seriously , sorry.
Now dont cry , im just being honest.
The only fact you mentioned that is a fact is that the PS4 has a better GPU, which I never denied. Everything else you said is an opinion. So, lets put your comments in the context you really presented them:
ATTENTION SYSTEM WARS! ATTENTION!!! FROM NOW ON, PLEASE DISREGARD ALL PS4/XBOX ONE COMPARISON ARTICLES YOU READ, INCLUDING BY DIGITAL FOUNDRY. ALL OF THEM ARE NOW IRRELEVANT, BECAUSE WE HAVE AZATIS, HIS AWESOME EYES, AND HIS AMAZING "MONITOR OF POWER". THAT IS ALL.
Oh really , after all those things i said , thats the only thing you understood ?Hahaha ... DF and DF ... you lack of arguments. Out of all the things i said this is all you have to say ? So pathetic... Really !
Facts , undeniably facts hurting you right ? Lack of arguments and logic of a fanboy ! Sorry bro , you cant win like this ... Sorry.
Dont cry , im just being honest.
Again, what facts? Let's review...
- Is it up to developers to make a game the best it can be on each platform ? Yes - and they did that with Shadow of Mordor. Guess what? The games still looked the same. So, your "fact" is moot, because the end result was parity.
- Did Ubisoft say "We are going to make both versions identical". Yes. Why? Because there isn't much a discernible difference between a 900p game and a 1080p game on a console. So, they figure, why give dumb fanboys ammunition. You want to blame someone? Look in the mirror.
- Parity =/= equal. Things can be on par with each other and not be equal. A car that goes 0-60 in 3.5 seconds is on par with a car that does the same 0-60 sprint in 3.4 seconds, yet 3.4 =/= 3.5.
- The PS4 has a more powerful GPU than XBox One.
There ya have it. #4 is swell, I guess. But 1 through 3 are kinda bs.
Again with the crying comments. Exactly why would I be crying when I am having so much fun? Tears of laughter, maybe...
omfg you talking out of your butt again !! Here i go again then ... Facts spam coming.
PS4 more powerful = fact
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = fact
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = fact
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = fact
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = fact
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.
Its really simple to say a YES or NO to each and everyone of my claimings . But nooo , youll call DF and ridiculous examples to win an argument like cars and miles ... avoiding the obvious. Facts in your face bro ! Try deny them if you can so..
Yes or No !! Can you answer them with a single word ? No you cant crybaby , because you cant deny facts thats why you cant. Keep crying , i got all day. Im waiting your response. Ill keep fighting your ego , fanboyism and ridiculous argues with facts. Bring it
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
Im stating facts and waiting for a yes or no ... Myself, cars , DF , miles per hour , fancy announces are irrelevant. A yes or no to what my points are since my very first post ( actually not mine , Ubisofts ). Thats all you cant do , you just cant do that.
When it comes to facts there is yes or no. Yes it is , not it is not. Theres no yes but no at the same time. Now do you care answer them or not , because i need to logout soon. Real life calling
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
Im stating facts and waiting for a yes or no ... Myself, cars , DF , miles per hour , fancy announces are irrelevant. A yes or no to what my points are since my very first post ( actually not mine , Ubisofts ). Thats all you cant do , you just cant do that.
When it comes to facts there is yes or no. Yes it is , not it is not. Theres no yes but no at the same time. Now do you care answer them or not , because i need to logout soon. Real life calling
I answered every single one two posts ago, they're even in the previous comments of this exact post... what are you talking about?
@StormyJoe: your beyond ignorant if you dont think there is a difference between playing at 900p and 1080p on a 50+ inch HDTV, which most people do, its not hugely perceptible, but it is still noticeable and 1080p is defitnetly nicer then 900p, not only that , the PS4 manages to run few multiplats at a better, more consistent FPS then the One and also higher resolution, steady FPS is everything...but "who cares nobody can tell" LOL,
How did Ryse win the Siggraph award again?
@xboxiphoneps3 said:
@StormyJoe: your beyond ignorant if you dont think there is a difference between playing at 900p and 1080p on a 50+ inch HDTV, which most people do, its not hugely perceptible, but it is still noticeable and 1080p is defitnetly nicer then 900p, not only that , the PS4 manages to run few multiplats at a better, more consistent FPS then the One and also higher resolution, steady FPS is everything...but "who cares nobody can tell" LOL,
I didn't say there wasn't a difference at all - I said the difference was minute and not really worth noting; certainly not something that should be the quintessential decision point between the PS4 and Xbox One. Guess what? DF said the difference was hardly noticeable, too.
You cows are really blowing the resolution out of proportion; and sorry, but I am going to call you out on it.
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
Im stating facts and waiting for a yes or no ... Myself, cars , DF , miles per hour , fancy announces are irrelevant. A yes or no to what my points are since my very first post ( actually not mine , Ubisofts ). Thats all you cant do , you just cant do that.
When it comes to facts there is yes or no. Yes it is , not it is not. Theres no yes but no at the same time. Now do you care answer them or not , because i need to logout soon. Real life calling
I answered every single one two posts ago, they're even in the previous comments of this exact post... what are you talking about?
Hahaha .... that ego. Have a nice day ...
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
Im stating facts and waiting for a yes or no ... Myself, cars , DF , miles per hour , fancy announces are irrelevant. A yes or no to what my points are since my very first post ( actually not mine , Ubisofts ). Thats all you cant do , you just cant do that.
When it comes to facts there is yes or no. Yes it is , not it is not. Theres no yes but no at the same time. Now do you care answer them or not , because i need to logout soon. Real life calling
I answered every single one two posts ago, they're even in the previous comments of this exact post... what are you talking about?
holy shit clowny, you filled my notifications with your crying, just accept you are full of bs and move on, we all know it by now.
@TigerSuperman said:
How did Ryse win the Siggraph award again?
Ryse would be 1080p 30FPS or more on PS4,just like low settings on PC look better the xbox one version,has more things and looks sharper even on low.
There is nothing the xbox one can run that the PS4 don't run it faster.
And Siggraph awards are not based on which is doing technically more or which has 1080p,is about graphics which Ryse deliver in a good way because it is enclosed game.
@mikhail said:
@tormentos: 1920x1080 at 60 fps is not
I think you actually may be retarded. My 1440p Asus monitor is 2560x1440 at up to 144hz...that's about 3.7 million pixels. There are a lot more resolutions and monitors out there besides your 16:9 60hz console peasant TV.
Frames per second and pixels rendered per second has nothing to do with your density. If a game is running 1920x1080 at 30 fps, it is pushing out (1920x1080) x 30 pixels per second. Furthermore, your magic upscaling math doesn't suddenly create higher resolution assets, it's just your TV guessing at what should be there in between lines of resolution.
You should just go back to creating nonsense topics where everyone makes fun of you for being the worst topic creator on System Wars. God, you are bad at this.
I never say there wasn't higher Pixel TV.
No dude your TV or monitor is what determine the pixel density,if you have a 720p TV no matter what you will never be able to display 1080p on it,even if you hardware those output it.
1080p has 2,073,600 pixels where ever the frames are 10 or 60 the pixel density is the same always,not 154 million pixels because you multiply it by 60.
You are a moron who doesn't know shit about what its talking...lol 154 million pixels..hahaha
@Krelian-co said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
@AzatiS said:
@StormyJoe said:
PS4 more powerful = fact Who cares if no one can tell the difference?
7770 is crap in front of 7850 = fact I never said they were equal. "Crap" is a bit inaccurate, though.
70/80% of multis are superior vs X1s with one way or another = factBy resolution, and even DF has a tough time with the difference when it's 1080 vs 900
SoM runs 1080p on PS4 and 900p on X1 = factAgain,I never said this wasn't true. (detecting a pattern, here...)
Means PS4 is more powerful in order to achieve that = fact Didn't you already say that? Twice?
I dont give a damn if you cant tell the difference in SoM . difference exist = factWell, a tenth of a second 0-60 time exists, but it doesn't mean a whole lot.
There are other multis which not only favor PS4 when it comes to resolution or Fps or both but graphical details and settings seems higher than X1s = factWho cares if no one can tell the difference.
Ubisoft admitted openly ( except if you are mentaly ill and cant you understand ) that brought parity in order to avoid conflicts ? Guess whose version would have been better if they wanted to = fact.Yes, because on a console, there really isn't a noticeable difference between 900p and 1080p. Which, as I have said multiple times before, is exactly what happened with SoM.
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Wow. You really want to beat that whole "PS4 is more powerful" point home - you regurgitated that point 4 times. Anyway - you can't find a single site that says a 900p XBox One game has any significant graphics degradation over a 1080p PS4 counterpart. You can't do it because no such source exits. All you are doing is saying "I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE! I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!I CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE!!!!" Well, that's just super awesome for you, but no one else - including the people who run sites that are dedicated to the very issue - can. I mean, why would I give a crap if you can see a difference, especially when industry experts flat out say that they have a difficult time doing so? Do you really think I should take your opinion over theirs?
So, sorry - but I am going to believe the experts over some super cow fanboy on a gaming site... with a magic monitor, no less.
Care to keep going, or are you ready to bow out?
Loool , denial again !! You cant tell the differences ... hahaha ! Butthurting denial !! Thats all you have there. Answer with a yes or no ! You cant , you just cant.. Keep blabla.. To much ego to say yes and to much fanboy to say no. Hahaha!! I have all day long for this. Its kinda amusing. So lets continue
1080p >> 900p
7770 << 7850
Out of 80% of multis more or less PS4 version >> X1
There are games with graphical settings way better on ... PS4 >> X1
GDDR5 >> DDR3
60 fps >> 30 fps
You cant tell the difference between 1080p and 900p on 1080p Monitor ? I can period
You cant tell the difference between 60 fps or 30 fps ? I can period
Keep denial coming , i got all day. For every crap you saying ill be coming with more facts . Bring the denial once more.
I think the denial maybe on your end. I agreed with Digital Foundry. Is DF in "butthurt denial" as well? How about all the other sites? Are they in denial?
Everyone is in denial except you? Is that what you want me to believe? Is this another magic monitor thing?
Im stating facts and waiting for a yes or no ... Myself, cars , DF , miles per hour , fancy announces are irrelevant. A yes or no to what my points are since my very first post ( actually not mine , Ubisofts ). Thats all you cant do , you just cant do that.
When it comes to facts there is yes or no. Yes it is , not it is not. Theres no yes but no at the same time. Now do you care answer them or not , because i need to logout soon. Real life calling
I answered every single one two posts ago, they're even in the previous comments of this exact post... what are you talking about?
holy shit clowny, you filled my notifications with your crying, just accept you are full of bs and move on, we all know it by now.
Wow. What a great post! I am so thinking of reevaluating my "Just ignore the stupid, like Krelian-co" stance. But then, I see this exceptional post and I wonder if I have misjudged you... (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm)
"Stormy Clown" reference. Shocker. It's as if you think that I take offense at your juvenile name calling. You are right, I am so incredibly hurt. (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm too)
"Crying". Just because I debate a topic, it does not mean I am "crying" or "butthurt", or whatever stupid catchphrase you use. There are a lot of people who do a lot of replying, like @tormentos . And while I rarely agree with him (it has happened), I don't think I have ever said he is "crying". I guess that's a big difference between you and I, Krelian-co - when I respond to a post, I generally have something to say, not just catchphrases .
I guess you can't help it, it's about all your melon can muster.
You know what is really funny. with all the cows crying about the Xbox holding back the PS4, why don't you see lemmings make a thread every time a MP is P2P complaining that Sony's lack of servers are holding back the xbox version? Every Xbox exclusive has dedicated servers, MS has a ton of them available. So why should lemmings have to "settle" for P2P (which in my opinion is much less playable compared to servers, then any resolution difference) because sony's online is lacking
@StormyJoe said:
Wow. What a great post! I am so thinking of reevaluating my "Just ignore the stupid, like Krelian-co" stance. But then, I see this exceptional post and I wonder if I have misjudged you... (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm)
"Stormy Clown" reference. Shocker. It's as if you think that I take offense at your juvenile name calling. You are right, I am so incredibly hurt. (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm too)
"Crying". Just because I debate a topic, it does not mean I am "crying" or "butthurt", or whatever stupid catchphrase you use. There are a lot of people who do a lot of replying, like @tormentos . And while I rarely agree with him (it has happened), I don't think I have ever said he is "crying". I guess that's a big difference between you and I, Krelian-co - when I respond to a post, I generally have something to say, not just catchphrases .
I guess you can't help it, it's about all your melon can muster.
Man can you and the other dude trim your replies.? I think is was stated that people should not do quotes like that.
@tormentos said:
@StormyJoe said:
Wow. What a great post! I am so thinking of reevaluating my "Just ignore the stupid, like Krelian-co" stance. But then, I see this exceptional post and I wonder if I have misjudged you... (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm)
"Stormy Clown" reference. Shocker. It's as if you think that I take offense at your juvenile name calling. You are right, I am so incredibly hurt. (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm too)
"Crying". Just because I debate a topic, it does not mean I am "crying" or "butthurt", or whatever stupid catchphrase you use. There are a lot of people who do a lot of replying, like @tormentos . And while I rarely agree with him (it has happened), I don't think I have ever said he is "crying". I guess that's a big difference between you and I, Krelian-co - when I respond to a post, I generally have something to say, not just catchphrases .
I guess you can't help it, it's about all your melon can muster.
Man can you and the other dude trim your replies.? I think is was stated that people should not do quotes like that.
Trim replies? What does that mean?
@StormyJoe said:
Wow. What a great post! I am so thinking of reevaluating my "Just ignore the stupid, like Krelian-co" stance. But then, I see this exceptional post and I wonder if I have misjudged you... (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm)
"Stormy Clown" reference. Shocker. It's as if you think that I take offense at your juvenile name calling. You are right, I am so incredibly hurt. (in case you missed it, that's sarcasm too)
"Crying". Just because I debate a topic, it does not mean I am "crying" or "butthurt", or whatever stupid catchphrase you use. There are a lot of people who do a lot of replying, like @tormentos . And while I rarely agree with him (it has happened), I don't think I have ever said he is "crying". I guess that's a big difference between you and I, Krelian-co - when I respond to a post, I generally have something to say, not just catchphrases .
I guess you can't help it, it's about all your melon can muster.
oh by all means don't reevaluate anything, i am so eager to be on your good side, you certainly show you don't care what i say acting butthurt in every thread, i mean, it is a normal way of acting after i made you look like a fool and hypocrite in so many threads.
Stormy clown is a great name for you, more fitting. Also keep using "muh eyes can't see" to every single fact shown that ps4 is better than xbone.
@darkangel115 said:
You know what is really funny. with all the cows crying about the Xbox holding back the PS4, why don't you see lemmings make a thread every time a MP is P2P complaining that Sony's lack of servers are holding back the xbox version? Every Xbox exclusive has dedicated servers, MS has a ton of them available. So why should lemmings have to "settle" for P2P (which in my opinion is much less playable compared to servers, then any resolution difference) because sony's online is lacking
Because that would be totally hypocrite argument.
First because they payed for 11 years for P2P while sony deliver more games on dedicated severs actually free since 2002.
And 2 because sony online structure in nothing hold back online games on xbox 360,all gen long the xbox 360 had party chat,automatic sync for achievements while the PS3 lack it,and all games with online modes support party chat on 360,so no there was no holding back.
All the contrary it was MS strict policies what held gaming back,on PS3 there was a game that had co-op with PC,on PS3 games like Unreal Tournament supported mods done on PC,on PS3 you could share your PSN bough games with up to 5 friends..Non of those things were on xbox live.
You know how Sunset Over drive will support 8 players co-op.? Yeah the PS3 did that since 2008 no 360 game ever did.
Hey what game on 360 had 60 players at once.? Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa non...
Yeah that is the beauty of dedicated servers which sony support since Socom 1 on 2002,while live was P2P.
So yeah servers are the best way to go,but since you all didn't care about those last gen it would be mighty hypocrite to pretend they are now lemming..
By the way nice damage control don't bring a knife into a gun fight..lol...
@StormyJoe said:
Trim replies? What does that mean?
You and him keep quoting your whole conversation which include multiple quotes,juts move the mouse over the post you are quoting and when the option pops out hit delete on the second post on your quote it will eliminate all the pyramid of quotes.
Yeah @tormentos is right. Theses quote chains are out of hand.
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