Beyond3D: Metal Gear Sold 4 runs at 576p.

HURAAAH FUR AEICH DEEE GAMIMING

(though yea what the cows are saying, lets wait until the game comes out)

Um... unconfirmed!!! The guy specifically said he'll wait till the final version comes out to make suremunu9

Lemmings Pressed the *PANIC BUTTON*, they are on full attack mode because MGS4 is just around the corner and the 360 has nothing to counter it, while the Ps3 has enough to counter every last upcoming xbox title.

where did you guys get this info from..?

the game runs at 720p at 60fps..

www.gamecollision.com/news/metal-gear-solid-4-qa-runs-60fps-720p-possible-1080p-more

SHuN_G0Ku

Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution....

This is really not credible.

Seriously, people.

I'm sorry about the all caps, but...

THIS IS ALL SPECULATION FROM A SCREENSHOT OFF OF IGN. THIS IS NOT OFFICIAL NEWS, RIGHT NOW I HAVE TRAILERS OF THE GAME THAT RUN IN 720P. THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

Um... unconfirmed!!! The guy specifically said he'll wait till the final version comes out to make suremunu9

THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

NAPK1NS

"Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution...."

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

Ilikemyname420

"Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution...."

What in god's name are you talking about? I'm saying that the menus for MGO are displayed in 720p. The game is not being rendered at some absurd resolution like 576p.

[QUOTE="caligamer"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

[QUOTE="Nolan16"]the MGS4 Beta Is running at 1080p so im guessing its atleast 720.TekkenMaster606

Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 will still say they're running at 720p but that's not completely accurate when it comes to the real pixel count.

you can sit there and count the pixels while we play the game:lol:

Enjoy your 576p. :lol:

I could care less about the whole 576p,I love MGS and have been waiting for this one since it got announced.A stupid resolution 'issue' isn't gonna stop me from buying it.Lto_thaG

I second that. HD isn't everything. Progressive Scan is already a major improvement over the last interlaced format. I'd take MGS's story, gameplay, cinematic production values over HD graphics if it means making the game that much closer to perfection at the expense of graphics.

Besides, most people can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p unless your TV set is over 40" (I have a 1080p 40" Bravia screen, and even then I couldn't care less about fullHD in gaming if it means halving the framerate and killing the tiny details that make the game look great, like particle effects and subtle motion blurs).

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

NAPK1NS

"Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution...."

What in god's name are you talking about? I'm saying that the menus for MGO are displayed in 720p. The game is not being rendered at some absurd resolution like 576p.

It wouldn't even show on your TV unless it is output at 720p, and it would be stupid to make menus that are smaller than the screensize. Even the 720p screenshot is just a blown up 576, IT IS rendered at 576 and upscaled to 720 and 1080.

So again because a game is said to run or support a resolution doesn't mean it renders at that resolution....for example I could take my N64 blow the picture up to 1080 and say I'm running it in HD.....doesn't mean much then does it?

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

Ilikemyname420

"Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution...."

What in god's name are you talking about? I'm saying that the menus for MGO are displayed in 720p. The game is not being rendered at some absurd resolution like 576p.

It wouldn't even show on your TV unless it is output at 720p, and it would be stupid to make menus that are smaller than the screensize. Even the 720p screenshot is just a blown up 576, IT IS rendered at 576 and upscaled to 720 and 1080.

So again because a game is said to run or support a resolution doesn't mean it renders at that resolution....for example I could take my N64 blow the picture up to 1080 and say I'm running it in HD.....doesn't mean much then does it?

The PS3 doesn't have a blu ray upscaler. :|

The PS3 doesn't have a blu ray upscaler. :|

NAPK1NS

What does that have to do with anything?

wow... cows will be all crapped over for this just like they crapped over Halo 3 for being 600p.club-sandwich

yeah but halo has worse jaggies then a wii game.

The PS3 doesn't have a blu ray upscaler. :|

NAPK1NS

and regardless PS3 put an upscaler in the 1.80 firmware update....Ilikemyname420

[QUOTE="Ilikemyname420"][QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

THE FREAKING MAIN MENU OF MGO RUNS IN 720P. FROM WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM OFFICIAL SOURCES THE GAME RUNS IN 1080P.

No more of this guys. This topic needs to be locked, the lies need to end.

NAPK1NS

"Because something "runs" or "supports" a resolution, doesn't mean that it is rendered at that resolution...."

What in god's name are you talking about? I'm saying that the menus for MGO are displayed in 720p. The game is not being rendered at some absurd resolution like 576p.

You don't understand how it works do you, Halo 3 runs in 720P also but it is upscalled to that res as are a few sneaky games this generation. This really doesn't suprise me, MGS 4 does not look that spectacular to be honest, it certainly is not as impressive as MGS2 was back when that was bein hyped. Still unless you are a complete graphics whore who cares?

How have they come up with this?

As far as I know they haven't played it. Doing it from photos isn't the same...

Wait and see : )

Im pretty sure the MGO beta (menu atleast) is 1080p. My tv only lets me use Exact scan if they are. All other games who claim 1080 can only be used in wide etc. Lair and GT5P are two other games that let me use exact scan.

How have they come up with this?

As far as I know they haven't played it. Doing it from photos isn't the same...

Wait and see : )

TheForgotten0ne

well based on people who have actually played the game (IGN) it's 720p @ 60fps..

but we'll soon find out when it's released

let's see whether or not it'll have bigger enviorment, more on screen, etc.. than Halo3 then we'll judge.

but to be fair, Halo 3 did push big enviorments & loads of things on screen, while saving a film script on the background, all at once (even split screen) with 600p (which is even better than 576p).

Im pretty sure the MGO beta (menu atleast) is 1080p. My tv only lets me use Exact scan if they are. All other games who claim 1080 can only be used in wide etc. Lair and GT5P are two other games that let me use exact scan.

CossackNoodle

that is fair enough then If what you say is true

edit:looking around GT5P is still 1080p just not 1920x1080. which may explain why other games known to be upscaled do not let me exact scan them

Im pretty sure the MGO beta (menu atleast) is 1080p. My tv only lets me use Exact scan if they are. All other games who claim 1080 can only be used in wide etc. Lair and GT5P are two other games that let me use exact scan.

CossackNoodle

.... Menus are redone for every res that is displayed for so is never a indication of what a game's native resolution is. and for those games it's called upscaling, it is only DISPLAYING it at 1080, it is taking it from a lower resolution...of course the output to your TV will be at that resolution.....Did you really think this would mean you were going to be watching a 20 inch box within your 40inch TV or something?

theres only one game thats rendered in 1080p at this time, and its on PSN (its something like rez or one of those type of games)

everything else on the market is upscaled.

i doubt we will see developers make major games in 1080p until next generation or maybe even generation after that. too much time in doing the code and too costly.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1150046

They were right about Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4.

TekkenMaster606

Wait, wait wait...... Let me get this straight

1) You are taking information as factual from a foum? I don't care how many times they're been right, at the end of the day, if they were that good, it would be a gaming site, not a forum.

2) You are judging whether a game will fail based on it being a certain resolution? Hate to say it, but halo wasn't that great looking and that's a pretty fun game. WoW didn't look that graphically good and it's probably the most played game on the planet.

Call me crazy, but trying to judge whether a game will be good, based on a still shot, seems a bit over the top.

is a drop in resolution is due to lack of space on the disc?

this is a big disspointment...but it'll probably still look great (Im not a PS3 fanboy)

My opinion: MGS4 looks great, but it would have looked so much nicer if it was on the 360 or PC.EmilioDigsIt

PC, sure. 360 why?

The argument ''PCs can't do HD'' is changing to ''Consoles can't do HD''.RK-Mara

Except..my Edge magazine says it runs at 1080P, and they played the game with Kojima? :|thrones

Output resolution =/= Actual resolution. :|

[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]My opinion: MGS4 looks great, but it would have looked so much nicer if it was on the 360 or PC.the_one34

PC, sure. 360 why?

Because of the epix powah of the 360.

They're both the same, live with it.

MGS4 graphics looks disappointing. Every thing but the snake model could use an upgrade.

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

Atleast Halo 3 was closer to high def then low def..

576p is actually closer to 480p then 720p.

That said.. I don't really care, at all. Cause I have a SD TV. Atleast the Wii doesn't lie about resolution.. they really are low.

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

Hexagon_777

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

TekkenMaster606

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

thrones

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Beyond3D has yet to be wrong. You were saying what plebeian?

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

thrones

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Haven't they been right all this time? Why should they be wrong with MGS4?

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

thrones

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

If they are as good as you claim, they would have a game website not a damn forum!?