Beyond3D: Metal Gear Sold 4 runs at 576p.

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#301 Cyber-
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Can we get a reputable source to confirm that it does run in this resolution.
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#302 Syn_Valence
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Yea ok this is stupid, the game isnt even out yet.......i want Beyond3D crystal's ball......and the guy even said he was guessing, which means he could be wrong........which means you should have waited till you had actually proof, FAIL

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#303 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

TekkenMaster606

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Beyond3D has yet to be wrong. You were saying what plebeian?

I'm saying that I'd rather trust a gaming magazine who have been with Kojima and has played the game over a random forum.

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#304 donwoogie
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Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. TekkenMaster606

They might have been right here and there but there is not count for how many times they could ahve been wrong. Forums are not credible sources, end of story. If they were, every yahoo from here to the north pole would start listing fanboy sites claiming they are "credible sources". I Kotaku or some other credible article site picks up on thisthen you can give a shot at claiming credibility.

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#305 TekkenMaster606
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Funny how all the PS3 gamers are suddenly using the arguments that Wii gamers use when defending their games, depicting that graphics are not the ultimate factor when it comes to videogames, despite having made fun of Wii gamers all this time...PS3 gamers once again prove that they are the hypocrites of System Wars.

thrones

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Beyond3D has yet to be wrong. You were saying what plebeian?

I'm saying that I'd rather trust a gaming magazine who have been with Kojima and has played the game over a random forum.

You mean one of the definitive 3D websites on the internet.

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#306 EuroMafia
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lmao. Seriously.
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#307 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

TekkenMaster606

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Beyond3D has yet to be wrong. You were saying what plebeian?

I'm saying that I'd rather trust a gaming magazine who have been with Kojima and has played the game over a random forum.

You mean one of the definitive 3D websites on the internet.

..... FORUM

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#308 ejstrup
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Now let's watch the cows go "bu bu but as long as it looks great!"

Pathetic. The PS3, along with the Cell and the RSX are complete failures. I have not seen a more crappy console in my life.

Kojima was right. The PS3 and MGS 4 are both disappointments.

KittyKatB

Let's wait till the game is out, fanboy..

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#309 EmilioDigsIt
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[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]My opinion: MGS4 looks great, but it would have looked so much nicer if it was on the 360 or PC.the_one34

PC, sure. 360 why?


In ways of detail. I don't know, I just can't be impressed by the game and feel like it could have looked better on the 360.
It looks great, but it doesn't look "WOW!" great.

Maybe Kojima should have added less uncompressed audio and more detailed textures.

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#310 ReverseCycology
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Just take away the uncompress audio and MGS4 can definitely be on the 360 without a doubt.

The bad news and embarassment just never stop for the PS3 and it's games.

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#311 thrones
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[QUOTE="the_one34"]

[QUOTE="EmilioDigsIt"]My opinion: MGS4 looks great, but it would have looked so much nicer if it was on the 360 or PC.EmilioDigsIt

PC, sure. 360 why?


In ways of detail. I don't know, I just can't be impressed by the game and feel like it could have looked better on the 360.
It looks great, but it doesn't look "WOW!" great.

Maybe Kojima should have added less uncompressed audio and more detailed textures.

Well, all of the journalists seem impressed with it :|

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#312 Cali3350
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The method the guy uses is accurate. He takes a screengrab straight from the buffer and does a pixel comparison. There is no lying or misinformation involved here. This is the same guy that found Halo 3 / COD4 / DMC4 / Ninja Gaiden Sigma / Skate etc all 'lying' about there resolutions. Hes not a fanboy, and hes not a proff. Hes just a guy that understands computer architecture and enjoys screengrabbing games.

NOW, hes doing all of this for MGS4 based on a third party screengrab. Asd he himself says, he isnt sure, as he doesnt have the game. You can be sure when he does get the game he'll report it.

Cows should probably be prepared for the worst though. The screenshot may have been third party, but the technique should still be accurate.

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#313 angelkimne
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As long as it looks as good as halo 3 did at 670p or whatever then i dont mind.
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#314 Hexagon_777
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Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. TekkenMaster606

That is the way of the cow.

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#315 hip-hop-cola2
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The method the guy uses is accurate. He takes a screengrab straight from the buffer and does a pixel comparison. There is no lying or misinformation involved here. This is the same guy that found Halo 3 / COD4 / DMC4 / Ninja Gaiden Sigma / Skate etc all 'lying' about there resolutions. Hes not a fanboy, and hes not a proff. Hes just a guy that understands computer architecture and enjoys screengrabbing games.

NOW, hes doing all of this for MGS4 based on a third party screengrab. Asd he himself says, he isnt sure, as he doesnt have the game. You can be sure when he does get the game he'll report it.

Cows should probably be prepared for the worst though. The screenshot may have been third party, but the technique should still be accurate.

Cali3350

if he didnt prove the other games till they were released then he hasnt proved this.... end off, this thread shouldn't be so many pages long, there needed to be more "/threads" lol

but i agree its not nice to hear, but i really dont see an mgs game being unimpressive on the graphics side, technically i dont care, pixels dont make a beautiful game

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#316 hip-hop-cola2
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Just take away the uncompress audio and MGS4 can definitely be on the 360 without a doubt.

The bad news and embarassment just never stop for the PS3 and it's games.

ReverseCycology

and 360 has had no embarrassments... srsly, do you think before you post!

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#317 thrones
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. Hexagon_777

That is the way of the cow.

I never called them credible when talking about Halo 3, I love Halo 3!

I'd never trust internet forums frankly :|

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#318 Arjdagr8
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The method the guy uses is accurate. He takes a screengrab straight from the buffer and does a pixel comparison. There is no lying or misinformation involved here. This is the same guy that found Halo 3 / COD4 / DMC4 / Ninja Gaiden Sigma / Skate etc all 'lying' about there resolutions. Hes not a fanboy, and hes not a proff. Hes just a guy that understands computer architecture and enjoys screengrabbing games.

NOW, hes doing all of this for MGS4 based on a third party screengrab. Asd he himself says, he isnt sure, as he doesnt have the game. You can be sure when he does get the game he'll report it.

Cows should probably be prepared for the worst though. The screenshot may have been third party, but the technique should still be accurate.

Cali3350

what was ngs and skate? because those games look extremely sharp on my tv?

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#319 KhanhAgE
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Lemmings are gonna have to /wrists if this rumor is proved wrong.
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#320 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. Hexagon_777

That is the way of the cow.

If the way of the Lemm is to trust forums, then please, strap some wool on me and send me to Wales!

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#321 thrones
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. donwoogie

That is the way of the cow.

If the way of the Lemm is to trust forums, then please, strap some wool on me and send me to Wales!

... you want to be molested? :|

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#322 donwoogie
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[QUOTE="donwoogie"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. thrones

That is the way of the cow.

If the way of the Lemm is to trust forums, then please, strap some wool on me and send me to Wales!

... you want to be molested? :|

Easy tiger. Put the condom on first ;)

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#323 hashyboy
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this thread is stupid, play the game and dont count pixels

you can have the true metal gear eperience in any res over 500, and it supposed to be upscaled

theres always people trolling about lower pixels when most of us notice no difference

cod and halo look fine the way they are.
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#324 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. donwoogie

That is the way of the cow.

If the way of the Lemm is to trust forums, then please, strap some wool on me and send me to Wales!

Good thing I am not a lemming then. :)

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#325 Decko5
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lol at the ps3

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#326 skrat_01
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Beyond3D was credible when talking about Halo 3 but now cows are in a damage control frenzy looking for technicalities and other minuscule reasons to discredit them. TekkenMaster606
The game hasent been released yet and the B3D 'test' has been done with screenshots, and has only been circulating on the forums, not cerdible gaming webistes.

Perhaps the cows are correct about waiting for the game to be released - like with Halo 3.

then you can see the damage control if it is true

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#327 kingfire11
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ROFL!! HAHAHAHAHA

and cows say he's worng?! this guy is a GOD, he did this lots of times on lots of games, he's simply not a credible source, HE IS THE SOURCE!!

576P?! :D :D that's almost SD!.

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#328 Mandingo101
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well, tc is taking a big chance here, he/she/it is risking he/she/it('s) internet life(probably the only life this person has left, cus in all likelyhood this person doesnt have a real one) on some third party grabs that even quaz states may not be the actual product. his method is sound indeed, but it is not absolute at this point, those resolutions were not confirmed for other games until release. it took him a while to figure out that bioware was adding AA for mass effect screens, there are other examples as well.

if true, this is a dent into kojima and his team's technical prowess, not his overall game developing capability cus we all know he provides some of the best innovations in gaming(an actual, good story, coupled with good gameplay and high values).

its not a dent into the ps3's hardware prowess either, because it has the most games running above 720p resolution, whether it be 1080p non proper like in GT5 (16 cars, best lighting/car models around, 60fps, damage confirmed in update) or NGS or whatever.and games like killzone 2(which is 720p, 2xfsaa iirc) which is only matched in technical prowess by crysis.

sure there were lower resolution games like darkness on ps3 and others, but those can be easily attributed to lack of hardware knowlege and proper dev tools(first dev kits were a joke and still were until the last year or so)especially considering the games i listed and others like uncharted(720p 2xmsaa, argually best looking console game to date) and ratchet(above 700p, 60fps, 2xmsaa). while devs like bungie - who were provided with what can be called the best dev tools for a console to date from MS, and pretty straight forward hardware, first party backing, ample time, ample funds - were not able to reach 700p, and doesnt even use AA(wasnt the 10mb on die vram suppose to give free AA lol?) nor does it run at 60fps

either way if true, either kojima's technical stock goes down a bit, or if false... this thread is locked into sigs for all eternity around the world because TC provided a link, passed it off as fact(even when the author said it is not set in stone) and made it worse by trolling on the information, thus making you just as depressed in your second life as you are in your real life.

we shall see soon enough.


i have to say tho, i havent been around these forums a lot lately, and its quite weird to be honest. its almost like the lemmings have went mad even worse than before. i mean yes 360 got outsold in 07 despite having it's biggest juggernaut ever(halo 3), having a cheaper price, wider selection, installed base, bigger advertising, bigger games, etc, etc. and yes it is still getting outsold now despite more pricecuts in other regions around the world, but there is no reason to go mad. MS will never win a console generation as long as sony and nintendo are in the game, or as long as MS has competition. 360 may be the next dreamcast, yes hd dvd died, sony's blu ray won, blah blah. but theres really no reason to go mad.
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#329 Cali3350
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[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

The method the guy uses is accurate. He takes a screengrab straight from the buffer and does a pixel comparison. There is no lying or misinformation involved here. This is the same guy that found Halo 3 / COD4 / DMC4 / Ninja Gaiden Sigma / Skate etc all 'lying' about there resolutions. Hes not a fanboy, and hes not a proff. Hes just a guy that understands computer architecture and enjoys screengrabbing games.

NOW, hes doing all of this for MGS4 based on a third party screengrab. Asd he himself says, he isnt sure, as he doesnt have the game. You can be sure when he does get the game he'll report it.

Cows should probably be prepared for the worst though. The screenshot may have been third party, but the technique should still be accurate.

Arjdagr8

what was ngs and skate? because those games look extremely sharp on my tv?

Here is a chart showing some games

Sigma was said to be true 1080p, its 720p. Skate on the 360 is 720p with AA, while on the PS3 its a ofres of 1536x864 with no AA.

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#330 Lab392
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ROFL!! HAHAHAHAHA

and cows say he's worng?! this guy is a GOD, he did this lots of times on lots of games, he's simply not a credible source, HE IS THE SOURCE!!

576P?! :D :D that's almost SD!.

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He's "the Source" that's using a third-party screenshot from the game. Heck, TC already showed a screenshot that was 576p on some sites and 720p on others. Secondly, there's still a chance that MGS4 will work at 576p, but a non-HD game doesn't signal the death of the PS3, it didn't signal the death of the 360. Use reasoning sometimes, I hear its helpful.

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#331 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"][QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

Lots of cow damage control in the thread. You can feel the desperation.

donwoogie

Except..you came to the thread with your 'proof' as reliable as a drunken Hobo telling you about games.

Beyond3D has yet to be wrong. You were saying what plebeian?

I'm saying that I'd rather trust a gaming magazine who have been with Kojima and has played the game over a random forum.

You mean one of the definitive 3D websites on the internet.

..... FORUM

Forum or website. The people who post them at their forum are staff members and obviously they won't start talking crap to lose credibility in their forums. The staff member didn't say that it runs at 576p but he judged from the Konami preview event and said it was obviously running at a lower rendering resolution than 720p.

I for one, think that MGS 4 will run at 720p on the final product because to be honest, the graphics aren't that great in this game so I have no reason to believe that it can't render at 720p.

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#332 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I won't believe it until the game is released. This is way to funny...
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#333 Hoobinator
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576p is actually PAL standard definition in progressive mode. It's essentially a last gen progressive resolution.
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#334 mingo123
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Now let's watch the cows go "bu bu but as long as it looks great!"

Pathetic. The PS3, along with the Cell and the RSX are complete failures. I have not seen a more crappy console in my life.

Kojima was right. The PS3 and MGS 4 are both disappointments.

KittyKatB

360...if you are talking about harwdare

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#335 sambalimbo
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[QUOTE="KittyKatB"]

Now let's watch the cows go "bu bu but as long as it looks great!"

Pathetic. The PS3, along with the Cell and the RSX are complete failures. I have not seen a more crappy console in my life.

Kojima was right. The PS3 and MGS 4 are both disappointments.

mingo123

360...if you are talking about harwdare

pwned

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#336 sambalimbo
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[QUOTE="KittyKatB"]

Now let's watch the cows go "bu bu but as long as it looks great!"

Pathetic. The PS3, along with the Cell and the RSX are complete failures. I have not seen a more crappy console in my life.

Kojima was right. The PS3 and MGS 4 are both disappointments.

mingo123

360...if you are talking about harwdare

pwned

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#337 caseypayne69
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if its 576p scaled to 720p oh well.

Did you lems know Gran Turismo 5 Pro was 1080p at 60 fps? How awesome is that? I love it.

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#338 kingfire11
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if its 576p scaled to 720p oh well.

Did you lems know Gran Turismo 5 Pro was 1080p at 60 fps? How awesome is that? I love it.

caseypayne69

GT5 isn't the most hyped and the second come of Jesus for the PS3.

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#339 leviathan91
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First Halo 3, then CoD4, and now possibly MGS4? :? What's up with this generation?
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#340 imprezawrx500
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if that is true consoles really aren't hd. lems and cows really can't bash crysis running bad when a 8800gt can max it out in 600p with 16x AA.

576p for ps3's biggest game of the year would be one hugh :lol:

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#341 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]

[QUOTE="Nolan16"]the MGS4 Beta Is running at 1080p so im guessing its atleast 720.caligamer

Halo 3 and Call of Duty 4 will still say they're running at 720p but that's not completely accurate when it comes to the real pixel count.

you can sit there and count the pixels while we play the game:lol:

the fact is anything below 720p looks horrible. resoultion is way more important than texture quality

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#342 imprezawrx500
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Keep grasping for straws lemmings while we play the best game of this generation.PS_Family

pc has had the best games this gen. crysis, stalker, coh, the witcher, wic etc etc