BioShock Infinite, after the storm..

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#101 musalala
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Definitely....played the game back to back in one sitting ....so worth it

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#102 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

You know I am right....lets see an angry black woman revolutionary and a cruel industrialist who murders and abuses his workers. Nevermind Fink's personality and views are basically the same as Reaver's. Not only are Daisy and Fink lackluster characters, they are Fable III ripoffs.Sagem28

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQgK32gAgk Reaver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKLnVoOjX0 Fink My point is made.
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#103 Sagem28
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQgK32gAgk Reaver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKLnVoOjX0 Fink My point is made.texasgoldrush

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#104 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQgK32gAgk Reaver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKLnVoOjX0 Fink My point is made.Sagem28

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So please tell me, how are they much different? Because your defense is weak, my point stands.

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#105 Sagem28
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So please tell me, how are they different? Because your defense is weak, my point stands.texasgoldrush

The ride never ends.

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#106 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

So please tell me, how are they different? Because your defense is weak, my point stands.Sagem28

The ride never ends.

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Too bad, that "amazing world" you speak of is borrowed from someone else...good day.
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#107 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

So please tell me, how are they different? Because your defense is weak, my point stands.texasgoldrush

The ride never ends.

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Too bad, that "amazing world" you speak of is borrowed from someone else...good day.

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#108 Sagem28
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Too bad, that "amazing world" you speak of is borrowed from someone else...good day.texasgoldrush

He's leaving the thread !

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#109 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Too bad, that "amazing world" you speak of is borrowed from someone else...good day.Sagem28

He's leaving the thread !

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inb4 he's back.

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#110 Sagem28
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inb4 he's back.

the_bi99man

Don't jinx it.

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#111 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Too bad, that "amazing world" you speak of is borrowed from someone else...good day.Sagem28

He's leaving the thread !

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No I am not....and you have proven to be an idiot time and time again. Poor Bioshock Infinite fans can't take criticism.
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#112 TommyBarban
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The American version of The Office, really?

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#113 Sagem28
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No I am not....and you have proven to be an idiot time and time again. Poor Bioshock Infinite fans can't take criticism.texasgoldrush

Newsflash numbskull

[spoiler] I don't like infinite [/spoiler]

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#114 Sagem28
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The American version of The Office, really?

TommyBarban

Belgian version is  better, I agree.

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#115 ChubbyGuy40
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Doesn't live up to the hype. Level design, enemy design, and gunplay are not up to par with previous entries.

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#116 TommyBarban
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

The American version of The Office, really?

Sagem28

Belgian version is better, I agree.

Belgian, what is that?

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#117 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

No I am not....and you have proven to be an idiot time and time again. Poor Bioshock Infinite fans can't take criticism.Sagem28

Newsflash numbskull

[spoiler] I don't like infinite [/spoiler]

Then why are you attacking me if you don't like it? You are in defense mode plain and simple. Get over it, I am right about Bioshock Infinite ripping from Fable III.
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#118 Sagem28
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Then why are you attacking me if you don't like it?texasgoldrush

Cause I don't like you

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#119 Sagem28
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Belgian, what is that?

TommyBarban

Derived from Belgium.

Land of Beer, chocolate and child molesters.

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#120 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Then why are you attacking me if you don't like it?Sagem28

Cause I don't like you

oh, did I strike a nerve? Did I speak truth you didn't like?
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#121 TommyBarban
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

Belgian, what is that?

Sagem28

Derived from Belgium.

Land of Beer, chocolate and child molesters.

You have done your homework sir!

The BBC version is superiour, can we agree on that?

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#122 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

Belgian, what is that?

TommyBarban

Derived from Belgium.

Land of Beer, chocolate and child molesters.

You have done your homework sir!

The BBC version is superiour, can we agree on that?

Damn, I never seen the BBC version.

I'll give it a look.

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#123 MoneySha
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To those that played it, worth the hype?

edit: the game is 50% off that's why I'm asking

TommyBarban
"Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!
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#124 TommyBarban
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

Derived from Belgium.

Land of Beer, chocolate and child molesters.

Sagem28

You have done your homework sir!

The BBC version is superiour, can we agree on that?

Damn, I never seen the BBC version.

I'll give it a look.

Nice, go for it!

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#125 dommeus
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To those that played it, worth the hype?

edit: the game is 50% off that's why I'm asking

TommyBarban
yes
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#126 musalala
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcQgK32gAgk Reaver http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdKLnVoOjX0 Fink My point is made.Sagem28

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Nice one Sagem28

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#127 cain006
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The American version of The Office, really?

TommyBarban

Ugh.

Anyways I'm disappointed that they never explained why Jeremiah Fink is such a cutie pie.

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#128 TommyBarban
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

The American version of The Office, really?

cain006

Ugh.

Anyways I'm disappointed that they never explained why Jeremiah Fink is such a cutie pie.

Is that an I agree Ugh?

Jeremiah Fink, cutie pie? On the physical or on the personal level?

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#129 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

To those that played it, worth the hype?

edit: the game is 50% off that's why I'm asking

MoneySha

"Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

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#130 KiZZo1
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Couldn't finish it :(

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#131 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="MoneySha"][QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

To those that played it, worth the hype?

edit: the game is 50% off that's why I'm asking

texasgoldrush

"Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

Here we go with the themes again. You know you have nothing when you're already falling back on that vapid shit.

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#132 Ricardomz
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Yes, totally worth it.

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#133 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="MoneySha"] "Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!Vaasman

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

Here we go with the themes again. You know you have nothing when you're already falling back on that vapid shit.

Themes are an essential part of storytelling, when you bungle them, like Bioshock Infinite does, the story sucks.

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#134 clyde46
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[QUOTE="MoneySha"][QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

To those that played it, worth the hype?

edit: the game is 50% off that's why I'm asking

texasgoldrush

"Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

You praised the ending to ME3, I can't take you seriously.
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#135 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="MoneySha"] "Meh"! That's all I could say... Don't get me wrong, I really do like the Bioshock games and thought the story in Infinite was awesome (not shocking, but, awesome). The problem with Irrational Games is that now, they're caught between, "Do I make a good game, or, Do I make a game that will shock people???" And all of that is fine, but, once the novelty of "shock" wears off and goes away, what you're left with is an OK game... I mean, you play Bioshock for the story obviously!clyde46

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

You praised the ending to ME3, I can't take you seriously.

And a lot of people do not have a problem with the ending, its the vocal minority. But it least the mE3 ending followed the themes of the game and the series, especially the extended cut.
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#136 uninspiredcup
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The opinion depends on the person. Most of this forum consists of console users who only started after the xbox. So from that point of view, the opinions are mostly invalid,

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#137 clyde46
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The opinion depends on the person. Most of this forum consists of console users who only started after the xbox. So from that point of view, the opinions are mostly invalid,

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If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you.
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#138 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

texasgoldrush

Here we go with the themes again. You know you have nothing when you're already falling back on that vapid shit.

Themes are an essential art o storytelling, when you bungle them, like Bioshock Infinite does, the story sucks.

You know what is actually essential to storytelling? Storytelling. And unlike your pathetic verbal diarrhea about themes, the strengths and weaknesses of which, by the way, are purely subjective, you can't talk about the actual story structure for two posts without revealing that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, to a degree that is frustrating, absurd, and laughable all at the same time. But of course, we've been down that road all to many a time by now. I think that much is clear to any regular poster. How you even have the gall to talk about it anymore is beyond me.

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#139 wiifan001
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great world , story and characters

 

mediocre gameplay with some really annoying fights

 

i'd get Bioshock 1 or even 2 first if you didn't play them 

TheGrudge13

Except this is how I felt about Bioshock 1 back in 2007.

I was flustered with the combat halfway in bioshock 1 and it only got worse and worse to the point where I forced myself to finish because I just hated the combat and how firing a full 30 rounds of gatling gun ammo take only half the life bar of an average enemy.

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#140 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Here we go with the themes again. You know you have nothing when you're already falling back on that vapid shit.

Vaasman

Themes are an essential art o storytelling, when you bungle them, like Bioshock Infinite does, the story sucks.

You know what is actually essential to storytelling? Storytelling. And unlike your pathetic verbal diarrhea about themes, the strengths and weaknesses of which, by the way, are purely subjective, you can't talk about the actual story structure for two posts without revealing that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, to a degree that is frustrating, absurd, and laughable all at the same time. But of course, we've been down that road all to many a time by now. I think that much is clear to any regular poster. How you even have the gall to talk about it anymore is beyond me.

Look at you.....you are the one that knows nothing. Any person with a brain knows that theme is key in storytelling and to bungle it, screws up the story. Theme gives stories meanings, the point. But I guess you are too dense to get it through your head.

But theme isn't the only thing Infinite does poorly, it was also its plot and characters.

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#141 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

The opinion depends on the person. Most of this forum consists of console users who only started after the xbox. So from that point of view, the opinions are mostly invalid,

clyde46
If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you.

Why are you responding to Jankarcop's alt? He isn't even funny.
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#142 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

The opinion depends on the person. Most of this forum consists of console users who only started after the xbox. So from that point of view, the opinions are mostly invalid,

PannicAtack
If I wanted your opinion, I'd give it to you.

Why are you responding to Jankarcop's alt? He isn't even funny.

So that makes three then, SNIPER, Jank and now this clown.
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#143 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Themes are an essential art o storytelling, when you bungle them, like Bioshock Infinite does, the story sucks.texasgoldrush

You know what is actually essential to storytelling? Storytelling. And unlike your pathetic verbal diarrhea about themes, the strengths and weaknesses of which, by the way, are purely subjective, you can't talk about the actual story structure for two posts without revealing that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, to a degree that is frustrating, absurd, and laughable all at the same time. But of course, we've been down that road all to many a time by now. I think that much is clear to any regular poster. How you even have the gall to talk about it anymore is beyond me.

Look at you.....you are the one that knows nothing. Any person with a brain knows that theme is key in storytelling and to bungle it, screws up the story. Theme gives stories meanings, the point. But I guess you are too dense to get it through your head.

But theme isn't the only thing Infinite does poorly, it was also its plot and characters.

DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT ELIZABETH, TEXAS DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT HER
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#144 EthicalBandit
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

Actually when the "shock" wears off, the story turns out to be a complete and utter mess.

Instead of writing a coherent story with deep characters, Levine tried to get as twisty as he can and loses the story and its themes.

 

An the ending makes the entire plot pointless and basically themeless.

texasgoldrush

You praised the ending to ME3, I can't take you seriously.

And a lot of people do not have a problem with the ending, its the vocal minority. But it least the mE3 ending followed the themes of the game and the series, especially the extended cut.

Though I disagree with you on the ME3 ending being bashed by the "vocal minority", I agree with how BI themes are a jumbled mess. Bringing themes such as racism, religious extremism , and nationalism and doing hardly anything noteworthy with them is just lazy. Also notice how the 3 key themes of the game have absolutely nothing to do with the ending.

Bioshock Infinite is a great game, there's no doubt about that. But it's not the best to offer in terms of story/gameplay, which drags it down in quality alot.

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#145 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]You know what is actually essential to storytelling? Storytelling. And unlike your pathetic verbal diarrhea about themes, the strengths and weaknesses of which, by the way, are purely subjective, you can't talk about the actual story structure for two posts without revealing that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, to a degree that is frustrating, absurd, and laughable all at the same time. But of course, we've been down that road all to many a time by now. I think that much is clear to any regular poster. How you even have the gall to talk about it anymore is beyond me.

freedomfreak

Look at you.....you are the one that knows nothing. Any person with a brain knows that theme is key in storytelling and to bungle it, screws up the story. Theme gives stories meanings, the point. But I guess you are too dense to get it through your head.

But theme isn't the only thing Infinite does poorly, it was also its plot and characters.

DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT ELIZABETH, TEXAS DON'T YOU TALK SHIT ABOUT HER

Elizabeth is the only good character, however, her development as a character was forced, and she finally goes off the rails in the end. Eleanor Lamb was the better Bioshock girl. But maybe Elizabeth will be a great character in the DLC.
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#146 freedomfreak
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Great waifu material. That's all you need.
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#147 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="clyde46"] You praised the ending to ME3, I can't take you seriously. EthicalBandit

And a lot of people do not have a problem with the ending, its the vocal minority. But it least the mE3 ending followed the themes of the game and the series, especially the extended cut.

Though I disagree with you on the ME3 ending being bashed by the "vocal minority", I agree with how BI themes are a jumbled mess. Bringing themes such as racism, religious extremism , and nationalism and doing hardly anything noteworthy with them is just lazy. Also notice how the 3 key themes of the game have absolutely nothing to do with the ending.

Bioshock Infinite is a great game, there's no doubt about that. But it's not the best to offer in terms of story/gameplay, which drags it down in quality alot.

Original or extended cut. I do believe a great deal if not a majority did not like the original ending, however the Extended Cut is a different story. Many people were satisfied with it. Actually while the three themes you mentioned were handled very poorly, the theme that really was done poorly was redemption, almost if not, a Broken Aesop. But I really don't think Bioshock Infinite knew what it really wants to be about, its an utter mess in the theme department.
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#148 NeonNinja
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Still my favorite game of 2013 and the best FPS I've played in maybe half a decade.  If we count third person shooters that timeframe drops significantly though.  Lot of cool stuff happening in the TPS space with Vanquish, Binary Domain and Spec Ops.

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#149 Litchie
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It was pretty fun, but I didn't think much more of it. I liked the first and second BioShock much more.
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#150 cain006
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[QUOTE="TommyBarban"]

The American version of The Office, really?

TommyBarban

Ugh.

Anyways I'm disappointed that they never explained why Jeremiah Fink is such a cutie pie.

Is that an I agree Ugh?

Jeremiah Fink, cutie pie? On the physical or on the personal level?

No, it's an "I really dislike douches like you" ugh.

And that was a bad joke.