BioShock Infinite, after the storm..

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Vaasman

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Opinion is not truth. You are the shitstain of humanity's underwear.

Vaasman

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

Elizabeth is such a self entitled egotistical bitch.I have no idea how anyone can like her.If I were booker I'd drown her dumbass. Alos she looks like a total asshole in the dlc trailer.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

the_bi99man

He's borderline delusional.
Just ignore him.

Elizabeth is such a self entitled egotistical bitch.I have no idea how anyone can like her.If I were booker I'd drown her dumbass. Alos she looks like a total asshole in the dlc trailer.

beganoo

And Rhianna Pratchett was actually on the Bioshock Infinite team, but why wasn't she allowed to write Elizabeth? She would have been a far better character if she was. But like the Minerva;s Den team, she was relegated to small roles. Levine absolutely wasted the talent in writing he had.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] So "constants" in the realm of infinite possibilities isn't illogical factually?texasgoldrush

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

Why do you even bother bro.Even if you make a good point the hardcore infinite fanboys that think "they get it" and think they are way smarter then they actaully are will call you an idiot and repeat the same old bullshit explanations that really don't make much sense in the context of what infinite multiverse is really supposed to be.

Its like making a serious WW2 game with rocket monkeys and not questioning it.

What im saying is the BI story would be fine if it wasn't taking itself so seriously and dramatically but as it is.... lol no.

The BI hype train did a bad trick to those weak of mind.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]The Schrödinger's Cat thought experiment dictates that, according to quantum mechanics, the cat is both alive and dead until it is revealed. It doesn't dictate that the cat might also have turned into a fish or blinked out of existence while in the box.

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

beganoo

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

Why do you even bother bro.Even if you make a good point the hardcore infinite fanboys that think "they get it" and think they are way smarter then they actaully are will call you an idiot and repeat the same old bullshit explanations that really don't make much sense in the context of what infinite multiverse is really supposed to be.

Its like making a serious WW2 game with rocket monkeys and not questioning it.

What im saying is the BI story would be fine if it wasn't taking itself so seriously and dramatically but as it is.... lol no.

The BI hype train did a bad trick to those weak of mind.

[spoiler]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] So "constants" in the realm of infinite possibilities isn't illogical factually?texasgoldrush

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

I absolutely love how I demonstrated the validity of constants in a multiverse, and you instantly had to move the goalposts and talk about largely irrelevant bullshit. You're far too much of a coward to ever admit you were wrong. It's lower than low.

And just for the record, by the time they're explaining the rules of their multiverse, you've only ever seen 3-4. To say that any of those things you listed were guaranteed constants, just because they existed in other relevant universes, is missing the point entirely. There's also the issue that any universe that doesn't involve Comstock is not relevant to Elizabeth or the story, and they don't need to show it. Unless, as is obvious, you're a complete slackjawed moron and need to be spoonfed every single detail of this game as it's own visual cutscene.

Sounds to me like you didn't get it. How sad. Use the term handwave again. Maybe that will save you. [/spoiler] I'm putting the rest of my posts in spoilers from this point on. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean you have to spoil it for a TC who clearly hasn't played. Douche.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]The Schrödinger's Cat thought experiment dictates that, according to quantum mechanics, the cat is both alive and dead until it is revealed. It doesn't dictate that the cat might also have turned into a fish or blinked out of existence while in the box.

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Vaasman

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

I absolutely love how I demonstrated the validity of constants in a multiverse, and you instantly had to move the goalposts and talk about largely irrelevant bullshit. You're far too much of a coward to ever admit you were wrong. It's lower than low.

And just for the record, by the time they're explaining the rules of their multiverse, you've only ever seen 3-4. To say that any of those things you listed were guaranteed constants, just because they existed in other relevant universes, is missing the point entirely. There's also the issue that any universe that doesn't involve Comstock is not relevant to Elizabeth or the story, and they don't need to show it. Unless, as is obvious, you're a complete slackjawed moron and need to be spoonfed every single detail of this game as it's own visual cutscene.

Sounds to me like you didn't get it. How sad. Use the term handwave again. Maybe that will save you. [/spoiler] I'm putting the rest of my posts in spoilers from this point on. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean you have to spoil it for someone who clearly hasn't played. Douche.

Why do you love this game so much anyway?Even if you find the story amazing the gameplay is pretty ass.Its a game after all.

I think you are obsessing over this waaay too much.Its not healthy bro.Going off on people like that shows how involved you are. You kind remind me of cartman and mel gibson only its you and ken livine.

Why do you love this game so much anyway?Even if you find the story amazing the gameplay is pretty ass.Its a game after all.

I think you are obsessing over this waaay too much.Its not healthy bro.Going off on people like that shows how involved you are. You kind remind me of cartman and mel gibson only its you and ken livine.

beganoo

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Why do you love this game so much anyway?Even if you find the story amazing the gameplay is pretty ass.Its a game after all.

I think you are obsessing over this waaay too much.Its not healthy bro.Going off on people like that shows how involved you are. You kind remind me of cartman and mel gibson only its you and ken livine.

Vaasman

Ah, see ,if you just said "What did that have to do with what I said" or "whats your problem?" it would have worked better.

How often does one start a post on gamespot with "who are you". Many posters on these boards.Do you ask everyone?

Nice try but not really.That salt.

Edit: Also I like how you added the "Ehhhm" with an edit. You are just so DAMN surprised. A whaaaaa... who that might be ? Love it.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Why do you love this game so much anyway?Even if you find the story amazing the gameplay is pretty ass.Its a game after all.

I think you are obsessing over this waaay too much.Its not healthy bro.Going off on people like that shows how involved you are. You kind remind me of cartman and mel gibson only its you and ken livine.

beganoo

Ah, see ,if you just said "What did that have to do with what I said" or "whats your problem?" it would have worked better.

How often does one start a post on gamespot with "who are you". Many posters on these boards.Do you ask everyone?

Nice try but not really.That salt.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Sorry who are you? What did that have to do with what I said?

Vaasman

Ah, see ,if you just said "What did that have to do with what I said" or "whats your problem?" it would have worked better.

How often does one start a post on gamespot with "who are you". Many posters on these boards.Do you ask everyone?

Nice try but not really.That salt.

This doesn't make any sense. To remind you ? You just failed at your littel thing there.

Anyway you absolutely did get me suspended! Totally worth it.That thread was hilarious and I enjoyed it a lot.No hard feelings, fair is fair and I deserved it.

Honestly tho, I'm a memebr for like over 4 years and I have about 1500 post.How much do you really think I'm bothered by not being able to post for few days ?

Can't help it, you are being such an asshole to people that don't like the game or/and the story.Thats the only reason I posted here.I had my fun a while ago, i'm done with it and this is not about that. Atleast I'm being playful but you say things with the goal to HURT people.

To quote you: "You are the shit of shit posters. The scum at the bottom of the sewer that not even the rats will touch."

Really ? Thats disgusting.For shame !

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Ah, see ,if you just said "What did that have to do with what I said" or "whats your problem?" it would have worked better.

How often does one start a post on gamespot with "who are you". Many posters on these boards.Do you ask everyone?

Nice try but not really.That salt.

beganoo

This doesn't make any sense. To remind you ? You just failed at your littel thing there.

Anyway you absolutely did get me suspended! Totally worth it.That thread was hilarious and I enjoyed it a lot.No hard feelings, fair is fair.

Honestly tho, I'm a memebr for like over 4 years and I have about 1500 post.How much do you really think I'm bothered by not being able to post for few days ?

Can't help it, you are being such an asshole to people that don't like the game or/and the story.Thats the only reason I posted here.I had my fun a while ago, i'm done with it and this is not about that. Atleast I'm being playful but you say things with the goal to HURT people.

"You are the shit of shit posters. The scum at the bottom of the sewer that not even the rats will touch."

Really ? Thats disgusting.For shame !

A. he wasn't an overbearing asshat.

B. he had made any effort to refute or take offense to what I said.

C. It wasn't a completely objective truth.

You can't call someone out as an asshole if they decide to insult a brick wall. Crazy perhaps? Yes, but I wouldn't deny that anyway.

Edit: I only just thought about this, but who the hell are these "people" you're referring to? I see plenty of people here who dislike the game, how many of them was I an asshole to exactly? Far as I can see it's a single poster, and he doesn't count as a person anyway.

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Actually I asked because I wanted you to remind me that I've already gotten you suspended for this conversation. You failed to amuse me.

Vaasman

This doesn't make any sense. To remind you ? You just failed at your littel thing there.

Anyway you absolutely did get me suspended! Totally worth it.That thread was hilarious and I enjoyed it a lot.No hard feelings, fair is fair.

Honestly tho, I'm a memebr for like over 4 years and I have about 1500 post.How much do you really think I'm bothered by not being able to post for few days ?

Can't help it, you are being such an asshole to people that don't like the game or/and the story.Thats the only reason I posted here.I had my fun a while ago, i'm done with it and this is not about that. Atleast I'm being playful but you say things with the goal to HURT people.

"You are the shit of shit posters. The scum at the bottom of the sewer that not even the rats will touch."

Really ? Thats disgusting.For shame !

A. he wasn't an overbearing asshat.

B. he had made any effort to refute or take offense to what I said.

C. It wasn't a completely objective truth.

You can't call someone out as an asshole if they decide to insult a brick wall. Crazy perhaps? Yes, but I wouldn't deny that anyway.

Edit: I only just thought about this, but who the hell are these "people" you're referring to? I see plenty of people here who dislike the game, how many of them was I an asshole to exactly? Far as I can see it's a single poster, and he doesn't count as a person anyway.

Oh please, you were totall dick to myself and others in the orginal BI threads but don't make the misstake that I'm on some kinda of vendetta towards you.Past is in the past.I just kinda dont like you and thats about it.

However your just being nasty now. "and he doesn't count as a person anyway" Come on bro. I might have the tendency to troll here and there but that was just hateful.

You are oozing self-entitlement.If someone sees things differently then  he "doesn't get it" or hes an idiot and not only that, you are being really f*cking nasty right now.

Oh well.Not really looking for conversation and if you want to be analyzed go to a f*cking therapist so yeah...

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

This doesn't make any sense. To remind you ? You just failed at your littel thing there.

Anyway you absolutely did get me suspended! Totally worth it.That thread was hilarious and I enjoyed it a lot.No hard feelings, fair is fair.

Honestly tho, I'm a memebr for like over 4 years and I have about 1500 post.How much do you really think I'm bothered by not being able to post for few days ?

Can't help it, you are being such an asshole to people that don't like the game or/and the story.Thats the only reason I posted here.I had my fun a while ago, i'm done with it and this is not about that. Atleast I'm being playful but you say things with the goal to HURT people.

"You are the shit of shit posters. The scum at the bottom of the sewer that not even the rats will touch."

Really ? Thats disgusting.For shame !

beganoo

A. he wasn't an overbearing asshat.

B. he had made any effort to refute or take offense to what I said.

C. It wasn't a completely objective truth.

You can't call someone out as an asshole if they decide to insult a brick wall. Crazy perhaps? Yes, but I wouldn't deny that anyway.

Edit: I only just thought about this, but who the hell are these "people" you're referring to? I see plenty of people here who dislike the game, how many of them was I an asshole to exactly? Far as I can see it's a single poster, and he doesn't count as a person anyway.

Oh please, you were totall dick to myself and others in the orginal BI threads but don't make the misstake that I'm on some kinda of vendetta towards you.Past is in the past.I just kinda dont like you and thats about it.

However your just being nasty now. "and he doesn't count as a person anyway" Come on bro. I might have the tendency to troll here and there but that was just hateful.

You are oozing self-entitlement.If someone sees things differently then he "doesn't get it" or hes an idiot and not only that, you are being really f*cking nasty right now.

Oh well.Not really looking for conversation and if you want to be analyzed go to a f*cking therapist so yeah...

Edit:

Also, you should know you're feebly attempting to defend someone who's entire schtick is insulting users. So in a way, the pot is calling the kettle black here. Except, not really, you're more like the oven mitt in this analogy.

Also, welcome to system wars.
Pansy

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]Well I might have felt worse about it if

A. he wasn't an overbearing asshat.

B. he had made any effort to refute or take offense to what I said.

C. It wasn't a completely objective truth.

You can't call someone out as an asshole if they decide to insult a brick wall. Crazy perhaps? Yes, but I wouldn't deny that anyway.

Edit: I only just thought about this, but who the hell are these "people" you're referring to? I see plenty of people here who dislike the game, how many of them was I an asshole to exactly? Far as I can see it's a single poster, and he doesn't count as a person anyway.

Vaasman

Oh please, you were totall dick to myself and others in the orginal BI threads but don't make the misstake that I'm on some kinda of vendetta towards you.Past is in the past.I just kinda dont like you and thats about it.

However your just being nasty now. "and he doesn't count as a person anyway" Come on bro. I might have the tendency to troll here and there but that was just hateful.

You are oozing self-entitlement.If someone sees things differently then he "doesn't get it" or hes an idiot and not only that, you are being really f*cking nasty right now.

Oh well.Not really looking for conversation and if you want to be analyzed go to a f*cking therapist so yeah...

I see what you are doing there. You'r not skilled enough to play meh game. :P

toodles

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="beganoo"]

Oh please, you were totall dick to myself and others in the orginal BI threads but don't make the misstake that I'm on some kinda of vendetta towards you.Past is in the past.I just kinda dont like you and thats about it.

However your just being nasty now. "and he doesn't count as a person anyway" Come on bro. I might have the tendency to troll here and there but that was just hateful.

You are oozing self-entitlement.If someone sees things differently then he "doesn't get it" or hes an idiot and not only that, you are being really f*cking nasty right now.

Oh well.Not really looking for conversation and if you want to be analyzed go to a f*cking therapist so yeah...

beganoo

I see what you are doing there. You'r not skilled enough to play meh game. :P

toodles

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]The Schrödinger's Cat thought experiment dictates that, according to quantum mechanics, the cat is both alive and dead until it is revealed. It doesn't dictate that the cat might also have turned into a fish or blinked out of existence while in the box.

You're obviously way too slow to get quantum theory so let me break down the analogy. The game never says there are infinite possibilities, it says there are infinite universes. Every change made at the quantum level at any point in our history will lead to it's own variation of the timeline, and those will branch off infinitely with any number of changes, minor or major. That doesn't mean that there's a universe where one day gravity stopped working, or that there's a universe where 2+2= potato. The idea that there are constants and infinite universes are not mutually exclusive. Schrodinger's cat may be alive and dead, but in both cases, the cat was still placed in the box, and left to fate's devices.

You are a brain-damaged chimpanzee masquerading as a human.

Vaasman

Why are there no good Comstocks? Why does Booker ALWAYS sell Anna? Once again, "constants and variables" become a giant hand wave. Then what if Booker never was born? Never fought at Wounded Knee? Maybe killed at Wounded Knee? The story uses that thought experiment entirely the wrong way. The very notion that Comstock is always an evil religious nut and Booker is always a drunk that sells his baby is flat out contrived. While the notion that Booker's destiny's split is true to the thought, forcing a certain destiny and outcome isn't. Why? Because it fails to take into account the INFINITE number of Schrödinger's Cat thought experiments that would disallow destiny being set from JUST one of those thought experiments. And add insult, the game never tells you why they are that way...just "reasons". Not only is the plot illogical, it doesn't cover itself up with great character development.

And in infinite universes, much of the time, the event of Booker at the baptism would never occur. And my point stands, "constants and variables" is nothing more than a handwave.

I absolutely love how I demonstrated the validity of constants in a multiverse, and you instantly had to move the goalposts and talk about largely irrelevant bullshit. You're far too much of a coward to ever admit you were wrong. It's lower than low.

And just for the record, by the time they're explaining the rules of their multiverse, you've only ever seen 3-4. To say that any of those things you listed were guaranteed constants, just because they existed in other relevant universes, is missing the point entirely. There's also the issue that any universe that doesn't involve Comstock is not relevant to Elizabeth or the story, and they don't need to show it. Unless, as is obvious, you're a complete slackjawed moron and need to be spoonfed every single detail of this game as it's own visual cutscene.

Sounds to me like you didn't get it. How sad. Use the term handwave again. Maybe that will save you. [/spoiler] I'm putting the rest of my posts in spoilers from this point on. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean you have to spoil it for a TC who clearly hasn't played. Douche.

If you can't contain yourself to spoiler tags then I'm not going any further with this, thanks.

If you can't contain yourself to spoiler tags then I'm not going any further with this, thanks.

Vaasman

Wait, people actually COMPLAIN about Bioshock: Infinite? The game is as good as flawless. Best game I've played in years and one of my all time favourites.

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

If you can't contain yourself to spoiler tags then I'm not going any further with this, thanks.

texasgoldrush

Man there are some real pretentious people who can't appreciate something for what it is.  Bioshock Infinite has some really taboo themes, especially by videogame standards.   The game is really good and deserves all the praise.

Man there are some real pretentious people who can't appreciate something for what it is. Bioshock Infinite has some really taboo themes, especially by videogame standards. The game is really good and deserves all the praise.

mexicangordo

And really, it seems Levine was afraid of the themes and couldn't handle them.

If you want a game that handles taboo themes well, play Gone Home.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

If you can't contain yourself to spoiler tags then I'm not going any further with this, thanks.

Vaasman

Wait, people actually COMPLAIN about Bioshock: Infinite? The game is as good as flawless. Best game I've played in years and one of my all time favourites.

Mozelleple112

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Good, because you have a tough time defending the game's complete lack of logic, poor characterization, and its muddled themes.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Yea sure, keep telling yourself that ya subhuman.

Vaasman

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] Keep believing your own crap moron.texasgoldrush

You know, even if I genuinely had no idea what I was talking about, it's still hilarious to me that you pretend you are anyone to make that claim.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]You mena basic logic and understanding? Can do.

Vaasman

You know, even if I genuinely had no idea what I was talking about, it's still hilarious to me that you are anyone to make that claim.

TC, just get the game.  Ignore the asshats that are hating on it.

As with every game there's a possibility you won't find it fun.  There's a possibility you won't like the narrative or the characters.  But more then enough people think that BioShock Infinite is interesting and unique enough to give a shot.  At the very least, give this game a shot.

Ignore what you're reading about how it doesn't use themes of racism, nationalism or any of that crap because they aren't the actual theme of the game.  Ignore the whole "there can't be constants and variables" nonsense because that has no bearing on whether you should go into this game or not.

Play it because it's unique, ambitious, interesting and fun.  If you don't like it you won't be the only person in the world, but it's cool enough to try out and I think you will fall under the camp most people are in, the game is spectacular.

Still one of the best first person shooters I've played. Looking forward to returning to Rapture in the upcoming DLCs.GiantAssPanda

actually going back to exploration and unique gameplay instead of a Painkiller clone.texasgoldrush

Its a good game.  I recommend playing it.  I was kind of disappointed by it though.  Bioshock 1 had a consistent theme and story throughout the game.  It began as a discussion of individualism and collectivism and ended as a discussion of individualism and collectivism.  Bioshock Infinite started as a discussion of nationalism and patriotism and ended with multiple universes as the focal point.  

I really feel like they changed direction part way through the game, and not for the better.  

They really hyped up Elizabeth as a great sidekick.  I thought she was a decent character when I finished, but nowhere near Alyx from HL2.  Once I played and beat The Last of Us I looked back on Elizabeth as a sort of pathetic attempt at something great.  I realized just how poor her character actually was in terms of story and writing.  The player could have gone through the entire game having never met Elizabeth and the story wouldn't have been much different when it comes down to it.  I never once felt connected to her.  To me she was just a pointless sidekick throughout most of the game that occasionally threw me silver dollars.  

There was also too much looting.  

Buy it.  Its good, just don't expect it to be amazing like the first one.

Its a good game.  I recommend playing it.  I was kind of disappointed by it though.  Bioshock 1 had a consistent theme and story throughout the game.  It began as a discussion of individualism and collectivism and ended as a discussion of individualism and collectivism.  Bioshock Infinite started as a discussion of nationalism and patriotism and ended with multiple universes as the focal point.  

I really feel like they changed direction part way through the game, and not for the better.  

They really hyped up Elizabeth as a great sidekick.  I thought she was a decent character when I finished, but nowhere near Alyx from HL2.  Once I played and beat The Last of Us I looked back on Elizabeth as a sort of pathetic attempt at something great.  I realized just how poor her character actually was in terms of story and writing.  The player could have gone through the entire game having never met Elizabeth and the story wouldn't have been much different when it comes down to it.  I never once felt connected to her.  To me she was just a pointless sidekick throughout most of the game that occasionally threw me silver dollars.  

But it.  Its good, just don't expect it to be amazing like the first one.

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I actually preferred Infinite to BioShock.  I think mechanically it was a better designed game, just more fun to play in general compared to the first.  Thematically BioShock remains consistent, but that third act was terrible.  The game just failed to live up to what came previously.  I had the same issue recently with Metro: Last Light as well where the final third was just really dragging on in terms of narrative.  I feel that with Infinite they at least kept me hooked until the end, whereas with BioShock I just stop playing each time after I reach the twist.

[QUOTE="GiantAssPanda"]Still one of the best first person shooters I've played. Looking forward to returning to Rapture in the upcoming DLCs.texasgoldrush

Oh thx for remind me about this game, i still need complete it, got bored as hell when played.

If you like killing your White Male ancestors, then by all means, go ahead. The Israelis may even keep you as a stepping-stool, if you're lucky. Hell, you could even be their own personal toilet and eat their **** if you burn the American flag while you're at it. If the "enemies" in the game were any other race, the game would be censored and banned, and the world be rejoicing whilst they wait for the next White Male killing simulator.Vargion

Someone hasn't played Infinite! :3

If you like killing your White Male ancestors, then by all means, go ahead. The Israelis may even keep you as a stepping-stool, if you're lucky. Hell, you could even be their own personal toilet and eat their **** if you burn the American flag while you're at it. If the "enemies" in the game were any other race, the game would be censored and banned, and the world be rejoicing whilst they wait for the next White Male killing simulator.Vargion

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] That you are incapable of?texasgoldrush

You know, even if I genuinely had no idea what I was talking about, it's still hilarious to me that you are anyone to make that claim.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]actually going back to exploration and unique gameplay instead of a Painkiller clone.NeonNinja

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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]actually going back to exploration and unique gameplay instead of a Painkiller clone.texasgoldrush

Nothing but hyperbole.

If you like killing your White Male ancestors, then by all means, go ahead. The Israelis may even keep you as a stepping-stool, if you're lucky. Hell, you could even be their own personal toilet and eat their **** if you burn the American flag while you're at it. If the "enemies" in the game were any other race, the game would be censored and banned, and the world be rejoicing whilst they wait for the next White Male killing simulator.Vargion

Hint: You spend the last half of the game shooting at blacks and Irish people. Go stick a turd in a bong and smoke it.