Breath of the Wild is NOT 10/10

That is why 10/10, 100/100 or 100% should be something that has never been attained to date. The score are hype value and almost entirely subjective, too many reviews allow performance problems to be overlooked, especially in highly hyped games or those from influential publishers.

A great game is a great game and I'm not riding BotW or the overwhelmingly good reviews from across the board. I merely believe a review score should reflect all aspects of a game, not the reviewers opinion exclusively.

if zelda is a 10/10 then the witcher 3 is a 1000/10 and Nier Automata is 2000/10

@charizard1605: with the pop up text I meant that it's just that, and no voice acting for each character. It's so 80's :p. And having twelve 1 second loop samples made in the kitchen at the developers home is not good sound design, even if the music is good. And the game world doesn't look and feel as alive as other games. The animations are NOT good at all.

There is a lot of faults for a 10 scored game.

Except there's voice acting in all cutscenes, all games have pop up text, the sound design is top of the class here, the world is more alive than any other game world in any other game, and the animations are stellar.

Sorry, but as I said- at least knowing more about the game before attempting to bash it would have helped

Having text punctuated by a music score can create a more emotive experience just as reading a book without physical imagery can create more potent imagery.

This is not a 10 for you, this is a 10 for others, so the point is all of this is just a matter of opinion. And since most of us aren't in the game reviewing occupation, I think it's fair game for us to criticize the review and reviewer but that's once we play the game ourselves. Nothing wrong with having a healthy discussion and debate. All the complaints posted here and else where are all valid points and I agree with them but at the same time they weren't enough to hinder my personal enjoyment for this game where I have to stop playing. There are more good in the game that pushes me forward to progress and to complete the game.

As an open world game, I wouldn't put this over other open world games like The Witcher, GTA, RDR, Shadow of Mordor, Fallout and Elder Scrolls games. I think it's in the same open world level as games like Horizon, Just Cause, State of Decay, Infamous, maybe even DragonAge. Also so far it hasn't given me a "wow moment". I think I know when they are trying to give you that moment is when they span the camera across the land but it just never hit me. While playing the game, I keep on thinking to myself this game would have been so much better if it was on a more powerful system because a performance boost would probably make the world pop, add more on screen, make enemies smarter, make the world more dense and make it more immersive, and finally give that wow moment I'm hoping for. A recent example as a wow moment for me is like the first time you see a Long Neck and you do what you gotta do with it in Zero Dawn.

Despite all these annoyances and missed opportunities, in my opinion BotW is one of the best launch title even though it's on the Wii U too. And although it's not the first open world Zelda game, I think it did the genre justice although I do think it could have been better if the system was more powerful. It's a solid open world game but factor in the Zelda story, lore, puzzles and charm, you have a master piece that shouldn't be missed, it's a must buy. Is it enough reason for someone to get a Switch now, well that's up for debate too. One last thing, the only way I would play this during extended play is using the Pro Controller. Sure if you have to choice but to only use what they include in the box, it'll do, but the Pro Controller is a must and a great investment in my opinion.

For f**ck sake. there is no perfect game out there and 10/10 dosent mean its perfect it means is how much the reviewer enjoyed the game. I know this SW but come on the community here can't be this stupid.

the witcher 3 not even 7/10. its below average/mediocre game.

I would if the switch wasnt so damn expensive.

And as many have hopefully already pointed out in previous replies, a 10 on Gamespot's review scale doesn't mean it's perfect.

- Frame drops are related to the grass, not the enemies. Since you've only played a few hours, you're on the tutorial area, which gets the most frame drops. Outside of the tutorial area, there are far less frame drops. And even on the tutorial area, it's very negligible.

- Menu system makes sense after you get into it. It's not perfect, but it definitely works out once you get into a rhythm of what the expects of you (e.g dispose of your weapons in ways that make sense, such as throwing them at people, and not hoarding). It's actually pretty elegant when you get the rhythm down.

- Resource gathering weapons/shields is not bad since you dispose of them quickly. As for armour/food, it's no big deal. You see that menu only every now and again. And when you do see the menu, it's actually fun to pick and choose what you want. It's definitely not clutter that gets in your way.

- Yeah, it's a gameplay mechanic... Not sure if you can really claim this one. It's subjective.

- Git gud. Also autosaves are there anyway, and you'll only be set back 5 minutes at most.

- I can't comment on this, since there may be higher durability items later on (I'm only 30 hours in). But even if there's not, this is a subjective thing anyway. Some people like it, some people don't. I find that if you get rid of your hoarder mentality and play into the mechanic of moving through items quickly, it's quite fun and no big deal at all.

My biggest issue with your complaints is that you've only played a portion of the tutorial area. At least wait until you've played a large chunk of the game before making a thread like this.

@ghosts4ever:

TC actually has some valid points. I have played about 20 hours and there are many things that I am not really taking to.

There is too much micro management and time spent in menus due to weapon degradation, lack of slots, resource collection, crafting, inventory management, etc.. There is a strong focus on loot collection, but it is kind of pointless because you discard your weapons very quickly as there is no ability to repair them. You also can not customize or augment them. It is a poorly implemented system that adds tedium with no real benefit. When you play a game like Dark Souls, there is purpose and value to the weapons. You have an attachment to them and many even have unique names and abilities.

Zelda has always been more of an action/adventure game with light RPG elements. Now there are more RPG and survival elements that are changing up the pace and feel of the game. The game has become more generic with the more open world/sandbox focus. There seems to be a lot more filler gameplay in between the good stuff.

Old Zeldas were very much crafted/designed worlds with a lot of unique elements to the puzzles, environments/dungeons, items/abilities, etc.. Breath of the Wild has lost some of its charm and character compared to previous games.

There is limited music in the game due to the focus on environmental and ambient sounds. The game has good audio, but I miss the old thematic tunes. There is also limited voice acting.

I find the NPCs very dull and lacking personality. They don't stand out and are not very memorable. Even key story characters that have some voice acting are poorly written and not many fucks will be given during these interactions.

Those are just some basic impressions of the game. I will avoid going on a big rant of the shit frame rate and performance. Poor optimization on shit hardware is never a good thing.

"I find the minor issues most other reviewers point out to be detrimental to the experience, therefore their reviews are biased and inflated."

I didn't expect the damage control for Zelda to be this rabid, but man has it been fun to read. So much salt over an arbitrary number or two.

10/10 does not equal perfect numb nuts.

You're a real piece of work. I already know your counter-argument is going to be nonsense but I just can't resist.

Nothing you like has anything that we haven't seen before so the argument in your second paragraph just got flushed.

You also have the titanic, steel balls to talk about nintendo's nostalgia kick when you're probably one of the biggest nostalgia fetishists on this site. How many times have we watched you lotion up and please yourself over games that even tease to have a whiff of system shock 2 or old school twitch fps' you nimrod?

It's as if the wiring that connects communication and thought for you is permanently frayed.

You guys sure didn't wait long to create a new thread, in response to the overwhelming praise in the sticky thread.

Anyway, the game is an easy 10/10. You could nitpick things like the minor frame rate dips (I've noticed it twice in 20 hours - big whoop), or for being too unique and not 'Zelda' enough (which is just as stupid as people calling it a rehash), or for not having enough music (which is fair, but it's a deliberate choice for immersion reasons - players insteas listen to the ambient sounds of nature). Still, these are minor issues. Everything else about the game is revolutionary, and Nintendo has written the new textbook on open-world gameplay design.

Oh, I guess the WiiU version has more problems than the Switch, so I can understand WiiU players being disappointed in the game.

If you play it on the Switch, however, you'll probably agree that it's a 10/10 game.

so my friend, how many games system shock have compare to how many games zelda have?? system shock is longest waited sequel/remake/reboot. and we dont have enough games like this (no bioshock and dead space are crap).

nintendo target audience is little kids and nostalgic people who grew up playing mario and zelda. because of nostalgia nintendo sell. if nintendo abondon mario/zelda/metroid/donkey kong and start making new ip. they will be dead. no one will care about them.

No, they aren't. It's okay if you like it but don't act like every survival game out there has or needs that kind of crap. And if the game hands out weapons like a grandma hands out candy it's not a survival machanic anyway but a simple annoyance. Weapon durability has never been fun and I danced through the house naked in celebration when Nioh removed it. I'm pretty sure that nobody would claim that Zelda is somehow worse if your weapons didn't break after 5 minutes.

Every game he doesn't like is either a rehash or isn't original in his "opinion".

fixed cause it's what we really want to say.

@biack_goku:

You must have low standards

Zelda Breath of the Wild is the goat.

Deal with it.

i agree based on the performance (wii u version anyway). a game that has the performance problems BOTW has should not get a 10.

but i dont really agree with the other complaints. the weapon system has been well integrated. there is no shortage of weapons in the game and it keeps you on your toes. it certainly makes each encounter more interesting than the cannon fodder of some older zelda games.

the world itself is a pleasure to to explore. it looks great. there is loads of variety. and the survival mechanics itself make it more intertesting. its like skyrim with the frostfall mod. mapping out getting from point a to point B is also enjoyable.

the cooking system is well done. the menus could be better (i think the gamepad may have actually been useful in this game) but its not horrible. i ususally just cook a bunch of stuff before setting out for a play session and just collect things on the way. thank god there is no weight limit though.

the one hit death thing is the old school way of saying "your not ready for this area. go away". it reminds me of morrowind. thats a good thing. beats the hell out of the enemies levellig up with you nonsense of oblivion (and skyrim to a lesser extent). if it was one hit death but you still had to beat that enemy to progress then that would be different.

at the moment i would give it an 8.5 or a 9. 1 point off anyway for performance issues.

I'm not gonna lie....I didn't either bother reading your post....because you know...it did get 10/10. Your opinion doesn't change the general opinion of reviewers. I'm not even a Zelda fan, but its pretty obvious that Nintendo put out a pretty special game.

I don't like the argument that a game should not get a 10 if the game doesn't run at perfect frame rates or the like. A point should only be deducted if the performance of the game is a hindrance to enjoying it. People are way too picky about frame rate. A lot of the best games ever had poor frame rates. You don't hear anyone saying Super Metroid sucks because of its frame rate issues do you?

Yeah it's not a 10/10 for me either. The biggest offender is the lack of immersiveness of the game and it's a bit boring for me personally. Will give it another chance and finish the game to see how it stacks up but it's okay. Does anyone feel the game was rushed and reeks poor quality?

Your points are friggin minor at best.

Honestly, there are MUCH bigger flaws in most of the other 10's besides Mario Galaxy 2 than this.

You are so right. It is not a 10. It is a 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!

Splatoon.

And System Shock isn't the longest waited sequel/remake/reboot,it's just your nostalgia

@Pedro:

Pardon?

According to Gamespot's review guidelines, 10 means 'essential,' not perfect. It sounds like you don't like open world RPGs to begin with, so it's important to keep the genre in mind. There are plenty of 2K basketball games that have gotten super high reviews, but if you hate the sport you're probably not going to magically fall in love with the game, no matter how good it is.

A prime example for me is that I didn't enjoy Witcher 3 simply because it's not the kind of game I like. Does that make the game bad? No.

I don't know if it's a 10/10, a 6/10 or a 27/10. All I know is that I'm loving it and that it risks becoming one of my favourite games ever.

@osan0:

I completely agree with you.

Well, we'll be sure to add your score to the MC average and see what it does.

I bet you wouldn't be saying that if it was not under the Zelda name.

Nice to see someone's number value placed onto a product can still make people so hyperactively butthurt that they'll post long meaningless rants. Good ol' system wars.

Crafting in this game hardly feels tedious, especially after No Man's Sky. Plenty of sources for food, supplies are readily scattered about the world. Cooking feels experimental at this point. Mainly enemy difficulty seems to limit where I can go and how I get there. I'm enjoying it though. Only thing I feel pressed about is weapon supplies, keep breaking. Still early in game, couldn't start playing until last night. Not a 10? Go complain about the other more undeserving games bestowed that honor.

Seems like they hired 1 female voice actor (eng dub) for all the female characters in BotW.. :P

@jcrame10: So, you like to argue about games you haven't played?

One of the reviewers, Easy Allied has the balls to give it 4.5 stars due to the framerate dip, which according to DF, could go as low as 20, even with the day one patch. I can understand a 10 is not perfect but it's got a 10 even with framerate dives to level of a slideshow ?

The butthurt is real lol, a lot of pathetic fools on this site that's for sure.

Going to wait until after the honeymooning period is over to see if it is this years Uncharted 4: Overrated, disposable and this sites biggest mistake of 2016.

@FireEmblem_Man said:

@jcrame10: So, you like to argue about games you haven't played?

i own the game. try reading the OP next time.

@jcrame10 said:

@FireEmblem_Man said:

@jcrame10: So, you like to argue about games you haven't played?

i own the game. try reading the OP next time.

Prove it.

oh damn

it's funny that virtually everything you mention as a flaw in the OP, just reinforces to me why this game must be a 10/10

-frame rate issues are common for games with taxing elements. It's a fully open world game and the world is full. It is ambitious. Besides, 10/10 is not "perfect". There is no such thing as perfect, and btw I've heard the framerate drops are over stated.

-the resource collection nature/ weapon system is not a traditional approach. If you want all the same beats that are beaten to death in the industry, maybe just pick up HZD

The framerate is pretty terrible.

Opening and closing a menu causes to game to drop frames.

Horizon is better.

I dunno man. The fact that I'm pulling 12 hour sessions trying to complete this game tells me otherwise.

Say what you want with the Switch and Wii U but it's almost unanimous that this is a game you MUST play.

Men, that 10 must be really painful.