Can we finally conclude that Killzone, as a series, has failed to kill Halo?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Who cares, now that Bungie is gone Halo is going to kill itself.

blackace

you sound thrilled about getting a new halo every year.

ah yes. sales. man, if only we went by sales to judge quality huh?

Who cares, now that Bungie is gone Halo is going to kill itself.

Wasdie

Wow. Blind bashing and from a mod of all people. 343i will do fine, look at the guys they have got.

Infact, i think 343i could possibly do even better than Bungie.

[QUOTE="SHR3DD3D"]

[QUOTE="iwasgood2u"] how is that damage control? u lemmings were creating threads after threads with failed claims about reach being the next graphic king but it even got beat by killzone 2. haha whos laughing now. it hurts doesnt it that your poor reach failed to meet your expectation so you settle for the gameplay and score. if it scored an 8.5 here you wouldnt be talking but we all now GS gives any halo FPS an easy 9. i bet you anything halo remake in HD will get a 9 and above. hahaha weak stop it with the damage control this and that. is that all people like you can come up ?

the next halo will be called "Halo : In search for the Graphic King". GS will give it a 10!!!

iwasgood2u

Wow, it is quite hilarious. :lol:

When cowss realize that Killzone has got nothing on Halo in terms of gameplay, character development, story and multiplayer, they go for the graphics!

Absolutely not, why would I do that? :|

Killzone transcends Halo in graphics and visuals--clearly, that is what GG has concentrated on. However, when it comes to pretty much everything else, most reviewers and gamers agree that Halo is superior. :) Quite possibly because it is.

Wow, it is quite hilarious. :lol:

When cowss realize that Killzone has got nothing on Halo in terms of gameplay, character development, story and multiplayer, they go for the graphics!

SHR3DD3D

I don't see how KZ3 got knocked below a nine when every other FPS with crap stories get 9. 9.5 based on multiplayer.

[QUOTE="iwasgood2u"][QUOTE="SHR3DD3D"]

Wow, it is quite hilarious. :lol:

When cowss realize that Killzone has got nothing on Halo in terms of gameplay, character development, story and multiplayer, they go for the graphics!

SHR3DD3D

Absolutely not, why would I do that? :|

Killzone transcends Halo in graphics and visuals--clearly, that is what GG has concentrated on. However, when it comes to pretty much everything else, most reviewers and gamers agree that Halo is superior. :) Quite possibly because it is.

[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]

[QUOTE="UpJTBoogie"] Wait how is it generic? What game is like Killzone?

Messiahbolical-

And heck, even when the shooting would start, it felt worse than KZ2. idk, something about it doesn't feel right, and I don't like it. I know some people on this forum find it so hard to believe that anyone could not like Killzone, but hey, that's how it is. I like Medal of Honor, most people don't. Ah, opinions.

Since you do think I'm just bashing it for no reason, you'd do well to look up my trophy history on my PSN ID, and see that I have nearly all the trophies for Killzone 2. I played that a game a ton and liked it for a while. So when I say I'm unimpressed with this beta, I mean it. Like I said in another post, KZ2 is more enjoyable.

PSN ID is the same as GameSpot name.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Who cares, now that Bungie is gone Halo is going to kill itself.

theuncharted34

you sound thrilled about getting a new halo every year.

ah yes. sales. man, if only we went by sales to judge quality huh?

But that was ok, though. Hmmm...

We can conclude that Halo fanboys are pathetic

Orchid87

Incorrect assumption. Halo fanboys are in fact the best fanboys in the world. It's hard finding so many people with universally good taste in entertainment. Halo makes it a reality.

8)

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] I think we have maybe 2 more Halo for XBox 360 and then we'll see a new XBox launch with a much better Halo game after that. Halo pretty much destroyed all other exclusive shooters this generation in sales. I thought Halo Reach was better then KZ2 overall. Doolz2024

you sound thrilled about getting a new halo every year.

ah yes. sales. man, if only we went by sales to judge quality huh?

But that was ok, though. Hmmm...

you have me sadly mistaken.

Call of Duty killed Halo. Hell it killed everything!

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Who cares, now that Bungie is gone Halo is going to kill itself.

theuncharted34

you sound thrilled about getting a new halo every year.

ah yes. sales. man, if only we went by sales to judge quality huh?

Killzone 2 and 3 were more enjoyable than Halo 2 and 3, just sayin'. Scores don't matter anything

Sgt_Crow

Call of Duty killed Halo. Hell it killed everything!

RandomWinner

yup, but it dosent matter. Its still a great series.

also, I would argue Halo is dead now that Bungie isnt doing it anymore.

No? There both great games, but every game after Halo 3 has been terrible.

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] I think we have maybe 2 more Halo for XBox 360 and then we'll see a new XBox launch with a much better Halo game after that. Halo pretty much destroyed all other exclusive shooters this generation in sales. I thought Halo Reach was better then KZ2 overall. 321orez

you sound thrilled about getting a new halo every year.

ah yes. sales. man, if only we went by sales to judge quality huh?

The only thing game sales reliably indicate is the effectiveness of the marketing campaign, and possibly the market preferences associated with a particular console as well.

Hell, even scores aren't reliable since the medium being reviewed is the same source as these sites revenue stream. That's the way it is 'cause non-gamers would have no reason to come here, so non-game companies have no reason to advertise here. In all actuality, game reviews would probably be more reliable form a site like CNN, or TIME or something, since they get ad revenue from a huge variety of sources.

I think most people here concluded that a long time ago. Even if the games were better, they wouldn't "kill" Halo.

343 Industries may kill Halo. We'll just have to wait and see.

The term killer is so dumb, very rarely does a game actually kill another game. KZ didn't kill Halo because Halo games are still being made, just not by Bungie and Halo didn't kill KZ because KZ games are still being made. I can't actually think of any games that technically killed another game.

Killzone 2 and 3 were more enjoyable than Halo 2 and 3, just sayin'. Scores don't matter anything

Sgt_Crow

Wasint it cows and some media site that said it was going to kill halo? idk point of the matter it was never going to outsell or ourscore halo. Though sales and scores mean crap to me. In the end I enjoy killzone 2 way more then halo and from the beta KZ3 will follow. In the end both offer 2 different types of gameplay experiances.

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

ZoomZoom2490

Halo has been killing itself like Call of Duty is doing. Are the sales high? You bet. Is the quality going up? Nope, in fact the original Halo is still the best (mainly for modding tools given out by Gearbox who handled the port) with each new game getting worse.

FPS died with Quake 3 as far as I'm concerned.

Halo has been killing itself like Call of Duty is doing. Are the sales high? You bet. Is the quality going up? Nope, in fact the original Halo is still the best (mainly for modding tools given out by Gearbox who handled the port) with each new game getting worse.

FPS died with Quake 3 as far as I'm concerned.

Whiteblade999

FPS died with Quake? You have missed a lot of great FPS games my friend. And i'm not talking Halo or KZ or any console shooter.

I still think..It was Call of Duty 4 that killed halo..

it didnt kill it as it still sells and is a solid title... but the campaign and multiplayer is much better then halos though..campzor

I still think..It was Call of Duty 4 that killed halo..

Promised_Trini

[QUOTE="campzor"]it didnt kill it as it still sells and is a solid title... but the campaign and multiplayer is much better then halos though..walkingdream

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="campzor"]it didnt kill it as it still sells and is a solid title... but the campaign and multiplayer is much better then halos though..campzor

[QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

walkingdream

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

[QUOTE="Adamantium4k2"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Who cares, now that Bungie is gone Halo is going to kill itself.

Deadbeatcobra

Exactly! And to add to the sting, COD pretty much destroyed Halo in sales and scores so now what?:lol:

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

BigBoss154

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

BigBoss154

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="ZoomZoom2490"]

graphics: kz>halo

sound quality: kz>halo

AI: kz > halo

animations: kz>halo

story: kz=halo

mp: halo>kz

there you have it folks, halo is just a fan favorite in NA over KZ, that will be all.

BigBoss154

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"] I must admit when i had the beta i didn't play botzone but i would say reach elites kill KZ2 enemy AI. Story however i prefer the Halos, but i guess that's subjective. Carry onspookykid143

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

walkingdream

[QUOTE="walkingdream"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]Especially the Friendly AI, they were horrible drivers.

spookykid143

[QUOTE="BigBoss154"]

[QUOTE="walkingdream"] I must admit when i had the beta i didn't play botzone but i would say reach elites kill KZ2 enemy AI. Story however i prefer the Halos, but i guess that's subjective. Carry onwalkingdream

Killzone 2's AI is unmatched on consoles. Only FEAR comes close. On elite difficulty, anyway. Unlike most games *coughcallofdutycough*, the enemy behaves differently on higher levels.

Halo's was OK, but they seemed derpy to me most of the time.

I don't doubt single Elite's AI. Meaning one on their own. They're great, what I mean is everything else.

What impressed me about Killzone so much was the way the Helghast work in teams. Two would try to flank you from either side, while the one in front would throw a grenade so you're forced to move out of cover. Once you're moving away, the two Helghast that flanked you shoot you at the same time, killing you before you even knew how you died. Sometimes they play dead, too. They would lie on the floor, and once you move your crosshair to another enemy, they quickly get up and run to cover. It's pretty awesome. :P