Crysis 2 'Be The Weapon' Trailer: AMAZING

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="caseypayne69"]None of this video was actual gameplay. No ammo on scree, no map, no health bar. Pretty though. Looked like PC trailer.psn8214

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

If its anything like Crysis, than no way it's Killzone level. It definitely looks improved in Crysis 2, but we need to see more.

psn8214

It had better gunplay.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Seems to me that soon Pc gamers will have nothing to play since they seem to hate all the new games that are coming out. If this was a Pc exclusive I doubt there would be the same negative opinion here.AnnoyedDragon

If it was exclusive and this is what we got? You can be damn sure I'd be criticising it. Based on the material available, it is very different from its predecessor.

That said, if it was PC exclusive, it would likely be a very different game. Remember they are pretty much completely forgetting how the original game ended and starting from scratch, years later. A PC exclusive sequel would have probably continued from the cliffhanger in the 1st game, in which case being based on the same island; and living up to Crysis's environmental and graphical expectations.

Arguably the choice of location for Crysis 2 is down to cities being the perfect environment for streaming, which is what consoles specialize in.

The trick for fans of the original attempting to like this version is to approach it as a stand alone game. As difficult as it is, try to put aside that it is supposed to be a sequel to the first Crysis.

To be honest, that sounds kind of boring to me. It's the reason I was never planning to get Crysis 2 even though I enjoyed going through the first one once. But after seeing some screens recently, and now this trailer, I'm thinking I might get it after all. It actually looks more fun and exciting than the original to me, and the completely different setting should make it feel fresh again.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Are you serious? Have you ever even played the original Crysis? The gameplay looks very similar. I'm guessing console only player.DragonfireXZ95

I beg to differ.DragonfireXZ95

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="psn8214"] Looks like they added a **** ton more animations, actually. :P

windsquid9000

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.psn8214

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

Except when we bring mods into this. It creates a whole different argument.

Example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNb0gMcexeU

You can run longer, you can jump higher and farther, stealth now has "stealth kills" and they can be further expanded with modules. What more could you ask for? :?Btw, could someone elaborate on KZ2's gunplay?windsquid9000

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.DragonfireXZ95

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

There are mods that make the guns look/sound/feel satisfying and fix the wonky ragdoll? :o LINK MEH! :D

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]You can run longer, you can jump higher and farther, stealth now has "stealth kills" and they can be further expanded with modules. What more could you ask for? :?Btw, could someone elaborate on KZ2's gunplay?psn8214

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.psn8214

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

Also killzone has some of the best annimation ever. The gunplay in killzone is second to none.

But looking at this trailer, The overall gameplay may indeed turn out better than killzone 3. It looks like you have alot more freedom of choice and movement.

Both look steller.

No, I read Dragonfire's post out of context and it looked like he was saying that those features were unchanged from the first game :P

windsquid9000

Oh, OK. My bad. :P

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.DragonfireXZ95

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

Except when we bring mods into this. It creates a whole different argument.

Example:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNb0gMcexeU

Might as well play resident evil darkside chronicals if you want to play a game with shaky camera work and controls :P

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

psn8214

There are mods that make the guns look/sound/feel satisfying and fix the wonky ragdoll? :o LINK MEH! :D

It would take me a while to find them all.

However, the ragdolls are the way they are, because I guess it's illegal in Germany to have ragdoll physics on human bodies.

I linked a youtube mod that would add some gameplay elements.

Here's a dismemberment mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=1740&lim=0

Weapons realism mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=1708&lim=0

Advanced AI mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=2255&lim=0

There's even a zombie invasion mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=2437&lim=20

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]Seems to me that soon Pc gamers will have nothing to play since they seem to hate all the new games that are coming out. If this was a Pc exclusive I doubt there would be the same negative opinion here.AnnoyedDragon

If it was exclusive and this is what we got? You can be damn sure I'd be criticising it. Based on the material available, it is very different from its predecessor.

That said, if it was PC exclusive, it would likely be a very different game. Remember they are pretty much completely forgetting how the original game ended and starting from scratch, years later. A PC exclusive sequel would have probably continued from the cliffhanger in the 1st game, in which case being based on the same island; and living up to Crysis's environmental and graphical expectations.

Arguably the choice of location for Crysis 2 is down to cities being the perfect environment for streaming, which is what consoles specialize in.

The trick for fans of the original attempting to like this version is to approach it as a stand alone game. As difficult as it is, try to put aside that it is supposed to be a sequel to the first Crysis.

epic!!!

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.psn8214

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

I think the water you see in the trailer(ex:1:35) is a good pointer that this is console footage, or at least PC On lower settings. Crytek had talked about creating "visually accurate" reflections, yet we dont see that in the trailer.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3RwSpaPVLk

I think the water you see in the trailer(ex:1:35) is a good pointer that this is console footage, or at least PC On lower settings. Crytek had talked about creating "visually accurate" reflections, yet we dont see that in the trailer.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3RwSpaPVLk

ferret-gamer

I think the water you see in the trailer(ex:1:35) is a good pointer that this is console footage, or at least PC On lower settings. Crytek had talked about creating "visually accurate" reflections, yet we dont see that in the trailer.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3RwSpaPVLk

ferret-gamer

That must be the PC version (look at how fast the camera is moving).

:shock:

Holy crap. There is a reason they haven't shown us this yet. Get all of the console fanboys excited only to give them absolute crap in return.

There is no way that's the console version. Mixed console/PC footage? It seems to inconsistent to be just from one platform.

There is no way that's the console version. Mixed console/PC footage? It seems to inconsistent to be just from one platform.

NotTarts

The more I see it the more I know it's just a promo not specific to any platform.

It would take me a while to find them all.

However, the ragdolls are the way they are, because I guess it's illegal in Germany to have ragdoll physics on human bodies.

I linked a youtube mod that would add some gameplay elements.

Here's a dismemberment mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=1740&lim=0

Weapons realism mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=1708&lim=0

Advanced AI mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=2255&lim=0

There's even a zombie invasion mod:http://www.crymod.com/filebase.php?fileid=2437&lim=20

DragonfireXZ95

Awesome stuff thanks! :) I do plan on firing up Crysis one last time before Crysis 2, so I might as well mod it to hell and back. :D

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.psn8214

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] I beg to differ.skrat_01

Well, if you're cool with being wrong, I'm cool too. Killzone has far more weighty, natural, realistic feeling weapons, and when an enemy went down, he went down hard, spinning around riddled with bullets. In Crysis you got that weird impact sound, and none of the guns were as satisfying to use as the weapons in Killzone, plus the ragdoll was odd at times. Crysis did loads of things better than Killzone, but the gunplay was really not even in the same ballpark.

It may be mixed versions, but mostly looks like console footage. There is quite a bit of screen tearing and at times I saw lower spec texture filtering (IE: only trillinear or 2x AF).

Ill regardless it's impressive, and considering the time that these shots came out vs the previous footage...they've had plenty of time to work on the actual engine.

hopefully the consoles versions look good............considering theyve only been showing PC footage

hopefully the consoles versions look good............considering theyve only been showing PC footage

Classic24

[QUOTE="NotTarts"]

There is no way that's the console version. Mixed console/PC footage? It seems to inconsistent to be just from one platform.

Wasdie

The more I see it the more I know it's just a promo not specific to any platform.

Every scene has identical aliasing. Leads me to believe that it's PC at console settings like earlier vids that a Crytek dev confirmed was run like that. The 3D-realtime trailer looks a level better, and doesn't have aliasing like this trailer. Just my two cents. Could be wrong.:P

Excellent. I'm calling it... 9.5 confirmed! :P

Trailer shots ahoy!

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

hypoty

generic? looks amazing to me.

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

hypoty

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

theuncharted34

generic? looks amazing to me.

Every shooter is genaric.

There isn't a single shooter in the past 5 years that people haven't called genaric.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

theuncharted34

generic? looks amazing to me.

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

hypoty

generic? looks amazing to me.

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

That's a bad thing?

If you want tactical gameplay, go play ArmA. The Crysis series isn't some groundbreaking, tactical shooter. It's a pure, blockbuster shooter with some larger levels. You can easily shoot your way through 90% of the campaign if not more.

It's foolish to think of Crysis as something it is not.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

karasill

They are great, they just look a bit plastic to me. Crytek seems to have taken a more stylized approach in their visual design compared to the original Crysis, so that may be it.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

generic? looks amazing to me.

Wasdie

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

That's a bad thing?

If you want tactical gameplay, go play ArmA. The Crysis series isn't some groundbreaking, tactical shooter. It's a pure, blockbuster shooter with some larger levels. You can easily shoot your way through 90% of the campaign if not more.

It's foolish to think of Crysis as something it is not.

You can't disagree Crytek has taken a different route compared to the original Crysis. I never saw Crysis as a blockbuster shooter in the same vein as the Halo or CoD games, it was different beast, not better but different. Judging from this trailer I'm not seeing a whole lot of that difference. It's not necessarily a bad thing considering it looks fun, since when was generic a negative connotation? I am hoping to be blown away when I max it out, though.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

generic? looks amazing to me.

Wasdie

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

That's a bad thing?

If you want tactical gameplay, go play ArmA. The Crysis series isn't some groundbreaking, tactical shooter. It's a pure, blockbuster shooter with some larger levels. You can easily shoot your way through 90% of the campaign if not more.

It's foolish to think of Crysis as something it is not.

"If you put it all together, Crysis is just remarkable. This is a game that pushes the envelope in terms of both technology and gameplay and does so with aplomb. Crysis raises the expectations for every shooter to follow when it comes to graphics, interactivity, environments, immersiveness, AI, and gameplay. Quite simply, Crysis represents the first-person shooter at its finest, most evolved form."

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

generic? looks amazing to me.

Wasdie

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

That's a bad thing?

If you want tactical gameplay, go play ArmA. The Crysis series isn't some groundbreaking, tactical shooter. It's a pure, blockbuster shooter with some larger levels. You can easily shoot your way through 90% of the campaign if not more.

It's foolish to think of Crysis as something it is not.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

Crytek really laid the generic on thick this time. The graphics also seem very 'plasticy' to me, hopefully when I have my PC version cranked up to 11 I'll be impressed.

hypoty

They are great, they just look a bit plastic to me. Crytek seems to have taken a more stylized approach in their visual design compared to the original Crysis, so that may be it.

The stylized design looks great and feels fresh. And the gameplay looks really fun. I think we might have a winner on our hands.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

Don't get me wrong, it does too amazing, but it seems to be emulating the next blockbuster AAA explosion extravaganza shooter. It isn't surprising, since Crytek previously said they wanted more sales.

devious742

That's a bad thing?

If you want tactical gameplay, go play ArmA. The Crysis series isn't some groundbreaking, tactical shooter. It's a pure, blockbuster shooter with some larger levels. You can easily shoot your way through 90% of the campaign if not more.

It's foolish to think of Crysis as something it is not.

"If you put it all together, Crysis is just remarkable. This is a game that pushes the envelope in terms of both technology and gameplay and does so with aplomb. Crysis raises the expectations for every shooter to follow when it comes to graphics, interactivity, environments, immersiveness, AI, and gameplay. Quite simply, Crysis represents the first-person shooter at its finest, most evolved form."

No it doesn't. Sure it was great but it was far from "revolutionary." Don't know if we played the same game.

You want a truely revolutionary FPS play some ArmA or World War II Online. Crysis had some unique gameplay that seems to have stuck (if you would read some previews and not just watch a trailer).

Do you really think Cryteck, of all of the developers, is just going to remake Call of Duty with the CryEngine and call it Crysis 2?

Far Cry and Crysis were hardly blockbuster shooters. That doesn't make it tactical either. But hypoty is right, Crytek did lay the generic on thick. Instead of evolving the Crysis we've come to known, it looks like they're just re-booting it with a more broad appeal to attract more sales. And it's obvious that's exactly what they're doing. Is it a bad thing? Arguably. I'd rather have larger, more varied environments, with more vehicles and the such - you know - stuff Far Cry and Crysis both pushed for. This looks a lot more linear and a lot less unique.Mcspanky37

So it's bad for them to make a trailer featuring action. Would you rather have a few minutes of a guy sitting in the shadows doing nothing to promote your damn game?

Every single preview has said the same thing, the game offers tons of options and tactical gameplay just like the first. The suit abilities have been made easier to combine which only gives you more enhanced control of your character and opens up even more gameplay options. The levels are still very open, despite them being in a city. You don't need a jungle to beable to flank your enemies or suprise them.