Crysis 2 coming to consoles

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Least the PC version is not going to require a $6000 PC to play it and not max it out for almost two years. :lol:

PS3_3DO

The first time Crysis came out you couldn't max it out no matter how powerful a PC you had at the time.

Heck my younger brother's $500 Pc I made him runs crysis all on high at 1280x1024 fine.04dcarraher

Yeah now but in fall of 2007 you couldn't run it at that resolution.

The first time Crysis came out you couldn't max it out no matter how powerful a PC you had at the timePS3_3DO

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Heck my younger brother's $500 Pc I made him runs crysis all on high at 1280x1024 fine.PS3_3DO

Yeah now but in fall of 2007 you couldn't run it at that resolution.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Least the PC version is not going to require a $6000 PC to play it and not max it out for almost two years. :lol:

PS3_3DO

The first time Crysis came out you couldn't max it out no matter how powerful a PC you had at the time.

An 8800GTX coupled with a medium dual-core and 3 GB RAM maxes it at 720p. Crysis somehow feels smooth at 20fps too, so you could crank it all the way up to 1650*whatever on that rig.

That hardware was a year old back then.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

You can't say for sure. The PS3/360 aren't maxed out. Gears of War 2 is still one of the best looking games console or PC and Epic even said they only used about 70 percent of the 360s power.

nVidiaGaMer

Yeah Gears 2 used 100 percent of Unreal Engine 3.5s capabilities but it didn't max out the 360s power. Unreal Engine 4.0 will probably do that.

Yes, and in a GDC interview, which I'm getting a bit tired of linking, he explained how they made it work because CE3 is another CryTek miracle. Don't be paranoid.

And it was said before, they're Germans. They don't sacrifice their vision for console's sake, and they sometimes make the impossible to achieve this goal (Sacred 2 anyone?).

Baranga

Exactly

Not only that but, if they CAN'T achieve their vision, they will simply make 2 versions of the game. A PC version and a console version. Crytek has already hinted at their willingness to do that if they find it necessary to maintain their vision of the game.

I am not worried. Crytek will continue to be PC Lead. Germans are PC gamers. They may make the game on console as well, but the game will be a game for their PC gaming fanbase. Specifically the German PC gaming fanbase who has so vigorously supported Crytek with all its releases... Also, anyone who has followed Crytek knows that Crytek has stated that they will design multiple versions of a game if necessary. One on the PC, and then another different version on the consoles. If that is what it takes, that is what they will do.

Also, given the timing of this announcement, they may be showing something today at the press conference.

horrowhip

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Heck my younger brother's $500 Pc I made him runs crysis all on high at 1280x1024 fine.PS3_3DO

Yeah now but in fall of 2007 you couldn't run it at that resolution.

When it came out, Crysis ran at high at stable 30fps on a 8800 at 720p. Of course, being PC gamers, we don't say a game is maxed until it runs at 60 vsynced at 1050p+ on Ultra with at least 2xAA. Unlike consolites that will crown a graphics king that runs at unstable 30fps in 600p no AA.

We will have to wait and see. The game will sell at least twice as many copies on Consoles and without the rampant piracy there could be a shift. I think other used to be PC only developers have shown this"epic" comes to mind.The_Brodeo

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

I am not worried. Crytek will continue to be PC Lead. Germans are PC gamers. They may make the game on console as well, but the game will be a game for their PC gaming fanbase. Specifically the German PC gaming fanbase who has so vigorously supported Crytek with all its releases... Also, anyone who has followed Crytek knows that Crytek has stated that they will design multiple versions of a game if necessary. One on the PC, and then another different version on the consoles. If that is what it takes, that is what they will do.

Also, given the timing of this announcement, they may be showing something today at the press conference.

The_Brodeo

The only 'system exclusives' aside from GeOW2 they have is Unreal Tournament 2004 and the original Unreal......

Hell UT2003 is technically a port of Unreal Championship for the Xbox.

Does everyone conveniantly forget this?

What next, people will bring up iD?

The first time Crysis came out you couldn't max it out no matter how powerful a PC you had at the time.

PS3_3DO

I realize future proofing is a completely alien concept to consolites, so when I say you don't have to max every game the moment it hits shelves I expect you are going to come back with some silly response.

I played through Crysis on the PC in my sig by the way, minus the second 8800GT. I got mid/high settings at the time and I enjoyed the experience. The thing is the 8800GT is weaker than a 8800GTX, which was released in 2006 just before the PS3 launched. So I would say people were perfectly capable of playing Crysis on settings no console game can ever touch when it first came out in 2007.

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Heck my younger brother's $500 Pc I made him runs crysis all on high at 1280x1024 fine.skrat_01

Yeah now but in fall of 2007 you couldn't run it at that resolution.

And you got about 20 FPS and the most intense moments about 15 I bet. :lol:

And you got about 20 FPS and the most intense moments about 15 I bet. :lol:

PS3_3DO

SOunds like MGS4

We will have to wait and see. The game will sell at least twice as many copies on Consoles and without the rampant piracy there could be a shift. I think other used to be PC only developers have shown this"epic" comes to mind.

The_Brodeo

you don't know that...

Crysis sold 2 million copies on the PC. And they are a EUROPEAN developer. Their biggest fanbases are in Turkey, Russia and Germany. All PC dominated countries. Hell, the style of game that they make is a very PC oriented style that appeals to the hardcore PC fanbase.

I'd say look at id. They may have made a shift to the consoles, but I don't think a single PC gamer is disagreeing with the design philosophy that they have taken up with RAGE. Honestly, it is a PC style mentality.

Valve also embraced consoles to an extent. Yet they focus on the PC. Their design is PC focused.

Infinity Ward still very much designs with a PC mentality. Only they adapt it towards consoles. No PC gamer is going to complain about the level of depth in CoD4's multiplayer... That MP was fantastic. And it was HEAVILY influenced by PC Shooters.

Honestly, console gamers constantly forget just how much their top games are influenced by PC gaming.

I am not worried. Crytek is a studio of the hardest of hardcore PC gamers. They took a risk with Crysis. A risk nobody else would have taken. And to an extent, it payed off. They made an absolutely boatload of money off of Crysis. It was a massive success. But it didn't have the same success as a console game would have had. Not because the console version would have necessarily sold better. No, it is more about the engine. They will make money off of CE3. And simply showcasing what it can do on high end PC's won't sell licenses like showing a multiplatform title that is stunning on every platform.

The PC version will be the best version. Crytek feels that they have failed if they don't push every system to its absolute limit. But the console versions will be viable options for consumers who don't have the top of the line PC's.

Crysis 2 is going to be dumbed the hell down :(aaronmullan

lol crysis 2 will be inferior to crysis since it's being designed for consoles now.19414435335

Uh it's going to use deferred shading, you all know what that means right? It's going to mess up the waters appearance and cut the AA out of options.

Uh it's going to use deferred shading, you all know what that means right? It's going to mess up the waters appearance and cut the AA out of options.

AnnoyedDragon

I like how people go around saying the 360 and Ps3 graphics are bed. You guys must have thought about suicide alot last gen.

Uh it's going to use deferred shading, you all know what that means right? It's going to mess up the waters appearance and cut the AA out of options.

AnnoyedDragon

how the hell do you know that? The press release doesn't say **** about that.

And FYI, CE3 has multiple rendering solutions. HDR and Deferred Rendering are both included. But the developers have the choice.

THAT was why they added it. Deferred Rendering was added to increase the flexibility of the engine. Not because it is better in every situation, but because it is better in some situations.

You don't know what they are going to use with Crysis 2.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

Yeah now but in fall of 2007 you couldn't run it at that resolution.

PS3_3DO

And you got about 20 FPS and the most intense moments about 15 I bet. :lol:

Today EA and Crytek announced Crysis 2 for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. The next instalment of Crysis will be the first game built on Crytek's CryENGINE 3 and will be released for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. EA will publish the game. "The development of Crysis 2 marks a major stepping stone for our studio," said Cevat Yerli, CEO and President of Crytek. "This is not only the next game in the Crysis franchise, it's the first title we are developing for consoles and the first title being built on CryENGINE 3. We are excited to have the support of EA Partners again as we work together to make the launch of Crysis 2 a huge event." http://www.gamezine.co.uk/news/crytek-announces-crysis-2-consoles-and-pc-$1300130.htmNickJD_

You guys do realize that Far Cry Instincts Predator looked better on the 360 then Far Cry on PC did on Max settings.

Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHQcotdfCU

If anything the next gen X720/PS4 will max out Crysis 1 and 2 with ease.

Also kind of off topic but do you think that MGS 4 will be announced for 360. No one thought Crysis 2 was coming for consoles so I could definitely see MGS 4 for 360.

how the hell do you know that? The press release doesn't say **** about that.

And FYI, CE3 has multiple rendering solutions. HDR and Deferred Rendering are both included. But the developers have the choice.

THAT was why they added it. Deferred Rendering was added to increase the flexibility of the engine. Not because it is better in every situation, but because it is better in some situations.

You don't know what they are going to use with Crysis 2.

horrowhip

Angry poster is angry...

Anyway I recall reading when CE3 videos were released it was added for console optimization purposes. As I recall reading they said it would run fast on 360, faster on PS3 and blazing on PC. Consoles couldn't handle the performance heavy "brute force" method used in CryEngine 2.

And all things considered it will be forced into the PC version because the engine is designed that way. CryEngine 3 pumps out console data while using the PC version as the lead platform, which means the lead version will have to be coded with console limitations in mind so that they copy over to those versions.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Err yes it is, its not that open-ended at all.mijkil

What on earth are you talking about? :roll:

GTA 4 and Fallout are very much open world sandbox games, Crysis isnt. Simple as that.

You don't seem to understand the point.

Yes, Crysis is linear in the sense that you always go from A to B (with a few secondary objectives), but you have complete control over HOW you go from A to B and, this is the best part, you can change HOW you go from A to B on the fly. Example: Oblivion is an open-world game but as soon as you choose a class the gameplay is more or less the same from start to finish. With Crysis you can at any moment decide if you play it like a stealth game, like a COD-style game, or something in between, and you can change at any time during the same sequence! I mean, you don't have to decide at the beggining of the game "do I play this stealth-based or more action-based?", you decide and change as many times as you want. For me, this makes it one of the best shooters EVER. Of course, the graphics help :)

Also, the maps are huge in the sense that they're fully loaded into memory and your actions are persistent across the entire map. If you fire a rocket at a village that's several kilometers away, houses and trees will be destroyed. When you go there, those houses and trees will still be destroyed and the KPA soldiers will remember the rocket (and you)!

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

how the hell do you know that? The press release doesn't say **** about that.

And FYI, CE3 has multiple rendering solutions. HDR and Deferred Rendering are both included. But the developers have the choice.

THAT was why they added it. Deferred Rendering was added to increase the flexibility of the engine. Not because it is better in every situation, but because it is better in some situations.

You don't know what they are going to use with Crysis 2.

AnnoyedDragon

Angry poster is angry...

Anyway I recall reading when CE3 videos were released it was added for console optimization purposes. As I recall reading they said it would run fast on 360, faster on PS3 and blazing on PC. Consoles couldn't handle the performance heavy "brute force" method used in CryEngine 2.

And all things considered it will be forced into the PC version because the engine is designed that way. CryEngine 3 pumps out console data while using the PC version as the lead platform, which means the lead version will have to be coded with console limitations in mind so that they copy over to those versions.

The 360 should = the PS3 it has a slightly less powerful cpu but unified GDDR3 while the PS3 has separate RAM and VRAM. The 360 also has unified shaders and blazing fast EDRAM for free AA at no performance cost (supposedly :P).

Man, its like taking that mint condition model car and giving to a bunch of kids hyped up on Red Bull in a sand pit. If the PC version is gimped in anyway shape or form I will not be happy!.

You guys do realize that Far Cry Instincts Predator looked better on the 360 then Far Cry on PC did on Max settings.

Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHQcotdfCU

If anything the next gen X720/PS4 will max out Crysis 1 and 2 with ease.

Also kind of off topic but do you think that MGS 4 will be announced for 360. No one thought Crysis 2 was coming for consoles so I could definitely see MGS 4 for 360.

nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

You guys do realize that Far Cry Instincts Predator looked better on the 360 then Far Cry on PC did on Max settings.

Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHQcotdfCU

If anything the next gen X720/PS4 will max out Crysis 1 and 2 with ease.

Also kind of off topic but do you think that MGS 4 will be announced for 360. No one thought Crysis 2 was coming for consoles so I could definitely see MGS 4 for 360.

skrat_01

[QUOTE="mijkil"]

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"] nor is gta4, you have one way to do everything. same with fallout 3 there are part that direct you certain ways but much of the game is very open. just look at the harbour level and tell me how that is linear. you could swim through the harbour take the road to the left take it to the right, sneck round on the beack etc. it is far from liniear. nunovlopes

What on earth are you talking about? :roll:

GTA 4 and Fallout are very much open world sandbox games, Crysis isnt. Simple as that.

You don't seem to understand the point.

Yes, Crysis is linear in the sense that you always go from A to B (with a few secondary objectives), but you have complete control over HOW you go from A to B and, this is the best part, you can change HOW you go from A to B on the fly. Example: Oblivion is an open-world game but as soon as you choose a class the gameplay is more or less the same from start to finish. With Crysis you can at any moment decide if you play it like a stealth game, like a COD-style game, or something in between, and you can change at any time during the same sequence! I mean, you don't have to decide at the beggining of the game "do I play this stealth-based or more action-based?", you decide and change as many times as you want. For me, this makes it one of the best shooters EVER. Of course, the graphics help :)

Also, the maps are huge in the sense that they're fully loaded into memory and your actions are persistent across the entire map. If you fire a rocket at a village that's several kilometers away, houses and trees will be destroyed. When you go there, those houses and trees will still be destroyed and the KPA soldiers will remember the rocket (and you)!

Angry poster is angry...

Anyway I recall reading when CE3 videos were released it was added for console optimization purposes. As I recall reading they said it would run fast on 360, faster on PS3 and blazing on PC. Consoles couldn't handle the performance heavy "brute force" method used in CryEngine 2.

And all things considered it will be forced into the PC version because the engine is designed that way. CryEngine 3 pumps out console data while using the PC version as the lead platform, which means the lead version will have to be coded with console limitations in mind so that they copy over to those versions.

AnnoyedDragon

Unlike you, I am a Computer Science major.

Deferred Rendering IS faster when there are a large number of light sources. at which point, "brute force" of a HDR would be snails paced.

HOWEVER, in Crysis, there were at most 3-4 light sources in any given scene. The sun, and maybe a couple of lights here and there.

If, in Crysis 2, they continue the outdoor, jungle style of level design, then HDR will be the better choice. Deferred Rendering has a much higher demand initially, but it has better returns as lights increase because it requires fewer passes.

If Crysis 2 has scenes with 30+ light sources, then YES, Deferred Rendering would make more sense.

Again, this all comes back to flexibility within the engine.... Understand now?

Point is you won't be able to play Crysis 2 on a $200 PC but yes for a $200 console.nVidiaGaMer

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

You guys do realize that Far Cry Instincts Predator looked better on the 360 then Far Cry on PC did on Max settings.

Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHQcotdfCU

If anything the next gen X720/PS4 will max out Crysis 1 and 2 with ease.

Also kind of off topic but do you think that MGS 4 will be announced for 360. No one thought Crysis 2 was coming for consoles so I could definitely see MGS 4 for 360.

nVidiaGaMer

Point is you won't be able to play Crysis 2 on a $200 PC but yes for a $200 console.

What does this show? Crysis didn't sell well enough to be only on PC.LOXO7

It sold plenty. It made enormous profits. It just makes more sense to go multiplatform. Larger Userbase = larger potential sales. That is the way of the world. 99% of developers are multiplatform. The only ones who aren't are being supported financially in some way by the platform holders.

Unlike you, I am a Computer Science major.

Deferred Rendering IS faster when there are a large number of light sources. at which point, "brute force" of a HDR would be snails paced.

HOWEVER, in Crysis, there were at most 3-4 light sources in any given scene. The sun, and maybe a couple of lights here and there.

If, in Crysis 2, they continue the outdoor, jungle style of level design, then HDR will be the better choice. Deferred Rendering has a much higher demand initially, but it has better returns as lights increase because it requires fewer passes.

If Crysis 2 has scenes with 30+ light sources, then YES, Deferred Rendering would make more sense.

Again, this all comes back to flexibility within the engine.... Understand now?

horrowhip

Remember we know nothing about each other online before saying stuff like "unlike you" to anyone.

Understand? Sure, but I'm still not going to be surprised if they stick the PC version under deferred shading. Hell they mention it in every articles/video/tech description, so them making significant use of it is to be expected.

[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Unlike you, I am a Computer Science major.

Deferred Rendering IS faster when there are a large number of light sources. at which point, "brute force" of a HDR would be snails paced.

HOWEVER, in Crysis, there were at most 3-4 light sources in any given scene. The sun, and maybe a couple of lights here and there.

If, in Crysis 2, they continue the outdoor, jungle style of level design, then HDR will be the better choice. Deferred Rendering has a much higher demand initially, but it has better returns as lights increase because it requires fewer passes.

If Crysis 2 has scenes with 30+ light sources, then YES, Deferred Rendering would make more sense.

Again, this all comes back to flexibility within the engine.... Understand now?

AnnoyedDragon

Remember we know nothing about each other online before saying stuff like "unlike you" to anyone.

Understand? Sure, but I'm still not going to be surprised if they stick the PC version under deferred shading. Hell they mention it in every articles/video/tech description, so them making significant use of it is to be expected.

it is a new feature. And a damn good one at that....

Why the hell wouldn't they be mentioning? They ARE trying the sell the engine after all.

But, you have to consider the design of the game. Deferred Rendering would have little benefit and massive drawbacks if they are only using 3-4 lightsources... Forward Rendering would be the obvious choice at that point. Because they would be about the same speed, yet forward rendering(using HDR) would be a much cleaner rendering solution.

Crysis: Instincts here we come.

Crysis: Instincts here we come.

strudel420

You guys do realize that Far Cry Instincts Predator looked better on the 360 then Far Cry on PC did on Max settings.

Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHQcotdfCU

If anything the next gen X720/PS4 will max out Crysis 1 and 2 with ease.

Also kind of off topic but do you think that MGS 4 will be announced for 360. No one thought Crysis 2 was coming for consoles so I could definitely see MGS 4 for 360.

nVidiaGaMer