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And you're 8? Reading comprehension leven not withstanding, you do understand that we're talking about little kids, right?

LordQuorthon

I started playing Starcraft when I was 6. Your point, therefore, buckled.

Deal with it.

I started playing Starcraft when I was 6. Your point, therefore, buckled.

Deal with it.

Mograine

And I started playing Civilization when I was 10. The thing is that, unlike you guys, I understand that the world doesn't revolve around my belly button.

And I started playing Civilization when I was 10. The thing is that, unlike you guys, I understand that the world doesn't revolve around my belly button.

LordQuorthon

And that allows you to assume every kid plays Farmville?

And that allows you to assume every kid plays Farmville?

Mograine

No. I'm assuming that video game companies are doing pratically nothing to cater to kids. Nintendo has Mario and Pokemon but, what else is there? Games based on movie licenses? You can't hook up a kid with that kind of crap for too long. If anything, you're driving him away from video games.

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

And that allows you to assume every kid plays Farmville?

LordQuorthon

No. I'm assuming that video game companies are doing pratically nothing to cater to kids. Nintendo has Mario and Pokemon but, what else is there? Games based on movie licenses? You can't hook up a kid with that kind of crap for too long. If anything, you're driving him away from video games.

Which is why gaming is more mainstream with kids than it has ever been before?

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

And that allows you to assume every kid plays Farmville?

LordQuorthon

No. I'm assuming that video game companies are doing pratically nothing to cater to kids. Nintendo has Mario and Pokemon but, what else is there? Games based on movie licenses? You can't hook up a kid with that kind of crap for too long. If anything, you're driving him away from video games.

Please do us a favor and stop posting..

Crysis is successful on small budget. Sells around 3 million.

Crytek complains about lack of sales, blames PC piracy.

Crytek gets greedy and moves to consoles.




General consensus on Crysis 2 is it's a disappointment and inferior to the original.

Crysis 2 isn't as successful as Crysis 1, larger budget, bigger marketing campaign, on multiple platforms mind you.

Homefront outselling Crysis 2





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[QUOTE="Crytek"]The PC market just does not support that cost of development, but going multi-platform does.Crytek

CEO and President of game developer Crytek said Crysis cost 15 million Euros (22 million USD) to develop during a panel about the future of gaming graphics at the Games Convention Developers Conference in Leipzig, Germany. Yet despite the cost, Yerli maintained the game was profitable, adding, "if it wasn't profitable I wouldn't be able to stand here."

The decision to go multi-platform has allowed us to bring a better game to everyone, which has been our goal all alongCrytek

Crysis 91

Crysis 2 86 average based on all 3 systems

Yup,this here says it all.

Looks like someone is angry that their shoddy sequal isn't doing well.

[QUOTE="Crytek"]

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[QUOTE="Crytek"]The PC market just does not support that cost of development, but going multi-platform does.devious742

CEO and President of game developer Crytek said Crysis cost 15 million Euros (22 million USD) to develop during a panel about the future of gaming graphics at the Games Convention Developers Conference in Leipzig, Germany. Yet despite the cost, Yerli maintained the game was profitable, adding, "if it wasn't profitable I wouldn't be able to stand here."

The decision to go multi-platform has allowed us to bring a better game to everyone, which has been our goal all alongCrytek

Crysis 91

Crysis 2 86 average based on all 3 systems

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

That would explain why the made Crysis 2 a multiplat and developed it with consoles in mind.

Good news for consoles, more games, and more games built around them.

Crysis is successful on small budget. Sells around 3 million.

Crytek complains about lack of sales, blames PC piracy.

Crytek gets greedy and moves to consoles.




General consensus on Crysis 2 is it's a disappointment and inferior to the original.

Crysis 2 isn't as successful as Crysis 1, larger budget, bigger marketing campaign, on multiple platforms mind you.

Homefront outselling Crysis 2





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Jankarcop

Is Homefront really outselling Crysis 2? :lol: if true.

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

Crysis is successful on small budget. Sells around 3 million.

Crytek complains about lack of sales, blames PC piracy.

Crytek gets greedy and moves to consoles.




General consensus on Crysis 2 is it's a disappointment and inferior to the original.

Crysis 2 isn't as successful as Crysis 1, larger budget, bigger marketing campaign, on multiple platforms mind you.

Homefront outselling Crysis 2





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I-Scarface-I

Is Homefront really outselling Crysis 2? :lol: if true.

Yes, its not selling well at all. Serves them right.

Yes, its not selling well at all. Serves them right.

tenaka2

Meh I rather see them get good sales because it hurts the people below management more than mangement itself. However I can't say I like C2 very much. It's not a bad game but I thought it was bad compared to C1.

Crysis 2 isn't as successful as Crysis 1, larger budget, bigger marketing campaign, on multiple platforms mind you.
Jankacop

C2 was released in1 month.

[quote="Jankacop"]Crysis 2 isn't as successful as Crysis 1, larger budget, bigger marketing campaign, on multiple platforms mind you.
Zensword

C2 was released in1 month.

Crysis 2 released on consoles where sales are generally all from the first month. If the sales are garbage, they won't get much better. PC gamers surely aren't going to run out and buy it. Why would we? We don't deserve big budget games, only console gamers do..

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

Leejjohno

All I hear is crying how they spent more, went multiplatform, and still didn't get CoD numbers.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

Teufelhuhn

Judging by sales, obviously it wasn't. You spit in the face of your real fanbase and try to run to "greener pastures" and you get ignored.

Greed and Envy; they're part of the Seven Deadly Sins for a reason.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

Teufelhuhn

I don't get why people treat a developer as the know-it all source of all information. Crytek are just a team of gamers whose profession is making games. They know as much as everyone else.

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]

It's easy to point that out but you have to realise that they weren't simply aiming to make a "profitable" game. When you make a game like Crysis and it makes money but it's only on one system (which isn't the most mainstream system at that) you are going to see that as lost potential sales.

Teufelhuhn

Well so far they aren't seeing much of a return, part of the legs of crysis was the fact that people regularly bought the game after they got new PCs and such so it sold over quite sometime. C2 doesn't have that luxury athought it runs excellent on my 5 year old rig (which I did like tbh), and console gamers don't generally seem too interested. We shall see how it works out though.

Seems like its Cryteks own problem if they feel like they can't justify making a large budget exlusive on PC... TBH most(If you're not a fanboy) say Crysis 1 sucks and Crysis 2 is just a horrible console port....

All I hear is crying how they spent more, went multiplatform, and still didn't get CoD numbers.

ChubbyGuy40

They can't even get Homefront numbers. In the end I gaurantee Crysis1 was far more successfull and profitable.

Judging by sales, obviously it wasn't. You spit in the face of your real fanbase and try to run to "greener pastures" and you get ignored.

Greed and Envy; they're part of the Seven Deadly Sins for a reason.

I-Scarface-I

[QUOTE="MrSelf-Destruct"]They do cater to those kids. They cater to those kids and all the adults who only game every now and again with no real technical preference. The thing is, some of those people are going to get hooked, and once they're hooked they're going to want more. As long as they want more there will be someone in the industry to give it to them and it won't be on a freaking iPad. LordQuorthon

So, the process goes like this:

1) Kid plays Farmville on Facebook.

2) Kids likes Farmville.

3) ???

4) KID GROWS UP AND SPENDS 400 DOLLARS ON A CONSOLE/900 DOLLARS ON A POWERFUL PC.

You do understand that's not how the real world works, right?

I was once a kid, started with console... now playing with PC... How do you think it works?

PS3 Sales= 50 million

Xbox 360 Sales = 50 million +

thats 100 million + reasons why PC struggles to go it alone.

... Then make normal-budget games?

PS3 Sales= 50 million

Xbox 360 Sales = 50 million +

thats 100 million + reasons why PC struggles to go it alone.

CwlHeddwyn

i'm sure theres over 100million PCs

also Crytek aren't going to make as much as money w/ C2 than C1

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

All I hear is crying how they spent more, went multiplatform, and still didn't get CoD numbers.

Jankarcop

They can't even get Homefront numbers. In the end I gaurantee Crysis1 was far more successfull and profitable.

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

PS3 Sales= 50 million

Xbox 360 Sales = 50 million +

thats 100 million + reasons why PC struggles to go it alone.

Jankarcop

i'm sure theres over 100million PCs

also Crytek aren't going to make as much as money w/ C2 than C1

crytek just hates pc now and think pc made then and bougt 3 million copies of crysis

[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

[QUOTE="CwlHeddwyn"]

PS3 Sales= 50 million

Xbox 360 Sales = 50 million +

thats 100 million + reasons why PC struggles to go it alone.

Cranler

i'm sure theres over 100million PCs

also Crytek aren't going to make as much as money w/ C2 than C1

I guess we'll when BF3 comes out, how well it will sell.

[QUOTE="I-Scarface-I"]

Judging by sales, obviously it wasn't. You spit in the face of your real fanbase and try to run to "greener pastures" and you get ignored.

Greed and Envy; they're part of the Seven Deadly Sins for a reason.

Teufelhuhn

They were making more than enough money. However, they weren't satisfied, hence greed.

Envy, because they're not content with what they have. They want to be Call of Duty.

I have no problem with the game going to consoles. I understand it's a business but that doesn't mean you need to spit in the face of the people who helped you succeed. Valve develops for consoles and aside from the occassional "Xbox Live sucks" and the old "PS3 fails and is an embarrassment" they've never insulted and trashed either fanbase.

Even though BioWare's last two games disappointed me, at least they've never spit in the face of PC/360/PS3 fanbase. These are two PC-centric developers who started developing for consoles but weren't saying "lol u guys suck and don't deserve big budget games. Thanks for helping us sell over 6 million games but you're now irrelevant to us"

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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]

i'm sure theres over 100million PCs

also Crytek aren't going to make as much as money w/ C2 than C1

Bebi_vegeta

I guess we'll when BF3 comes out, how well it will sell.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]the average pc cant run crysis. if theirs so many gaming pc's then why do no pc games sell anywhere near the console numbers?

Cranler

I guess we'll when BF3 comes out, how well it will sell.