Dev's Say Games Enhanced on PS4 Over PC Versions (Link)

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#401 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]

 

Owing to confidentiality agreements, Reflections couldn't go into too much depth on the relationship of the Onion and Garlic buses with the rest of the PS4's processor, but we suspect that ExtremeTech's block diagram is pretty close to the mark. Note that the PS4 has two Jaguar CPU clusters for eight cores in total, two of which are reserved by the operating system.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-how-the-crew-was-ported-to-playstation-4

 

tormentos

 

Note that is not the source saying that is Eurogamer...

 

Which has never before say that,maybe they mix it with the xbox one.

the developer gave them the diagram :lol: your damage control is off the chartz :cool:

bu bu bu teh secondary processor will handle all the OS :cry: :cry:

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#402 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

tormentos

 

Yeah because those GPU will be free right.?

 

Build me a PC with PS4 performance for $399 and then talk.

 

Those $399 will last me 7 years if not more without having to worry about upgrading to play games.

So basically you want me to build a gimped PC that really can't do much outside of what a platform holder wants and top that off with it not being able to be upgraded EVER?

No. That would be stupid. That would be a console.

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#403 tormentos
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the developer gave them the diagram :lol: your damage control is off the chartz :cool:Tessellation

 

If you are talking about that screen you posted mind you that the screen is old in fact Ron posted it several days ago..:lol:

And in fact in what you quote they refuse to go into detail,so yeah what make you think they confirmed 2 core for OS when tehy would not even go into detail about garlic and onion.

 

By the way like i told ron i was right and he was reading the screen wrong,the PS4 has several bandwidth appart and that was confirmed today so 176GB/s for the GPU alone + 20 for the CPU,that put the final nail on the xbox one devate over bandwidth.

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#404 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]the developer gave them the diagram :lol: your damage control is off the chartz :cool:tormentos

 

If you are talking about that screen you posted mind you that the screen is old in fact Ron posted it several days ago..:lol:

And in fact in what you quote they refuse to go into detail,so yeah what make you think they confirmed 2 core for OS when tehy would not even go into detail about garlic and onion.

 

By the way like i told ron i was right and he was reading the screen wrong,the PS4 has several bandwidth appart and that was confirmed today so 176GB/s for the GPU alone + 20 for the CPU,that put the final nail on the xbox one devate over bandwidth.

dat butthurt essay :cool: Digital Foundry > your shit opinion,2 cores reserved for the OS proven by the developers #dealwithit and #staybutthurt :cool:
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#405 tormentos
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So basically you want me to build a gimped PC that really can't do much outside of what a platform holder wants and top that off with it not being able to be upgraded EVER?

No. That would be stupid. That would be a console.

heretrix

 

 

A $399 PC will serve you for nothing.

 

A $399 PS4 will give me some incredible games,already Infamous look CG like,and is a launch window game..:lol:

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#406 tormentos
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dat butthurt essay :cool: Digital Foundry > your shit opinion,2 cores reserved for the OS proven by the developers #dealwithit and #staybutthurt :cool:Tessellation

 

Your and idiot,when sony confirm this is a fact other wise DF mix that up lemming.

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#407 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] dat butthurt essay :cool: Digital Foundry > your shit opinion,2 cores reserved for the OS proven by the developers #dealwithit and #staybutthurt :cool:tormentos

 

Your and idiot,when sony confirm this is a fact other wise DF mix that up lemming.

keep making excuses this news devastated you :lol: Digital Foundry and their info provided by developers > you :cool: #staymad
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] dat butthurt essay :cool: Digital Foundry > your shit opinion,2 cores reserved for the OS proven by the developers #dealwithit and #staybutthurt :cool:Tessellation

 

Your and idiot,when sony confirm this is a fact other wise DF mix that up lemming.

keep making excuses this news devastated you :lol: Digital Foundry and their info provided by developers > you :cool: #staymad

But it would still be more powerful then Xbone even if true, why you so mad? 

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Oh i know because it's so hard to use a PC, just point and click, maybe what you should say is it's hard for Microsoft to manufacture an O.S. that works well enough to be able to play games without any hassles. I guess they didn't steal the right things from apple over the years because here it is 2013 and they still can't get it right.evildead6789

Steam, Windows and video card drivers automatically update. If you can't grasp that and can't afford a 5 dollar video cable then yeah, I can see why you don't like PCs. Breathing is probably hard for you as well.  Good luck with that. Stay away from sharp objects.

Give him a break, I have consoles and a pc and a console is just more easy going, plug and play no hassle

Pc looks always better and sometimes a lot better but when I boot my pc, I know there's more to be done than just putting the dvd in the drive and press play before I can start playing especially when I want to play on my tv.

Thanks man, that's what i'm saying.
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#410 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

tormentos

 

Yeah because those GPU will be free right.?

 

Build me a PC with PS4 performance for $399 and then talk.

 

Those $399 will last me 7 years if not more without having to worry about upgrading to play games.

Go console boys go.
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#411 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

sounds awful

lostrib

 

Yeah so much upgrades sounds that way..

being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.

Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

So basically you want me to build a gimped PC that really can't do much outside of what a platform holder wants and top that off with it not being able to be upgraded EVER?

No. That would be stupid. That would be a console.

tormentos

 

 

A $399 PC will serve you for nothing.

 

A $399 PS4 will give me some incredible games,already Infamous look CG like,and is a launch window game..:lol:

 

This ^^^

 

Really at $400 PS4 is a good Deal powerhouse and gives a $900 dollar PC a run for its money as far as gaming performance goes.

Also those PS4 exclusives look amazing so far. Killzone SF, looks graphically in the same ballpark as Crysis 3, hell even the Free to Play games are impressive. Infamous: Second Son looks pristine.

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#413 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Your and idiot,when sony confirm this is a fact other wise DF mix that up lemming.

AM-Gamer

keep making excuses this news devastated you :lol: Digital Foundry and their info provided by developers > you :cool: #staymad

But it would still be more powerful then Xbone even if true, why you so mad? 

dat butthurt,keep it coming #staymad. :cool:
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But it would still be more powerful then Xbone even if true, why you so mad? 

AM-Gamer

 

Shhhhhh don't spoil his fun,let teh lemming has something at least..

 

Yeah Tessellation the PS4 reserve 2 cores..

 

But the PS4 still have 700Gflosp in power more..:lol:

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#415 tormentos
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dat butthurt,keep it coming #staymad. :cool:Tessellation

 

Are you drunk again..:lol:

 

How is he butthurt the only thing taht could be even interpret as bad is having 2 cores for OS,which teh xbox one has to..:lol:

 

The rest basically confirms that the PS4 is not a drop down 7850,is more powerful and allow for more controls that your average PC GPU,and that the PS4 without doubt >>>>>>>>> xbox one..:lol:

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#416 tormentos
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

sounds awful

lostrib

 

Yeah so much upgrades sounds that way..

being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.

 

But how does the PS4 prevent me from upgrading.?

 

I mean if i want to upgrade i buye a PC.:lol:

 

But i got tire of that sh**,one GPU will last me for years without worries,as we all know Crysis 3 hit the xbox 360 and PS3,regarless of the graphics it was the same game,now ron it on a 7800GTX or X1800 which are 2005 GPU see if you can..

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#417 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Yeah so much upgrades sounds that way..

Slimmin360

being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.

Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.

Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see your face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

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#418 NonBiasOwnage
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"] keep making excuses this news devastated you :lol: Digital Foundry and their info provided by developers > you :cool: #staymadTessellation

But it would still be more powerful then Xbone even if true, why you so mad? 

dat butthurt,keep it coming #staymad. :cool:

I'm sorry but why would he be mad. The Ps4 on a technological scale is factualy better than the Xbox One and cheaper. Unless do you think people actually live on system wars and get mad at stuff like this.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

 

Yeah so much upgrades sounds that way..

Slimmin360

being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.

Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.

Jeez you're an idiot. Firstly, let's change that $399 for PS4 to $900 over 10 years since you have to pay for online which you don't on PC. Secondly, you only need to upgrade once every few years to max out everything, not every month lol, you clearly know absolutely nothing about hardware. Thirdly, PC gamers actually have jobs and can afford to spend lots of money on a gaming PC. I personally don't care that I spend more than the average console gamer (debatable due to Steam sales) because I get a better gaming experience and I'm willing to pay more. In '7-10' years the PS4's hardware will be prehistoric. It already has about 1/3 the power of the top of the line PC GPU's.
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by the time the ps4 even comes out, there's gonna be plenty of pcs capable of making it look ancient in comparison. static vs dynamic hardware is such a stupid debate.
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#421 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] dat butthurt,keep it coming #staymad. :cool:tormentos

 

Are you drunk again..:lol:

 

How is he butthurt the only thing taht could be even interpret as bad is having 2 cores for OS,which teh xbox one has to..:lol:

 

The rest basically confirms that the PS4 is not a drop down 7850,is more powerful and allow for more controls that your average PC GPU,and that the PS4 without doubt >>>>>>>>> xbox one..:lol:

 dat rage essay full of butthurt :cool:
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#422 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="lostrib"]being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.

Vaasman

Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.

Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see you face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.
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#423 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.Slimmin360

Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see you face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.

In your dreams kid. All they're doing is fighting in between each other about PS4 and Xbox One.

They can't save you now.

No one can.

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#424 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="lostrib"]being able to upgrade when and if I want? sounds awesome.gamebreakerz__
Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.

Jeez you're an idiot. Firstly, let's change that $399 for PS4 to $900 over 10 years since you have to pay for online which you don't on PC. Secondly, you only need to upgrade once every few years to max out everything, not every month lol, you clearly know absolutely nothing about hardware. Thirdly, PC gamers actually have jobs and can afford to spend lots of money on a gaming PC. I personally don't care that I spend more than the average console gamer (debatable due to Steam sales) because I get a better gaming experience and I'm willing to pay more. In '7-10' years the PS4's hardware will be prehistoric. It already has about 1/3 the power of the top of the line PC GPU's.

First of all not everyone plays online or has Playstation plus, secondly the cost of disc based games and Steam games on PC combined easily works out to be as much has a 5 year stretch of Playstation plus at $50 a year if not more. PSN also offers a set amount of free full PS3 and PSN games every month, does Steam do that? Maybe it was exaggerated about the PC monthly upgrade but PS4 and all other consoles have a 5 to 10 year life cycle while PC's must be upgraded at least once a year. Therefore the $399 PS4 is still the better buy.
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#425 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see you face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

Vaasman

Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.

In your dreams kid. All they're doing is fighting in between each other about PS4 and Xbox One.

They can't save you now.

No one can.

Don't need saving, the lowest end PC is more expensive than PS4 and can't touch the quality of games on it, which are on par with the highest costing PC's.
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#426 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.Slimmin360

In your dreams kid. All they're doing is fighting in between each other about PS4 and Xbox One.

They can't save you now.

No one can.

Don't need saving, the lowest end PC is more expensive than PS4 and can't touch the quality of games on it, which are on par with the highest costing PC's.

Oh but you do. More than you can imagine. The only real question is, how do you save someone from themselves?

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.Slimmin360

Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see you face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

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#428 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]Really you should have just let the thread lie. No one wants to see you face flattened into the floor twice in one day.

CaseyWegner

Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.
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#429 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.Slimmin360

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.

With a response like that, the cavalry must have turned around and trampled you.

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You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix
lol have fun paying for dat graphix upgrades
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#431 Slimmin360
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

Vaasman

Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.

With a response like that, the cavalry must have turned around and trampled you.

Nope just saying it like it is, come november i'll be diving into my new PS4 and PC boys will be buying another hardware upgrade to run the next crysis game.
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#433 Slimmin360
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:lol:

...

No.

Puckhog04
We'll see.
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#434 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.Slimmin360

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.

this is why people say you know nothing about pc gaming. you think you need to upgrade every year? :|

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Why should i have let the thread lie? because the cavalry has finally arrived....the consoles boys are finally putting you guys in your place.....and i'm lovin' it.Slimmin360

there already were console boys and they were telling you you were wrong too.

Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.

AMD or NVIDIA's model number rename tricks works on you.
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Whatever PC fanboys keep dumping hundreds of dollars into your PC's year after year while we console guys enjoy AAA game after AAA game without dumping any money into hardware.Slimmin360

With a response like that, the cavalry must have turned around and trampled you.

Nope just saying it like it is, come november i'll be diving into my new PS4 and PC boys will be buying another hardware upgrade to run the next crysis game.

You do that. I doubt anyone cares.

PC gamers will continue to enjoy great games on the PC, with the best graphics and performance, and with game expanding mods, cheaper games and free online. Again, I don't think anybody cares if you will only be gaming on a PS4. Many of us will be getting a PS4 for the few exclusives anyway.

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Current evidence implies the contrary.

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#438 commander
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.

Jeez you're an idiot. Firstly, let's change that $399 for PS4 to $900 over 10 years since you have to pay for online which you don't on PC. Secondly, you only need to upgrade once every few years to max out everything, not every month lol, you clearly know absolutely nothing about hardware. Thirdly, PC gamers actually have jobs and can afford to spend lots of money on a gaming PC. I personally don't care that I spend more than the average console gamer (debatable due to Steam sales) because I get a better gaming experience and I'm willing to pay more. In '7-10' years the PS4's hardware will be prehistoric. It already has about 1/3 the power of the top of the line PC GPU's.

First of all not everyone plays online or has Playstation plus, secondly the cost of disc based games and Steam games on PC combined easily works out to be as much has a 5 year stretch of Playstation plus at $50 a year if not more. PSN also offers a set amount of free full PS3 and PSN games every month, does Steam do that? Maybe it was exaggerated about the PC monthly upgrade but PS4 and all other consoles have a 5 to 10 year life cycle while PC's must be upgraded at least once a year. Therefore the $399 PS4 is still the better buy.

It doesn't matter, look at the games on consoles lately, the consoles can hardly run it anymore, the lifecycle of consoles is exagerrated. A pc may be more expensive you think, but i already bought + 2 xboxes. The first one was too noisy and the dvd drive was making noise for the wear and tear. That, xboxlive and the higher price on the games pretty much evens it out And if it doesn't, then the pc is more expensive still but at least i can play games on decent quality, which is hardly the case anymore on the consoles.
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#439 kalipekona
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Hermit gieneys getting blasted by all this PS4 news. It's a hermit hymen holocaust. 

Needing 3 tritons just to run last gen Xbox ports like Skyrim and Crysis 2 with mods. Kinda sad; and a bit sick I might add. 

Meanwhile graphic king KZ:SF running on a $400 PS4 with what? 4-5X the poly count? 

 

Herms yern for exclusives but just get duked and nuked while lookin like douches. 

Pray_to_me

God knows the PS3 can't handle multiplats worth a dam. No wonder all you cows do is hype the few good PS3 exclusives, the PS3 is last when it comes to multiplats (which comprise the vast majority of games).

KZSF is well behind Crysis 3. Take off the Sony fanboy goggles.

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#440 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Poor hermits, their games gimped by low-spec machines and outclassed by the PS4. :(

Slimmin360

No truer words were ever spoken.

Why are you console fanboys so delusional? Do you honestly believe the PS4 will outclass the PC?

Next gen multiplats will never be as good on the PS4 as they will be on the PC. And the exclusives shown so far don't even surpass high end PC titles from this generation, let alone next generation.

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#441 commander
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Hermit gieneys getting blasted by all this PS4 news. It's a hermit hymen holocaust. 

Needing 3 tritons just to run last gen Xbox ports like Skyrim and Crysis 2 with mods. Kinda sad; and a bit sick I might add. 

Meanwhile graphic king KZ:SF running on a $400 PS4 with what? 4-5X the poly count? 

 

Herms yern for exclusives but just get duked and nuked while lookin like douches. 

kalipekona

God knows the PS3 can't handle multiplats worth a dam. No wonder all you cows do is hype the few good PS3 exclusives, the PS3 is last when it comes to multiplats (which comprise the vast majority of games).

KZSF is well behind Crysis 3. Take off the Sony fanboy goggles.

Yeah this dude lol
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#442 adamosmaki
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"] Yeah lets keep dumping money into hardware just to play the latest games every month..yeah upgrades...whooo hooo!!! Or you can just spend $399 and play great games for 7 to 10 years on PS4.Slimmin360
Jeez you're an idiot. Firstly, let's change that $399 for PS4 to $900 over 10 years since you have to pay for online which you don't on PC. Secondly, you only need to upgrade once every few years to max out everything, not every month lol, you clearly know absolutely nothing about hardware. Thirdly, PC gamers actually have jobs and can afford to spend lots of money on a gaming PC. I personally don't care that I spend more than the average console gamer (debatable due to Steam sales) because I get a better gaming experience and I'm willing to pay more. In '7-10' years the PS4's hardware will be prehistoric. It already has about 1/3 the power of the top of the line PC GPU's.

First of all not everyone plays online or has Playstation plus, secondly the cost of disc based games and Steam games on PC combined easily works out to be as much has a 5 year stretch of Playstation plus at $50 a year if not more. PSN also offers a set amount of free full PS3 and PSN games every month, does Steam do that? Maybe it was exaggerated about the PC monthly upgrade but PS4 and all other consoles have a 5 to 10 year life cycle while PC's must be upgraded at least once a year. Therefore the $399 PS4 is still the better buy.

1. Every year? Try every 2-3 years that the average pc gamer does. I still have a 2010 phenom II and a 6870 and i play at high or mostly high settings most games out there

2. When you can find me GTA4 or Bioshock 1+2 for or Batman games for $5  then tell me buying games on consoles its cheaper and then tell me it works out as much as a 5year stretch on playstation  plus the $50 ( let alone 95% of pc games launch at $10-20 less )

3. I dont have to pay to play online unlike you 

4. There are quite a few free games on steam one of which is Dota 2 you know that just got reviewed and got a 9 and others include the likes of Team fortress 2

5.Steam is not the only DD service. Far from it in fact gamersgate/greenmangaming and Gog often have even better sales than steam ( let alone the psn,xbox "sales" if you call a 20-30% sale )

6.Good luck with backward compatibility 

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#443 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

tormentos

 

Yeah because those GPU will be free right.?

 

Build me a PC with PS4 performance for $399 and then talk.

 

Those $399 will last me 7 years if not more without having to worry about upgrading to play games.

Why should anyone care about your artificial limitations? It's like a Wii U owner saying "show me a PS4 that I can buy for $299, then we'll talk". 

Sometimes we choose to pay more to get something better. In reality, though, I don't think I will be spending more than the price of the PS4 to upgrade my graphics card and have graphics and performance that beat the consoles all generation long.

My Hd 7950 will be good enough to allow me to play next gen games without even having to buy a new console...and a year or two into the generation I'll get something like a GTX 970.

Show me a PS4 that doesn't require you to spend another $350 over those 7 years in order to play games online, then we'll talk.

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#444 kalipekona
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[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

You are an idiot if you think that this will last long, if AT ALL.

True story: By the time these consoles launch there will be new video cards on the market that will demolish anything that the consoles can render. On top of that while you are stuck with what's in the console with no option to upgrade, new PC graphics cards will be introduced EVERY YEAR during the entire console life cycle.

We go through this every time a console launches and you dumbasses still haven't figured it out yet.

heretrix

 

Yeah because those GPU will be free right.?

 

Build me a PC with PS4 performance for $399 and then talk.

 

Those $399 will last me 7 years if not more without having to worry about upgrading to play games.

So basically you want me to build a gimped PC that really can't do much outside of what a platform holder wants and top that off with it not being able to be upgraded EVER?

No. That would be stupid. That would be a console.

:o......:lol:

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#446 commander
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[QUOTE="Slimmin360"][QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] Jeez you're an idiot. Firstly, let's change that $399 for PS4 to $900 over 10 years since you have to pay for online which you don't on PC. Secondly, you only need to upgrade once every few years to max out everything, not every month lol, you clearly know absolutely nothing about hardware. Thirdly, PC gamers actually have jobs and can afford to spend lots of money on a gaming PC. I personally don't care that I spend more than the average console gamer (debatable due to Steam sales) because I get a better gaming experience and I'm willing to pay more. In '7-10' years the PS4's hardware will be prehistoric. It already has about 1/3 the power of the top of the line PC GPU's.adamosmaki

First of all not everyone plays online or has Playstation plus, secondly the cost of disc based games and Steam games on PC combined easily works out to be as much has a 5 year stretch of Playstation plus at $50 a year if not more. PSN also offers a set amount of free full PS3 and PSN games every month, does Steam do that? Maybe it was exaggerated about the PC monthly upgrade but PS4 and all other consoles have a 5 to 10 year life cycle while PC's must be upgraded at least once a year. Therefore the $399 PS4 is still the better buy.

1. Every year? Try every 2-3 years that the average pc gamer does. I still have a 2010 phenom II and a 6870 and i play at high or mostly high settings most games out there

2. When you can find me GTA4 or Bioshock 1+2 for or Batman games for $5  then tell me buying games on consoles its cheaper and then tell me it works out as much as a 5year stretch on playstation  plus the $50 ( let alone 95% of pc games launch at $10-20 less )

3. I dont have to pay to play online unlike you 

4. There are quite a few free games on steam one of which is Dota 2 you know that just got reviewed and got a 9 and others include the likes of Team fortress 2

5.Steam is not the only DD service. Far from it in fact gamersgate/greenmangaming and Gog often have even better sales than steam ( let alone the psn,xbox "sales" if you call a 20-30% sale )

6.Good luck with backward compatibility 

Launching price is a strong point for the console, when the consoles release they have pretty good hardware. The thing is mostly a console dies in it's lifecycle and you need to buy an new one (lately anyway, this isn't a snes or something), combine that with the higher price on the games and the fee for online multiplayer and the consoles aren't much cheaper in the end.

The strong points of a console isn't in is price/performance but in it's exclusives, plug & play, a unified platform, the community and special services (like party chat on xboxlive). The launching price can be important for a lot of people too (but in the end you're not really making any profits)

When it comes to performance the pc will always win, the pc needs a bigger investment, but the games look better (sometimes the difference is so big , it's a crime to play the console version) and games are cheaper to buy.

When it comes to how user friendly the system is for gaming, the consoles will always win. Consoles are plug & play.

Both systems have certain exclusives, the pc is better at mouse & keyboard support and the consoles are better at controller support. However, the controller support on the pc is so good now that there's no reason to chose a console over a pc just because of the controller. It's not the same the other way around though, if you prefer mouse & keyboard the pc is still (by far) the best option.

On the other hand a mouse & keyboard can give you the edge on the consoles (if the game supports it).

And last but not least, the pc can do a lot more than just gaming, and you probably need a pc anyway. I like both systems so I have them both.

Don't ask me to choose, but if steam actually would get's it's voice chat right and implement party chat then the only reason for me to buy a console is to lose weight (with the kinect :) )

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I don't even know what that meant, I'll take reality over some marketing BS.
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Why should anyone care about your artificial limitations? It's like a Wii U owner saying "show me a PS4 that I can buy for $299, then we'll talk". 

Sometimes we choose to pay more to get something better. In reality, though, I don't think I will be spending more than the PS4 to upgrade my graphics card and have graphics and performance that beat the consoles all generation long.

My Hd 7950 will be good enough to allow me to play next gen games without even having to buy a new console...and a year or two into the generation I'll get something like a GTX 970.

Show me a PS4 that doesn't require you to spend another $350 over those 7 years in order to play games online, then we'll talk.

kalipekona

 

Since when teh Wii U is close in power to the PS4.?

 

A $399 PC will not give you PS4 level graphics,a $300 PS4 would still be stronger than a $300 wii U.

 

Show me were sony can force me to pay for online play...

That is liek saying hey you need to pay for anti virus if you don't want to end up fu** up,oh wait i don't need that on PS4,you do on PC..

 

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:lol:

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#450 faizan_faizan
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Show me were sony can force me to pay for online play...tormentos
This statement is silly. If you're going to play the MP of a specific game, you'll be required to pay for it.