Dice Technical director.Why the frostbite engine will never come to the WiiU.

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#1 super600  Moderator
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A recent comment by DICE's technical director on twitter in response to a twitter follower's question about WiiU third party support from them has revealed that the WiiU struggles to run FB2 and most likely and will not receive future support from DICE.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/dice-explains-why-frostbite-skipped-wii-u-6408017

If the cryengine 3 can run fine on the WiiU then their must be another reason to why DICE does not want to port FB3 to the WIIU.

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#2 GD1551
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Well it's not called Wii Underpowered for nothing.

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A recent comment by DICE's technical director on twitter in response to a twitter follower's question about WiiU third party support from them has revealed that the WiiU struggles to run FB2 and most likely and will not receive future support from DICE.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/dice-explains-why-frostbite-skipped-wii-u-6408017

If the cryengine 3 can run fine on the WiiU then their must be another reason to why DICE does not want to port FB3 to the WIIU.

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#4 Clock-w0rk
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You're confusing DICE with EA.

EA doesn't want to support the Wii U.

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#5 Fizzman
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The Wii U has horrible hardware.  Frostbite 2 requires decent hardware.  This should not surprise anyone.  

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Well it's not called Wii Underpowered for nothing.

GD1551

Crysis 3 had a framerate and resolution bump when crytek tested the WiiU's power before they scrapped the WiiU version of the game.

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#7 ChubbyGuy40
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At least post the sick burn.

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#8 super600  Moderator
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At least post the sick burn.

frostbitewiiufzucz.jpg

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I posted that in the lounge yesterday.

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#9 ChubbyGuy40
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I posted that in the lounge yesterday.

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and I posted it in the Star Wars thread yesterday. Not everyone reads either topic.

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Well it's not called Wii Underpowered for nothing.

super600

Crysis 3 had a framerate and resolution bump when crytek tested the WiiU's power before they scrapped the WiiU version of the game.

Crysis 3 isn't coming to WiiU. Frostbite isn't coming to WiiU. Nothing is coming to WiiU. The sooner you accept this, accept the WiiU as a secondary machine, and buy an Xbox/PS/PC, the sooner you can heal.
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Well it's not called Wii Underpowered for nothing.

locopatho

Crysis 3 had a framerate and resolution bump when crytek tested the WiiU's power before they scrapped the WiiU version of the game.

Crysis 3 isn't coming to WiiU. Frostbite isn't coming to WiiU. Nothing is coming to WiiU. The sooner you accept this, accept the WiiU as a secondary machine, and buy an Xbox/PS/PC, the sooner you can heal.

 

I'm already planning to get the next gen consoles:lol. So the only one being stupid here is you.I was judt using that as an example .Crysis 3 won't be on WiiU because of EA.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

A recent comment by DICE's technical director on twitter in response to a twitter follower's question about WiiU third party support from them has revealed that the WiiU struggles to run FB2 and most likely and will not receive future support from DICE.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/dice-explains-why-frostbite-skipped-wii-u-6408017

If the cryengine 3 can run fine on the WiiU then their must be another reason to why DICE does not want to port FB3 to the WIIU.

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Oh noes inb4 cows
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#14 Blabadon
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Well it's not called Wii UnderpoweredGD1551

You're damn right it isn't

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#15 silversix_
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WiikU confirmed, confirmed since before release of the console actually
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#16 Badosh
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Oh no!The idiots are going to be attracted to the thread I just created on SW.

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Like who?
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#17 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

Crysis 3 had a framerate and resolution bump when crytek tested the WiiU's power before they scrapped the WiiU version of the game.

super600

Crysis 3 isn't coming to WiiU. Frostbite isn't coming to WiiU. Nothing is coming to WiiU. The sooner you accept this, accept the WiiU as a secondary machine, and buy an Xbox/PS/PC, the sooner you can heal.

 

I'm already planning to get the next gen consoles:lol. So the only one being stupid here is you.I was judt using that as an example .Crysis 3 won't be on WiiU because of EA.

I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.
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[QUOTE="super600"]

Oh no!The idiots are going to be attracted to the thread I just created on SW.

Badosh

Like who?

Nathan Drake and all those annoying cows.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Crysis 3 isn't coming to WiiU. Frostbite isn't coming to WiiU. Nothing is coming to WiiU. The sooner you accept this, accept the WiiU as a secondary machine, and buy an Xbox/PS/PC, the sooner you can heal.locopatho

 

I'm already planning to get the next gen consoles:lol. So the only one being stupid here is you.I was judt using that as an example .Crysis 3 won't be on WiiU because of EA.

I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.

Third party support won't happen because of the terrible WiiU sales. I'm not wishing for third parrty support because I'm not buying a WiiU for third party support.

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#20 Shottayouth13-
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>Dice >EA That's the problem. Nintendo pissed off EA in some unforgivable way.
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#21 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

 

I'm already planning to get the next gen consoles:lol. So the only one being stupid here is you.I was judt using that as an example .Crysis 3 won't be on WiiU because of EA.

super600

I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.

Third party support won't happen because of the terrible WiiU sales. I'm not wishing for third parrty support because I'm not buying a WiiU for third party support.

Ok. I don't like when bunnies are sad and disappointed. That's fine then.
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I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.locopatho

Unity 4 Pro is a next-gen, third party engine.

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#23 Silenthps
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You should probably change the topic title. Doing a test and receiving "not to promising results" =/= fb2 struggles to run on the wiiu
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#24 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.ChubbyGuy40

Unity 4 Pro is a next-gen, third party engine.

Unity is used mainly for smaller indie games on PC and moblie devices, it's irrelevant for consoles?
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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.ChubbyGuy40

Unity 4 Pro is a next-gen, third party engine.

Unity 4 Pro is weaker than cryengine 3 and maybe frostbite 3.It's mostly an engine for indie devs.

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#26 nameless12345
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Well, WiiU does lack the power and features to run FB3 and if they already stuggle with FB2...

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.ChubbyGuy40

Unity 4 Pro is a next-gen, third party engine.

I think you are the very last member of the Wii U Defense Force. At what point are you just gonna say- (**** it. Nintendo messed up and who can blame gamers for laughing and looking the other direction." Point is it doesn't matter what engine is on the Wii U. Sitting side by side of another console is gonna show what the Wii showed this gen. The game just won't be the same on the Wii U.

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Unity is used mainly for smaller indie games on PC and moblie devices, it's irrelevant for consoles?locopatho

Unity 4 Pro is weaker than cryengine 3 and maybe frostbite 3.It's mostly an engine for indie devs.

super600

It's extremely flexible from what I understand. It's mostly been used for web and mobile and it supports nearly everything. The licensing model is way better than what UDK and CE3 have IIRC. Hard to judge how the engine would looked when pushed by bigger studios when they haven't used it (yet.)

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#29 KBFloYd
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what else is new? 3rd parties dissing nintendo.

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#30 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Unity is used mainly for smaller indie games on PC and moblie devices, it's irrelevant for consoles?ChubbyGuy40

Unity 4 Pro is weaker than cryengine 3 and maybe frostbite 3.It's mostly an engine for indie devs.

super600

It's extremely flexible from what I understand. It's mostly been used for web and mobile and it supports nearly everything. The licensing model is way better than what UDK and CE3 have IIRC. Hard to judge how the engine would looked when pushed by bigger studios when they haven't used it (yet.)

It's not designed for bigger studios, and they will never use it. At best you might get some Wiiware games out of it.
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Cry Engine 3 would like to have talk with them.
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#32 ChubbyGuy40
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It's not designed for bigger studios, and they will never use it. At best you might get some Wiiware games out of it.locopatho

Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity are Wiiware games? :? Not saying we're getting them, but it wouldn't take much for them for any Unity dev to port their games over. That's why Nintendo gives away Pro licenses with their dev kits. It's not like UE4 and FB3 are going to be at their best on PS4 or 720 (though better than Unity games for sure.) The only engine we know for sure isn't coming to Wii-U (until the sales turn around) is FB3. CE3 is already on it and UE4 can be put on it. EA is the only one choosing to not support it. Really sucks cause Commander mode had potential with the Gamepad.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"] It's not designed for bigger studios, and they will never use it. At best you might get some Wiiware games out of it.ChubbyGuy40

Wasteland 2 and Project Eternity are Wiiware games? :? Not saying we're getting them, but it wouldn't take much for them for any Unity dev to port their games over. That's why Nintendo gives away Pro licenses with their dev kits. It's not like UE4 and FB3 are going to be at their best on PS4 or 720 (though better than Unity games for sure.) The only engine we know for sure isn't coming to Wii-U (until the sales turn around) is FB3. CE3 is already on it and UE4 can be put on it. EA is the only one choosing to not support it. Really sucks cause Commander mode had potential with the Gamepad.

No, but they are kickstarted/crowd sourced games by small devs. They aren't AAA blockbusters from a major dev. The unity engine simply isn't used for those type games. They "could" be ported... but they almost certainly won't be.
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#34 Michael0134567
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Lol EA.

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#35 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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1. EA is laughing and taking a leak over Nintendo right now

2. Wii U is so weak it can pass off as a PS3.5

3. An empty room has more interesting content than Wii U's upcoming 3rd party multiplat releases

4. Wii U's doing worse than Vita

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CryEngine 3 runs perfectly on it. Shadow of the Eternals looks incredible. I call BS...there's another reason.

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#37 percech
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The real reason is that nobody wants a Wii U.
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#38 locopatho
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CryEngine 3 runs perfectly on it. Shadow of the Eternals looks incredible. I call BS...there's another reason.

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#39 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="super600"]

 

I'm already planning to get the next gen consoles:lol. So the only one being stupid here is you.I was judt using that as an example .Crysis 3 won't be on WiiU because of EA.

super600

I didn't call you stupid. I'm not insulting you. I;m trying to help you. Stop wishing for stuff that'll never happen. 3rd party ain't happening. Next gen engines and games and devs ain't happening. This isn't news to anyone except like 5 hopeful sheep.

Third party support won't happen because of the terrible WiiU sales. I'm not wishing for third parrty support because I'm not buying a WiiU for third party support.

Indeed. Wii had the best 3rd party support last gen, so when sales pick up, so will 3rd party games... No, not really. 3rd party games aren't coming to wii-u because the audience isn't there. Core games have no appeal to hardcore nintendo fanboys and children. As you put it"I'm not buying a wii-u for third party support". Just like most sheep.
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#40 ChubbyGuy40
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

CryEngine 3 runs perfectly on it. Shadow of the Eternals looks incredible. I call BS...there's another reason.

locopatho

Tech demos mean nothing. Actual games are what matter.

They had Shadow of the Eternals on Wii-U during IGN's interview with Dyack.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

CryEngine 3 runs perfectly on it. Shadow of the Eternals looks incredible. I call BS...there's another reason.

ChubbyGuy40

Tech demos mean nothing. Actual games are what matter.

They had Shadow of the Eternals on Wii-U during IGN's interview with Dyack.

It looks epic... EPIC, E-P-I-C.
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#42 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

CryEngine 3 runs perfectly on it. Shadow of the Eternals looks incredible. I call BS...there's another reason.

ChubbyGuy40

Tech demos mean nothing. Actual games are what matter.

They had Shadow of the Eternals on Wii-U during IGN's interview with Dyack.

They had the tech demo that they are using to beg money.
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#43 ChubbyGuy40
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They had the tech demo that they are using to beg money.locopatho

That's part of the game and they were playing it in real time. For all we know it could look even better than that.

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#44 I_can_haz
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lol WiiU

Lol EA.

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#45 xhawk27
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I Call BS. It could run on the Wii-U, EA doesn't want to give Nintendo any games until they pay up big for them. 

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awww poor Wii U

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#47 campzor
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ah well, tough sh!t sheep. The less resources used for the wii u, the better for 720/ps4/pc
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#48 mitu123
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lol WiiU [QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Lol EA.

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Lol so random.:P

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Doesn't the WiiU have a fuggin Gamecube CPU?

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Well it's not called Wii Underpowered for nothing.

super600

Crysis 3 had a framerate and resolution bump when crytek tested the WiiU's power before they scrapped the WiiU version of the game.

Games running on ps3/360 not like wiiu couldnt run crysis 3.