Do you consider the Wii U a next gen console?

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#1 d_parker
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Just curious, do you consider the Wii U a next generation console?

The question isn't whether it is or isn't, but what you think.

For me, from what I've seen and heard, it seems weak and not something that I'd consider next gen. For me next gen is more than what's out there.

Needing a stand alone harddrive because the system only has up to 32gb and having a controller that can't last more than 4 hours with a charge seems ridiculous to me.

What about you?

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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Yes. YES YEEEESSS!!!! /truth
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#3 MonsieurX
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Yes /tread Only butthurt cows and lemmings like ShadowMoses900 doesn't consider it
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#4 JameMcCabe
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Do we honestly need another fvcking thread about this? Seriously?

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#5 Wanderer5
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Going by release, it most definitely is next gen and the start of the eight gen.

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#6 GunSmith1_basic
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this poll is just troll bait.
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#7 SectorSix6
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it IS a next gen console. i wish people would stop asking this question already
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#8 ShadowDeathX
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Going by release, it most definitely is next gen and the start of the eight gen.

Wanderer5
8th gen of home consoles. The 3DS started the next-gen.
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#9 PhazonBlazer
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Uggh, I assumed the top option would be yes without looking:x

Anyway, yes it is a next-gen system.

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#10 funsohng
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Of course. If we are using graphical power as our barometer of determining a generation, then consoles are always last gen.
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#11 simomate
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Lol I just made a few gi posts about this in another thread. I'll say this one more time, then I will ignore this argument forever. People are misinformed in what makes a new generation. Saying the wii u isn't powerful and therefore can't be next gen is like saying generation z are stupid and therefore aren't the latest generation. Generation, in a simple way of putting it, is more about the period of time the group of kids are born or a collection of consoles/hardware come out. It's defined by time, not power. Wii was 7th generation as it came out in the 7th generation. It would have been impossible for it to be 6th generation as the 6th generation was already over. Therefore, it had to be 7thgeneration. That was the period of time it came out. The same goes for the wii u.
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#12 Bigboi500
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Yes. YES YEEEESSS!!!! /truthShadowDeathX

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#13 campzor
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yes...but that doesnt stop me from considering it an inferior next gen console just like the wii compared to ps3/360
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#14 mariokart64fan
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you know what im sick of this debate how about i spell it out in black and white

lets compare xbox 360 shall we ,,

ram -512 mb -wiiu 2 gigs of ram

ed ram-8 mb xbox 360 wiiu 30 mb ed ram

then wii u has what 360 lacks ---a ggpu - general proceessing unit that -takes the load off the cpu and the gpu

lets see what else shall we

included with the purchase of a wii u is -hdmi cords- whats with 360---oh gee the same cords since snes ---the composite yellow red and white , ---- you judge on that one shall we

thats already looking next gen to me better thne 360 hardware sure the processers a little slower but it like i said has something that 360 dont have,

its tri core like 360 ,

can actually do 1080p without breaking a sweat im sure of it ,

and lets see what else i can find ,, the tablet controller that streams to the machine and you can play the game on the controller without the need for a tv , say your at a hotel , bored as heck ,, ----and we all know how inconvinent those tvs are no problem whip out your wii u and have fun ,

in my book a next gen console is defined by its age , and time of release not feature set , --see ps1 ps2 dc these were all part of 6 th and 5th gen respectively but ---they were not the strongest in terms of visuals ,

and since wii u can handle what a ps3 360 can , once devs know it better im pretty sure they can put more effort into the wii u version it does have more ram then an xbox360 or ps3 , thus allowing more stuff on screen sharper visuals and what ever else without breaking a sweat and the disc type , ,

360-dvd 9.5 gigs at least

wii u -high compacity 25 gig disc much like a ps3 bluray disc ,

so when taking all of this into consideration it is infact a next gen platform , its on newer hardware , as c onfirmed , its not using an xbox360 chip or any thing taking streight from an xbox360 , its got 3 cores similar to the 360 thats about as similar as it is ,

the third party line up is proof it can handle a load! more so then the wii can

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#17 Cranler
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[QUOTE="simomate"]Lol I just made a few gi posts about this in another thread. I'll say this one more time, then I will ignore this argument forever. People are misinformed in what makes a new generation. Saying the wii u isn't powerful and therefore can't be next gen is like saying generation z are stupid and therefore aren't the latest generation. Generation, in a simple way of putting it, is more about the period of time the group of kids are born or a collection of consoles/hardware come out. It's defined by time, not power. Wii was 7th generation as it came out in the 7th generation. It would have been impossible for it to be 6th generation as the 6th generation was already over. Therefore, it had to be 7thgeneration. That was the period of time it came out. The same goes for the wii u.

Wrong. Cant compare human generations to technological generations. If we did then you could say we have next gen tv's every year.
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#18 ShadowMoses900
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No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

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#19 Killzonage
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yes...but that doesnt stop me from considering it an inferior next gen console just like the wii compared to ps3/360campzor
Pretty much.
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#20 TrainerCeleste
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Too early to tell for me yet :P I'm not digging the whole two screens thing,I have my ds for that :P We shall see what kind of games come out for it ^^
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#21 MonsieurX
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No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

ShadowMoses900
Got proof about that edit? ... That's what I guessed,you don't.
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#22 MonsieurX
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And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen ahead
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#23 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

MonsieurX

Got proof about that edit? ... That's what I guessed,you don't.

Like I said, anyone can edit wikipedia, and given to how overzealous Nintendo fanboy are, and in how much denial they're in, it stands to reason that they editited that article. And wikipedia is not proof of anything, it's not very reliable.

You have to look at the meat and potatotes. Show me a Wii U game with better graphics than Uncharted or Halo 4? Exactly, Wii U is not next gen and it's not more poweful than the other current gen systems.

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#24 Cranler
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And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadMonsieurX
Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.
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#25 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadCranler
Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

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#26 hippiesanta
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No ..... they can't even surpass UC3 Graphic
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#27 funsohng
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadShadowMoses900

Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen
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#28 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadCranler
Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

but who decides what 'advancement' means? The wiiu is significantly more powerful than the ps3 and 360, and with a new controller type that has its own hardware challenges (ie impossible on ps3 or 360).
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#29 emgesp
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.funsohng

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen



Sure, it's Nintendo's Next-Gen console, but it's not Next-Gen in terms of visuals. It's a next-gen console with specs slightly better than current gen.

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#30 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadShadowMoses900

Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

Yep, human generations exist to keep the species from going extinct. The point of tech gens is to create hardware thats capable of new things.
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#31 painguy1
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadCranler
Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

So you do admit that WiiU is nextgen? As far as I know there isn't a consumer device on the market that runs HQ video over a 5ghz wireless band with latency less than 1/60 of a seond other than the WiiU. Sounds like new tech to me :?

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#32 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

emgesp

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen



Sure, it's Nintendo's Next-Gen console, but it's not Next-Gen in terms of visuals. It's a next-gen console with specs slightly better than current gen.

I'm not denying that. But it is next gen console, which is what we are supposed to discuss here.
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#33 p3anut
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Whoever voted no is a complete moron. The Wii U is the successor to the Wii so yes it's a next gen console.

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#34 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

emgesp

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen



Sure, it's Nintendo's Next-Gen console, but it's not Next-Gen in terms of visuals. It's a next-gen console with specs slightly better than current gen.

see, that is fair to say. I don't see why so many people are so hell bent to call the wiiu a seven generation console. There's no need to make yourself look so extremely biased. The truth should be enough. The wiiu is an eighth generation console whose visuals are much worse than the 720/ps4 (probably). That seems damning enough. Just say that and drop the silly generation issue. Seriously, the generation something is is about as boring as what day of the week it is. It's not meant to be so contentious
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#35 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.funsohng

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

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An underwhelming next-gen device.

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#37 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

ShadowMoses900

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?
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#38 g0ddyX
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In terms dates.. It is Next Gen.

The fact that is being compared to PS3 and 360 makes it sound like Last Gen.
As that mariokart64 just did.

Things like Half Life 3, Unreal 4, Final Fantasy project make the Wii:U look like a childs toy.

Forget Next Gen.. Wii:U fans should be more worried about Upcoming LAST GEN games ie. MGS, Last of Us, Gears, Watchdogs etc.

Every gamer should be Happy because whatever the Wii:U pumps out, anything after it, is going to be better, mostly :cool:

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#39 OreoMilkshake
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No, I consider it current gen and 360/Wii/PS3 last gen.
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#40 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Exactly. People on here don't understand this.

ShadowMoses900

Well then, that makes PS3 last gen

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

why is xbox in the same gen as ps2? The xbox destroyed the ps2 in graphics. The xbox had a robust online presence. The xbox had a hard drive. The difference in capabilities meant that the xbox could get games that the ps2 could not (ie Morrowind).

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#41 ugoo18
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No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

ShadowMoses900

I would love to hear your thoughts on the next gen glimpse Phantom Pain that seemed to dissapoint quite a few people on SW as well as other gaming forums. With statements ranging from that doesn't look next gen to the Last of Us looked better.

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#42 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] Well then, that makes PS3 last genfunsohng

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?

Hermits overexaggerate, PC graphics are only slightly better at best.

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#43 emgesp
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

ugoo18

I would love to hear your thoughts on the next gen glimpse Phantom Pain that seemed to dissapoint quite a few people on SW as well as other gaming forums. With statements ranging from that doesn't look next gen to the Last of Us looked better.

Who said The Phantom Pain was Next-Gen?
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#44 JameMcCabe
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

ShadowMoses900

Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?

Hermits overexaggerate, PC graphics are only slightly better at best.

That's one thing we can agree on. LOL

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#45 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

How so?

The PS3 is current gen along with 360 and Wii U. They all have around the same amount of power, last gen was Wii, PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube.

ShadowMoses900

Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?

Hermits overexaggerate, PC graphics are only slightly better at best.

Wondering why Crysis has been the graphic kin for so long
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Hell NO !!!

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#47 campzor
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And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadMonsieurX
well we never get tired of hearing it from hermits.
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#48 JameMcCabe
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?MonsieurX

Hermits overexaggerate, PC graphics are only slightly better at best.

Wondering why Crysis has been the graphic kin for so long

It's really only because game developers have not really taken advantage of the hardware available to graphically top a game like Crysis. That's really the only reason that PC gaming is making the breakthrough it has been making in terms of graphically superior games.

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#49 Cranler
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]And gens aren't defined by graphic,then PC would always be a gen aheadpainguy1

Technological generations are all about advancement. Google search next gen tv's and notice that it's all about more advanced hardware.

So you do admit that WiiU is nextgen? As far as I know there isn't a consumer device on the market that runs HQ video over a 5ghz wireless band with latency less than 1/60 of a seond other than the WiiU. Sounds like new tech to me :?

Useless advancement. The last thing ps360 owners were complaining about was latency. 854x480 isnt exactly hq either.
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#50 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] Because if we are talking graphical prowess, consoles are always gen behind compared to PC?MonsieurX

Hermits overexaggerate, PC graphics are only slightly better at best.

Wondering why Crysis has been the graphic kin for so long

Crysis 2: PS3 vs Xbox 360 vs PC - Console Comparison IGN


As you can see, barely any difference. Looks the same to me.