Do you consider the Wii U a next gen console?

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#351 lundy86_4
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Aha, I don't know anything about our set-up to be honest since I don't deal with the technical stuff :P.Michael0134567

You are confusing :P

Grab the Blu-Ray if you have a Blu-Ray set-up. You will be fine. It's rare that you would have an issue with not being able to decode the audio codecs.

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#352 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Aha, I don't know anything about our set-up to be honest since I don't deal with the technical stuff :P.lundy86_4

You are confusing :P

Grab the Blu-Ray if you have a Blu-Ray set-up. You will be fine. It's rare that you would have an issue with not being able to decode the audio codecs.

You're confusing :P.
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#353 lundy86_4
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You're confusing :P.Michael0134567

lol...

I'm not even a Comp Sci major... That would destroy us.

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#354 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]You're confusing :P.lundy86_4

lol...

I'm not even a Comp Sci major... That would destroy us.

Lol I just don't want to buy a Blu-ray with Dolby Digital sound.
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#355 lundy86_4
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Lol I just don't want to buy a Blu-ray with Dolby Digital sound.Michael0134567

You are making no sense :x

Everything has Dolby Digital nowadays... Even DVD's from years ago :P

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#356 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Lol I just don't want to buy a Blu-ray with Dolby Digital sound.lundy86_4

You are making no sense :x

Everything has Dolby Digital nowadays... Even DVD's from years ago :P

You're trolling me, aren't you? :x
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#357 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

100%.

It's a sad day when their agenda is this easy to decipher.

DJ-Lafleur

Yeah, it should be fun though.

WiiU and its games sell great - "oh, its teh different casual market"

WiiU game gets AAA, or even AAAA score - "oh, its teh lower standerdz!"

Same WiiU game walks away with overall GotY award - "...........:x:cry:"

Dude, Sony WANTED last place because they care about the gamers more than sales!

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#358 psymon100
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Lol I just don't want to buy a Blu-ray with Dolby Digital sound.Michael0134567

You are making no sense :x

Everything has Dolby Digital nowadays... Even DVD's from years ago :P

You're trolling me, aren't you? :x

Would sir prefer linear pulse code modulation five point one sound?

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#359 lundy86_4
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You're trolling me, aren't you? :xMichael0134567

No :x

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#360 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]You're trolling me, aren't you? :xlundy86_4

No :x

i know you are :x.
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#361 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You are making no sense :x

Everything has Dolby Digital nowadays... Even DVD's from years ago :P

psymon100

You're trolling me, aren't you? :x

Would sir prefer linear pulse code modulation five point one sound?

I have no idea what you just said.
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#362 psymon100
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[QUOTE="psymon100"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"] You're trolling me, aren't you? :xMichael0134567

Would sir prefer linear pulse code modulation five point one sound?

I have no idea what you just said.

Captain Lundy was not trolling you.

Did you get COD BLOPS 2 for Wii U?

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#363 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]You're trolling me, aren't you? :xMichael0134567

No :x

i know you are :x.

Yeah, but you're wrong :x

I don't troll... I edumacate!

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#364 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="psymon100"]

Would sir prefer linear pulse code modulation five point one sound?

psymon100

I have no idea what you just said.

Captain Lundy was not trolling you.

Did you get COD BLOPS 2 for Wii U?

I know he's not, we're cool. I don't even have a Wii U yet :(.
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#365 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No :x

lundy86_4

i know you are :x.

Yeah, but you're wrong :x

I don't troll... I edumacate!

I don't think you're getting what I mean, but whatever :P. Go back to school, kid...
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#366 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Yeah, it should be fun though.

WiiU and its games sell great - "oh, its teh different casual market"

WiiU game gets AAA, or even AAAA score - "oh, its teh lower standerdz!"

Same WiiU game walks away with overall GotY award - "...........:x:cry:"

Wiimotefan

Dude, Sony WANTED last place because they care about the gamers more than sales!

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LOL. That probably describes a good amount of cows here.

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#367 tubbyc
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Just curious, do you consider the Wii U a next generation console?

The question isn't whether it is or isn't, but what you think.

For me, from what I've seen and heard, it seems weak and not something that I'd consider next gen. For me next gen is more than what's out there.

Needing a stand alone harddrive because the system only has up to 32gb and having a controller that can't last more than 4 hours with a charge seems ridiculous to me.

What about you?

d_parker

So more like, do you think it's a worthy next generation console, or true next-gen console if you like. Many people seemed to miss the point of what you were asking. I answered based on this and my answer is no, even though it is in a way by definition. I just don't find it to be an impressive step up from current gen, if a step up at all. And not just considering processing power, but the new controller as well.

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#368 lundy86_4
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I don't think you're getting what I mean, but whatever :P. Go back to school, kid...Michael0134567

Harhar, no I don't :P

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#369 caseypayne69
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By definition it is the first next gen console. It's power is barely better than pS3/360. So it's power is current gen.
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#370 GunSmith1_basic
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By definition it is the first next gen console. It's power is barely better than pS3/360. So it's power is current gen.caseypayne69
I'm fine with that statement, but I still would ask why you would bother saying the power is current gen? Why not just say, "the power is equivalent to current gen"? Its a slight turn of phrase but it very meaningful. I don't like describing a console as occupying two gens. For example you could continue that line of thinking and give a list like that the wiiu is technically next gen, the power is current gen, the peripherals and controller is next gen, the online is current gen, etc.. Still, I'm roughly okay with your phrasing.

So I would say that although the wiiU is a next gen console, it's power and online is equivalent to the current gen.

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#371 HaloPimp978
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It came out on November 18th so yes it is. Plus the controller is something none of the current gen consoles can do.

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#372 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]By definition it is the first next gen console. It's power is barely better than pS3/360. So it's power is current gen.GunSmith1_basic

I'm fine with that statement, but I still would ask why you would bother saying the power is current gen? Why not just say, "the power is equivalent to current gen"? Its a slight turn of phrase but it very meaningful. I don't like describing a console as occupying two gens. For example you could continue that line of thinking and give a list like that the wiiu is technically next gen, the power is current gen, the peripherals and controller is next gen, the online is current gen, etc.. Still, I'm roughly okay with your phrasing.

So I would say that although the wiiU is a next gen console, it's power and online is equivalent to the current gen.

wow seriously, why do you care so much...? This is a forum not a college class
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#373 meetroid8
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Who cares?

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Oh yeah, System Wars cares. I forgot.

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#374 GunSmith1_basic
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wow seriously, why do you care so much...? This is a forum not a college classfueled-system
Like many others here, I enjoy arguing. I recreationally write all the time, like short stories and even a novel once, and this is just another place to spew my prose, and I feel it keeps me in practice. BTW, I'm not the most intense arguer on this forum. I've been led around in circles many times before.

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#375 YearoftheSnake5
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Yes. It could wind up being the WEAKEST next gen offering, but it's still next gen.

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#376 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]By definition it is the first next gen console. It's power is barely better than pS3/360. So it's power is current gen.fueled-system

I'm fine with that statement, but I still would ask why you would bother saying the power is current gen? Why not just say, "the power is equivalent to current gen"? Its a slight turn of phrase but it very meaningful. I don't like describing a console as occupying two gens. For example you could continue that line of thinking and give a list like that the wiiu is technically next gen, the power is current gen, the peripherals and controller is next gen, the online is current gen, etc.. Still, I'm roughly okay with your phrasing.

So I would say that although the wiiU is a next gen console, it's power and online is equivalent to the current gen.

wow seriously, why do you care so much...? This is a forum not a college class

Look at any topic on this board and you'll find just about all of them have people taking insignificant matters seriously. I mean, look at the name. System Wars? This board is pretty much designed for it.

I'd rather see a well thought out discussion anyways.

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#377 Snugenz
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No. The Wii U is not next gen, it is only current gen soon to be last gen. I already explained this in the other Wii U thread. The Wii U is not next gen, proof? It's games don't look any better than the 360 or PS3, in fact they look worst. So much for the whole "the Wii U is more poweful" claim.

Only "proof" the other side gives is biased wikipedia articles that lists the Wii U as next gen, but that article was probably editited by Nintendo themselves or Nintendo fanboys. So it's unreliable.

ShadowMoses900

The gen with which a console belongs depends on when they're released, the WiiU release is the start of the 8th gen, therefore it is next gen, to argue this does nothing but further prove how thick you are.

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#378 lightleggy
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Just curious, do you consider the Wii U a next generation console?

The question isn't whether it is or isn't, but what you think.

For me, from what I've seen and heard, it seems weak and not something that I'd consider next gen. For me next gen is more than what's out there.

Needing a stand alone harddrive because the system only has up to 32gb and having a controller that can't last more than 4 hours with a charge seems ridiculous to me.

What about you?

d_parker
regardless of how ***** the console is, it's still next gen simply because it has marked the beginning of a new generation in the console market.
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#379 themagicbum9720
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the 116 people who voted no, at the time of this post, are stupid. power has nothing to do with gens. wii u is next gen. deal with it.
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#380 themagicbum9720
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just gtfo shadownmoses. go to ign and stay there.
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#381 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I do not understand that if Nintendo has a time machine to go back to 2004 and build a machine why not just go to the future and come back with some space tech?
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#382 Wiimotefan
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I do not understand that if Nintendo has a time machine to go back to 2004 and build a machine why not just go to the future and come back with some space tech?Heirren

lol

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#383 Snugenz
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I do not understand that if Nintendo has a time machine to go back to 2004 and build a machine why not just go to the future and come back with some space tech?Heirren

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#384 Wiimotefan
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]I do not understand that if Nintendo has a time machine to go back to 2004 and build a machine why not just go to the future and come back with some space tech?Snugenz

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Generations are time based. In order for the WiiU to be a last gen console... I'm sure you can fill in the rest.

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#385 Fizzman
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If you voted no because of graphics you better get ready to not consider the 720 and PS4 next gen either, since they are generation behind the PC.

I think the Wii U is a giant rip off, but it is a next gen ripoff.

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#386 delta3074
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Yes, because it is a next gen console.
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#387 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]I don't think you're getting what I mean, but whatever :P. Go back to school, kid...lundy86_4

Harhar, no I don't :P

Oh, of course you don't :evil:.
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#388 ugoo18
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]However, speaking in an interview with VideoGamer Rein said Epic currently has no intention of bringing its next-generation game development engine to the Wii U and suggested that Unreal Engine 3 is a better fit for Nintendo's hardware. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/358194/unreal-engine-4-games-could-be-ported-to-wii-u/

Cranler

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

Unreal is the most widely used game enigne in the industry so his words do hold more weight. More recently he talked about next gen dev costs to skyrocket which means the next gen consoles will be a lot more powerful.

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

If your going to use a Cryengine 3 demo as your example of why the WiiU is not next gen at least research a little about the WiiU and Cryengine 3

http://au.ign.com/articles/2012/06/20/crytek-cryengine-3-beautiful-on-wii-u

So with that in mind, once again i ask you nowwhy is it not next gen now?

The engine that runs the tech demo you linked runs beautifully on it.

Studio responsible for the engine has even said the WiiU's minimum is on par with the current gen. Engine devs opinion will always outweigh ours and they have spoken.

Also the second part of your post is not quite clear are you using a Cryengine 3 demo in relation to UE4 or is that seperate from your first statement about UE4?

Which also can run on the WiiU according to Epic themselves, 2 next gen engines both running on the WiiU.

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#389 the9thinning
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Yes, it's next-gen, because gens are based off of the console cycles and release dates.
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#390 ArchoNils2
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I'm ashamed to be a gamer with all the ignorance around here. Of corse it's a next gen system.

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#391 d_parker
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[QUOTE="d_parker"]

Just curious, do you consider the Wii U a next generation console?

The question isn't whether it is or isn't, but what you think.

For me, from what I've seen and heard, it seems weak and not something that I'd consider next gen. For me next gen is more than what's out there.

Needing a stand alone harddrive because the system only has up to 32gb and having a controller that can't last more than 4 hours with a charge seems ridiculous to me.

What about you?

tubbyc

So more like, do you think it's a worthy next generation console, or true next-gen console if you like. Many people seemed to miss the point of what you were asking. I answered based on this and my answer is no, even though it is in a way by definition. I just don't find it to be an impressive step up from current gen, if a step up at all. And not just considering processing power, but the new controller as well.

And that's the kind of reply I was looking for. Thanks for reading the question.

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#392 Pittfan666
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No. Its current gen with a gimmick.
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#393 Master_Live
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Yes it is, by definition. No matter how disappointed we are with it.
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#394 Malta_1980
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Sure its next-gen... WiiU is the successor to the Wii which is a current-gen console

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#395 hoplayletsplay
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Objectively speaking yes.Personally, no.

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#396 monson21502
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yes but its 7 years too late