Do you consider the Wii U a next gen console?

So was the Wii in the same gen as the 360/PS3? After all, we got a sh*t load of damage control with the Wii over the years.

So was the Wii in the same gen as the 360/PS3? After all, we got a sh*t load of damage control with the Wii over the years.

lundy86_4

Yes it was.Michael0134567

Exactly... The damage control this ge should be proof enough...

Yet, now we have individuals ostracizing a system due to power. The Wii was weaker than a potato.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Yes it was.lundy86_4

Exactly... The damage control this ge should be proof enough...

Yet, now we have individuals ostracizing a system due to power. The Wii was weaker than a potato.

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Yes it was.lundy86_4

Exactly... The damage control this ge should be proof enough...

Yet, now we have individuals ostracizing a system due to power. The Wii was weaker than a potato.

Michael, you should bring back Maureen Chen. Now that is a next gen sig ;)

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

sandbox3d

Yes, yes they did.

Shadow is the first to come to mind for doing this.Michael0134567

Shadow is the biggest dipsh*t to exist.

[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]I can't wait to see people's explanations as to why the PS4/720 are next-gen when they have multi-core CPUs clocked significantly lower than Cell/Xenon.bonesawisready5

Because their architecture isn't the same as the Cell/Xenon?

No my point is the Wii U supposedly still uses the same architecture as the Wii, which uses the same architecture as the Gamecube which is more then ten years old if this is the case.

Michael, you should bring back Maureen Chen. Now that is a next gen sig ;)

AdobeArtist

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... Lights...

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Cranler"] I dont care! Whats your point anyway? Back to the discussion, 360 launched with games that only a high end pc could run, Wiiu did not.Cranler

Microsoft has changed the meanings i.e. DirectX 11.1 Level xx _x

When referring to the hardware, use DirectX 11.1 Level xx _x or Level xx_x GPU.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Okay, prove the video game industry follows your definition of the phrase next generation.

I'll bet you can't.

Oh, and I have a dictionary definition that contradicts yours, if you'd like to see it.

The_Game21x

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

Michael, you should bring back Maureen Chen. Now that is a next gen sig ;)

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Michael, you should bring back Maureen Chen. Now that is a next gen sig ;)

lundy86_4

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude... Lights...

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Yes it was.sandbox3d

Exactly... The damage control this ge should be proof enough...

Yet, now we have individuals ostracizing a system due to power. The Wii was weaker than a potato.

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

Hey mate, I never owned either, but ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Handheld_systems

... it seems that DS/PSP were both 7th gen. Fairly obvious that the PSP won the power battle, however, DS outsold PSP >2:1.

If you want to play Pokemon, no sense buying a PSP.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

lundy86_4

Yes, yes they did.

Shadow is the first to come to mind for doing this.Michael0134567

Shadow is the biggest dipsh*t to exist.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"] "DX11" doesn't mean anything since it supports multiple hardware Levels e.g. DX11.1 Level 9_1 i.e. DX9a GPUs e.g. NVIDIA Tegra 3 DX11.1 Level 9_3 i.e. DX9c GPUs e.g. QualComm SnapDragon S4 DX11.1 Level 10_0 i.e. DX10.0 GPUs. DX11.1 Level 10_1 i.e. DX10.1 GPUs. DX11.1 Level 11_0 i.e. DX11.0 GPUs. DX11.1 Level 11_1 i.e. DX11.1 GPUs. ronvalencia

Microsoft has changed the meanings i.e. DirectX 11.1 Level xx _x

When referring to the hardware, use DirectX 11.1 Level xx _x

Is Wii U's GPU Level 10.1 or 11?

E6760 should be 11 but I've red some contradicting rumours about it being 10.1 only... (or whatever the OGL equivalent is)

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Exactly... The damage control this ge should be proof enough...

Yet, now we have individuals ostracizing a system due to power. The Wii was weaker than a potato.

psymon100

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

Hey mate, I never owned either, but ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_video_game_consoles_(seventh_generation)#Handheld_systems

... it seems that DS/PSP were both 7th gen. Fairly obvious that the PSP won the power battle, however, DS outsold PSP >2:1.

If you want to play Pokemon, no sense buying a PSP.

So the Wii was considered the same gen as PS360. The DS was considered the same gen as the PSP. So whats with these trolls and their new rules?

Pre-emptive damage control is all I'm seeing here.

Lights > everything else. Fact.Michael0134567

Hubba, Hubba!

Lol up there.Michael0134567

Most certainly. He's at the top of my "Non-intentional dipsh*t" list. The "Intentional dipsh*t" list consists of dumbass trolls...

If I had a list :(

So the Wii was considered the same gen as PS360. The DS was considered the same gen as the PSP. So whats with these trolls and their new rules?

Pre-emptive damage control is all I'm seeing here.

sandbox3d

100%.

It's a sad day when their agenda is this easy to decipher.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Lights > everything else. Fact.lundy86_4

Hubba, Hubba!

Lol up there.Michael0134567

Most certainly. He's at the top of my "Non-intentional dipsh*t" list. The "Intentional dipsh*t" list consists of dumbass trolls...

If I had a list :(

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

sandbox3d

I don't remember people throwing around terms like next gen and such against the DS much, but then again I wasn't here at the beginning of the war where the cows probably boosted a lot as a actual good competition for Nintendo handhelds was coming out.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]However, speaking in an interview with VideoGamer Rein said Epic currently has no intention of bringing its next-generation game development engine to the Wii U and suggested that Unreal Engine 3 is a better fit for Nintendo's hardware. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/358194/unreal-engine-4-games-could-be-ported-to-wii-u/

Cranler

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

That could crash the industry tho...

Or severely limit the variety of "AAA" titles so prepare for a future of Halo/Gears/Forza/Uncharted/GoW/GT and CoD sequels only...

Finally, somebody gets it :oops:. You should make a list.Michael0134567

One day, when i'm not so lazy! My days off are for doing shag all!

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

nameless12345

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

That could crash the industry tho...

Or severely limit the variety of "AAA" titles so prepare for a future of Halo/Gears/Forza/Uncharted/GoW/GT and CoD sequels only...

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Finally, somebody gets it :oops:. You should make a list.lundy86_4

One day, when i'm not so lazy! My days off are for doing shag all!

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Finally, somebody gets it :oops:. You should make a list.Michael0134567

One day, when i'm not so lazy! My days off are for doing shag all!

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

One day, when i'm not so lazy! My days off are for doing shag all!

lundy86_4

I raise you one

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

Did people consider the DS and PSP the same gen of handhelds? Just curious, I never kept up with that battle.

Wanderer5

I don't remember people throwing around terms like next gen and such against the DS much, but then again I wasn't here at the beginning of the war where the cows probably boosted a lot as a actual good competition for Nintendo handhelds was coming out.

I don't think talk about how next gen handhelds are because people here don't care about handhelds. >_>

Our Prime Minister on the left:

I raise you one

Michael0134567

Awww, was looking for that. Then, Pirates of the Caribbean, and awesome.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

I raise you one

lundy86_4

Awww, was looking for that. Then, Pirates of the Caribbean, and awesome.

I don't think talk about how next gen handhelds are because people here don't care about handhelds. >_>

DJ-Lafleur

Yeah that too.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]However, speaking in an interview with VideoGamer Rein said Epic currently has no intention of bringing its next-generation game development engine to the Wii U and suggested that Unreal Engine 3 is a better fit for Nintendo's hardware. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/358194/unreal-engine-4-games-could-be-ported-to-wii-u/

Cranler

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

And? That doesn't change the fact that the Wii U is a next generation console because power has nothing to do with it.

I still haven't seen you prove that the definition of next generation that you have in your sig is the one universally followed by the gaming industry.

But anyway, here's the definition that contradicts yours I mentioned earlier.

"pertainingtothenextgenerationinafamily;also,pertainingtothenextstageofdevelopmentorversionofaproduct,service,ortechnology"

Link

Now tell me how your definition is 1. Universal and 2. better than mine.

Both are awesome, but mine's awesomer :cool:.Michael0134567

I can't decide between a terrible Spartan from Halo Legends, or Jack Sparrow...

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Both are awesome, but mine's awesomer :cool:.lundy86_4

I can't decide between a terrible Spartan from Halo Legends, or Jack Sparrow...

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

So the Wii was considered the same gen as PS360. The DS was considered the same gen as the PSP. So whats with these trolls and their new rules?

Pre-emptive damage control is all I'm seeing here.

lundy86_4

100%.

It's a sad day when their agenda is this easy to decipher.

Yeah, it should be fun though.

WiiU and its games sell great - "oh, its teh different casual market"

WiiU game gets AAA, or even AAAA score - "oh, its teh lower standerdz!"

Same WiiU game walks away with overall GotY award - "...........:x:cry:"

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

So the Wii was considered the same gen as PS360. The DS was considered the same gen as the PSP. So whats with these trolls and their new rules?

Pre-emptive damage control is all I'm seeing here.

sandbox3d

100%.

It's a sad day when their agenda is this easy to decipher.

Yeah, it should be fun though.

WiiU and its games sell great - "oh, its teh different casual market"

WiiU game gets AAA, or even AAAA score - "oh, its teh lower standerdz!"

Same WiiU game walks away with overall GotY award - "...........:x:cry:"

Dude, Sony WANTED last place because they care about the gamers more than sales!

[I haven't seen Halo Legends, so yeah.Michael0134567

The Spartan in the GIF is a complete boob in the collection of short films... You should watch it.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][I haven't seen Halo Legends, so yeah.lundy86_4

The Spartan in the GIF is a complete boob in the collection of short films... You should watch it.

Yeah, it should be fun though.

WiiU and its games sell great - "oh, its teh different casual market"

WiiU game gets AAA, or even AAAA score - "oh, its teh lower standerdz!"

Same WiiU game walks away with overall GotY award - "...........:x:cry:"

sandbox3d

Exactly lol.

Even more disturbing, is that this thread will continue unhindered.

I do want to watch it. I wanted to get it on Blu-ray, but it's only Dolby Digital.Michael0134567

What's the issue? Is your sound system hooked up through your TV?

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I like how you assume that Epic's comments speak for the views of the entire gaming industry but okay, let's roll with it.

Epic Games: Next-Gen console specs are not powerful enough

"With this being said, Epic Games has recently caught a glimpse of what the specs for next-gen consoles, PS4 and Xbox 720, will look like. In response, they have stated that they are not going to be enough to provide the type of performance that they are building their next engine for, and are pushing Sony and Microsoft to put more performance into their next systems"

So I guess the PS4 and Xbox 720 are gonna be last gen consoles too. :(

After all, Epic's word is law, right?

The_Game21x

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

And? That doesn't change the fact that the Wii U is a next generation console because power has nothing to do with it.

I still haven't seen you prove that the definition of next generation that you have in your sig is the one universally followed by the gaming industry.

But anyway, here's the definition that contradicts yours I mentioned earlier.

"pertainingtothenextgenerationinafamily;also,pertainingtothenextstageofdevelopmentorversionofaproduct,service,ortechnology"

Link

Now tell me how your definition is 1. Universal and 2. better than mine.

That definition is incredibly vague. With that definition you could call a 2013 1080p lcd a next gen tv which is just plain stupid. Google next gen cars or tv's, they dont talk about the yearly lineup but of huge advancements.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]I do want to watch it. I wanted to get it on Blu-ray, but it's only Dolby Digital.lundy86_4

What's the issue? Is your sound system hooked up through your TV?

With that definition you could call a 2013 1080p lcd a next gen tv which is just plain stupid.

Cranler

That would assume that the generations work the exact same in those industries. It's close to a strawman argument.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"]Unreal is the most widely used game enigne in the industry so his words do hold more weight. More recently he talked about next gen dev costs to skyrocket which means the next gen consoles will be a lot more powerful.

Notice here theres no mention of the wiiu:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/382844/video-next-gen-tech-shown-off-by-ex-mafia-dev/

Cranler

And? That doesn't change the fact that the Wii U is a next generation console because power has nothing to do with it.

I still haven't seen you prove that the definition of next generation that you have in your sig is the one universally followed by the gaming industry.

But anyway, here's the definition that contradicts yours I mentioned earlier.

"pertainingtothenextgenerationinafamily;also,pertainingtothenextstageofdevelopmentorversionofaproduct,service,ortechnology"

Link

Now tell me how your definition is 1. Universal and 2. better than mine.

That definition is incredibly vague. With that definition you could call a 2013 1080p lcd a next gen tv which is just plain stupid. Google next gen cars or tv's, they dont talk about the yearly lineup but of huge advancements.

Good job moving the goal posts.

Define what next generation is for the gaming industry. Don't show me what one developer says, show me an actual definition that is used by the gaming industry.

I meant the Blu-ray lol. It's Dolby Digital only.Michael0134567

I know :P I assumed your sound system had issues decoding a Doilby Digital signal.

Horrible graphics doesnt exclude you from being a next gen console.

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]I meant the Blu-ray lol. It's Dolby Digital only.lundy86_4

I know :P I assumed your sound system had issues decoding a Doilby Digital signal.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

And? That doesn't change the fact that the Wii U is a next generation console because power has nothing to do with it.

I still haven't seen you prove that the definition of next generation that you have in your sig is the one universally followed by the gaming industry.

But anyway, here's the definition that contradicts yours I mentioned earlier.

"pertainingtothenextgenerationinafamily;also,pertainingtothenextstageofdevelopmentorversionofaproduct,service,ortechnology"

Link

Now tell me how your definition is 1. Universal and 2. better than mine.

The_Game21x

That definition is incredibly vague. With that definition you could call a 2013 1080p lcd a next gen tv which is just plain stupid. Google next gen cars or tv's, they dont talk about the yearly lineup but of huge advancements.

Good job moving the goal posts.

Define what next generation is for the gaming industry. Don't show me what one developer says, show me an actual definition that is used by the gaming industry.

Release wise,yes.

Graphics wise,no.