Does Forza 4 produce the most realistic car photos in a game? [not for 56k]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]Again, you fail to do research before spouting numbers and statements off the top of your head...... When will you learn?Nuck81

Is it possible for one to hijack their own thread? I think these GT5 images look better, but I'm not sure he's in the wrong here as far as what he's arguing in his own thread ;)

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]Again, you fail to do research before spouting numbers and statements off the top of your head...... When will you learn?Nuck81

Keep in mind that those INTERIOR GT5 pics are not doctored or anything, those are from IN GAME Premium cars using photomode. Its not some speciality Autovista type thing. Just clearing that up...

Keep in mind that those INTERIOR GT5 pics are not doctored or anything, those are from IN GAME Premium cars using photomode. Its not some speciality Autovista type thing. Just clearing that up...

SRTtoZ

And you can only take those pictures (except those with open cockpits, obviously) in the photo travel mode, which is very much like Autovista in itself and not during an actual race.

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] So you've been demolished in this thread and now you're trying to save face by attacking other posters directly? Again you don't have to play Forza too look at Pictures in PHOTOMODE (which is what you created this thread for, to claim Forza has the best PHOTOMODE) to see which pictures look better. I have NEVER once claimed that Forza is a bad game, or even made a SINGLE comment on how it plays or drives. I've never played it so I won't make comments on it's gameplay. Check my post history, if you find one where I talk about how Forza PLAYS or DRIVES. I'll never post in one of your threads again... As it is, you lost this thread when the first GT5 pics started showing up. Go ahead and admit it, you'll feel better about yourself....Nuck81

Does Forza 4 produce the most realistic car photos in a game? [not for 56k]

You're answer is NO, it does not

You played 10% of GT5. That is not even enough to get into the upper level races or even drive the upper level cars. You lied when you said you had 240 hrs into GT5. BUSTED. Just bow out while you can.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"] I am not ashamed. I know GT5 can make better photos, because I've played both games unlike some people. I have not been demolished because I never hurled abuse against ANYONE who posted good GT5 photos, I have made logical sense and appreciate the fact that the people who posted GT5 pics like Rikusaki know what they are talking about. Also your biggest mistake of them all was this statement " what you created this thread for, to claim Forza has the best PHOTOMODE" Ironbash

Does Forza 4 produce the most realistic car photos in a game? [not for 56k]

You're answer is NO, it does not

You played 10% of GT5. That is not even enough to get into the upper level races or even drive the upper level cars. You lied when you said you had 240 hrs into GT5. BUSTED. Just bow out while you can.

Those are far from the best cars in the game, but that's a matter of opinion I guess.

You only had 50 cars, you barely scratched the surface. You accomplished what you can accomplish in a weekend rental.

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

Keep in mind that those INTERIOR GT5 pics are not doctored or anything, those are from IN GAME Premium cars using photomode. Its not some speciality Autovista type thing. Just clearing that up...

The_Game21x

And you can only take those pictures (except those with open cockpits, obviously) in the photo travel mode, which is very much like Autovista in itself and not during an actual race.

What? Its nothing like autovista. Those cars are the same models used when running a track. The only difference is you can get close enough to 'bug' the camera and get inside the car.

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]Does Forza 4 produce the most realistic car photos in a game? [not for 56k]You're answer is NO, it does not. You played 10% of GT5. That is not even enough to get into the upper level races or even drive the upper level cars. You lied when you said you had 240 hrs into GT5. BUSTED. Just bow out while you can.Nuck81

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Forza Photomode looks fantastic but I think GT 5 spanks it. Polyphony's lighting is superior.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] What does that have to do with Photomode? What do Rally Cars have to do with Photomode? Why are you trying to hijack the thread in another direction? Because you lost it's original intent?Nuck81

Okay, that's just not true at all. I remember when you played that BS by comparing Forza 4's Veyron to GT5's. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. GT5's standard cars are nowhere near as good as Forza 4's cars. And I see you're still using the Caterham as your poster boy when Forza 4 doesn't have that car. Well, how about we try a car that's in both games, just to be fair. Try getting in close on the Toyota Supra RZ in GT5 and snapping a picture on Suzuka and I'll do the same in Forza 4 and we'll see which one looks better.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="Ironbash"] Firstly, because standard cars do not have an engine or interior view, the LOD they have when photos are taken is already less than that of a premium or forza model. This was a statement against one poster who said that GT5 has more detailed cars. Why would I Hijack my own thread by stating this? All that rally statement was is that I'd like to see more rally photos taken not of the Subaru or Ford Focus in GTplanet. Sorry for making myself not clear. The_Game21x

Okay, that's just not true at all. I remember when you played that BS by comparing Forza 4's Veyron to GT5's. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. GT5's standard cars are nowhere near as good as Forza 4's cars. And I see you're still using the Caterham as your poster boy when Forza 4 doesn't have that car. Well, how about we try a car that's in both games, just to be fair. Try getting in close on the Toyota Supra RZ in GT5 and snapping a picture on Suzuka and I'll do the same in Forza 4 and we'll see which one looks better.

EDIT: The only Supra I have is the Supra 2.5 GT Twin Turbo R '90. Will that work?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] And the Autovista cars are better modeled than the rest of Forza. So you are now trying to compare Autovista to Standard Cars in GT5? Sad thing is in Photomode the Standard cars in GT5 can look just as good as Forza. Take an Autovista Car and run a race. During the Race Replay pause the game and take pictures from it. That's where I got my personal Standard Car Photo's, lets see how much better the Forza Caterham looks compared to the GT5 one? Take shots at Nurburgring of a FORZA Caterham and post them. Can a Forza Caterham beat a Standard Caterham? You up to the challenge?Nuck81

Okay, that's just not true at all. I remember when you played that BS by comparing Forza 4's Veyron to GT5's. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. GT5's standard cars are nowhere near as good as Forza 4's cars. And I see you're still using the Caterham as your poster boy when Forza 4 doesn't have that car. Well, how about we try a car that's in both games, just to be fair. Try getting in close on the Toyota Supra RZ in GT5 and snapping a picture on Suzuka and I'll do the same in Forza 4 and we'll see which one looks better.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Okay, that's just not true at all. I remember when you played that BS by comparing Forza 4's Veyron to GT5's. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. GT5's standard cars are nowhere near as good as Forza 4's cars. And I see you're still using the Caterham as your poster boy when Forza 4 doesn't have that car. Well, how about we try a car that's in both games, just to be fair. Try getting in close on the Toyota Supra RZ in GT5 and snapping a picture on Suzuka and I'll do the same in Forza 4 and we'll see which one looks better.

Ironbash

Give me about an hour....At Suzuki Right?

Forza 4 photomode is nice but has nothing on GT5 photomode unfortunately, since I prefer taking photos in Forza 4.

I'd say it's close, though they both make for better car pr0n than anything on PC.

Here are my pics. Took them today, all three are standard cars.

No special modes, no special lenses, no exposure or nonsense, I ran one lap, went to replay, pointed the camera and shot pictures. Will any Forza kids man up and do the same? Will you shoot your own pictures today, of the same three cars that are in Forza 4? Or will you make excuses, or better yet scour the internet for pics to cherry pick from?

Toyata Supra

RenaultSport Clio

Pontiac Solstice

Suzuka Race Course

Man up!!

How about these PS2 cars? Will the Forza kids take my challenge? I expect excuses, SHOW ME RESULTS!!

The people here can argue all night long about which ones are better. They all look great to me.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

isnt it sad when consoles bullshots and photo modes cant even beat PC in realtime? especially since GTA4 is an open world game aswell makes it even more sad

HaloinventedFPS

Isn't it sad when you are compaing a heavily modded game on high end 2011 hardware to technology from 2006?

isnt it sad when modded GTA4 runs on PC's from 2007?

high end 2011 hardware... lol, go back to Xbox kiddy

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.

Anyway, here's the Supra RZ on Suzuka from Forza 4. I dare anyone to take a picture in GT5 on the same track of the same car and say it looks better than Forza 4.

Oh and as a bonus, here's a shot of the interior. Try replicating that in GT5. :)

PC sims these days are all about the tyre models. Why can't we have a sim that's all about the cars?! PC gamers like pretty things too :(

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.The_Game21x

Why are you asking for one specific car and one specific track? This thread is about which one produces better photos and quite frankly what has been shown for GT5 blows away what has been shown for Forza 4, your car there still looks cartoonish for me.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.kuraimen

Why are you asking for one specific car and one specific track? This thread is about which one produces better photos and quite frankly what has been shown for GT5 blows away what has been shown for Forza 4, your car there still looks cartoonish for me.

Because he asked for the Caterham, a car that isn't in Forza 4, to be shot on the Nurburgring. Turnabout is fair play.

Second, given your posting history, I'm not shocked you think that way. In other shocking news, the sky is blue.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.The_Game21x

Why are you asking for one specific car and one specific track? This thread is about which one produces better photos and quite frankly what has been shown for GT5 blows away what has been shown for Forza 4, your car there still looks cartoonish for me.

Because he asked for the Caterham, a car that isn't in Forza 4, to be shot on the Nurburgring. Turnabout is fair play.

Second, given your posting history, I'm not shocked you think that way. In other shocking news, the sky is blue.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]

Why are you asking for one specific car and one specific track? This thread is about which one produces better photos and quite frankly what has been shown for GT5 blows away what has been shown for Forza 4, your car there still looks cartoonish for me.

kuraimen

Because he asked for the Caterham, a car that isn't in Forza 4, to be shot on the Nurburgring. Turnabout is fair play.

Second, given your posting history, I'm not shocked you think that way. In other shocking news, the sky is blue.

Because it's not a fact. It's your opinion that GT5 looks better, just as it is mine that Forza 4 looks better. Why do cows find it so hard to accept something like that?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]Photomode. I have played both games extensively and GT5's photomode IS superior.The game is different however, where I would give the nod to Forza simply for it's consistency.BUT-GT 5's premium car models are astounding and they blow awayForza 4's car models.Rikusaki

Sorry but I have to disagree on that. GT5's premium models are indeed incredible but I've not seen one that "blows away" Forza 4's models. Better? Maybe, but the difference is marginal, at best, especially compared to the Autovista models, which are better than anything I've seen in GT5.

Plus, Forza has the consistency that GT5 can't hope to match. Forza is the more complete package with its superior environments and the like. But I'll let my own pictures do the talking.

The paint looks like it was done by Maaco. The base is flat and the clear coat just looks so cheap. Looks like, well, plastic. And I don't see any blend going on in that picture (there should be, given the lighting situation). In Forza, the depth of the shine is the same no matter what lighting situation the car is in. Very unrealistic.

This is how it's done:

I ain't gonna lie, that sh*t looks real :?

I ain't gonna lie, that sh*t looks real :?

W1NGMAN-

no, modded GTA4 does in realtime, in an open world game... lol consoles

HaloinventedFPS

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

what are your specs and are you using icenhancer 3.5?

HaloinventedFPS

AMD Phenom II 1055T

XFX HD5870 OC

12GB DDRIII 1866MHz memory

AMD Phenom II 1055T is from 2008 and it sucks

Intel's 2.8gz quadcore from early 2007 stomps on it

5870 is from 2008 aswell and it was always med-end, maybe even low end

12gb of ram... lol how useless

5870 was released in 2010 and it's raw power only second to 6970 in ATI's arsenal,...just so you know. even thought I'm a high end I7 and Nvidia card owner,

Back to topic, IMO GT5 is the most photo realistic car game in the world and then forza4

[QUOTE="Ironbash"]foxhound_fox

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.The_Game21x

I did the best I could with what I had. And the Supra pics you produced don't look any better than the ones I took of the Standard cars. The First and Third Pics look fake as all get out. No Lighting, no reflections, plasticy. They literally look like photoshopped cutouts. Why do the fog lights in the front of the car look like they are floating in air?

I also named and produced two other cars that are in both Forza and Gt5. Where are those pics? Nice job dodging both of those requests.

How do I know the ones of the Toyota are pics you took?

Where are your pics of the Renaultsport Clio and the Pontiac Solstice?

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Because he asked for the Caterham, a car that isn't in Forza 4, to be shot on the Nurburgring. Turnabout is fair play.

Second, given your posting history, I'm not shocked you think that way. In other shocking news, the sky is blue.

The_Game21x

Because it's not a fact. It's your opinion that GT5 looks better, just as it is mine that Forza 4 looks better. Why do cows find it so hard to accept something like that?

The_Game21x

try replicating these in Forza 4.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.Nuck81

Why do the fog lights in the front of the car look like they are floating in air?

I also named and produced two other cars that are in both Forza and Gt5. Where are those pics? Nice job dodging both of those requests.

How do I know the ones of the Toyota are pics you took?

Where are your pics of the Renaultsport Clio and the Pontiac Solstice?

Probably because they DO look like they are floating in air, white car are notorious for having little reflection when the reflection in question is from a light sky.. You know basic colouring that when you put light colours on white you get.... white!

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Well first off, I asked for the Toyota Supra RZ. Not the 2.0 GT. I also asked you to get in close. Nice job dodging both of those requests.Nuck81

I did the best I could with what I had. And the Supra pics you produced don't look any better than the ones I took of the Standard cars. The First and Third Pics look fake as all get out. No Lighting, no reflections, plasticy. They literally look like photoshopped cutouts. Why do the fog lights in the front of the car look like they are floating in air?

I also named and produced two other cars that are in both Forza and Gt5. Where are those pics? Nice job dodging both of those requests.

How do I know the ones of the Toyota are pics you took?

Where are your pics of the Renaultsport Clio and the Pontiac Solstice?

You didn't get in close, as I asked. Combined with how small the pics are, the lack of detail present in the Standard cars is nearly mitigated. Thing is, I KNEW you'd try something like that, which is exactly why I asked you to get in close. Hell, one of your pictures is obscured by tire smoke for f***s sake!

Honestly, the lack of detail present in the track (the Forza version of Suzuka looks MUCH better) combined with the somewhat overblown lighting on some of those cars makes the pictures look pretty damn fake to me but whatever.

The Pontiac and Renault Clio pics are coming. Don't you worry. Though I will have to substitute the Solstice for the Solstice GXP in Forza 4 since the standard Solstice isn't in Forza 4.

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Forza 4 does produce some great looking car photos. One thing about GT5 doesn't it know about this thing called car polish. :lol: Every car looks like it has a matte finish.

Okay, so GT5's photomode is better. Forza's visuals in realtime are quite a ways ahead, though.

^whatever helps you sleep at night.

Too bad that in realtime Forza 4 destroys GT5 in graphics. Only thing that GT5 has is photo mode because of the better lighting post processing.