EDGE magazine rewards Skyward Sword a perfect 10.

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#251 arbitor365
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or maybe he's not, because he totally ignored that metacritic works on a 100 point scale and edge works on a 10 point scale with no increments.BrunoBRS

1) plenty of other sites use the same rating system and none of them display such a shocking platform disparity

2) the 360 and the ps3 are both being held to the same non-incremental numbering system. so it is a constant for both and should have no impact on the proportional difference between them.

3) with that system, scores could just as easily be round up from the metascore as they would round down.

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#252 timmy00
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The damage control is delicious.

Man I wish I could have the game right now.

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#253 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]or maybe he's not, because he totally ignored that metacritic works on a 100 point scale and edge works on a 10 point scale with no increments.arbitor365

1) plenty of other sites use the same rating system and none of them display such a shocking platform disparity

2) the 360 and the ps3 are both being held to the same non-incremental numbering system. so it is a constant for both and should have no impact on the proportional difference between them.

3) with that system, scores could just as easily be round up from the metascore as they would round down.

i fail to see how edge could get closer than 6 points in MC without inflating their score. and i also fail to see why people can't accept a magazine/site for giving reviews with a different score. because if you stop and think about it, people always bring up a certain site can't be trusted or is biased against this or in favor of that. and all i've seen people mention is how anti-sony EDGE is. even if that were true (and lol if you think it is), how does that affect a score given to a nintendo game? anti sony doesn't instantly imply pro-nintendo. if anything, even after considering all the hilarious claims as true, it still sounds that they're neutral towards nintendo, which can only mean one thing... but of course you'll go on with the damage control. go ahead, it's entertaining.
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#254 organic_machine
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If a game is a good game, it shouldn't matter what age you are when you play it. Many games appeal to a variety of age groups, and that is OK. Your maturity shouldn't feel threatened just because the characters don't look serious enough for your friends.mrfokken

Aaaaand just like that, the "kiddie" argument flies out the window. Well put, sir.

And then there's Thunderdrone's sig, too.

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#255 nintendo-4life
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Its getting a 10 here also.TheGuardian03
Am I the only one who hopes this gets an 8.8 over a 10 here in GS? Just imagine the confusion and explosion of this place. [spoiler] I know it's impossible but don't tell me that won't be amazing [/spoiler]
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#256 meetroid8
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But aren't Edge always biased and wrong according to system wars? Is this bad news?
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#257 doubalfa
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GS scores for great games range from 7.5 to 10 it's just that random
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#258 nintendo-4life
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GS scores for great games range from 7.5 to 10 it's just that randomdoubalfa
all 4 one not a great game confirmed? :P
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#259 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Its getting a 10 here also.nintendo-4life
Am I the only one who hopes this gets an 8.8 over a 10 here in GS? Just imagine the confusion and explosion of this place. [spoiler] I know it's impossible but don't tell me that won't be amazing [/spoiler]

I would pay GS to do a farce review with comments like "only da kiddies will want tis" or "The gameplay will make you feel like a kid all over again..and who wants to feel like a kid amiright?" ending in an 8.8. Kevin has to do it along with McSea.:lol:

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#260 AvIdGaMeR444
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Gamespot is still going to give it an 8.5. X-Play is going to give it a 2 or 3 out of 5.nintendoboy16

I could see Giantbomb giving it a 3 out of 5 as well.

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#261 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Gamespot is still going to give it an 8.5. X-Play is going to give it a 2 or 3 out of 5.AvIdGaMeR444

I could see Giantbomb giving it a 3 out of 5 as well.

in all honesty who cares,. If Jeff's trying to stir up controversy for the sake of it, all power too him

he has a reputation to maintain after all

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#262 AvIdGaMeR444
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Morgan Webb says a lot of crap to garner attention and nerd rage, but in the end they usually give good games an automatic 5/5.

She's been mouthing off on Skyward Sword too, calling it too kiddy, that the motion controls are tacked on, that the artstyle sucks, and the typical flamebait you'd expect from anti-Zelda trolls. She's just doing it for attention, I guarantee.

princeofshapeir

Don't underestimate the craziness of Morgan Webb. I'm willing to bet she really feels this negatively about Skyward Sword. She is a huge fangirl who is biased against what she feels are "kiddy" games from Nintendo.

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#263 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="mrfokken"]If a game is a good game, it shouldn't matter what age you are when you play it. Many games appeal to a variety of age groups, and that is OK. Your maturity shouldn't feel threatened just because the characters don't look serious enough for your friends.organic_machine

Aaaaand just like that, the "kiddie" argument flies out the window. Well put, sir.

And then there's Thunderdrone's sig, too.

here's an easy way to spot someone that's still too insecure about their own maturity and isn't sure if they're already considered adults: they describe games as kiddy and stay away from them.
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#264 bobcheeseball
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If this is how much damage control we'll see after a perfect score from EDGE imagine what we'll see if Gamespot gives it a 10 :P Anyways, Awesome score. I can't wait to read the reviews for this game, and above all play it of course!
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#265 peterw007
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="mrfokken"]If a game is a good game, it shouldn't matter what age you are when you play it. Many games appeal to a variety of age groups, and that is OK. Your maturity shouldn't feel threatened just because the characters don't look serious enough for your friends.BrunoBRS

Aaaaand just like that, the "kiddie" argument flies out the window. Well put, sir.

And then there's Thunderdrone's sig, too.

here's an easy way to spot someone that's still too insecure about their own maturity and isn't sure if they're already considered adults: they describe games as kiddy and stay away from them.

This is a true statement.

Only real men play kiddy video games and feel confident about their masculinity.

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#266 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]If this is how much damage control we'll see after a perfect score from EDGE imagine what we'll see if Gamespot gives it a 10 :P

Wouldn't be surprised if some people end up getting banned. lol
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]If this is how much damage control we'll see after a perfect score from EDGE imagine what we'll see if Gamespot gives it a 10 :P lbjkurono23
Wouldn't be surprised if some people end up getting banned. lol

It's as if you enjoy dancing on our e-marriage with your sig. :evil:

Awesome sig, though. :P

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#268 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="TrapJak"]

[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

Donkey Kong Country Returns says hi.

mmmwksil

DKC was ok, nothing great compared to the classics.

But it was nice for Nintendo to revitalize the classic 2D form, so I should cut them some slack.

Well we might disagree on this. I think DKCR was better than DKC3 and MAYBE DKC1. DKC2 is still best, though. ;)

Gotta disagree, I still consider DKC1 to be the best in the series. I haven't played DKCR extensively so I don't know, but from what I've played at Best Buys and whatever, shaking the remote to roll felt very non-intuitive and tacked on. As someone who grew up with DKC1 and 2, not letting me press a button to roll is a massive slap in the face.
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#269 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"][QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]If this is how much damage control we'll see after a perfect score from EDGE imagine what we'll see if Gamespot gives it a 10 :P mmmwksil

Wouldn't be surprised if some people end up getting banned. lol

It's as if you enjoy dancing on our e-marriage with your sig. :evil:

Awesome sig, though. :P

Lol I do like having fun with it every now and then. :P It's not as good as yours , but thanks :)

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#270 mmmwksil
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Gotta disagree, I still consider DKC1 to be the best in the series. I haven't played DKCR extensively so I don't know, but from what I've played at Best Buys and whatever, shaking the remote to roll felt very non-intuitive and tacked on. As someone who grew up with DKC1 and 2, not letting me press a button to roll is a massive slap in the face.princeofshapeir

I agree with the tackiness of the wiimote shake. That's DKCR's biggest flaw, and only flaw, actually. Retro did an AMAZING job with the level design in the game, rivaling if not outright surpassing Rare's work in the old trilogy.

As for DKC1 being the best... no. :P DKC2 > DKC1 :o

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#271 fabz_95
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It looks awesome and I liked it when I played it, should be great.
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#272 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The damage control is wonderful, just wonderful :lol:
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#273 shinrabanshou
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By EDGE standards.

madsnakehhh

So easier than GameSpot's to get a perfect score...

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#274 bobcheeseball
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[QUOTE="mmmwksil"]

[QUOTE="TrapJak"]DKC was ok, nothing great compared to the classics.

But it was nice for Nintendo to revitalize the classic 2D form, so I should cut them some slack.

princeofshapeir

Well we might disagree on this. I think DKCR was better than DKC3 and MAYBE DKC1. DKC2 is still best, though. ;)

Gotta disagree, I still consider DKC1 to be the best in the series. I haven't played DKCR extensively so I don't know, but from what I've played at Best Buys and whatever, shaking the remote to roll felt very non-intuitive and tacked on. As someone who grew up with DKC1 and 2, not letting me press a button to roll is a massive slap in the face.

I agree with you. I'm a big fan of DKC, and DKCR was certainly good, but the shoehorned controls really brought the game down. Not as good as DKC1 and DKC2.
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#275 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

By EDGE standards.

shinrabanshou

So easier than GameSpot's to get a perfect score...

True enough. Considering that Gamespot has only given a 10 to seven games so far- less than half Edge's number- I'd say it cannot be argued that getting a 10 from Edge is easier than getting it from Gamespot.
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#276 Haiyama
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Gamespot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8/10. I could see Skyward Sword getting an 8.5/10 here.

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#277 MLBknights58
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Is there ANY credible reviewer anymore!? Seriously I go into a thread and all I ever see is "Lol its (insert any reviewer here) let's not get too carried away."

What the ****? Who are the credible sources!? Is a reviewer automatically garbage if they give 1 or 2 games a score that didn't match the majority?

SW makes my head hurt

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#278 gamer620
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Gamespot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8/10. I could see Skyward Sword getting an 8.5/10 here.

Haiyama
And Edge gave it a 9/10, so going by your logic, seeing as Edge gave SS a 10, Gamespot should give it at least a 9.5.
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#279 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="Haiyama"]

Gamespot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8/10. I could see Skyward Sword getting an 8.5/10 here.

gamer620
And Edge gave it a 9/10, so going by your logic, seeing as Edge gave SS a 10, Gamespot should give it at least a 9.5.

an 8.8 is closer to a 9 than an 8. Going by his logic, if TP scored a 9 by the new GS standards then SS should score...
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#280 bbkkristian
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First time I've heard of EDGE; Skyward Sword got a Prime score, that's amazing. :D
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#281 Dibdibdobdobo
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so Fable should get a 12 by Edge standards? Correct.
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#282 TREAL_Since
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Time to dust off the Wii 8).

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#283 Haiyama
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[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="Haiyama"]

Gamespot gave Twilight Princess an 8.8/10. I could see Skyward Sword getting an 8.5/10 here.

nintendo-4life

And Edge gave it a 9/10, so going by your logic, seeing as Edge gave SS a 10, Gamespot should give it at least a 9.5.

an 8.8 is closer to a 9 than an 8. Going by his logic, if TP scored a 9 by the new GS standards then SS should score...

B-b-but GS doesn't like to give 9's or above to overhyped games unless they're paid off.

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#284 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="gamer620"] And Edge gave it a 9/10, so going by your logic, seeing as Edge gave SS a 10, Gamespot should give it at least a 9.5.Haiyama

an 8.8 is closer to a 9 than an 8. Going by his logic, if TP scored a 9 by the new GS standards then SS should score...

B-b-but GS doesn't like to give 9's or above to overhyped games unless they're paid off.

They dont give Wii games a 9.0 either as only Ps3 and 360 games can be superior enough to get awesome scores like 9.0. Wii only gets 8.5
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#285 HAZE-Unit
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that's just a troll review wait util the real reviewers releases their reviews.

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Can't wait for this to hit...! :D
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#287 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Obligatory: "lol, edge". Anyways great score, I can see this getting AAAE here @ GS.Sollet

If anything Edge is the harshest of reviewers.. Video games are insanely inflated now a days.. Its getting to the point that even a 8.0 is a huge disappointment that a person won't buy it.

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#288 GD1551
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[QUOTE="Sollet"]Obligatory: "lol, edge". Anyways great score, I can see this getting AAAE here @ GS.sSubZerOo

If anything Edge is the harshest of reviewers.. Video games are insanely inflated now a days.. Its getting to the point that even a 8.0 is a huge disappointment that a person won't buy it.

They aren't, this has been debunked already.
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#289 ActicEdge
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Oh man, if this is better than Galaxy 2 I might die of a heart attack.

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#290 bobcheeseball
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I've gotten so excited for Skyward Sword I couldn't help but playing Twilight Princess today :D
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#291 Giant_Panda
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I am sure Zelda SS will be good, in fact it will be the first time I play something not named Brawl on Wii for the last 2 years. I just think I will wait for Eurogamer or Gamespot to review before I go trusting their review scores.

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#292 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]They give out 7's 8's and 9's in largely the same proportion as GameSpot, so no, a 5 from Edge shouldn't be considered any better than a 5 from GameSpot.

For comparative purposes, previous meta-analyses of GS and IGN are referred to. This is GS:

---

Also as pointed out in that thread, the assertion that review scores should average at five on a ten point scale is flawed and based on the assumption that games never go through some sort of QA process.

arbitor365

thank you for refuting the old argument that edge fans make

"edge magazine uses a different scale and thus cant be compared to other reviewing sites and metacritic."

im not sure if that was your intention

Actually that doesn't prove anything at all. EDGE and GS don't review the same games. EDGE has a much more limited space to produce reviews so it is not going to review the same games that GS do. To prove that EDGE are just as 'lenient' as other publications you would have to compare the review scores of individual games, rather than the total scores the magazine releases.

Metacritic actually shows this a lot better than that graph does:

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/edge-magazine?filter=games (EDGE: 9.7 points lower than other critics when individual game scores are compared)

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamespot?filter=games (GS: 5.4 points lower than other critics when individual game scores are compared)

(GS is being annoying with linking, apologies)

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#293 Ravensmash
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I honestly urge any Edge 'haters' to pick up a copy of the magazine, or even the visit the website and READ the reviews. If anything, I want more publications like Edge out there. My hype for this is AAAE - seen it (didn't bother playing it at Eurogamer Expo) and it looks great, may have to use the family Wii.
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#294 finalfantasy94
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I honestly urge any Edge 'haters' to pick up a copy of the magazine, or even the visit the website and READ the reviews. If anything, I want more publications like Edge out there. My hype for this is AAAE - seen it (didn't bother playing it at Eurogamer Expo) and it looks great, may have to use the family Wii.Ravensmash

umm how will that change anything. Im pretty sure peopel who dont like them have read some of there stuff. Is not like all of them are blindly bashing it.

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#295 vguy555
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I can't wait to play this game! :o I hope it gets at least a 9 here at Gamespot.

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#296 AmayaPapaya
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Oh man, if this is better than Galaxy 2 I might die of a heart attack.

ActicEdge

A game better than Galaxy 2? Is that...is that possibl? I mean, Galaxy 2 was just soooo goooooood. Best game on Wii (and this gen) if one doesn't count the Metroid Prime Trilogy.

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#297 BrunoBRS
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Is there ANY credible reviewer anymore!? Seriously I go into a thread and all I ever see is "Lol its (insert any reviewer here) let's not get too carried away."

What the ****? Who are the credible sources!? Is a reviewer automatically garbage if they give 1 or 2 games a score that didn't match the majority?

SW makes my head hurt

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it's obviously the user reviews that are more credible. you know, the ones that either give the game a perfect 10 or a 0 and rage/drool with poor grammar for about 5 lines if that.
Lol I do like having fun with it every now and then. :P It's not as good as yours , but thanks :)

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:o your sig! so... beautiful.

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#298 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]I honestly urge any Edge 'haters' to pick up a copy of the magazine, or even the visit the website and READ the reviews. If anything, I want more publications like Edge out there. My hype for this is AAAE - seen it (didn't bother playing it at Eurogamer Expo) and it looks great, may have to use the family Wii.finalfantasy94

umm how will that change anything. Im pretty sure peopel who dont like them have read some of there stuff. Is not like all of them are blindly bashing it.

You'd be surprised how many EDGE threads turn into hate-fests within the first page. And for the whole thread not a single quote is actually seen at all. Check the previous EDGE threads that have been on here and I'd be surprised if you could find any hater that actually brings up segments of the review to the thread. That and the magazine is only readily available in the UK, and their website only gets updated every now and again.
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#299 BrunoBRS
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Actually that doesn't prove anything at all. EDGE and GS don't review the same games. EDGE has a much more limited space to produce reviews so it is not going to review the same games that GS do. To prove that EDGE are just as 'lenient' as other publications you would have to compare the review scores of individual games, rather than the total scores the magazine releases.

Metacritic actually shows this a lot better than that graph does:

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/edge-magazine?filter=games (EDGE: 9.7 points lower than other critics when individual game scores are compared)

http://www.metacritic.com/publication/gamespot?filter=games (GS: 5.4 points lower than other critics when individual game scores are compared)

(GS is being annoying with linking, apologies)

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translation: both EDGE and gamespot have higher than average standards (probably because of that whole 3 point scale so many sites enjoy. "7 = AWFUL"), with EDGE being even more strict with their reviews.

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