Far Cry 2 Official Sticky: Keep it here or be suspended. (8.5 @ GS)

SO MANY FLOPS FOR MY POOR HEART :cry:nintendo-4life

The noodly floppage has struck again.:(

Another flop bites the dust. I didn't hype Fable 2 but thought it would get AAA, but I definitely thought FarCry 2 would get at least a 9.0.

I've been owned, and I'm man enough to admit it. Someone confirm ownage on me so I can accept this fact, put it behind me and move it. I need closure.

8.5...?

Wait WHAT?

Why?

*heads off to read the review*

.... I was expecting it to be the best shooter this gen.... was getting praise elsewhere...

Is Flop the word of the day here for the posters?

Seems to be in every other post.

i dunno....8.5 is a great score......

whenever i got 85% on a test i was pretty happy:?

whenever i got 85% on a test i was pretty happy:?

Joshywaa

But did you go round bragging and hyping yourself to others that you'd get over 90%, that's the real question)

8.5...?

Wait WHAT?

Why?

*heads off to read the review*

.... I was expecting it to be the best shooter this gen.... was getting praise elsewhere...

skrat_01

It still may end up being one. I'd never take reviews as the truth. They've overrated and underrated games time and time again. Deus Ex ring a bell? System Shock 2 ring a bell?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

8.5...?

Wait WHAT?

Why?

*heads off to read the review*

.... I was expecting it to be the best shooter this gen.... was getting praise elsewhere...

BioShockOwnz

It still may end up being one. I'd never take reviews as the truth. They've overrated and underrated games time and time again. Deus Ex ring a bell? System Shock 2 ring a bell?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

8.5...?

Wait WHAT?

Why?

*heads off to read the review*

.... I was expecting it to be the best shooter this gen.... was getting praise elsewhere...

skrat_01

It still may end up being one. I'd never take reviews as the truth. They've overrated and underrated games time and time again. Deus Ex ring a bell? System Shock 2 ring a bell?

That bell started ringing when they 8.5'ed Fable 2. Not even IGN scored the game that low.

I think GS is going back to the times when they were one of the harshest sites out there. Last year, they gave 9.5's out like it was going out of fashion.

Well, apparently it has.

The cons don't even sound that bad. Was anyone expecting a good story from this one? That it's not all that isn't particularly disappointing. It's the kind of game where you make your own.

Travelling could perhaps become tedious at some point though, if the physics are a bit dull and you're just driving through miles and miles of flat nothing at all and never stumbling upon anything of interest.

Sounds like a thing that could be updated with a mod perhaps? Fast Travel a la Oblivion.

InsaneBasura

The numerical score doesn't reflect what the review says.

I think this game got Deus Ex'ed.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

8.5...?

Wait WHAT?

Why?

*heads off to read the review*

.... I was expecting it to be the best shooter this gen.... was getting praise elsewhere...

FrozenLiquid

It still may end up being one. I'd never take reviews as the truth. They've overrated and underrated games time and time again. Deus Ex ring a bell? System Shock 2 ring a bell?

That bell started ringing when they 8.5'ed Fable 2. Not even IGN scored the game that low.

I think GS is going back to the times when they were one of the harshest sites out there. Last year, they gave 9.5's out like it was going out of fashion.

Well, apparently it has.

[QUOTE="shaunmc"]

Hey dudes. I wrote the review on this one. If you've got any questions, feel free to ask.

As for those wondering the differences between console versions, there really are none. You could dissect screens with a magnifying glass if you wanted to, but what's the point? That time would be better spent installing a new graphics card on your PC so you can play the best version ;).

verbalfilth

Yeah I have a question about the map editor between the PS3 and the 360 as well as the PC. Are they all equal or is the PC superior to the consol editors?

Also, is the 36 0 map editor somewhat limited compared to the PS3 because of MS's restrictions?

The PC map editor has a few more features in there, but the biggest difference is the interface; using a mouse pointer to build your level is so much easier than using a controller. There didn't seem to be a difference between the 360 and PS3 editors.

[QUOTE="shaunmc"]

Hey dudes. I wrote the review on this one. If you've got any questions, feel free to ask.

As for those wondering the differences between console versions, there really are none. You could dissect screens with a magnifying glass if you wanted to, but what's the point? That time would be better spent installing a new graphics card on your PC so you can play the best version ;).

SonyMarksman70

It's only when your health gets really low when you do the self-heal animations. It's not every time you get shot. But they are cool. You can cauterize your own wound with a bundle of matches!

I am concerned about the traveling and the feeling of restlessness and boredom .... how bad is it exactly ? I am very impatient.

Nike_Air

Traveling around definitely becomes tedious after a while, especially when you have dudes shooting at you all the time. There's a bus system that lets you fast travel to five or six set spots on the map, but they're spaced really far apart. It helps to just take your time, not rush yourself, and really take in the scenery.

[QUOTE="shaunmc"]

Hey dudes. I wrote the review on this one. If you've got any questions, feel free to ask.

As for those wondering the differences between console versions, there really are none. You could dissect screens with a magnifying glass if you wanted to, but what's the point? That time would be better spent installing a new graphics card on your PC so you can play the best version ;).

InsaneBasura

• Is it realistic so you can you run over a lion and break its legs off?
• Can you set zebras on fire?
• What's the multiplayer like really? Everyone keeps praising the map editor, but it doesn't really matter if the rest of the multiplayer is a bit ass does it?
• How does the difficulty affect the AI? Do they just become more accurate and more efficient bullet sponges or do they actually behave differently somehow? Can you change the difficulty at will, and in case you can't, which difficulty would you recommend?
• How many bolts were used for the construction of the Golden Gate Bridge?

No, but you will run over a lot of animals. They like to jump in front of your car for some reason.

No, believe me, I tried.

Multiplayer isn't terribly special on its own, but the map editor makes it really cool because that same feeling of exploration you get in the game is preserved because you've always got new maps coming your way.

AI doesn't appear to get much better at higher difficulty. It seems like mostly an HP thing on your part. You can change the difficulty any time you want in the game, you don't have to start a new campaign.

Eleventy bajillion.

The numerical score doesn't reflect what the review says.

I think this game got Deus Ex'ed.

FrozenLiquid

Same here, the negatives are nothing to me.

I would give it a nine myself, but you watch there will be gears reviews coming out that will be way higher then the farcry 2 reviews but you will find more enjoyment out of this in the short and long term then gears 2.

I'm loving playing with the map editor, the single player doesn't have the greatest story no but its a blast to play even with the small faults (which rarely occur btw).

The PC map editor has a few more features in there, but the biggest difference is the interface; using a mouse pointer to build your level is so much easier than using a controller. There didn't seem to be a difference between the 360 and PS3 editors.shaunmc

Thanks for the reply. It definately puts my mind at ease.

Great review.

Keep it up.

dude IGN gave Fable 2 an 8.8

An 8.5-9.0 was what most of us saw coming....8.5 and 8.8 aren't drastically different scores. hell the .1 scoring is easily the dumbest scoring ever IMO.jg4xchamp

Most? champ that was you and a few select others. Fable II was hyped AAA

That's what I meant though. When Edge or Eurogamer give a game a good score, you expect others to follow suite. GS went left field with their score. IGN U.S did as well (Both UK and AU gave it AAA status). The only other noteworthy AA score was one of the OXM magazines, which to my knowledge gave Fallout 3 a ten on that same issue.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]dude IGN gave Fable 2 an 8.8

An 8.5-9.0 was what most of us saw coming....8.5 and 8.8 aren't drastically different scores. hell the .1 scoring is easily the dumbest scoring ever IMO.FrozenLiquid

Most? champ that was you and a few select others. Fable II was hyped AAA

That's what I meant though. When Edge or Eurogamer give a game a good score, you expect others to follow suite. GS went left field with their score. IGN U.S did as well (Both UK and AU gave it AAA status). The only other noteworthy AA score was one of the OXM magazines, which to my knowledge gave Fallout 3 a ten on that same issue.

giantbomb gave one too (4/5), i read the revies those are great

but the scoring system sucks hard! I mean it's like gamepro's one!!!

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]dude IGN gave Fable 2 an 8.8

An 8.5-9.0 was what most of us saw coming....8.5 and 8.8 aren't drastically different scores. hell the .1 scoring is easily the dumbest scoring ever IMO.FrozenLiquid

Most? champ that was you and a few select others. Fable II was hyped AAA

That's what I meant though. When Edge or Eurogamer give a game a good score, you expect others to follow suite. GS went left field with their score. IGN U.S did as well (Both UK and AU gave it AAA status). The only other noteworthy AA score was one of the OXM magazines, which to my knowledge gave Fallout 3 a ten on that same issue.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]dude IGN gave Fable 2 an 8.8

An 8.5-9.0 was what most of us saw coming....8.5 and 8.8 aren't drastically different scores. hell the .1 scoring is easily the dumbest scoring ever IMO.Giancar

Most? champ that was you and a few select others. Fable II was hyped AAA

That's what I meant though. When Edge or Eurogamer give a game a good score, you expect others to follow suite. GS went left field with their score. IGN U.S did as well (Both UK and AU gave it AAA status). The only other noteworthy AA score was one of the OXM magazines, which to my knowledge gave Fallout 3 a ten on that same issue.

giantbomb gave one too (4/5), i read the revies those are great

but the scoring system sucks hard! I mean it's like gamepro's one!!!

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...jg4xchamp

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...FrozenLiquid

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...jg4xchamp

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

I laughed out loud again and again and again. Even my homestay Arab friend from last year kept cracking up despite not knowing English.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...FrozenLiquid

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

I laughed out loud again and again and again. Even my homestay Arab friend from last year kept cracking up despite not knowing English.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...jg4xchamp

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

Havent seen Hot Fuzz but Shaun of the Dead was fantastic.

A great homage to zombie movies, and great comedy.

:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:jaisimar_chelse

Yep. According to GameSpot, no other PC FPS is better than Crysis.

That includes the original Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

8.5, good score, so what's next.

:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:jaisimar_chelse

I can point out Crysis flaws easily... And FC2s flaws from the review dont seem to warrent it such a lower score.

Guess id have to better play the game...

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Either way a poster brought it up yesterday... the UK and AU critics are rating this higher than the US critics....So who knows what that means...skrat_01

Probably means they realize Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz are genuinely good comedies :P

Havent seen Hot Fuzz but Shaun of the Dead was fantastic.

A great homage to zombie movies, and great comedy.

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:FrozenLiquid

Yep. According to GameSpot, no other PC FPS is better than Crysis.

That includes the original Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

>_> u dont get it do you ?

there were people hyping this to outscore crysis (saying it has better gameplay/graphics)

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:jaisimar_chelse

Yep. According to GameSpot, no other PC FPS is better than Crysis.

That includes the original Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

>_> u dont get it do you ?

there were people hyping this to outscore crysis (saying it has better gameplay/graphics)

I got it perfectly. Because from what you've deducted from the numerical score, you're stating that it makes one game better than the other.

So thus, applying your logic, Crysis is "better" than Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2, and Deus Ex, only because it outscored all of them.

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:FrozenLiquid

Yep. According to GameSpot, no other PC FPS is better than Crysis.

That includes the original Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

>_> u dont get it do you ?

there were people hyping this to outscore crysis (saying it has better gameplay/graphics)

I got it perfectly. Because from what you've deducted from the numerical score, you're stating that it makes one game better than the other.

So thus, applying your logic, Crysis is "better" than Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2, and Deus Ex, only because it outscored all of them.

>_> u still dont get it .

i personally dont care 4 crysis or FC2. im just playing the SW game and i find this funny coz ppl were hyping this game to be the crysis killer.

>_> u still dont get it .

i personally dont care 4 crysis or FC2. im just playing the SW game and i find this funny coz ppl were hyping this game to be the crysis killer.

jaisimar_chelse

No, I perfectly get it.

Your problem was not defining what you said was "better". It was an arbitrary statement, when, taken under the context of System Wars, and taken under your affiliation for the PC, seemed to be a reasonably biased comment.

Nevertheless, from what I've been reading, Far Cry 2 is better than Crysis, save the numerical score it's been getting.

:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:jaisimar_chelse

huh ? you judge that from GS reviews the most jacked up reviewing site ever ? FAr Cry 2 beat Crysis at PC gamer.Also looks like gamespot got rid of the FC2 review because there are like only 3 reviews out.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]:lol: so much for far cry 2 being better than crysis :lol:jaisimar_chelse

Yep. According to GameSpot, no other PC FPS is better than Crysis.

That includes the original Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

>_> u dont get it do you ?

there were people hyping this to outscore crysis (saying it has better gameplay/graphics)

I got it perfectly. Because from what you've deducted from the numerical score, you're stating that it makes one game better than the other.

So thus, applying your logic, Crysis is "better" than Half Life, Half Life 2, System Shock 2, and Deus Ex, only because it outscored all of them.

>_> u still dont get it .

i personally dont care 4 crysis or FC2. im just playing the SW game and i find this funny coz ppl were hyping this game to be the crysis killer.

not really...i made a thread about expecting this game to have better gameplay than crysis and i still expect it to. even though crysis was amazing i think this will surpass it in every way except graphically and technically.

Grass grow Skrat....I would rather watch Grass Grow

Mowing my lawn will entertain me more than those 2 movies....i just found them so unfunny.jg4xchamp

Depends on what sort of humor you're into. I thought they were hilarious.

[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

>_> u still dont get it .

i personally dont care 4 crysis or FC2. im just playing the SW game and i find this funny coz ppl were hyping this game to be the crysis killer.

FrozenLiquid

No, I perfectly get it.

Your problem was not defining what you said was "better". It was an arbitrary statement, when, taken under the context of System Wars, and taken under your affiliation for the PC, seemed to be a reasonably biased comment.

Nevertheless, from what I've been reading, Far Cry 2 is better than Crysis, save the numerical score it's been getting.

Like Mass Effect - massive hoohaa, then it become clear that because of the technical issues it did warrant .5 less.

Still.... the review does a good job pointing out the pros... but does not highlight the negatives well at all....

Still from what I have read and seen id say PC Powerplay's 10/10 (no .5 scale) seemed spot on, as did their 10/10 Crysis review.

edit*

Well right now FC2 (PC) is 87 on MetaCritic, Crysis 91. Will probably shift though.

-GameSpy gave it 70% O_o

They screwed up the Crysis Warhead review, what justifies this?

I think people take a games length too much into account.

A games length must be respective of its design.

A game like Portal is perfectly lengthed - especially for its price tag (stand alone), however arguably a game like GeOW is far too short for a full RRP, and a relatively standard multiplayer mode - however a game like COD4 has a much more replayable singleplayer (arcade mode) despite its length, and a fantastic multiplayer mode (even if its not terribly ground breaking). Never the less games like COD4 could have done with more length, and geow more length (and variety) - however id rather an action packed short game, then one padded over long hours.

Which is why I think Warhead is almost perfect when it comes to price and game-features-length.

From what I have read - GS review and GameSpy, is that FC2 pads travel far too much, which impacts on the best bits of the game - missions and approaching them in various ways.

I guess its kind of expected with an open world game though, however stuff like the patrols and checkpoints doo seem to be like a huge hassle.

I reckon the PC version should have been reviewed, it probably would have gotten a 9.0 IMO.

Anyway, I find it funny that Crysis scored a whole point higher than this and even Warhead beat it. :P

I called both Fable 2 and Farcry 2.

I feel so proud:cry:

nicely written review though. I might just check this one out. Wasn't really a fan of the first FC.

8.5 is still a great game according to Gamespot:)agentzero23

so numbers don't count but baseless words do. interesting.